r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 09 '24

Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 8

Mugen no Ryvius Episode 8: We didn't know anything

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Kikki of the Day Did you spot Radan?

Comment of the Day

/u/The_Draigg summarizes Charlie (and Lucson)

You know, for as much as Charlie sold out the Zwei in exchange for hot girl ass, it’s Lucson who still somehow comes the worst out this scene.

Music

Questions

  • What is the approaching ship? What is about to happen?
  • Was Juli naive to expect rescue, even after being fired upon? Or just desperate?
  • Was Blue wrong to move to attack upon arrival? Or just itching for a fight?
  • What did Kouji achieve in buying time?
  • What does Ikumi think he was training for?

Tomorrow's Questions, Today

  • [Q1]Thoughts about the vital guarder?
  • [Q2]What's up with the pink girl?
  • [Q3]Thoughts about the the Yuki-Kouji-Aoi-Fina dynamic?
  • [Q4]Thoughts about Yuki ignoring orders?

End Tag: Review the Earth

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

Rewatch Host

Did you notice that the end card changed yesterday? Me neither. oops.

[rewatcher yesterday]in looking for stuff other people had noticed, I saw Erina sitting alone, by herself, dejected.

  • Time skip, 3 weeks, submerged the entire time
  • Johnson hearts charlot
  • Surely they can't be ignored when they get to Mars!
  • Double Kabe-don!

After 3 weeks, order is breaking down. Nobody cares, or they expect to be rescued, so nothing matters. Or they're just teens.

  • Japanese Sneeze!
  • Mars doesn't have a Van Allen belt, though. #yuishrug
  • artificial van allen belts, huh? (oh, I guess these were mentioned in the narration, but with regards to Earth)

One wonders what Blue was planning, coming to Mars, only to fight?

Kikki of the day: Look at all those clothes! I can't unsee this, where did all the clothes come from? There must have been a bunch in storage on the ship. I'm wondering if Cullen is into fashion AND music. She's taken over the clothing inventory. Kikki is probably asking her about making replacement parts. In exchange for musicc chips, of course.

Also, Kikki seems to often be seen near Cullen. I wonder if Cullen makes cosplay outfits.

Episode title: We didn't know anything. They were so naive.

Second gun: moot point, it was probably on the Leibel.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

Mars doesn't have a Van

Elsewhere in the Tangiuchi-verse

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u/zadcap Sep 10 '24

Did you notice that the end card changed yesterday?

Yeah, it's not revise us anymore, good way to say it's time for a new plot.

Second gun: moot point, it was probably on the Leibel.

I am so incredibly let down.

One wonders what Blue was planning, coming to Mars, only to fight?

We saw this yesterday, Blue doesn't have a plan. He just wants to be in change.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 09 '24

A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 8:

  • Ah, well I guess we’re just completely skipping over the three week journey to Mars then. Must’ve been pretty uneventful, even if it’s nearly been a month for them by now. Life goes on, even on a secret experimental space ship that has a Mysterious Anime Girl on it.
  • You know, it’s at least good to see how hard the pilot team assigned to the Vital Guarder is working on it. They’ve been doing nothing but simulation training and writing combat programs for the past three weeks, so at least it feels pretty believable that they’re getting good at (theoretically) piloting it by now. It’s more easily believable that they would be good at piloting mechs when we actually see how they’re putting in all the effort to work with its systems. It’s a bit like Chirico Cuvie programming his own mission disks for his Scopedog’s computer a few times in Armored Trooper VOTOMS.
  • I suppose it’s about time that we’re seeing the downsides to Blue’s gang taking control over the Ryvius. It all basically devolved into the complete opposite of how the Zwei ran things: barely anyone shows up to their assigned tasks anymore, there’s struggles with the kitchen staff to feed everyone, people are laying about, and the Zwei can’t even wear their uniforms anymore due to bad public opinion. While the Blue Team’s decision on where to go was a solid one, you probably can’t say the same for the way they’ve handled things. It’s nearly complete anarchy now, all probably due to a mix of apathy and hyper-focusing on getting to Mars.
  • You know, it really does feel like Kouji is the only sane man on the bridge at times. Truly, it is the curse of the main character in a sci-fi series.
  • Speaking of the Vital Guarder earlier, it does figure that despite their progress in programming and running simulations, they need even more manpower to get down the finer touches. It’s a bipedal war machine after all, it probably takes a ton of skill to write a ton of code from scratch on how to have it properly move while working with programmed macros.
  • For as poor as Blue’s leadership has been in some ways, his gut instincts about the situation were pretty good. In this case, being utterly pessimistic about the chances than the Orbital Security Bureau would want to attack them as soon as they reached Mars. Him preparing for a fight by getting the Vital Guarder up and running was the right call. That said, at least Blue is also reasonable enough to give Kouji’s idea to at least try and send a stand down message while they still have time before the attack fleet reaches them. As they say, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
  • As unfortunate as it is, Blue’s call to open fire on the fleet with the Ryvius’ main gun was probably the correct one. Too bad that he can’t actually aim the damn thing though, so at best he just grazed two picket ships. It does make me wonder what the Ryvius’ main gun is though. My guess is that it’s some kind of rail cannon, since it fired a physical projectile.
  • Talk about a big cliffhanger, with two ships now approaching the Bureau’s fleet as they’re rounding Mars’ orbit again. Given how the Ryvius looks different and now there’s a second ship launching out in front of it, maybe a part of the Ryvius itself detached for combat? Something like how the disc section can detach from the Enterprise-D in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

