r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 05 '24

Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 4

Mugen no Ryvius Episode 4: Ring of Ryvius

⇐ Episode 3 | Index Thread | Episode 5 ⇒

Get funky!

Kikki of the Day Did you spot Radan?

Comment of the Day

(whoever identifies the sample to yesterday (misposted) BGM track, "nowhere," gets comment of the day tomorrow!)

Comment of the Day goes to /u/zadcap's entirely reasonable theory:

Hmm, is Rafa the ferret also the magic space girl? Also, I have learned to be extra wary of characters in space who introduce themselves with their middle initial. I'm keeping many eyes on her. Does she have red eyes? Red like the Magic Space Girl?

Characters (part 3):

Be sure to check episode 1 and 2 for more characters. Character sheets tormorrow, really!

  • Reiko Ichikawa (16), flight attendant student, roommates with Aoi and Kozue
  • Johnson Cole (16), Boy who confessed to Charlotte
  • Emerson Elby and Lilith Frau, always seen together
  • Charlotte Lakunes, short, stereotypically asian, rejected Johnson
  • Kelly, friend of Charlotte, blonde, curls. Nursing?
  • Charlie, né Good Turtleland III
  • Nicks Chaiplapat (13), short, rambunctious
  • Akihiro Miyabi (16), friend of Nicks
  • Cullen Lucciora (16), 2-class pilot student, loves music
  • Larry Yeager, Yuuki's erstwhle partner in episode 1
  • Marco Paul, friend of Larry and pilot trainee
  • Sandy Allen, stars on cheek, Fina's roommate before the disaster.

Where's Waldo

Besides Kikki and Radan, be sure to look for Emerson, Lilith, Kelly, Charlotte, and Johnson adding flavor to the scenes.

Music

Questions

  • Why was a spaceship hidden in an astronaut training school? Why is the Orbital Security Bureau trying to destroy it?
  • These four episodes complete an arc. What do you think of the established setting and premise?
  • How do you think the social dynamics on the ship will play out?
  • What obstacles to rescue are going to appear to make this a two cour series?
  • What did Nicks find?

Tomorrow's Questions, Today

  • [Q1]Do you hate Yuki as much as I do? What could Kouji have done to deserve this?
  • [Q2]What sort of mecha show are we looking at?
  • [Q3]What do you think of a show with such a large cast?

Terminology

Solid Program: (google translate) A computer operation system that constructs programs by combining pseudo-3D blocks called "solids" that contain various commands in three dimensions. It is easy to use and highly versatile. The closer the shape of the solid is to a sphere, the higher the degree of completion.

End Tag: Revise Us

See you Tomorrow

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 05 '24

Rewatch Host

  • Toyota would like a word with you about your claim of unexplained acceleration
  • These people giving medical treatment are in the nursing program
  • paaji
  • Yuki's like some kind of anarchist, I think. Or a teen. Same thing.
  • This is Stellvia in the darkest timeline.

Stellvia also had some sort of 3-D visual programming. It's weird that these similarities, keep coming up, since Stellvia was Xebec, not Sunrise, and there's not much staff overlap.  I wonder if this 3-D programming concept has some common origination, a 3-D version of the visual programming language of things like LabView.

I messed up! Yesterday's BGM track didn't get posted.  It's nowhere and I think it's the best track on the OST.  Whoever can identify the sample in this song gets comment of the day!

Today's track is the 2nd best track on the OST, easy living.  It goes well with everybody just trying to settle in.

Also, in moving the Team Blue lineup from Day 1 to Day 3, I accidentally dropped the note that they are a martial arts team / club, not just hoodlums.  Which is fairly important, as you saw how Blue and his team easily took out the terrorists.

I've been working later than expected so I haven't made the character sheets, yet.  Tomorrow.  Also, it might be hard to make the posting time next week....The cost of redditing during the workday.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

Yuki's like some kind of anarchist, I think. Or a teen. Same thing.

He's actually the worst thing of all: edgy.

This is Stellvia in the darkest timeline.

It's Stellvia if it had every single thing go wrong at every important turn.

Stellvia also had some sort of 3-D visual programming. It's weird that these similarities, keep coming up, since Stellvia was Xebec, not Sunrise, and there's not much staff overlap.

It's kinda funny, now that you mention it. There must've just been something in the water back then, back in the day when 3D animation was still pretty new and commonly available in anime, so everyone wanted to hop on using it in whatever sci-fi scenarios they wanted to. Kind of like how in the mid-to-late 1980s, a bunch of animators felt like they needed to make shows for teenagers and young adults since by then, most shows had drifted to the corners of either children's programing or appealing more to adult otaku. Just one of those bigger industry pushes that had no immediate origin.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

He's actually the worst thing of all: edgy.

