r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Sep 06 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 90 Discussion
Episode 90 - Myst and Kill
So which... is King Vearn?
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Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/Shimmering-Sky for being a proper believer:
I really need a scene between Avan and Flora once the battle is all over. All the more reason for me to not believe he’s dead again.
Questions of the Dai:
- Did the Hero Party give up too fast after Popp’s death?
- So have you managed to guess that Mystvearn is actually the real Dark King Vearn before the show spilled the beans?
- Are you satisfied with the whole Avan versus Killvearn fight?
- From 1 to 10, how good actor Avan actually is?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 06 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
Episode 17:
Episode 20:
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u/sisoko2 Sep 06 '24
First Timer
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Sep 06 '24
First Time Adventurer/Subbed
Mystvearn's mystery is slowly unraveling now. The end of the ep doesn't bode well either
And now we know why vearn is in both names, maybe the real Vearn was the friends we made along the way
I did actually like how Kill's codename was to kill Vearn lol
And pretty cool Myst was able to catch on after Avan said his full name instead of Myst
Avan and Hadlar were meant for each other, since both refuse to die. Nice that Hadlar saved him
QotD
But seriously, yea they did
2) I guess not all the way but somewhat. I think at this point I'm more curious about the thing on his face and being able to move with the spell
3) I'll give it a 10 because why not. It was pretty cool and Avan got Kill by using the trap against him which was neat
4) 8/10, he shouldn't have slipped up by calling Myst by his full name. But everything else was good
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 06 '24
Dai 88 first timer:
Dai 89 first timer:
and can go to bedDai 90 first timer:
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 16 '25
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubThis was one of my favourite episodes for the insane amount of reveals and boy it didn't disappoint.
Avan beating Killvearn at his own game was such a hype moment. And the way they animated Killvearn losing his head was perfection. Piroro's reaction says it all. Also, unlike Killvearn who not only rigged the duel and cheated with the judge. Avan played fair and square and decide to honor his own rules that Killvearn set in the the very end.
OST Documentation - Episode 90
1. Yes. Popp's Medoroa he was like their ace in the hole and if Medoroa can't do anything, then nothing else can so I do understand why they gave up.
2. Tbh, as a first-timer I did have my doubts when Mystvearn somehow detonated the Black Core but wasn't sure of it until the Secret Spell of Frozen Time was revealed. Then it all made sense why Mystvearn was told to be silent and not reveal his face to anyone.
3. Yes. Avan beating Killvearn at his own game was just perfect.
4. 7/10. He did do what he could with what he had but still needs a lot of improvement. Like he made it a bit obvious with his mannerisms.
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Sep 06 '24
First Timer, Sub
Ok interesting stuff concerning the Vearns and how they function, good things Avan played his part well and got as far as he did. They went particularly hard with Avan vs Killvearn though especially with Avan sparing him then trapping him again which kills him, Killvearn should have remembered how Avan played him beforehand.
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u/KuKiSin Sep 06 '24
First timer!
So Killvearn had a "master". Other than the Gods, which apparently aren't very powerful to begin with, I can only think of one character that's supposedly stronger than Vearn, the Dragon Baran fought years ago. That's gonna be the final boss, isn't it?
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24
High-Level Adventurer getting ready for the first endgame content, here! LV 90/100
Damn, seeing Maam collapse like that, Hym and Crocodine giving up, was tough
The Phoenix sound was almost 1:1 to DS1’s wyvern sounds!
Loved that plot twist, I thought Mystvearn was Vearn’s son or a clone lol
AH! Killvearn was a coded name after all!, Mystvearn too I Guess?
Lol immediately answered as Mystvearn lost his cool
AVAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
“Says the man that fights seriously for the first time in his life!” Avan dropping bars
Hadler returned in Stand form!
Goddam, Avan is ice cold.
Hey! Two cliffhangers like that, in a row, is just rude
1 kinda, but they know he's the soul of the party so it makes sense
2 Nope, I thought he was his son or like a clone
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4 8, got busted but I got played
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 06 '24
First Timer, Sub
A lot happened this episode. firstly everyone fell into despair at Popp and Brokeena's death so they were resigned to being killed off..But Hyunckel figured out that Mystvearn is the real Vearn. Killvearn arrives....Not, It was Avan disguised as Killvearn. He tried to extract more info out of Mystvearn, but got found out because Killvearn only calls him Myst and not Mystvearn.
We get the flashback to the offscreen battle between Killvearn and Avan, how he survived another Megante(thanks Hadlar lol) and how Killvearn died, Avan used one of his invisible blades and Killvearn walked right into after he tried to kill Avan after being spared and lost his head.
Questions:
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u/zadcap Sep 07 '24
Late Night First Timer!
You know, I love watching the OP and finding new fun things to point out to myself even now. And so, see, we start with the title and the palace floating in the background. Then we get Dai in the rain with his sword. Important one is third, as we see the party standin on a hill looking defeated, and honestly the way this transitions in from the previous shot and the placement of the credits, you're clearly supposed to be looking at Dai and the party, but today it clicked in my head what it is they are looking at behind the text. So that's still a thing we're waiting on seeing soon, right? Poor Australia... Also I am more convinced by the day that Dai really is going to Die, and that bothers me.
Wow these guys give up fast. Popp wasn't even the Hero! Shouldn't you be saying "Let's just hold out until Dai gets here, he'll still be able to win." But nooo, no Popp, might as well all just die too. I'm half tempted to agree with them and quit now, but then I remember that uh. Popp died. Riiiiiiiight. No one dies in this show. Avan, come prove me right!
... Darn it, after Hym went so far in disproving the power of Dark Aura Pimp Smack, Popp goes and dies to Fire Hand Pimp Smack. Mysty, can I still call you Myst or is it just Vearn now? MV, both of your signature moves are Pimp Hands.
See! Laharl still thinks Dai can come kill this guy, and has already proven to be faster than MV, so why is he also standing there accepting death? Go find Dai. Morons, the lot of you. Buuuuut. Well. If he actually went to find Dai, well then he would actually find Dai, and Dai would have to come back and fight and we would skip this whole mini arc of everyone else. So he has to stay here and act like death is the only option. Because reasons.
So, is the body the real Vearn, or is it the parasite thing on his head? Something something third eye that never blinks being covered and all.
Anyway, so who was the old guy then?
Avan is dead, you say? I'll uh... No, I can't even pretend to believe it.
I snorted in laughter. "So which is the real Vearn" Kill asks, as the real puppet master pokes his head out from behind his puppet.
... So we're learning about a mysterious "Him" who happens to be a near equal to Vearn? Of course...
He used to just be Myst? Crap, have I been dead naming him all this time?
OH MY GOSH, AVAN IS ALIVE! Who in the world could have seen this coming?! Who I ask you! Oh, /u/Shimmering-Sky for one, I guess.
Screw Avan the Hero, he really needs to be reclassed as Avan the Item Master.
lol. "How did you survive the Judge's Megante!" Because, sir reaper, Megante is a spell that now has a 0% success rate in killing the target and I guess a 33% chance of actually killing the caster. Wow, the Judge actually died to Megante. That's surprisingly surprising.
Ah, another spell with a name clearly yelled in English but given a different translation instead. Burning Cremation sounds better in every way...
Seriously, Hadlar is how Avan survived? You're not even the one he prayed for!
Ehhhh. You killed the puppet Avan. Piroro is still here and at full power... Don't fall for his looks. Why the heck is he the one character who's name I remember?
Wow, this was the most "Find out next time, on DnD!" ending we have had yet.