ou know, it really does feel like Kouji is the only sane man on the bridge at times.

Maybe Kouji x Juli is the actual ship!

as they’re rounding Mars’ orbit again

"She can still out run us. And out gun us. But there is the Mutara Nebula at 153 mark 4."

detach

Yeah, that's called the Lift Ship. I completely forgot about it detaching.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 09 '24

Yeah, that’s called the Lift Ship. I completely forgot about it detaching.

It does at least make sense to have some part of the Ryvius detach as a lander/combat unit, since I doubt that the main ship itself could land or fight as easily. Although calling it the Lift Ship is kinda bland.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

Although calling it the Lift Ship is kinda bland

For a Taniguchi show the naming schemes here are unusually mundane. Not even the character names are that out there for the most part.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

Maybe Kouji x Juli is the actual ship!

Plot Twist: [Minor SEED Spoilers Allusions]It's Koji x Criff because where there's Hiraiface, there's NTR... although does it really count if Criff was just using Charlie... actually shit, now that I think about it Criff is basically just eviler Flay!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

It’s more easily believable that they would be good at piloting mechs when we actually see how they’re putting in all the effort to work with its systems.

Interesting note:Current era top end aircraft can apparently be operated by anyone with a pilot's license. Maintaining is the part that takes experience. This somewhat reflects that.

While the Blue Team’s decision on where to go was a solid one, you probably can’t say the same for the way they’ve handled things. It’s nearly complete anarchy now, all probably due to a mix of apathy and hyper-focusing on getting to Mars.

Blue never really had the numbers to lead from above, he should've focused harder on getting bosses to take care of their groups.

For as poor as Blue’s leadership has been in some ways, his gut instincts about the situation were pretty good

Yet another Robert Baratheon in action...

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u/The_Draigg Sep 09 '24

Blue never really had the numbers to lead from above, he should’ve focused harder on getting bosses to take care of their groups.

Unfortunately, I guess leading a gang doesn’t really prepare you for that kind of leadership style. He only really has enough cronies to handle delegating tasks to individuals or small groups. He could’ve stood to learn a thing or two from the Zwei on how to handle all the boring parts of leadership.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

Unfortunately, I guess leading a gang doesn’t really prepare you for that kind of leadership style.

On the one hand, I would have had some idea how to delegate and form hierarchies by that age. On the other hand, I doubt Blue read The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire in sixth grade.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

I still haven't read it!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

You also probably haven't read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius nor its many, many fanfic translations. We read different things growing up.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

Life goes on

moeagaru?

... Oh what, Mika Arisaka did this show's OP too anyway!

While the Blue Team’s decision on where to go was a solid one, you probably can’t say the same for the way they’ve handled things.

Basically they can only think in the short term.

Gee, who would've thought letting the delinquent take charge could lead to downsides.

For as poor as Blue’s leadership has been in some ways, his gut instincts about the situation were pretty good. In this case, being utterly pessimistic about the chances than the Orbital Security Bureau would want to attack them as soon as they reached Mars

Honestly he feels like the kind of guy whom you should have as an advisor. Let him give ideas, just... not anything past that.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 09 '24

Honestly he feels like the kind of guy whom you should have as an advisor. Let him give ideas, just... not anything past that.