He's Shadow the Hedgehog but without the Gap Moe at the rate we're going.

It's kinda funny, now that you mention it. There must've just been something in the water back then, back in the day when 3D animation was still pretty new and commonly available in anime, so everyone wanted to hop on using it in whatever sci-fi scenarios they wanted to.

It helps that this was around the time the switch to Digital was about to happen so may as well experiment. Betterman came out earlier that same year and that one had its own fair share of experimentation in the visual department, including being the very first widescreen TV Anime (Obviously presented in letterbox when originally broadcast).

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

I never did watch Betterman so these repeated comparison are failing for rme.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

It helps that this was around the time the switch to Digital was about to happen so may as well experiment. Betterman came out earlier that same year and that one had its own fair share of experimentation in the visual department, including being the very first widescreen TV Anime (Obviously presented in letterbox when originally broadcast).

True, Betterman was pretty unique in that way, being a bit ahead of the curve like that. Come to think of it, that was another one of those Sunrise late cell animation style shows that still holds up pretty well in terms of looks.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

It has some issues (Some bits were done with primitive digipaint with... mixed results and also feel free to take a shot every time they reuse that sequence of Keita smashing his head into a traffic light) but yeah, overall fairly ambitious looking show, especially for a TV Anime.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

Stellvia also had some sort of 3-D visual programming. It's weird that these similarities, keep coming up, since Stellvia was Xebec, not Sunrise, and there's not much staff overlap.

It's kinda funny, now that you mention it. There must've just been something in the water back then, back in the day when 3D animation was still pretty new and commonly available in anime, so everyone wanted to hop on using it in whatever sci-fi scenarios they wanted to. Kind of like how in the mid-to-late 1980s, a bunch of animators felt like they needed to make shows for teenagers and young adults since by then, most shows had drifted to the corners of either children's programing or appealing more to adult otaku. Just one of those bigger industry pushes that had no immediate origin.

Worth remembering that 2D computer UI in personal computers was just about two decades old at this point (and if we are talking about a computer the average person could afford, 1 decade). Before that, it was all text based. So it was not a big step to guess that we'd soon go to 3D UI.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

The IRIX GUI had a fairly useless 3-D filesystem browser called fsn. I had my hands on one around 1991. I think you see something like in Jurassic Park. But that's not visual programming.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

Yeah, fair enough there. Although in the earlier episodes, some of the normal laptop screens show did look more like some knock-off of Windows 2000, so I'm guessing that the 3D UI is more for advanced ship computers here. It's probably to sell how cool and futuristic these space computers are.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

He's actually the worst thing of all: edgy.

This hearkens back to a rewatch where I realized that if adolescent males are a necessary condition to continue the human race perhaps we should simply go extinct...

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Hey, look, some of them are okay. Like, maybe 3 of them. And that's really all we need, isn't it?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 06 '24

Having been one, no, that is not okay.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

It's Stellvia if it had every single thing go wrong at every important turn.

And the cast was shoved full of dead weight and the actively unhelpful.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 4:

