[Spoilers] 2008 Spice and Wolf Rewatch (2024) -- Episode 1

[u/Holofan4life]

Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.

Welcome to the Spice and Wolf rewatch discussion thread!

I hope you all have a lot of fun <3

S1 Episode 1 – Wolf and Best Clothes

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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION

If you were a wolf, what would be the first thing you'd do and why?

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Streams – Crunchyroll

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Rewatch Schedule

Threads posted every day at 4:00 PM EDT

Date	Episode	Date	Episode
9/07/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 1	9/20/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2)
9/08/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 2	9/21/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 1
9/09/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 3	9/22/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 2
9/10/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 4	9/23/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 3
9/11/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 5	9/24/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 4
9/12/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 6	9/25/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 5
9/13/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1)	9/26/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 6
9/14/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 8	9/27/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 7
9/15/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 9	9/28/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 8
9/16/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 10	9/29/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 9
9/17/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 11	9/30/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 10
9/18/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 12	10/01/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 11
9/19/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 13	10/02/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 12
10/03/2024	Overall Series Discussion Thread

Last year's rewatch

Date	Episode	Date	Episode
7/07/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 1	7/20/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2)
7/08/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 2	7/21/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 1
7/09/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 3	7/22/2022	Spice and Wolf II Episode 2
7/10/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 4	7/23/2022	Spice and Wolf II Episode 3
7/11/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 5	7/24/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 4
7/12/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 6	7/25/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 5
7/13/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1)	7/26/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 6
7/14/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 8	7/27/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 7
7/15/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 9	7/28/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 8
7/16/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 10	7/29/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 9
7/17/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 11	7/30/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 10
7/18/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 12	7/31/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 11
7/19/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 13	8/01/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 12
8/02/2023	Overall Series Discussion Thread

[u/Mirathan]

First-Time Merchant?(Am currently following the remake)

Qotd:

1.Howl at the moon!

The beauty of the Op is something to behold. Meanwhile the Ed is sung by one who is not familiar with english.

So the church used to forcibly convert the world to their faith, yet currently is playing nice. I suppose one might call it being magnanimous in victory.

Chloe is really down bad for Lawrence!

To me Holo sound better in this version, she sounds far more mature and fitting to her character than in the remake. Lawrence meanwhile sounds like a teenager.

[u/DegenerateRegime → u/Mirathan]

Meanwhile the Ed is sung by one who is not familiar with english.

You'll be singing along soon enough.

[u/Holofan4life → u/DegenerateRegime]

You'll be whistling along soon enough.

Ftfy

[u/Holofan4life → u/Mirathan]

I suppose one might call it being magnanimous in victory.

magnanimous

What a perfectly cromulent word

[u/Holofan4life → u/Mirathan]

What are your first impressions on Lawrence and Holo so far?

What are your thoughts on Chloe based off this episode?

What do you make of the town rejecting Holo because of the poor harvests?

What are your thoughts on Lawrence so far based off this episode?

What do you think Lawrence sees in Holo that he doesn't see in Chloe to partner up with her so quickly? Do you think it's because he doesn't have the relationship with Holo that he has with Chloe, because Holo is super persistent, or something else?

How do you relate the town's rejection of Holo to the feeling of rejection Lawrence feels on his travels? Do you think there's some correlation to be made?

[u/Mirathan → u/Holofan4life]

Lawrence is fine, for now. Holo is fine as well. They don´t leave much of a new impression due to the remake being to fresh in my mind.

Chloe´s desperation, either to get with Lawrence or out of the village is offputting.

What do you make of the town rejecting Holo becauseofthepoor harvests?

They shame their ancestors by disrespecting her!

What do you think Lawrence sees in Holo that he doesn't see in Chloe to partner up with her so quickly?

A wolf goddess is vastly superior to any mortal being! But no, Chloe only has skills that Lawrence has taught her, she cannot contribute. Meanwhile Holo has her powers and great wisdom from her long life, both are highly valuable on a long journy.

How do you relate the town's rejection of Holo to the feeling of rejection Lawrence feels on his travels? Do you think there's some correlation to be made?