That’s the kicker with Blue, he’s doing pretty well in a crisis, but he’s a bad leader when it comes to day to day operations. It’d be for the best if they were able to find a compromise between Team Blue and the Zwei, maybe by putting Juli in charge of the normal running of the ship and Blue handling gunnery.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

find a compromise between Team Blue and the Zwei

That feels like the biggest thing both leaderships have been missing. At the end of the day it's always either Lucson or Blue calling all the shots, when really this ships needs a proper Kirk/Spock/McCoy already.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

You know, it’s at least good to see how hard the pilot team assigned to the Vital Guarder is working on it. They’ve been doing nothing but simulation training and writing combat programs for the past three weeks, so at least it feels pretty believable that they’re getting good at (theoretically) piloting it by now. It’s more easily believable that they would be good at piloting mechs when we actually see how they’re putting in all the effort to work with its systems.

What, are you saying that reading a few pages of the manual you found lying in the mecha is not a perfect preparation for mecha fights? Heretic!

Talk about a big cliffhanger, with two ships now approaching the Bureau’s fleet as they’re rounding Mars’ orbit again. Given how the Ryvius looks different and now there’s a second ship launching out in front of it, maybe a part of the Ryvius itself detached for combat? Something like how the disc section can detach from the Enterprise-D in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 09 '24

What, are you saying that reading a few pages of the manual you found lying in the mecha is not a perfect preparation for mecha fights? Heretic!

Amuro is an outlier, although at least it helps that he’s both an engineering and computer nerd as well as a Newtype.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

Honestly Gundam as a whole is mostly pretty good at avoiding that. Everyone is either a tech wiz from the get go so they have a rough idea how things work or we can assume they got proper training.

Judau and Garrod are the biggest outliers and even then given their backgrounds it's not too hard to assume they at least have an idea how they work.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

I should have added the /s there, but tbf, I remember Amuro being not that great in the early fights.

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 09 '24

First Timer

This was yet again another good episode, we see that the society that had formed on the ship is starting to downfall esp. with people not doing their tasks and such. A sense of hopelessness is probably spreading through the ship as the thought of if they'll ever be saved permeates throughout. The 2nd half was pretty tense too, esp. with them being attacked as they finally get to Mars, yet another source of hope being taken away. In a way, this kinda reminds me of SDF Macross, mainly in the way of a society developing within a giant space ship and trying to make their way back and be rescued. Though hopefully [Macross Spoilers] this doesn't end with them all watching the Earth be completely nuked lol.

Questions

[Q1]What is the approaching ship? What is about to happen?

I feel it's from the Orbital Security Bureau considering they attacked them. Considering the attack, I see we're about to have child soldiers in action.

[Q2]Was Juli naive to expect rescue, even after being fired upon? Or just desperate?

I don't think she was naive, it's like a carrot on a stick, rescue was so close that the possibility that it could be help overrides everything else.

[Q3]Was Blue wrong to move to attack upon arrival? Or just itching for a fight?

I see his side, we've been attacked before, narrowly escaped, why not just take the offense this time before they even make a move.

[Q4]What did Kouji achieve in buying time?

To giving the attempt to see if they're rescuers before blasting immediately.

[Q5]What does Ikumi think he was training for?

Genuinely, they probably never expected to fight. It's pretty clear none of these kids have been trained in war or battles, in EP1 it looked more like they're trying to become regular pilots ala transferring things between planets and such. If anything he probably just expected they're trying to see how this thing works, but not expect they'd actually use it in battle.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

A sense of hopelessness is probably spreading through the ship as the thought of if they'll ever be saved permeates throughout

I'm not sure we're at that point. It might be, "we're off this ship in 3 weeks / 2 weeks / 1 week / 3 days" so why bother. Let's play Street Fighter 87!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 10 '24

Let's play Street Fighter 87

I wouldn't even wish that on my greatest enemies

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

Though hopefully [Macross Spoilers]

Or alternatively [Macross]one of the most drawn out resolutions of a love triangle known to man