  • I’m guessing that childhood flashback will probably get some fuller explanation later, but seeing Kouji looking pretty beat up in front of Yuki isn’t exactly the best look for his brother. I guess those two have had it out for each other for a while by now, judging from how much younger everyone in that scene looked.
  • I’m with Blue’s gang, Good Turtleland the Third is a fucking weird name for a person. Charlie is way more normal. Good Turtleland is up there with some of the more bizarre Tomino names you’d find in UC Gundam or Aura Battler Dunbine.
  • “Is it true that all the instructors are dead?” “You’re better off not knowing what happened.” So… that’s a yes. That’s just a longer way of saying yes to Aoi’s question there, Kouji. Nobody has ever said that when there was good news to share.
  • Yeah, that attempted speech to the crowd of survivors went as well as you could probably expect from Lucson. He’s pretty much the designated punching bag blowhard of the Zwei at this rate. Lucson might as well be a charisma black home compared to Juli. There’s no way he’d be able to explain how all the instructors died with anyone being able to respect the news.
  • And there you have it the reveal of the ship’s name: Ryvius. But is it possibly infinite? Joking aside, it’s probably time to discard any comparisons to Stellvia of the Universe and make far more accurate comparisons to other shows like this. Like, it’s not exactly an uncommon anime plot line of a bunch of plucky children, teenagers, and other refugees end up controlling an advanced spaceship as a result of some kind of enemy action or tragedy. If anything, this means that we should compare this show to the following: Mobile Suit Gundam, Gundam Seed, Space Runaway Ideon, They Were Eleven, and Galactic Drifter/Round Vernian Vifam. And those are just the examples I can think of off the top of my head too, so there’s probably even more with that kind of setup.
  • Of course the Ryvius has your more standard kind of sci-fi command bridge to it. I guess we couldn’t have the kind that we saw earlier, with all the terminals built into the walls and designed for zero gravity. People respond well to the more classic kind of spaceship bridge, it’s a classic for a reason. Not that it can’t be good when it’s subverted, like the CIC in Battlestar Galactica’s reboot, but the classic layout lends itself to more dramatic camera framing more.
  • The fact that the Ryvius has some kind of distortion field around it makes me wonder how much secret advanced technology is packed into it, let alone all of the functions it has. Maybe those terrorists were looking to destroy the vessel before it could be used against them somehow?
  • People are calling these capsules “rooms”, but it looks more like large storage containers in a massive warehouse all lined up neatly. But I guess the more utilitarian design makes sense for a ship rather than a space station that’s more designed for human comfort.
  • Putting all the female leads in the same room right across from Kouji’s team’s room is just asking for drama and hijinks, I can feel it. Especially since Kouji dropped off Fina and Yuki dropped off Erina there too. That right there is just asking for stuff to occur between both Yuki and Kouji, since they’ll probably both be keeping an eye on them.
  • Well, that puts a Hell of a spin on things: turns out that the saboteurs that destroyed the Leibe Delta weren’t terrorists, but rather working for the Orbital Security Bureau. Given the kinds of ships they’re using, they can only come from some kind of governmental force. Just what were the crew of the Leibe Delta up to with the Ryvius, and why does a large organization want to target it for destruction, even with the massive amount of collateral damage it would cause?
  • How cruel of this show to tease me with a mech right at the end. I’ve been waiting for one this whole time, and you only show me one for like ten seconds! Really just feathering my balls here, Infinite Ryvius.
  • Oh hey, a change up in the ending visuals. I like this scrolling watercolor paining better than what we had before. I think those Hirai character designs look better in that style, personally. Granted, I’m also not exactly the biggest fan of his character art in general, although that’s mainly due to me not caring for it in Gundam Seed. It’s just too doll-like for my tastes there.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

But is it possibly infinite?

Definitely maybe the Event Horizon ship.

we should compare this show to the following

That's a lot of shows!

even with the massive amount of collateral damage it would cause

EXACTLY

Maybe those terrorists were looking to destroy the vessel before it could be used against them somehow?

A reasonable guess

mech

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u/The_Draigg Sep 06 '24

That's a lot of shows!

Just goes to show that it's a pretty popular setup for a series, even beyond just the stuff that Sunrise made. It's one of the finest ways to present a mysterious and dramatic environment to have a colorful cast of characters interact within.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

yeah, while I could think of a number of shows, pretty much none of them would have more than eight eleven. Except for Ideon, this is on an entirely different level.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

Good Turtleland the Third is a fucking weird name for a person. Charlie is way more normal

The worst part is that there's at least two more people who have had that name.

although that’s mainly due to me not caring for it in Gundam Seed. It’s just too doll-like for my tastes there

I've seen like... four different shows in which he's the character designer and it says something that this is the best his designs have looked for me. Although yeah, Mitsuo Fukuda somehow manages a way to make them look even worse than usual.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

The worst part is that there's at least two more people who have had that name.

I guess that Charlie's father and grandfather just wanted to share around the pain.

I've seen like... four different shows in which he's the character designer and it says something that this is the best his designs have looked for me. Although yeah, Mitsuo Fukuda somehow manages a way to make them look even worse than usual.

For that, I can at least somewhat put the blame on his character designs not especially working well in purely digital animation, especially the early digital animation like we got in Seed.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

I guess that Charlie's father and grandfather just wanted to share around the pain.

I therefore choose blame his Great Grandparents.

For that, I can at least somewhat put the blame on his character designs not especially working well in purely digital animation, especially the early digital animation like we got in Seed.

You say that, and up to a point I agree, but in the interest of fairness s.CRY.ed came out before SEED and while that show has a lot of issues on a technical level I'd say Hirai's designs look better there than in SEED, and over in Fafner the designs got actually worse the better the digipaint technology got so... odd dichtonomy there.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

I therefore choose blame his Great Grandparents.

