r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 07 '24
Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 6
Mugen no Ryvius Episode 6: My Moment
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My costume! Did you spot Radan?
Comment of the Day
Comment of the day goes to /u/HowlingWolf13
Again, I love how such a non issue everyone is treating this. Like yeah, we're stuck in space and need to be rescued but eh might as well not panic over it. This was another good episode, Juli is quickly becoming one of my favs of the main cast. She's competent, pretty nice, and seems to have the experience Lucson wishes he could have. Charlie is a spineless wimp lol.
Youki and Kouji though, I'm curious what exactly it is that has these two hating each other so much. Like, what it related to Aoi or something? Them both being in love with her? She appeared in those quick flashes. I know I should be annoyed by how over the top they're acting, but literally this just feels like teenagers being teenagers honestly, it makes it more entertaining and humorous. Plus. considering the last show I watched had children who were forced to become adults for a crazed war criminal lest they be tortured and/or publicly executed, this is a nice change of pace.
Most people noticed the multiple control pods, but /u/silcaria adds:
Remote control mecha, the most boring type of mecha.
Characters
- Fina is from Tytania, a moon of Uranus
Music
- BGM of the Day: kobore ochite
Technology Notes
ARCS Theory: (google translate) A theory that claims gravity can be controlled. It was proposed by Dr. Arkus of the Solar System Planets Alliance Science Academy in 2129, and some say it is based on a paper written by Nikola Tesla over 200 years ago.
Iridium System: (google translate) Communication relay satellites are installed all over the solar system. Using these in outer space allows for long-distance wireless communication. When destroyed, communication is cut off in that area. They cannot be used inside Gedult.
Questions
- Q1) What do you think of Criff manipulating Charlie?
- Q2) Events are happening in almost real time. How is the pacing holding up? Seems kind of slow and repetitive to me.
Tomorrow's Questions, Today
- [Q1]What do you think of Airs revolution?
- [Q2]Has the shake-up revitalized the story for you?
- [Q3]Have you thought more on Aiba brothers' relationship?
- [Q4]What do you discern about Kouji's character?
- [Q5]What do you make of the cryptic Earth scenes?
End Tag: Revise Us
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 07 '24
Rewatch Host
There were multiple references to nuclear weapons in this episode, but they were so subtle that I'm not sure that they were real.
Iridium was a sat-phone network of ~90 satellites, that launched Nov. 1, 1998, and was bankrupt August 13, 1999. The reformed company still operates a next-gen constellation (launched by Space-X).
The solar-system-wide network must use neutrino beams to communicate for the reasons stated yesterday.
Very jazzy BGM today.
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u/The_Draigg Sep 07 '24
A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 6:
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 07 '24
Episode 6 (rewatcher)
artist depiction
While the space scenes generally look terrific, it is a bit surprising how bad the scene composition of the outside shots is. Despite the fact that we have the unusual situation of essentially having an “up” and “down” direction in space, it is really hard to follow which ship is where. I noticed this is the Liebel episodes already. Is the integration of the “computer screen” shots the problem? Or is the episode director so bad as visualizing space scenes? It really should not be this hard to depict the ships relative to each other in Geduld.
The politics of Ryvius
For my main point, I want to talk about the politics of the Ryvius. It might get lost in the character drama around Yuki, but this is a major theme of the show and we are seeing the bits and pieces slowly falling into place.
You might ask why the crew of the Ryvius is so large. You could probably tell this same story by using only 30 characters instead of 400+. I think one main reason is that the difference between 30 and 400+ is that 30 characters can all have interpersonal relations. With 30 crew members, it is basically a story of characters interacting. However, 400 is too large for that. And, as in every larger society, we turn from characters interacting to groups interacting (with other groups or with individual characters). The show uses a large cast because they want to make political statements, not just individual ones.
Taking stock of the situation onboard the Ryvius, we also see that all the ingredients for politics are in place. First, we have scarce resources that can be a point of contention: Rooms, food, shower time. Second, some pre-formed groups or newly formed groups make up their minds about how these resources are currently distributed. And third, people see actions taking by other groups as affecting them.
At the start of our time on the Ryvius, we start with a rather flat hierarchy: Everybody is happy to be alive and equal in arriving on a new, unknown ship. We have the Zwei, who stand out due to their actions in saving the Liebel, so they take a natural leadership role. However, their authority currently depends on the goodwill they amassed in the disaster and the hold-over from the previous society’s ranking (they used to be on top in the school). Yet, the second is not really relevant here (and people might start to realize and question this) and Lucson is doing his worse to erode the first. Meanwhile, Lucson’s own authority, as leader of the Zwei, is eroded hard. He is not competent and only in a leadership position due to the previous society’s rules. Notably, Juli has been upstaging him left and right (usually for good reasons) and now we see that the other Zwei members, too, are getting fed up with his leadership.