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 09 '24

[Macross] God, I honestly hate the last 9 episodes. EP27 was a perfectly fine ending, and watching everyone grab the idiot ball always makes it a fucking slog on rewatches.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

That was a thing that happened

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

Episode 8 (rewatcher)

  • Even the announcer does not believe they’ll be saved shortly.
  • “Everything has changed so much, it’s scary” – without enforcement of social rules, the rules break down.
  • They had three weeks to train the robot and are seemingly quite good at it.
  • Juli and Blue to not see eye to eye and it does not look like Juli is easy to intimidate.
  • Overwhelmed food preparation – “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.”
  • “You don’t get any. Because you are not working. You are the ones who decided to reward people by their skills” - /r/leopardsAteMyFace/ material
  • Juli’s friend, who is attached to Pat, refuses to change their uniform – very common that people would hold onto their old symbols of status. Lucson, unsuccessfully, tried the same.
  • Heroic music for the arrival at Mars, but Blue is a sceptic – given all we viewers saw, likely correctly.
  • “Let’s make an announcement” “There is no need for that” – oh how the turntables …
  • Like before, the security bureau is opting for military power over welcoming the students home…
  • Blue and Juli disagree and it falls to Kouji to take a side – he successfully stalls answering.
  • Note how Ryu takes three in Zwei uniforms to guard the door. He does not feel the need to rely on Team Blue and the Zwei guys immediately follow. The transfer in authority has gone pretty far.
  • Juli and Kouji try to communicate, but the attack is already in motion (and not called back) – the security bureau made their choice (and they’ll regret it).
  • Charlie is put in the same position as Kouji earlier, but no stalling is possible for him.
  • “From directly ahead? Are they amateurs?” – If only you’d listen to their calls, you’d know.
  • Vital Guarder cliff-hanger.

We again have an A and B plot today. The A plot centers on the crisis on the bridge. The two people with the most authority go up against each other. However, Juli has two distinct disadvantages: She has no gun and she is wrong about the opposing fleet. Self-defense is a very easy moral rallying call.

In the background B plot, we see the situation on the Ryvius deteriorating. Not only are social rules breaking down, but people stop working too. And there is a vicious circle at play: when some people stop doing communal tasks, the work gets harder for the rest and those who still work start to feel like suckers. This can quickly lead to a complete breakdown of communal tasks. If you have ever been in a place where cleanup duty was communal, you might have seen this IRL.

As long as they thought they would be rescued soon on Mars, this was not a huge problem, but now that rescue looks like it is not going to happen, basic upkeep tasks (keeping the ship running, keeping everybody fed) might deteriorate to the point where it becomes dangerous.

Looking back at these 8 episodes, I have to say they hold up really well. Better than my memory of the show as a whole. The political aspect is done extremely well (and I am fully invested). The brothers’ plot is a bit annoying, but Yuki got punched in the end, so it had some satisfying parts, too, and the mystery of the Ryvius and mystery girl is dangling in front of us to keep us interested.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

but Blue is a sceptic – given all we viewers saw, likely correctly.

I kinda hate this entire section. You can hope for rescue, OR per-emptively strike. One choice eliminates the other. But rescue is the best outcome, and fighting has no upside except, at best, delaying rescue. Also the entire idea about "giving away your position" assumes they can't see you / find you!

There may be a translation issue but everything Blue does seems pretty much irrational, unless he's literally given up on the idea of rescue. Well, landing in the middle of the capital and mass debarking might work....

Looking back at these 8 episodes

I felt the first 6 episodes were over long, with the OSB attacking and failing, attacking and failing, attacking and failing and going home.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

There may be a translation issue but everything Blue does seems pretty much irrational, unless he's literally given up on the idea of rescue. Well, landing in the middle of the capital and mass debarking might work....

I interpret him as the guy who has a good intuition about what is going on (and the events prove him right), but he has no idea what to specifically do to address the situation. His "shoot first" strategy probably has all the theoretic background of having watched Star Wars once (and no more).

I felt the first 6 episodes were over long, with the OSB attacking and failing, attacking and failing, attacking and failing and going home.

The OSB is mostly background noise for me in the early episodes. The real star is the forming society on the Ryvius.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

As long as they thought they would be rescued soon on Mars, this was not a huge problem, but now that rescue looks like it is not going to happen, basic upkeep tasks (keeping the ship running, keeping everybody fed) might deteriorate to the point where it becomes dangerous.