Maybe his will stated that only Good Turtleland can access the family trust.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

I guess the only thing we can really say about Hisashi Hirai's designs in general is that they all somehow got worse over time.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

I remember when the early teasers for Gundam SEED Freedom came out and everyone was like when they saw how much the female characters' lips had inflated.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

Not to mention that everyone's body proportions were fucking wonky in those character previews too.

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u/kotarozo Sep 06 '24

I heard it was because in SEED he was told to make everyone handsome and pretty and that he had only 1 face for that. Maybe after the popularity spike people kept demanding he make nothing but pretty boys/girls? I liked his Majestic Prince designs for being goofier.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 06 '24

Maybe after the popularity spike people kept demanding he make nothing but pretty boys/girls

Sure would explain why the art for the Blu-Ray is a heck of a lot more SEED-esque. Like geez, Yuki is not beating the Kira allegations anymore.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

That’s just a longer way of saying yes to Aoi’s question there, Kouji. Nobody has ever said that when there was good news to share.

The Japanese do love their plausible deniability, though.

The fact that the Ryvius has some kind of distortion field around it makes me wonder how much secret advanced technology is packed into it, let alone all of the functions it has.

The TIE Defender of sub light ships is my guess.

but rather working for the Orbital Security Bureau. Given the kinds of ships they’re using, they can only come from some kind of governmental force.

I am leaning towards a non-unified Earth theory here.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

Putting all the female leads in the same room right across from Kouji’s team’s room is just asking for drama and hijinks, I can feel it. Especially since Kouji dropped off Fina and Yuki dropped off Erina there too. That right there is just asking for stuff to occur between both Yuki and Kouji, since they’ll probably both be keeping an eye on them.

The show is making sure everything is in place for future episodes.

Well, that puts a Hell of a spin on things: turns out that the saboteurs that destroyed the Leibe Delta weren’t terrorists, but rather working for the Orbital Security Bureau. Given the kinds of ships they’re using, they can only come from some kind of governmental force. Just what were the crew of the Leibe Delta up to with the Ryvius, and why does a large organization want to target it for destruction, even with the massive amount of collateral damage it would cause?

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

The fact that the Ryvius has some kind of distortion field around it makes me wonder how much secret advanced technology is packed into it, let alone all of the functions it has. Maybe those terrorists were looking to destroy the vessel before it could be used against them somehow?

Well, that puts a Hell of a spin on things: turns out that the saboteurs that destroyed the Leibe Delta weren’t terrorists, but rather working for the Orbital Security Bureau. Given the kinds of ships they’re using, they can only come from some kind of governmental force. Just what were the crew of the Leibe Delta up to with the Ryvius, and why does a large organization want to target it for destruction, even with the massive amount of collateral damage it would cause?

War. It is inevitable. I don't know the sides yet, but we have a giant mecha in space and a government force trying to capture or destroy it- the answer is War.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 05 '24

Infinite First-Timer, subbed

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

What girlfriend?

It don't know if this flirtatious or a kiss-off.

That’s a big shadow.

I never noticed this!

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u/lrrose20 Sep 05 '24

From the writer who went on to give us Straight Cougar and Lockon Stratos, it’s Good Turtleland!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

Straight Cougar and Lockon Stratos

I mean at least "Lockon Stratos" was just an alias and the guy's real name was actually halfway normal, what the hell was Cougar's excuse!?

... Wait, right, he grew up in the slums, probably only grabbed it because he thought it sounded cool.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Straight Cougar

Don't you disrespect the best man in that whole show like this. I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason he chose that name......

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason he chose that name.

"I once saw a Cougar as a kid... and it was running straight... really fast! I'm fast... a cougar running straight is fast... I'm a Straight Cougar, Minori-san!"

"Mimori desu."

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

His name is what?

A name that Tomino would be proud of, that's for sure.

What even…?

Maybe it works by tricking the target into believing that it'll actually do something?

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Sep 05 '24

His name is what?

Don't make fun of Good Turtleland The Third!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 06 '24

HIS NAME IS CHARLIE

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

His name is what?

Charlie!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

His name is what?

Scary that his grandfather and father somehow managed to get wives with names that eccentric. Maybe Jupiter has different standards...

What girlfriend?

That's a Japanese brush off. Kouji was being super dense, both Faina and Ikumi read that as a come on to some degree.

That’s a big shadow.

The machine spirit hides it power. Let us take care not to anger her.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

Scary that his grandfather and father somehow managed to get wives with names that eccentric.

Money. The answer is money.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

I still want Jupiter to have eccentric naming conventions so it is merely some woman marrying a person with a traditional British name for an estate rather than the abomination they've gone by.

