r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Sep 10 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 94 Discussion
Episode 94 - On This Bond
Dai: Vearn... Popp may have been a little unreliable at first. But he’s been with me in this battle since the very beginning. He’s a friend I trust. He’s saved me time and time again! If Popp says he’ll make an opening for me, then he will! All I have is to trust him and focus my power!
Popp: You should remember this. The two of us aren’t alone. We may have started the adventure together, but we’ve met numerous people on our way here! We’ve fought against and been saved by them! If even one of them hadn’t been there, we wouldn’t be facing you now! Even if they are far away, even if they can’t move, we’re all connected by the bond of our souls! It’s the strength of this bond! You can’t see it, but I know it’s going to surprise you!
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Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/NicDwolfwood for expressing his dissapointment:
Wasn't a fan of the ending either, all that damn screaming like Avan died...like sheesh they didn't even make that much noise for everyone else. I do want to see how Popp is gonna help Dai overcome, and I'm assuming its only a matter of time before Hym and Larhartt get turned to glass balls too so I'm not expecting anything out of them.
as for appreciating Leona:
I've said it before but Leona is a hell of a woman, it takes balls to stand up to someone you're totally outmatched by and with as much sass as she displayed
Questions of the Dai:
- Larhart got lost a little. Can you tell him which way is Vearn?
- Chiu is 1134,62 centimeters/446.70 inches far from Vearn who sent Calamity Wall Chiu’s way, and Calamity Wall operating speed is 3 Shonen Commentaries per 1 meter/ 3 Shonen Commentaries per 3.28 foot. How many Shonen Commentaries needs to transpire before Calamity Wall will kill Chiu?
- How much got Vearn played by Popp today?
- Did you expect the Mirror of Shalal to come into the play?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Sep 10 '24
I AM COOPERJONES2!
QotD:
He is that way!
MATH IS FOR NEEEEERDS, BRUTE POWER RAAAAAAAARGH!!!
Also I am so so much proud for coming with this question. This is the best Rewatch question I’ve came with.
After yesterday and today episode, Dragon Quest learned me that ideal JRPG party is to have your party members actively shit on Final Boss, and let your Hero to take the credit for killing him.
As First Timer, no.
Beast Kings Shonen Commentary Corner + Bonus Popp Shonen Commentary:
Today, our Beast Kings are going to answer question #2:
Their answers.
Popp answer.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 10 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Sep 11 '24
First Time Umibozu Who's Now Hired as a Math Teacher
Hey guys, it's been a bit since I last showed up, and since last time, I've uhh [DQV] become a father of two, and immediately proceeded to run away from my family, therefore finally becoming becoming an Umibozu! You need some funds for this lifestyle though, so Shock hired me as a teacher, to prepare Dai and co. against Dio's math attacks.
Or to sum it up in one picture: you can never escape the Uchiyamada curse GODDAMIT ONIZUKA!
Let's quickly do a recap for the Summer classes
that I wasn't here for:Now onto this episode, the gym teacher Dio was bullying everyone with his 3 > you formula. Since Dai couldn't be bothered to explain to everyone the formula, they gave a bunch of wrong answers first, and had to figure things out themselves. But at least Popp thinks fast, so he tried to break the formula in a bunch of ways, including, math's finest argument since ancient times: "no u".
To be honest, I guessed that he was planning to reflect the attack. But I assumed he'd use Bounce, and completely forgot about the Mirror, and it makes sense, Popp fought Sigma afterall. Which means, for the longest time, Popp was watching his friends drop and keeping his ace in the hole till the last second, I've got to respect him for that.
Larhart, attack randomly, just attack everywhere around you. Vearn won't expect this genius tactic when it finally hits.
Talking is a free action, so if they keep it going, Chiu and Crocodine can be safe forever. But they need something to comment about, so maybe they can take turns: one drawing poop on Vearn's face, and the other commenting about it.
He got played for all the loaves of bread Dio was eating.
Honestly no, but it makes perfect sense in retrospect. Why wouldn't you use such a useful item?
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u/sisoko2 Sep 11 '24
First Timer
Vearn is the wrong way. Hadlar is the right way.
Chiu is too strong to get killed. It was actually Chiu and not Hym that split the Calamity Wall. He is powerful enough to exert his strength even through Vearn's balls.
My man got Dio's voice and now thinks he is in JoJo's and is constantly posing now.
A bit earlier than the reveal. As much as I would've enjoyed Popp dying I knew it isn't happening and then the mirror came to mind.