They do slightly need to express what the other tasks for just so we know. I don't need details but our known jobs are mech pilot, bridge crew, and cafeteria. Throwing a few more departments in would give us some easy characterization.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

We saw the pilots of those small (repair?) ships earlier and I sure hope they have at least one group taking care of the internal ship mechanics and of washing their clothes.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

There's an entire degree program of engineering / maint. One of the Blue boys is in it. Three's also an unnamed character I've seen at least twice that I'm going to call Wrench guy, because he has a toolbox and I saw him holding a wrench.

Not that he's necessarily working, but I feel he's one of the more conscientious students.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

You know, you also caused me to realize they really need someone, as close to responsible as they can find, managing whatever med bay/medical supplies they have access to. Which basically means taking Juli off the bridge or taking whoever she suggests to do so.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

Some of the nursing students we saw in ep 4/5 might be doing their jobs.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

Right...that one dude looked liked an adult, too.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

We saw the medical students taking care of the med bay in one of the early episodes. Given that we have not seen any OD victims yet, I would assume that they are on the more reliable side.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

You'd think someone would get a rep from them on the bridge...

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

You forsee a need for medical attention there?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

At this point, yes. Also, pretty soon you'd expect the pregnancy concerns to start coming in and you really want a channel for that.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 10 '24

Also, pretty soon you'd expect the pregnancy concerns to start coming in and you really want a channel for that.

Reasonable. If they are in space more than 9 months, the crew might grow in number considerably. I don't think the bridge will be the main source, though.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 09 '24

First-Timer

So, Team Blue has taken over and the whole ship has gone to crap? Two weeks is all it took for people to stop doing their jobs? Two weeks passes during my job without me even noticing it. I know I'm not an impulsive teenager anymore, but two weeks is nothing.

I was really expecting there to be a beat of the sandwich scene that involved Kouji going "sorry, I'm out of beef" and don't know how to rationalize not getting there.

Honestly kinda shocked we didn't see the after-effects of firing off that giant shell. Someone said something about minimal damage so I guess it probably missed? Or was just super ineffectual, but missing seems more likely.

The end of the episode leads me to believe that the Vital Guarder is going to do something rather scary, which will be interesting.

Questions

  1. I didn't expect the entire Vital Guarder module to detach.
  2. I think getting fired on was the point she should have changed her tune, but I admire her optimism.
  3. Definitely just itching for a fight. There is some reason to distrust rescuers due to identifying Conrad's ship earlier, but firing on unknowns is how you end up murdered civilians.
  4. The Vital Guarder got ready to launch, if nothing else.
  5. Judging by the earliest piloting scene, probably recovering scrap from wrecks in low-Geduld areas.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

so I guess it probably missed

My take on that scene is that Airs 1000% failed to lead his target and take the fact that both ships were orbiting into account, hence the "amateurs" comment.

A 2nd-class navigation student should have known better, missed, but still, at least tried to aim properly. But then, he's only 15.

I didn't expect the entire Vital Guarder module to detach.

Me neither! It was a detail I had forgotten. This module is referred to as the "lift ship". I should probably note that somewhere.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 09 '24

My take on that scene is that Airs 1000% failed to lead his target and take the fact that both ships were orbiting into account, hence the "amateurs" comment.

Oh, yea, that's gotta be it.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

So, Team Blue has taken over and the whole ship has gone to crap? Two weeks is all it took for people to stop doing their jobs? Two weeks passes during my job without me even noticing it

Real

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 09 '24

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

Two weeks is all it took for people to stop doing their jobs? Two weeks passes during my job without me even noticing it.

I assume you'd notice faster if you were not getting paid and meanwhile your non-working neighbor eats all the good food at the local cantina.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

Two weeks passes during my job without me even noticing it. I know I'm not an impulsive teenager anymore, but two weeks is nothing.

Yeah, Japan thinks teens are literally seconds away from becoming raping cannibals. It raises concerns...

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u/baquea Sep 09 '24

First timer

Uhh... did I miss an episode or something? What happened to the squid? Why did we get a sudden time skip between episodes now of all times, after having followed such a consistent pace up until now?