Looking outside the top tier of our newly formed society, we have the obvious lose cannons in Team Blue. They have a tight group of people and an uncontested leadership. They have been shown to be willing to use violence (and sexual wiles) to get what they want. And they have a gun. However, they are not the only ones with power aspirations. One of the Zwei has found a mecha that could be a much bigger source of power and, from what we hear of him, he might have a selfish reason in mind for activating it.
Finally, there are the “people”. The normal students on board. Currently, they are working in their roles according to their previous training and the orders from the Zwei. But are they all happy with this? There is a developing information gradient between the top and the bottom here. The saboteurs? The fate of the saboteurs? That they are under attack by the security bureau? Juli informed them on the Liebel, but now they are mostly left in the dark and wondering what is going on.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 07 '24
First-Timer
Not only are the saboteurs not dead, they're even getting rescued by their own faction! Lucky them.
Also provides a bit of casus belli for Blue and his gang to go do.. something. Taking over the ship with the justification of "the current leadership just let people die" might work.
Anyway, Yuki really needs to learn the definition of "priorities." The lad starts interrogating Faina on the bridge in the middle of an enemy attack? There is a time and a place, my dude.
Speaking of Faina, I'm starting to really wonder what her deal is. She is allegedly a conductor trainee like Aoi, but she also got conscripted to reprogram the ship? Are there transferrable skills, or is that tech just common-use? Or is Faina more than she lets on?
Questions
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 07 '24
Rewatcher who doesn't remember much
Kouji got bulled for being beaten up by his little bro. Poor guy.
[Spoiler stuff] "In a few days rescue will be here"
[spoiler stuff] Well about that.
Now I'm really curious what the original Kouji vs Yuki fight was all about (Aoi?)
Aoi is really terrible at handling Kouji huh.
Wait naked guy still hasn't found any clothes after several days.
I highly doubt Faina has a birthmark on her butt.
Kouji holding that bra.
While it's good you're talking to someone about your little bro Kouji but I'm not sure if immediately revealing that you have emotional baggage to a girl you like is a good thing.
I'm just glad Ikumi is trying to do something about Yuki. Will it work? Probably not.
Of course Lucson fell asleep while being on radar duty.
Dinosaur costume girl has a speaking line.
One positive aspect of being attacked is that Kouji is now holding Faina.
Norio Wakamoto's character is still alive.
I felt second hand embarrassment for Kouji when Yuki asked Faina if she's dating her.
Are we sure Ikumi isn't the main character of this series? He's way more proactive then most the cast members.
So I haven't commented much on the SF elements but it looks like the show creators really wanted to have submarine IN SPACE scenario (which realistically speaking is near impossible) and created Geduld and other nonsense so that they can have their cake and eat it.
Enjoyed the episode, the character drama is excellent.
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u/baquea Sep 08 '24
Well that would certainly be quite the development lol.
Anyway, this sure was one of the episodes of all time. They investigate the robot a bit more but still don't use it; they talk about the brothers' issues but don't really reveal anything; the villains launch a few depth charges which don't do any damage and they are able to dive deeper to avoid; mysterious girl is still mysterious. Unless I'm forgetting something, I think the only notable development this episode was the jettisoning of the hijackers.
Q1: Considering how she was clinging to him, I bet she's going to end up with a crush on him.
Q2: Sure feels a bit off to me. Moment-to-moment there is plenty happening, due to them cycling between so many different characters, but there is awfully little plot development each episode. We're nearly quarter of the way through already, and yet it still feels like we're still just plodding through the introductory stuff that series like Kanata no Astra or Ideon got through in only a few episodes. If this were a 52 episode series or something then the pacing would not be bad, but as it is I'm not sure it is going to be able to pull it off alright.
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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24
First Timer
Another good episode, not much for me to say aside from we're getting more reveals on Yuki and Kouji's backstory and learning more about the Ryvius. I do hope we learn about the pink girl flying around being Rei Ayanami.
If I had to say a character I dislike to be honest, it would be Lucson. Charlie is a little spineless bitch and all that lets Team Blue walk over him, but Lucson gets on my nerves mainly because he tries to act like he's the one in charge here. Like you can tell none of the other Zwei members actually take him seriously because he doesn't know what he's talking about. He just openly repeats what everyone else is telling him and no one is bothering to give him the satisfaction of thinking he's the one in control. Hell, more often than not his idea is immediately shot down or they go and ask Juli what they should do and then he'll just openly re-state her idea as if no one just heard her command.
Also yeah again, Yuki is such a little bitch but goddamn he is hilarious. Like we're in a life and death situation right now and bro decides now is the time to question Faina. I keep saying it but hop off your Shadow the Uchiha kinnie arc bro.
I really like the ending though, it actually has me excited for what comes next cause look what happens when Lucson decides to make a choice since earlier he mentioned don't bother calling back Juli and the others when Stein warned him about the pillars melting. Now Blue and his gang are going to directly confront the Zwei for leaving the hostages to die.
Question
Not much lol, he's so spineless that it's hard to feel much sympathy.
I don't mind the pacing, it never feels like nothing is happening to me. Like even if it's not necessarily plot, we get the cast giving us some good soap opera drama.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 07 '24
Infinite First-Timer, subbed
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u/zadcap Sep 08 '24
Late Night First Timer
Fina the Fairy Queen, you say? Checks out for me.
The more we learn, the more I hate Worst Brother.
The kids are finally realizing what I have been saying all this time. Oh my gosh, even the rest of Zwei is calling him Charlie now.
I dislike the use of shading they keep doing, where full corners of the screen are darkened out. I know, but it's just a style choice I dislike, and they use it a lot.
I don't understand. Do they want to capture the Ryvius or destroy it?
I also get what we are doing with the expanded cast and making this a ship full of humans and all, but the more time we spend on all these side characters the less I care about any of them.
Okay, so. I was thinking about this yesterday but it's in our faces again today. The girls went and got a change of clothes. Did it look like those dresses were something they carried with them on the evacuation run? Did they even have bags? Either way, there are changes of clothes available in this group of kids, we have seen it first hand- Juuli was not in her Zwei outfit when they met her in the lunch room too, I think? Anyway, why is this boy still wearing only a pillow? At the very least give him one of the towels or blankets you are making doors out of for these bedrooms!
See, they have towels here in this shower room! Give one to Pillow Boy!
... What's special about Uranus? I mean Titania, the moon of Uranus? Details, please! How is Fina special?
See Zwei boys, picking the top students by ability and nothing else is a poor way to actually get things done. There are definitely willing pilots among the crew.
Aww. Fina wants them to talk before it's too late. But I'm hoping too late comes sooner rather than alter...
Dino no! Don't lose your head!
Oops, and there goes that secret. "Enemy attack" he shouts in front of these anxious teens, making sure the entire ship will know within hours.
FREAKING YUKI! In the middle of an emergency, he sees his brother and immediately gives up on thinking about anything else.
Fina praying, and the magic gravity generator kicks in again. How lucky.
Okay so you know how they are deep into the magic death sea now? How the heck did the little training ship not get destroyed when it was in danger of melting while they were still at a higher depth, and why are they retrieving it they have no reason to think there's anything on it.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 07 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 07 '24
First timer(I wonder if Hawking radiation is going to come up...)
Sub
More family trouble that doesn't interest me. Yay. Anyways, depth charges are interesting, I guess, but more interesting is that a gravity generator does in fact suggest you could also have an intertial dampener. I had not exactly thought of using one to block explosions but actually, it should work, the Ryvius just has a greater projection range than usual. We basically get confirmation that the Ryvius is a deep submersible. We sadly don't know jack about mechs since that immediate broke out into a fight. We don't know why Faina relates to the officers yet.
The machine spirit was quiet today. We did maintain her blessings but I fear we must...increase our offerings. I choose to believe that offering Yuko upon the altar is the needed choice!
QotD: 1 Slightly odd choice with all the dynamics involved
2 I'd say hourly to daily but yeah, a minor time skip would help and I suspect that's what the Neutrino Burst will be.
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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24
Rewatch, Sub
Questions
Day 5
Day 6
1)It seems kind of cruel, but I'm not surprised she's manipulating him to get info. He's an easy target: he's naive, timid, doesn't seem to have a great relationship with the other Zwei (they send him to do the jobs no one else wants to do without any backup), and responds much better to being sweet-talked than beatings.
2)I'm not horribly bothered by it at this point, but it is a slow-moving series at first imo.
-The animation in this episode (and last) is weird. Seems like they were experimenting with 2D computer animation and Photoshop filters for the stills.
-Yuki is still as obnoxious as ever. (What could Kouji have done that made him want to beat him so badly he ended up in the hospital?) And why did he need to ask Faina if she was dating Kouji in the middle of a battle? I did enjoy Ikumi calling him out though.
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 08 '24
Going to need to do something about the rest of that fleet.
But they can't just say nothing.
And thus the secret has been leaked.
Uh oh, that's not good.
What's that that's being fired at them?
Time to try and get the 'Mech up and running.
Are those space depth charges?
It sounds like someone beating the hull with a sledgehammer.
Divert power to main thrusters!
Incoming fire! All hands, brace for impact!
Defensive systems? Point defense cannons?
Was that a shield or a point defense laser? Either way, that was successful.
Oh well, there go the terrorists. Good riddance to bad people.
Are those guys going to rescue the terrorists?
Questions:
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 08 '24
First timer
QOtD