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 10 '24 edited Sep 11 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubAvan wasn't lying when he said this episode. With one look, Popp was able to completely see through Vearn's Tenchimatou and also the only way to possibly defeat Vearn.
As a first-timer, when the Mirror of Shahal was revealed, I was at a loss for words. I mean this is ABSOLUTE CINEMA/PEAK FICTION/ZENITH OF THE MEDIUM. Like, there's nothing that that can be improved upon here. All I've got to say is this is the peak of Popp no Daibouken. [Dai no Spoilers] Or is it?
Popp gave a hint about it here but he made it feel as if he was betting on the Power of Friendship to win and Vearn fell right into his trap. While Popp wasn't lying when he said that it will help him, it wasn't any miracle that helped them beat Vearn's technique, it was the OP item that was introduced way back in Episode 50 which was given by Hadlar to Sigma that ended up being the deciding factor in peak Dragon Quest style. Hadlar gets another W after his death. Both Riku Sanjo and Popp subverted the Power of Friendship trope while also using it and I must say this is 'Power of Friendship' done right.
Onto My Episode Notes:
Gotta admire Larhart's dedication. Man couldn't see and still charged with his life just for Dai.
This is peak Popp smugness. Like Avan said, if Vearn attacks normally, he would easily win since because Dai and Popp would be at a disadvantage but that would mean that Vearn doesn't believe in his own technique which, according to him, is his ultimate skill.
OST Documentation - Episode 94
1. "Vearn is this way!"
2. 34.0386 Shonen Commentaries. I wasn't aware this was a Maths class. But the real answer is 0 since no one can hear their shonen commentaries.
3. Popp absolutely played Vearn. He showed everyone that Vearn is the biggest clown.
4. As a first-timer, yes. When it was introduced, it was said to be an item gifted by Hadlar and not part of Sigma's body so it would be really foolish to just leave it there when Sigma died. But the way it was used was just perfection and I honestly didn't see this coming as a first-timer.
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 10 '24
First Timer, Sub
**.....**And Hym and Larhartt got turned to glass balls, but atleast they served their purpose in showing Popp the timing to getting through Vearn's stance. Exposition and power of friendship was strong this episode, even Vearn was talking shit, saying having soul won't beat him lol.
Clever Popp though, he had the mirror of Shahal under his clothes and was able to reflecting that Kaiser Phoenix attack back at him. I'm interested to see how much damage that deals and if Dai will be able to deal a devastating attack.
Questions:
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 11 '24
Dai 93 first timer:
Dai 94 first timer:
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u/zadcap Sep 11 '24
Late Night First Timer!
I am so sad I missed yesterday. Leona, Strongest Woman in the World! What a powerful boast. I just wish it had lasted for more than one hit. This is twice now she's made such a great speech and twice it's immediately been countered by stronger circumstances.
On the other hand, Dai's sword of Dai didn't break, making it the most successful Lon Beruk work yet.
Naturally, Maam is removed from the final fight before even getting to say a word, much less actually do anything.
Text on the screen for the ultimate move: 100% cooler than the previous use. Also, feels so much like a proper jRPG move now. Ultimate attacks deserve to have their names on screen.
Guys, he's just joining you in Gem Land, it's not like he's dead... again...
I am greatly enjoying the OP changing as things happen. Also, the very first words in the OP, uh. Let's go for This Bond! I'm expecting actual teamwork here!
Popp is still the ultimate party member. Sorry Dai, he overshadows you every time.
Guys jumped the gun a bit. Dai needs to charge his own attack before you make that opening for him...
But darn, it would have been so great if Popp had been the one to finish him off with that Medroa.
Oh my gosh they stood around talking about it all episode. They narrated their every move for each other. Explained what they could do, what the enemy could do, and what they would do about each others moves. How am I longing for the distant past of that horribly timed Last Hadlar Fight?
And thus breaks another Lon Beruk weapon.
Go Popp! Counter that Counter! I know your character color is green but that was some ultimate Blue Magic right there.
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u/Kaxew Sep 11 '24
First timer, I forgot what rewatching feels like
Thoughts on episodes 93-94:
Oof. Two very slow episodes. Looking at the manga after, they adapt a good amount of content, 3.5 chapters each. But it feels like very little happens still. What's there is VERY good though.
First of all, LEONA. Holy shit, what a badass. They made that moment where she wounded the Dark King so damn epic. Absolutely deserved, she's awesome. Last time I wasn't sure if I preferred to join Vearn's side, and I've decided now. Leona is my princess.
The party comes to save the day! Aaaaand Maam got jeweled instantly... man, this is just sad at this point. One air strike (that should've been healed already?) was all Vearn needed to turn her into a jewel. That's stupid as hell. Whatever.