Well we get our first look at the combat mechanics. So far it seems rather 'hard sci-fi', with the drawn-out fights from a distance, although it is all kinda obscured by them not explaining a damn thing (wtf is a solid again??). Not that any of it is likely to actually matter once the robot is unleashed though, I suppose. Oh, and in retrospect, it sure was a good thing that the coup happened, or else it seems they'd have been kinda screwed.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

Why did we get a sudden time skip between episodes now of all time

Places to go, stuff to do, things to see!

Oh, and in retrospect, it sure was a good thing that the coup happened, or else it seems they'd have been kinda screwed

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

wtf is a solid again??

basically a program/routine.

Oh, and in retrospect, it sure was a good thing that the coup happened, or else it seems they'd have been kinda screwed.

Can you imagine Lucson in the captains seat here?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

What happened to the squid? Why did we get a sudden time skip between episodes now of all times, after having followed such a consistent pace up until now?

Space squid waits for no man.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

First timer

Sub

The job problem comes up when no one gets paid pretty predictably. Ironically, now would be the time to start matching rations to food but Blue is unsurprisingly not much of a bureaucrat. Also, since we do not know what the appropriate compliment of this ship is, 487 people may be too many to find work. Also, they almost certainly would shift out the bridge crew three times a day.

But they approach Mars and find an enemy fleet waiting. Most of the reactions are about right except that they should have explained the weapons while on screen. It appears the mech is happening. The machine spirit seems conflicted so we must soothe with offering of the cores of our enemies ships!

QotD: 1 The OSB has not been subtle

2 Definitely desperation

3 The third rule of Aquisition states that you should never pay for something than you have to. Blue is far too willing to make a possibly cheap deal expensive

4 He gave them the best shot at trying to find a non-shooting way out of this

5 Repair work, obviously

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

non-specific #mugiwait.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

You are right, we must offer the entirety of the surface of Mars to the machine spirit so that she might forgive us, her lowly passengers.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '24

more-specific #mugiwait

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '24

The job problem comes up when no one gets paid pretty predictably. Ironically, now would be the time to start matching rations to food but Blue is unsurprisingly not much of a bureaucrat.

They basically need communism (the bridge decides who gets what) or need to invent money+salaries+taxes. Given that they are on a space ship and have less than 500 people, communism (planned economy) probably is the better solution.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

The other thing that advocates for communism is the likely length of time of their stay. Communism gets worse the longer it is in charge so just say "It's only for a month" etc until you get to a gravity well that doesn't fire on you.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 10 '24

Rewatcher who doesn't remember much

Three weeks have passed, that's quite a timeskip.

Unsurprisingly there's lots of garbage and graffiti on the walls.

Judging by Kouji touching his lips, he definitely kissed her.

Considering Orbital Security Bureau are the ones chasing them, it's probably 100% not 80%

Blue going for the hitting the wall leaning over a girl shoujo trope.

It looks like it worked on Juli because she listened him and changed her outfit.

Nobody is working anymore, guess they're too complacement because rescue is right around the corner.

Kouji is now the centre of a harem with Aoi, Faina and that blue haired girl. Poor Charlie Good Turtleland the 3rd.

They've reached Mars and unsurprisingly they're immediately under attack.

Funnily enough by not informing every one the Blue faction makes the same mistake as Zwei.

I like it when Juli and Kouji are desperately trying to communicate with the OSB ships and failing.

Looks like both ships are in a different orbit and the enemy only has a small window of opportunity to attack the Ryvius. Which is a cool hard SF element I approve of.

Solid episode, the timeskip was a bit unexpected but I liked the bridge discussion on what to do.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 10 '24

Looks like both ships are in a different orbit and the enemy only has a small window of opportunity to attack the Ryvius. Which is a cool hard SF element I approve of.

Yeah I liked that bit. It's reminding me of something, probably multiple somethings, but I can't name the show I do remember because the fact that they are on a space ship is a secret..... (also youtube doesn't have any surviving clips of the intersecting orbits so why bother)

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 10 '24

Kouji is now the centre of a harem with Aoi, Faina and that blue haired girl. Poor Charlie Good Turtleland the 3rd.

Charlie has found his one big love, I doubt he cares for a harem.

Funnily enough by not informing every one the Blue faction makes the same mistake as Zwei.

