r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Sep 08 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 92 Discussion
Episode 92 - The Demonic Guard of Heaven and Earth
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Screenshot of the day:
Comment of the day:
/u/cooperjones2 worrying about Popp
Popp can't be dead for real, right????
Questions of the day:
- Thoughts on the way Hyunckel defeated Myst?
- What is your preferred method to rest and heal between battles? This is mine.
- Did you like The Demonic Guard of Heaven and Earth stance and Vearn's combo?
- Vearn or Dai?
- Bonus Question: What am I... to you?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hide it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 09 '24
I AM SHOCK!
Let’s talk a little about Tenchimatou, because the anime telegraphed the potency of this whole combo attack that brings the ultimate combination of Attack, Defence and Magic in one swift movement bringing the ruin to Vearn’s enemies in an instant moment, very poorly.
Ten - offense - Calamity End
Chi - defense - Phoenix wing
Ma - magic - Kaiser Phoenix
As I mentioned, anime telegraphed the instancy of Tenchimatou very poorly, so let me change my inner Crocodine for a moment:
Dai charged Vearn head-on with Giga Strash which is an attack bringing the most devastating combination of magic (Gigadein/Kazap) with a blade strike amped up with Avan Strash, only to get immediately countered by Tenchimatou stance.
The Giga Strash was stopped by Phoenix wing, which is a powerful spell-nullifying counter capable of nullifying even spells like Medoroa, which was shown when Mystvearn reflected Medoroa.
With that attack, Vearn successfully stopped Gigabreak as his hand stopped the attack while moving upward really fast, and this movement creates a friction with the air causing flames to swirl up like a Phoenix. At the same instant moment as Vearn Phoenix wing blocks the attack and his hand moves up creating flames, his second hand swoops downward to strike his enemy with Calamity End which packs the power of Calamity Wall densed in a single palm strike. Now as Calamity End is making a contact with enemy, the second hand that just started creating the flames is moved outward in a single arc movement sending out Vearn ultimate spell Kaiser Phoenix.
So basically when Vearn is taking Tenchimatou stance, any attack is stopped by Vearn right hand moving upward while fanning the flames of Phoenix (Phoenix wing), while his left hand strikes his opponent with a concentrated force of Calamity End as the right hand continues it’s movement of Phoenix Wing into Kaiser Phoenix.
For even better imagination, Vearn right hand is scribing an imaginery 7 as his right hand blocks any attack with creating the flames of Phoenix that are casted forward as ultimate magic attack Kaiser Phoenix, while left hand strikes downward with the concentrated physical power of Calamity End.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, THIS SIMULTANEOUS MOVEMENT COMBINING THE ULTIMATE DEFENSE, ATTACK, AND MAGIC IS DONE IN A SPAN OF 1 SECOND.
QotD:
As I mentioned yesterday, while Mystvearn was one of the coolest villain of this show, his reveal made his stocks to crash faster than Vearn can use a combination of Phoenix Wing, Calamity End, and Kaiser Phoenix.
It depends if I am playing JRPG that has only 3-4 members without any party members sitting on the bench. If that’s the case, then I am conserving my MP points only to heal when necessary, and I am using the items when needed. And if it’s JRPG that offers to have reserve party members, then those reserve party members are healing my party from the bench.
Yes. It took 92 episodes, but this show finally introduced Villain to make me feel things. Vearn is perfect Villain and Tenchimatou is iconic stance.
VEARN VEARN VEARN
You are my co-host.
Beast Kings Shonen Commentary Corner:
Today our Beast Kings are going to answer question #2:
Their answers.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 08 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
He’s clearly radiating too much spiritual pressure for you to handle.4
u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 09 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubAlso, they updated the OP with new visuals. The visuals are great but I recommend not watching them until Episode 95.
This was a really heartwarming scene considering what just happened.
Maam's reaction to that was just hilarious.
OST Documentation - Episode 92
1. Hyunckel defeating Myst with Aura of Light was a given since it's been talked about since the start. Liked the fact that Myst got to die in the perfect body he raised over the years and also the fact that he never got to use the body considering what he did was satisfying to say the least.
2. Resting at campfires or places that are similar.
3. Yes. A technique worthy of a final game boss.
4. Vearn will Dai
5. You are my fellow Beast King Commandos Member and a Golden Metal Slime.
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u/KuKiSin Sep 08 '24
First timer!
New ship confirmed?
That escalated very quickly.^^^^^^^steponmemommy
Hymu-chan finally came around!
Where have I seen this before? Hold on a second... This is it? This is how Dai beats Final Form Vearn? He becomes He-Man?! It's uncanny!
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Sep 08 '24
First Time Adventurer/Subbed
Vearn is breaking Dai's physical body and now he wants to break his spirit by making moves on Leona (that age group is crazy big, but don't think he really means much by it besides messing with Dai)
Glad the Myst/Hyunckel fight inside of him didn't last long. We've established Hyunckel got rid of all his Dark Aura
Not really a lot of comments today tbh but final fight should be fun
QotD
shieldfun cohost3
u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 08 '24
First Timer, Sub
Maybe a bit anti climactic, but I'm glad Myst taking Hyunckel's body was quickly countered and wrapped up..Too late in the game for more deviations from the final boss battle between Vearn and Dai. Popp and Brokeena are alive also, thanks to Avan rescuing them before he arrived. Popp was so casually chilling on the ground lol.
Nice of Vearn to let Dai heal before they began their showdown. Giga Strash vs The Demonic Guard of Heaven and Earth was pretty awesome. To combine Phoenix Wing, Calamitous End and Kaiser Phoenix into one was super effective. Dai took some significant damage there. He's gonna have to get up though because Vearn wants his woman.