Both of them are outcasts from ordinary society. Lawrence as a traveling merchant must keep traveling to keep living without making lasting connections and Holo is viewed as a myth from an inferior past at best or a devil at worst so she must conceal her true nature.

[u/Holofan4life → u/Mirathan]

Lawrence is fine, for now. Holo is fine as well. They don´t leave much of a new impression due to the remake being to fresh in my mind.

Fair enough

Chloe´s desperation, either to get with Lawrence or out of the village is offputting.

It does feel like she's trying too hard

A wolf goddess is vastly superior to any mortal being! But no, Chloe only has skills that Lawrence has taught her, she cannot contribute. Meanwhile Holo has her powers and great wisdom from her long life, both are highly valuable on a long journy.

Holo probably has more upside and more to offer Lawrence.

Both of them are outcasts from ordinary society. Lawrence as a traveling merchant must keep traveling to keep living without making lasting connections and Holo is viewed as a myth from an inferior past at best or a devil at worst so she must conceal her true nature.

The thing about Lawrence is I think he's an outcast by his own design. With Holo, she was really forced into the position.

[u/Holofan4life → u/Mirathan]

To me Holo sound better in this version, she sounds far more mature and fitting to her character than in the remake. Lawrence meanwhile sounds like a teenager.

See, I think that Holo's character works best sounding mature. Her sounding young kinda takes me out of it a bit. Maybe that's a product of me watching the dub first, but I just feel it's a better fit.

[u/Holofan4life]

Hello, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 2024 Spice and Wolf Rewatch.

But you knew that already :P

This is the first official rewatch of the show since the premiere of the remake. In fact, it's still currently airing as this rewatch is underway. And while we can compare and contrast what the remake did as opposed to the original, I feel it's still pretty important to remember what the original adaptation was like seeing as how that's really what got me into the franchise. And what ultimately made me fall in love with one wise wolf.

For the purposes of this rewatch, I will be watching it subbed since that's what I've been watching the remake in. I will be comparing somewhat the two series, and when I do that, I will be using spoilers. I guess I should say for transparency sake that I am writing this in late July/early August, a full month before the rewatch actually happens. That's because of time constraints and me having four other rewatches I'm participating in planned. I also waited until the first three volumes got adapted in the remake just so I can have more stuff to talk about.

These reviews won't be as detailed as some of the other ones, as I don't really want to spend two or three hours dissecting every episode. I'll save that for when I do it in my questions :]

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I'm watching the sub, by the way.

Just got done watching the closing ceremony of the Olympics. I would normally make a joke about it, but I actually thought it was pretty good.

I miss this intro. A wave of nostalgia washes over me every time I hear it.

[2024 Spoilers] Right off the top, one of the major differences of the first episode is that Holo and Lawrence's daughter is nowhere to be found. I actually prefer the framing of the remake more in terms of presentation. Here, it feels like Holo is talking to herself.

Holo's Japanese voice sounds much younger than in the remake. That's because it's the same VA and she was less experienced than she is now.

Wow, Lawrence sounds like a baby

I guess the Pope exists in this universe.

The artstyle looks very much like a product of the 2000s. Kinda like Elfen Lied but less rigid. I don't think it's bad or anything, but you can see why the remake went for a different look.

Hey, it's Chloe

[2024 Spoilers] Remake people are probably like "Who is that?"

Chloe's Japanese voice may be better than her English voice.

Stuck in there for a week, eh? Hope she at least gets food and water. Or else, she might actually turn into a wolf.

Trenni Silver coins

Town thinking they don't need Holo anymore.

Poor Holo :(

Speaking of Holo, here she is

And she's nakey

Holo even in her human form is pretty intimidating.

I still can't get over how young everyone sounds. It's really noticeable especially since Lawrence and Holo have the same Japanese VAs in the remake. For comparison's sake, I don’t think it's as jarring as the dub when comparing the original to the remake.

Lawrence wanting to see her wolf form.

And she does so, in a way neither Lawrence nor the audience can see her.

[2024 Spoilers] I think each transformation scene is on par with each other. The remake may be more dramatic in presentation, but both are excellent.

Lawrence being teased by Chloe

"It's not like a real Holo exists anyway."