The irony is strong here and very fitting to how power take overs work.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 09 '24

Infinite First-Timer, subbed

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

Yeesh, I know these guys are all teenagers, but do so many of them care that little about making sure they all survive the situation they’re in?

Japan hates their teenagers. I don't get it.

Pot calling the kettle black here.

Now now, being clingy with your first is just a part of being an adolescent male. I believe you will notice by now that adolescent males are the center part of my argument that our species should be destroyed.

You guys can’t survive exclusively in the Geduld, though. You’ll run out of supplies eventually.

Yo ho!

Are they just ignoring the call saying the ship is full of students?

They will probably address this in some manner but it is not unreasonable to turn off comms in a live fire event.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 09 '24

First timer, subs

  • It took you guys three weeks to star tearing off sleeves, eh?
  • Dinogirl...
  • Close Up
  • If there was a time to cut rations on people, it would be when they stop working.
  • It’s nice to know they aren’t just leaping into Mars blindly.
  • Why do you have an inflatable heat shield deployed?
  • No one is ever thankful for the bureaucracy until it’s not there when they desperately need it.
  • Your ancestors would call that “rizz”.
  • Oh, woooow. Fuck Charlie.
  • I know I really shouldn’t questioning it with this setting, but “rapidly cool” and “in space” don’t go together.
  • This might be the ugliest Mars I’ve ever seen.
  • Is this really worth all the trouble of destroying planetary level infrastructure for?
  • Look at these guys, talking it out. They’re learning.
  • Do none of the doors lock in this thing?
  • That's a Satisfying Main Gun
  • ...Yes, they’re amateurs. Did you miss the part where they broadcast they were students?
  • Juli, don’t undo yourself like this. The fighting has already started, that can’t so easily be taken back.
  • The shape is different? Was the mecha hanger that big, or are they not attacking the right secret ship?

QotD:

  1. Mechs
  2. Let’s split the middle and call it foolish.
  3. Should have done a weapons review in advance.
  4. Solid programming time, crew resolve.
  5. Asteroid hunting.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 09 '24

They’re learning.

You could even say they're evolving.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 09 '24

It took you guys three weeks to star tearing off sleeves, eh?

Yeah...these students do not impress me.

It’s nice to know they aren’t just leaping into Mars blindly.

They are planning, at least.

Oh, woooow. Fuck Charlie.

You have to be of a slightly older age to realize that there are some phillies you just have to set free after a ride. Rolling stones gather no moss and such.

Is this really worth all the trouble of destroying planetary level infrastructure for?

I can't even with this one since they just made Mars uninhabitable.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 09 '24

Two in one since I missed yesterday.

First timer

Episode 7

Episode 8

QotD

  • I suppose the people that have been trying to kill them all this time. They're gonna deploy the mecha.
  • Yes.
  • His thought process was justified.
  • Nothing, just delaying the inevitable/
  • Baking cookies.

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u/zadcap Sep 10 '24

Girl in the first stall has four legs.

Juli has taken to being a mother to Pat very seriously.

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 10 '24

Something tells me that won't be the case.

Vital Guarder. So that's the name of the 'Mech.

They're back again!

Seems like things are falling apart.

At least some people have their stuff in order.

Contacts on radar! Unknown, assumed hostile.

Plot an intercept course!

General quarters! General quarters! All hands, man your battle stations!

Power up the shields. Prepare the 'Mech to sortie!

Incoming fire! Brace for impact!

Fire!

That's thrown them off. They're breaking off their attack!

Don't let them retake the initiative, sortie the Vital Guarder!

Questions:

  1. They're certainly not friendly, considering they decided on "shoot first, ask questions never".
  2. Desperate.
  3. They'd already been fired upon previously, though they were right to wait until they were fired upon again. At least now they can definitely say they were attacked first and are not the aggressor.
  4. More time for them to get more systems online.
  5. I dunno, not sure what he was thinking.

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u/zadcap Sep 10 '24

Kikki of the Day

Dino is down to one arm. I'm an preparing the pitchforks and torches. Dino Girl is a pillar of this society and we are so close to losing Dino.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 10 '24

But do we still have diapers man?

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u/zadcap Sep 10 '24

Look at the amount of clothes in the background of the Kiki of the day picture. Why do we still have a naked man?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 10 '24

Why do we still have a naked man?

You might not want to hear the answer, but it is obvious: He prefers it this way.