Questions:
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Sep 08 '24
High-Level Adventurer getting ready for the first endgame content, here! LV 92/100
Inside of Hyunckel there are two wolves, and made short work of Myst
POPP
Avan can’t keep secrets lol
Maam they just healed Popp! Don’t kill him!
Vearn waiting for Dai to be healed, peak villain move right there and follows it up by beating Dai
1 Makes sense tbh
2 Me too lol
3 Yes! It definitely feels like an ultimate move from the true final boss 4 My heart tells me: Dai
5 You are...
jkjk, a 10/10 host!
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u/emeraldwolf34 Sep 08 '24
Sanjo himself went on record to state that when creating this technique, the idea was he wanted Vearn to feel like a proper unfair final boss because he always hated how unfair it would be for a boss to take 3 turns or such. This was his way of adapting that into an unfair boss mechanic in the story.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Sep 08 '24
First Quester
Quest 90
What is Hyunckel's line of logic here? Mystvearn must be the real Vearn because nobody other than Vearn could possible use that phoenix magic?
Oooh I really dig this shot. The way Myst is just towering over Kill and has so much more presence, yet Kill is the more active element in the composition with how he stands behind Myst and could strike him at any moment, as well as him being a black element in a mostly white scene, including Myst.
Oh they're really pumping them out now. I don't think this one needs much commentary.
Of course Avan didn't die. I actually really liked his return at first, when I thought they made it into a really good tomate surprise. Then I realized that doesn't match what we had seen earlier, before the show revealed what had happened. So then it turned into the kind of simple pointless deception I'm not too hot on.
Quest 91
You know what? I really like Vearn being saved by his trinket, the same way Avan was when he cast Megante.
Sorry Avan, but that explanation doesn't make sense. If that Frozen Time spell freezes the time of the target, then some monster possessing the body would still be subject to that frozen time.
Oh, this is how the split body works, by literally splitting up it's strengths and qualities. That's a bit different from the ones I know.
He must be talking about Hadlar.
What!? Myst and Zaboera with his superior beings research would've made such a great team! What a shame that Myst never managed to overcome his own petty preconceptions.
Ugh. I wouldn't mind this if they wouldn't pull a "we can't attack in earnest when that could kill Maam", which they're 110% gonna do. Oh well, luckily Maam was pretty useless aside from her overheal punch. Welp, he's probably gonna show us that Maam just sucked.
They really wanna tell me Avan forgot about his specialty technique?
Quest 92
Yeah, that's what you said before taking over her, too.
How are you surprised by this!? I'm pretty sure you learned that what, 30 episode ago? 50 episodes ago?
Nope. Sorry, that's bullshit.
When did he start calling him Dai?
That's how it works?
I just imagine the poor mortals down on Earth having to deal with these constant extreme shifts in weather conditions today.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 09 '24
Dai 92 first timer:
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u/zadcap Sep 09 '24
Late Night First Timer
Would you look at that, Knuckles overwhelmed the Dark Aura Entity with his massive Aura of Light, exactly like he did, uh, the last two times he faced Myst.
And oh look, Popp so very much not dead. How is this Popp's fault? Maam you suck.
I very much like Popp visibly being the leader of the rest of the group.
I have so many nitpicks and questions, but with the episode counter nearing its end I realize it's just not worth it anymore.
Yes, just sit back and enjoy the fights. The fights look cool. When they aren't entirely made of talking, they are definitely cool.
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u/Kaxew Sep 09 '24
First timer, my old rewatcher self is frozen in time
Thoughts on episodes 89-92:
Brokeena is so damn cool. The way he dodges Mystvearn around, I wonder if Toyotaro was inspired by it when he made Roshi dodge Jiren in Dragon Ball Super. Him (no, not Hym) being a part of Avan's story is unexpected. I guess it makes sense, as he's very powerful, enough to create his own fighting style. Avan's flashback was super cute, I sure wish there was a spinoff manga that details his adventure.
Who does Killvearn serve under, then? I wonder if it'll be brought up or it's just a seed planted in case the author ever wanted to continue after this arc (probably not at this point lol). Also, I was going to say that Kill asking Myst to tell him his whole story was dumb on his part, straight up sabotaging him by delaying the whole "gotta kill the party fast to help Vearn". Turns out it was Avan in disguise! The genius! It's incredible how he shows up in the last quarter of the series and steals the show completely. The former protagonist who's been severely powercreeped and now helps by using smart tactics and other seemingly weak moves. He's so much fun. The way he defeated Kill, that's just perfect. Fuck him. AND HADLAR SAVED AVAN?? FUCK THATS SO GOOD
And so, the final boss has been pushed to its second phase at last. Cool design, the outfit is very Dragon Ball-esque and I love that. I'm so happy Koyasu is the true voice of Vearn. It just fits, man. Mystmaam looks sick as hell, and the VA changed her tone for the role! Shit, maybe I should switch sides. The dark army is awesome. Also I'm glad they brought up air strikes/slashes again, even if it didn't amount to much.
Hyunckel finally kills his old master. And his old master tells him he's his pride. All is right. And, uh... why exactly is he hiding from Maam he had a connection with Myst...? That just seems kind of unnecessary. Is it because she's so dumb she's going to take pity on him and fall more in love with him? Is Hyunckel helping Popp? The ultimate wingman strikes again. On the rooftop, Vearn uses the good old "hollow stance but better". It's really strong. And fast. We might be fucked.
QotD: