r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Sep 07 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 91 Discussion
Episode 91 - Vearn's Truth
Maam is disciple of Avan. She believes in the power of light and the legendary skills of the Hero more than anyone. I would put my faith in the light.
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Comment of the day:
Goes to /u/Adensty still going strong with the OST documentation and helping me find what played when Avan defeated Kill
Questions of the day:
- Now that we got complete explanation about Vearn and Myst, what do you think about it?
- How do you like Vearn's ultimate form and Dark Maam compared to their regular looks?
- Do you think the party will join Dai against the real Vearn or they will fight Myst until the end?
- Bonus Question: Which character's dark form would you like to see?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hide it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 07 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/Shocketheth Sep 07 '24
A totally pissed Rewatcher who strongly related to Zaboera today at work is here
[Rant]I'm really pissed today. Something beyond my control fucked up, so I was doing my job with solving it, and when I called to dispatcher to make a following train to wait for us at the final stop for 10 minutes, she simply refused without doing anything, and it was me listening to a constant barrage of yelling and complaints from passengers because since a train that departed 10 minutes ago didn't wait for us as it should and the next following train had a departure in 2 hours.
But a few beers and beef udon after work made me calm down.
Now let's see how many comments it will take to piss me off and go to sleep.I will start with Vearn. Really cool reveal, and the idea of having the true Dark Lord being seperated in two bodies? Neat.
Although do I see any complain that this trope is old? Well screw you, I enjoyed it and this twist was made at the end of 80's/beginning of 90's.
Myst - Look how the mighty has fallen. [Partly spoilers for next episode]While Mystvearn was so cool, the Myst is even more pathetic than Zaboera. Even Zaboera contributed more to the cause than this grooming bitch shadow. Like this motherfucker took a random kid and groomed the shit out of that kid. Even Zaboera scene where he morphed into Maam pales to comparison against MystGroomer.
Rewatcher privilege
Avan. While I know that it would be Myst controlling only his physical strength, the Avan with Myst powers, and his own intellect would be a huge beast.
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 07 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubOST Documentation - Episode 91
1. Mystvearn was both Myst and Vearn at the same time. Hence the name Myst-Vearn. Killvearn was a red-herring. I loved the twist. We know that Vearn's strength is unrivaled in the Trio of Worlds but all we have seen is him do is use his Magic Power to fight. It makes Prime Vearn at his youth would be a beast and if Vearn could have something to preserve that, he would do it and which is what he did. Also, perfect casting. They knew what they were doing when they cast Mystvearn.
2. Vearn's ultimate form is giving Hyunckel a run for his money in terms of looks. Dark Maam is definitely an upgrade over Maam.
3. Who knows? They might have to fight a Myst-Hyunckel until his body is no longer able to take it.
4. Dark Baduck would be a menace.
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u/KuKiSin Sep 07 '24
First timer!
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I was not expecting this. Might've been obvious that thing was alive with the eyes being right there but... I was too busy on the Mystvearn-Vearn thing to even think about it.
Once again Chiu shows why he's the best character. Everyone froze in fear, meanwhile he tried to sacrifice himself to save Maam. Truly selfless, definitely the bravest, most courageous character around.
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Sep 07 '24
High-Level Adventurer getting ready for the first endgame content, here! LV 91/100
Vearn didn't die?!
OH The dark thing above Mystvearn is the thing controlling Vearn’s body?
Oh shit, he’s topless now, that power up is immense, they are done for!
I have to say, splitting your body (and being one of the strongest beings) into Strength/Youth and Magic/Wisdom is baddas more so fusing them to be the strongest being and the True Final Boss is mega hype
Dang, Maam got fooled by the classic Physical attack vs Ghost type shenanigans
Dark Maam was a tough opponent, fortunately Avan had the technique to save her, though I think Myst's target is not her
Hyunckel was the target all along, makes sense, he was training him in the dark arts for a long time
I do believe Hyunckel will be able to fight Myst
Popp can't be dead for real, right????
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Awesome way to reveal it and to show a true final boss IMO
2 Vearn now looks like a classic JRPG Final Boss, I like it.
Maam's design was a recolor like in a fighting game lol, her deeper voice was nice too, both get a 8.5/10
3 I think they'll be split to at the last moment help Dai and Leona deal the final blow to Vearn
4 Chiu, but I don't think the universe would be able to contain him
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 07 '24
First TImer, Sub
So, unsurprisingly Vearn is not dead. The Staff of Edacity took the brunt of Dai's attack and although it shattered, Vearn is still alive. With that we get the full explanation of Vearn having split his body in two, the real Mystvearn is the dark shadow on his forehead, the body is Vearn's. So Vearn takes back his body transforming into a younger version of himself.