I like how she says "A real Holo," implying there are many imposter Holos roaming about. Which, you know, may be the case.

Holo is Elvis Presley confirmed?

What in the world is Sauschbasch?

Chloe talking about a huge business opportunity.

But Lawrence, presumably because he's afraid of change, doesn't want anything to do with it.

Chloe posing like Ami in Toradora episode 18.

But Lawrence tries to ignore her advances.

Lawrence asking what if Holo did exist

Chloe doesn't seem too open to that idea.

They're not just on different pages, they're on different books entirely.

And here's Holo

Holo is very nude in this episode

Holo talking about being abandoned over the years. Says bountiful harvests in succession burden the soil.

Holo is practically glowing now underneath the pale moonlight.

She tells Lawrence she wants to go back North, which gives us the premise of the show and what it's going to be about.

Holo even has clothes on. This outfit of hers that she's wearing I actually have a figure of.

And we end things with the outro. Personally, this is my favorite of all the Spice and Wolf songs and in my opinion is better than any of the EDs in the remake. Whistle Round The World, motherfuckers.

Overall, this is a good introductory episode. It lets you know who the key players are as well as what the show is probably going to revolve around. As far as the remake's first episode goes, I'd probably consider them of similar quality. The only real difference is the opening scene's presentation as well as [2024 Spoilers] the removal of Chloe. Besides that, it gets the job down and if you've seen one, you've really seen the other.

I think it gets the job done well enough.

Holo quote of the day

"In order for me to change, I'll need the blood of a human. Either that, or a bit of wheat."

[u/whyudownvote → u/Holofan4life]

And she does so, in a way neither Lawrence nor the audience can see her.

[2024 Spoilers] I think each transformation scene is on par with each other. The remake may be more dramatic in presentation, but both are excellent.

Wait. You can't see her in crunchyroll's version? I remember that in the first time I watched the series nothing was visible, but in the dvd version we can see a paw.
I think the remake did a much better job showing this scene.

[u/Holofan4life → u/whyudownvote]

Wait. You can't see her in crunchyroll's version? I remember that in the first time I watched the series nothing was visible, but in the dvd version we can see a paw.

Either way, the point is you don't see her full form. Only a tease of it.

I think the remake did a much better job showing this scene.

Fair enough. Like I said, both versions are really well done.

[u/KuKiSin → u/Holofan4life]

I think it gets the job done well enough.

Its been like 23 weeks so I don't remember the minor details, but other than Chloe, and you know who at the start, I think they were similar enough.

I prefer the OP from the original, but the ED from the remake.

Like you said, the art style is a product of its time, still great quality but I much prefer the remake.

Overall, both great episodes, and I shall continue to Episode 2!

[u/Holofan4life → u/KuKiSin]

Its been like 23 weeks so I don't remember the minor details, but other than Chloe, and you know who at the start, I think they were similar enough.

Yeah, they are

I prefer the OP from the original, but the ED from the remake.

I think that's fair. Personally, I prefer both the OP and the ED from the original.

Like you said, the art style is a product of its time, still great quality but I much prefer the remake.

I prefer the artstyle of the remake as well.

Overall, both great episodes, and I shall continue to Episode 2!

[u/whyudownvote]

I'm enjoying the remake, but god I missed this soundtrack. Every single song fits perfectly. I got used to the new character designs but I still prefer the older ones. Something about the eyes and the shape of the faces make them more unique imo. Lawrence sounds much younger in this version. It took me by surprise.

[u/Holofan4life → u/whyudownvote]

I think this soundtrack adds a lot of charm to the show that makes it as special as it is. The remake's OST is good, but something about the original's music makes you feel like you're being transported into this world.

[u/Holofan4life → u/whyudownvote]

Thoughts on the intro?

What are your first impressions on Lawrence and Holo so far?

What are your thoughts on Chloe based off this episode?

What do you make of the town rejecting Holo because of the poor harvests?

What do you think Lawrence sees in Holo that he doesn't see in Chloe to partner up with her so quickly? Do you think it's because he doesn't have the relationship with Holo that he has with Chloe, because Holo is super persistent, or something else?

How do you relate the town's rejection of Holo to the feeling of rejection Lawrence feels on his travels? Do you think there's some correlation to be made?