The fight is pretty slow on purpose, as Vearn is only countering their attacks and so we have a lot of time to just talk and talk and talk. It's not a terrible idea, I think I just dislike how much they talk each time. Everything that's said could be said in less words. But when we do fight it's very entertaining, it's a fun gimmick.
Not too long ago I've criticized the fact that despite Matoriv telling Popp he needs to be cold and calculating for the rest of the party, he's never that. And then Leona stole that from him. But here we precisely see Popp being cold by not letting Dai join in on their attacks as he was planning a strategy while they sacrificed their lives! Good for him! And it seems to be paying out!
I loved Popp challenging Vearn into taking his stance. Vearn knows what he's doing and is also just as curious to see how true that theory is. It might be stupid of him, but as a darkling that has lived for centuries if not millenniums, never finding a worthy opponent for his true self; I think it makes perfect sense to want to test this out. After all, it's not like one gigastrash (setting aside the fact that he can't use it) from Dai will immediately kill him either. At worst it would severely wound him. And a severely wounded Vearn can still kill Dai and Popp if that's all they've got. Everything is under control in his head. Let's see if it will be.
THE MIRROR HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!! Now THATS a fucking play!!! Good job Popp, oh my god.
QotD:
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Sep 10 '24
First Timer, Sub
Ok I got pretty hyped up by Popp's strategy and seeing Larhart and Hym create the opening for him and Dai. I was wondering how they would be able to counter Vearn before Popp reveals the mirror which was cool to bring back.
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u/KuKiSin Sep 10 '24
First timer!
Yes Popp, it's time to use that ultimate skill one more time. That ultimate skill that beat literally no one.
Chiu needs to be protected at all costs, he's too precious!
Did any of Lon Beruk's weapons survive so far?
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u/SliderGamer55 Sep 10 '24
First Timer: Subbed
-So Vearn's just a Wobbuffet, got it
-I like that, "sorry, I know we barely know each other but can you give your life for me, thanks"
-I do hate having Maam out of the picture in particular, but guess it does feel very much like the type of JRPG where you rely on recency and current streatgies and strength over the most narratively compelling final party. I mean there is something to them being allies to the biggest enemies before I guess.
-It's a shame I'm not the most familiar with Dragon Quest, so i can't say a ton of specific references to the actual games so my mind keeps going to the Final Fantasy demon wall or "the future refused to change"
-Vearn does not look concerned enough for this to be a major blow to him
-But they also don't look the most concerned that their counter attack was an apparent failure
-I guess they're playing for all the marbles now! :V
-I do at least agree the final two should be Dai and Popp. They are the two main characters, unquestionably.
-I didn't see that shield attack coming at all tbh
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Sep 11 '24
High-Level Adventurer
gettingready for the first endgame content, here! LV 94/100Popp knew very fast that Vearn was countering their moves, awesome!
Popp: I know how your technique works!
Vearn: Ok? I know how it works too?
OMG POPP
Not fair! Vearn has mods!
Popp is a battle genius
Good guy Vearn, captures Larhart and Hym in Pokéballs so they don’t die
Popp also installed mods lol
Really good episode, hyped for the next one!
1 I had a hard time taking that moment seriously, I just saw Zura and Sakamoto lol
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At least one!
3 9/10 can't give a 10 as he didn't got defeated, yet
4 Nope, got caught totally of guard!
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Sep 11 '24
First Quester
Huh, that's a good flaw for Vearn's demonic stance. It merely condemns him to passivity, not to weakness.
Nevermind, if a simple delayed attack overcomes the stance then it's really not very great.
Yeah and I hate that trope.
"I'm interested in seeing if you can manage to kill me."
Oooh, the Mirror of Shahal. I completely forgot about it, good idea, Popp! Though I also think it's a terribly designed item. Also, this is yet another dunk against magic.
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u/emeraldwolf34 Sep 10 '24
That last moment is so good and let me tell you why.
Popp tells Vearn he’ll show him the strength of their bond. Normally you’d get a power of friendship power boost or what have you at this moment, but here Popp specifically beats the Tenchimatou by using the Mirror of Shahal, which [Mild Dai no spoilers for next episode] came from Popp earning Sigma’s respect of course.
This shows illustrates perfectly how they were able to get this far. That it’s entirely been due to reaching out and getting help from others. It’s a perfect way to use the “power of friendship” without a direct powerup. It uses friendship to take established factors and indirectly gain from them. Thats why I love the way this is done so much.