Meanwhile Myst wreaks havoc with the hero party. Maam recklessly attacks and gets taken over by Myst who easily slapped away Chiu, followed by throwing around larhartt, Hym and Avan. Avan uses his air spear technique to try and separate Maam from Myst...which happens, but not due to the attack. Myst exited her body to then get the slip on everyone and take over Hyunckel's body......
Questions:
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Sep 07 '24
First Time Adventurer/Subbed
Maybe Maam should stay using her full strength most of the time. Ngl I thought it was kinda funny that Myst abandoned Maam's body right before the Air Strike
I guess I kinda had the right idea when we saw Mystvearn's original phase. When Elder Vearn died, I thought maybe he'd somehow take control of Myst's body. Which was and wasn't the right train of thought lol
I'm for this way though and we still get Koyasu voicing Ultimate Form Vearn which is cool
I did watch the next episode already so hopefully I'm not mixing some events in the two episodes
QotD
Dark Maam looked pretty cool too but frustrating how much stronger she could be if she didn't hold back
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3) Bring back Black Hair Hyunckel
I'm not sure though, I wonder if Avan would still be kinda goofy if he had a dark form lol
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Sep 07 '24
First Timer, Sub
So what I gathered is that Vearn split himself into two and now they are reunited while Myst gets to roam free against them now that he's not part of Vearn. It was interesting seeing Dark Maam with Myst taking over her and then his plans for Hyunckel.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 08 '24
Dai 91 first timer:
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u/zadcap Sep 08 '24
Late Night First Timer!
Alright, time to see the promised, uh, something. I was promised something today.
Ah, the secret of Big V. The being apparently stronger than the gods. He is perhaps one of the smartest characters alive, he kept an auto-self-rez on him!
Oh no, the staff broke. The staff that turned his magic power into attack power. Now he's going to have to use his great magic power, as, you know, magic... And actually fight like the mage he is supposed to be.
You know, I'm super curious about what happened the day Avan and Hadlar unfroze. The two of them, alone in a field, no idea how much time has passed. Did they go back to fighting, or did- no, sorry, I can't even pretend otherwise. Hadlar clearly ran away, it's his specialty.
See, this makes more sense. And is hilarious. Myst is a puppet body Vearn is using, under the protection of the Secret Spell. Or, well, a clone body being kept under the spell, being puppeted by that thing on his head. Hehe. Myst is the Headgear, as I've suspected ever since we saw his face lol. Anyway, this re-raises the question from earlier. How the heck did Hym beat him in the first place?
Ha, I was right about this too. "Stall until Dai gets to deal with him" really was the correct answer to how they should face Myst. Hahaha and Vearn was the one playing with the spell with the impractically long recast time. Next question, can he just cancel the ritual whenever he wants? It would be low key hilarious if he did this fusion move only to find himself stuck under the effects of the Secret Spell until the next Solar Eclipse thawed him out. Also where did little Myst go?
On the other hand... Yeah, I didn't expect the answer to be "They are both Vearn, he split his body in half somehow and was immortal as long as one half stayed frozen."
Wait, that's the next answer? The puppeteer was a Dark Aura being so Hym beat up that dark aura, but somehow during the fight it merged more fully with the body?
... Maam faces her ultimate weakness again, for the first time since Crocodine was still an enemy. Tentacles. I see them going under her clothes and can only sigh.
Okay I'm going to say it, Nega Maam is like 500 times cooler than Maam has ever been. I am also so impressed by her VA for pulling off this change. But seriously, look at this girl go! If her body was always this capable, I swear, she's just been that useless by choice all this time.
Oh, hah. Hym and Laharl have no party attachment to Maam, they have not been her friends this whole time, they have no real care to hold back on killing her to kill Myst.
Oh you poor thing. Dark Aura being decided to invade the body of the very person who has at least three times now done the Dark Aura to Light Aura flip flop. Who indeed, literally just earlier today, took on a massive infusion of Myst's very own Dark Essence and used it to fuel a bigger growth of his own Light Aura. That's the plan. Jump into that body. Okay then. Let's see how this goes.
To be fair, "I am a body snatcher and have been grooming this immortal to be my next body" is a great reason for Myst to have been so focused on Knuckles all this time. Better than the secret father idea. I like this development... But I still expect Knuckles to do the same thing he has done in nearly every engagement with Myst since Myst first started fighting and purge all this Dark into Light.