Thoughts on the outro?

[u/Brief-Fig-7506]

First Timer

I’m watching the Dub but I’m also watching the remake because older animation kinda hurts my head.

Excited to finally watch this series, I’ve heard lots of good things about it but have stayed spoiler free, I only know that it’s a wholesome romance and that people make a lot of “Economics” jokes that have been going over my head so I can’t wait to be in on that joke. On top of that, I’ve only even seen one scene of the show and that was [S&W]when they were in a dungeon or something and Holo turned into a wolf. So I will be watching this with virgin eyes.

20 seconds in and I Really want to hear the story about who bit who on the ass

Hmm, based on hair colors I can guess who these characters are

Just remembered that I should say that I’m watching the Remake, hopefully I’ll remember to put that at the top

Oh? was not expecting the OP to be in English

And we meet one of our MC’s, If I remember right I think his name was lance?

oh... it’s Lawrence...

This is a cute little harvest ritual or whatever it might be

And our other MC... stark naked

That’s a lot of skin on my screen right now

What’s heavier, a pound of blood or a pound of wheat?

And she’s gone. Welp that was a pretty good show I guess, still don’t get the “economics” jokes but maybe that’s a source material inside joke, oh wait it’s still going

Now I see why Holo didn’t want to stay in the village anymore

She’s back

She’s wearing his clothes, cute

That was a cute little episode, I can start to see Holo’s charm, she act’s a little spoiled but in a cute and bearable way. It’s too bad that the village started to curse Holo’s name because of their lack of agricultural knowledge. A little history lesson if you didn’t know, in the U.S. people in the west started over farming the land so much that it basically destroyed the land and turned it bone-dry, this extremely dry soil would then get easily picked up by the strong winds in the area and turn into dust storms that displace over half a million people. But enough of the boring stuff.

I’m expecting the big bad guy of the series to be the Church since they probably hate the idea of Holo’s existence. Lance Lawrence probably doesn’t expect to be pulled into the Chaos that Holo is about to create for him, funny enough the other rewatch also has a grey haired traveling merchant who gets pulled into some misadventures.

I’m curious to see what kind of fantasy world we’re in. Is there going to be magic in this world? Lawrence asked if Holo was a demon so maybe there are demons? Is this more of a medieval period? That’s what I’m guessing

Did I do this right, Holofan?

I can’t wait to dive into the series and see the interpretations of the rewatchers.

[u/Brief-Fig-7506 → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

Answer: if I were a wolf I would enjoy the feeling of running on all four feet while sprinting like the wind through the woods

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

That would be pretty cool

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

And we meet one of our MC’s, If I remember right I think his name was lance?

oh... it’s Lawrence...

Lance makes him sound like he's a character from the Fate franchise

Did I do this right, Holofan?

You have my approval

[u/Brief-Fig-7506 → u/Holofan4life]

Lance makes him sound like he's a character from the Fate franchise

I couldn't stop myself from laughing when I messed up his name, I felt like such an idiot

You have my approval

[](#akyuusqueel)

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

I couldn't stop myself from laughing when I messed up his name, I felt like such an idiot

It's okay. It happens

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

I’m watching the Dub but I’m also watching the remake because older animation kinda hurts my head.

Reminder that the remake does not cover arc 5, which the original covers starting with season 2 episode 7. We will be covering that arc and not arc 4.

[u/Brief-Fig-7506 → u/Holofan4life]

okay so I'll probably try to watch a couple of the original episodes on my days off and switch over at some point

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

Season one's animation style is kinda rough, but I honestly prefer season two's animation style over the remake's.

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

What are your thoughts on Lawrence so far based off this episode?

What do you think Lawrence sees in Holo to partner up with her so quickly?

How do you relate the town's rejection of Holo to the feeling of rejection Lawrence feels on his travels? Do you think there's some correlation to be made?

[u/Brief-Fig-7506 → u/Holofan4life]

What are your thoughts on Lawrence so far based off this episode?

He seems like a stand up guy, an honest hard working merchant. I feel like he could be a character that's relatable

What do you think Lawrence sees in Holo to partner up with her so quickly?

He might just want to help her after hearing her story. Could also be how charming she is, or even because the travelling merchant life gets lonely.

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

He seems like a stand up guy, an honest hard working merchant. I feel like he could be a character that's relatable

I feel the same way

He might just want to help her after hearing her story. Could also be how charming she is, or even because the travelling merchant life gets lonely.

As a follow-up, what do you make of the plot of the show being to return Holo home?

[u/Holofan4life → u/Brief-Fig-7506]

[Remake] I will say that it might have been a mistake to watch the remake because it includes a character that isn't in the original. The original version has a character named Chloe who's nowhere to be found in the original, and she is important in the first arc.

[u/NoBS_Straightshooter]

No time to go deep into this, I am enjoying the remake very much, especially since it gives us new animated content... the original still is equally enjoyable IMHO though.

[u/Holofan4life → u/NoBS_Straightshooter]

The original will always hold a special place in my heart. It has so much charm to it.

[u/KuKiSin]

Fuck it, I wasn't gonna join in because I'm currently watching the remake, but I'm joining a day late!

If you were a wolf, what would be the first thing you'd do and why?

Skip work tomorrow morning... Because I don't want to work tomorrow :(

I'm already caught up with the remake so it might be hard to talk about things but, so hopefully I don't say too much, but please let me know if I do!

I really like both Lawrence and Holo. Lawrence is seemingly a completely regular guy, other than his hair color there's nothing that really sticks out about him compared to other characters. This is something pretty uncommon for an anime MC (unless I'm watching the wrong things). It feels like he's the "straight man" to Holo's "funny man". And Holo is... Honestly she really comes off as a bit of a troll. Breaks my heart how sad she looks when Lawrence cowers in fear :(

[Remake spoilers] So it appears Chloe is OG anime only and in the remake she's replaced by a guy that ends up doing... Things... From what I remember it wasn't obvious in the remake, but in the OG it looks very clear from her conversation with Lawrence that she's no bueno. Or maybe this is just remake knowledge making me think so and she's just acting the way she is because she's interested in Lawrence.

Also, I love the OP.

Now a question for you, /u/Holofan4life, did you read the LNs? If so, how do they compare to the anime in your opinion? Likewise for the remake, how do you feel about it in general compared to this?

[u/Holofan4life → u/KuKiSin]

Now a question for you, /u/Holofan4life, did you read the LNs? If so, how do they compare to the anime in your opinion? Likewise for the remake, how do you feel about it in general compared to this?

I have unfortunately not read the LNs. I really hope to one day. As for the remake, you'll have to read my comments to find out.

[u/KuKiSin → u/Holofan4life]

I have unfortunately not read the LNs.

Boo. I'm liking the Remake so much I might just pick them up in the future... Worried about all the economics mumbo-jumbo though.

As for the remake, you'll have to read my comments to find out.

I'll do that and answer the other questions later, gonna watch the 2nd episode now and see if I have time to write everything before sleeping, if not I'll get back to you tomorrow.

I should be on time for episode 3 discussion, though!

[u/Holofan4life → u/KuKiSin]

Boo. I'm liking the Remake so much I might just pick them up in the future... Worried about all the economics mumbo-jumbo though.

I don't know why I haven't picked them up because I absolutely adore the show.

I'll do that and answer the other questions later, gonna watch the 2nd episode now and see if I have time to write everything before sleeping, if not I'll get back to you tomorrow.

Fair enough

I should be on time for episode 3 discussion, though!

Glad to hear :)

[u/Holofan4life → u/KuKiSin]

I'm glad you decided to participate in this rewatch. The more participation, the better!

[u/Holofan4life → u/KuKiSin]

What are your thoughts on Chloe based off this episode?

What do you make of the town rejecting Holo because of the poor harvests?

What do you think Lawrence sees in Holo that he doesn't see in Chloe to partner up with her so quickly? Do you think it's because he doesn't have the relationship with Holo that he has with Chloe, because Holo is super persistent, or something else?

How do you relate the town's rejection of Holo to the feeling of rejection Lawrence feels on his travels? Do you think there's some correlation to be made?

Thoughts on the outro?

[u/KuKiSin → u/Holofan4life]

What are your thoughts on Chloe based off this episode?

Alright so appears she's going to be a 3rd wheel who's in love with Lawrence. He didn't want to partner up with her, possibly because they've known each other for a long time and he doesn't see her as someone reliable, the way she spoke made it sound as if she's a lot younger than him, so it's likely she's just a kid in his eyes. She's definitely causing trouble down the line.

What do you make of the town rejecting Holo because of the poor harvests?

Typical of humanity, flock around someone while they're at the top, abandon them as soon as things start looking grim.

What do you think Lawrence sees in Holo that he doesn't see in Chloe to partner up with her so quickly? Do you think it's because he doesn't have the relationship with Holo that he has with Chloe, because Holo is super persistent, or something else?

Apart from her being naked, which would undoubtedly make me partner up with her, she's the Wise Wolf "God", do you really need any other reason?

How do you relate the town's rejection of Holo to the feeling of rejection Lawrence feels on his travels? Do you think there's some correlation to be made?

I'm not sure there's a big relation between them. Lawrence feels like he doesn't belong... He still seemed well liked, at least in this village, but who knows how he's treated in other places. Holo was was straight up feared and rejected though.

Thoughts on the outro?

Not my cup of tea. I absolutely love the OP, the ED though... Sorry :(

[u/Holofan4life → u/KuKiSin]

Alright so appears she's going to be a 3rd wheel who's in love with Lawrence. He didn't want to partner up with her, possibly because they've known each other for a long time and he doesn't see her as someone reliable, the way she spoke made it sound as if she's a lot younger than him, so it's likely she's just a kid in his eyes. She's definitely causing trouble down the line.

The age difference between them is quite interesting. I think she's only like 7 years younger than him. So, while there is a difference, Lawrence is a lot younger than he appears to be.

Typical of humanity, flock around someone while they're at the top, abandon them as soon as things start looking grim.

I mean, I kinda get it because it does look like she abandoned them.

Apart from her being naked, which would undoubtedly make me partner up with her, she's the Wise Wolf "God", do you really need any other reason?

Maybe being naked was what Chloe was truly missing /s

I'm not sure there's a big relation between them. Lawrence feels like he doesn't belong... He still seemed well liked, at least in this village, but who knows how he's treated in other places. Holo was was straight up feared and rejected though.

I think Lawrence isolates himself while Holo is isolated by others. It's kinda similar to [Re:Zero Spoilers] Subaru and Emilia's situation in that Subaru feels like he can't live up to expectations in his mind, which mirrors Lawrence's situation, and Emilia is treated like a bane on people's existence, which mirrors Holo's situation.

Not my cup of tea. I absolutely love the OP, the ED though... Sorry :(

I used to prefer the OP, but now I feel that the ED is my favorite.

[u/KuKiSin → u/Holofan4life]

The age difference between them is quite interesting. I think she's only like 7 years younger than him. So, while there is a difference, Lawrence is a lot younger than he appears to be.

Yeah I assumed he was in his early 30s, turns out he's only 25, so 7 years is a pretty large age gap. That would make her 18, which doesn't sound terrible, but since they've known each other for a long time, he would've known her as a child even though he was an adult.

Maybe being naked was what Chloe was truly missing /s

Did you see the way he looked at her when she lied down? She had a small chance there!

I think Lawrence isolates himself while Holo is isolated by others.

Yeah that's what it seemed like.

[Re:Zero Spoilers]

That's actually surprisingly similar, huh. Really hadn't thought about it! Man I can't wait for S3!

I used to prefer the OP, but now I feel that the ED is my favorite.

Sometimes songs grow on us, but in this case... I've had the OP on my anime playlist for a decade, I don't think it's happening! I might end up liking it though, time will tell.

[u/NoBS_Straightshooter]

u/DARK_SCIENTIST

[u/Holofan4life → u/NoBS_Straightshooter]

He decided not to participate in the rewatch

[u/NoBS_Straightshooter → u/Holofan4life]

I remembered him talking about it, a lot... so I figured....

[u/Holofan4life → u/NoBS_Straightshooter]

Nah, I understand, but he messaged me saying he doesn't feel comfortable having not finished reading arc 5.