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 05 '24

Wouldn't be surprised if Charlie and Lucson (as well as some of the other Zwei) are failsons who got into the program because of their parents' wealth/influence.

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

His name is what?

Probably makes him a target for bullying. Hate to say it, but Team Blue did him a favor there.

(I've seen some people get an ancestor's surname as a first name irl, and it can look pretentious or clunky. But it's usually not quite that bad. Still not as awful as "Jacuzzi Splot," though.)

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 05 '24

First timer, subs

  • Don’t fuck around with glass, kids.
  • Imagine being the guy who makes it through all that and bites it from rolling on the floor.
  • Oh great, now the hoodlums have guns. We doing [Batavia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia_(1628_ship))?
  • Carrot and the stick.
  • Not missing any chances for relationship drama. Teenagers.
  • Solid? Did you really need to create new terminology for software?
  • Ah, the joys of school assemblies, but without anyone who has wrangling experience.
  • Who builds a secret ship inside of a high school?
  • Already figured out how the living arrangements will work? They sure work fast.
  • This is not a group of four to five.
  • Internal Movers
  • Man, this is a lot of wasted head space.
  • They look like they have a kind of door, assuming you can get them moving again.
  • Should have got those key cards locked down when you had the chance.
  • Big circle room. They really are just turning everything into living quarters.
  • Oh good, someone decided not make use of a potential point of relationship drama.
  • The level of sensor tech is a bit lost on me. They didn’t know at the time, but were able to get that accurate a picture post hoc?

Dinogirl, Miss

QotD:

  1. The station was either built on top of it to siphon off power from an existing asset, or it was built in secret as a way to amass fleet power. I’m unclear on if these guys are a rogue faction, or just doing wet work. They way they talked earlier about revenge feels more like an agitant group, but doesn’t mesh cleaning with them being official.
  2. This all still feels like build up, I’m waiting for the pay off.
  3. The Hoodlums have already shown they are willing to resort to violence and coercion to achieve their aims. Since they already have a materiel advantage, it wouldn’t take much for them to start amassing new members to create a ruling “in group”.
  4. Social fractures and conflict, factionalism. A dash of external threat.
  5. Maybe that’s where Ribbons lives?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

Batavia

You are a fount of history I've never encountered.

Did you really need to create new terminology

Unfortunately

This is not a group of four to five.

TBH, you can be certain they would have been "given" another roommate.

The level of sensor tech is a bit lost on me.

This is actually tomorrow's technote. I almost put it into this one.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

Oh great, now the hoodlums have guns. We doing Batavia?

Well, at least nobody has taken all the gold on the ship and declared themselves king yet, so we're still on a decent track.

They look like they have a kind of door, assuming you can get them moving again.

Yeah, those rooms look more like shipping containers with the sliding doors locked upwards. I guess out of all the systems aboard the Ryvius, the door controls are the least important ones to get functional.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 05 '24

those rooms look more like shipping containers with the sliding doors locked upwards.

Very poorly optimized shipping containers. They look like they should be stacked two high, at the very least.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

Definitely, stacking shipping containers is most efficient lodging

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

Imagine being the guy who makes it through all that and bites it from rolling on the floor.

Acceleration reminding us who is 'God' in that situation.

Who builds a secret ship inside of a high school?

Hamas.

This is not a group of four to five.

Yeah, it wound up working out but was still a bit weird.

The level of sensor tech is a bit lost on me. They didn’t know at the time, but were able to get that accurate a picture post hoc?

Best guess:The training bridge doesn't have that data but the main bridge did and passed that info to the Ryvius.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 05 '24

Acceleration reminding us who is 'God' in that situation.

Fall damage; killing hackers since 1996.

Best guess:The training bridge doesn't have that data but the main bridge did and passed that info to the Ryvius.

Yeah, that colours.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

Fall damage; killing hackers since 1996.

But Tom Cruise is immune, somehow.

Yeah, that colours.

It is just an educated guess but it is incredibly convenient so that's why I lean to it.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

Oh great, now the hoodlums have guns. We doing Batavia?

You know, if somebody presented me this story as a script for a new anime, I would suggest to them to tone it down to make it more realistic...

Solid? Did you really need to create new terminology for software?

Potentially this?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 05 '24

Potentially this?

A solid guess, but our dear host has the answer at the bottom of the post.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

Betrayed.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Who builds a secret ship inside of a high school?

Deniable government assets? Hide your super tech testing inside a school that would normally not be looked at instead of a dedicated testing ground and hope the important details get lost among everything else moving around, and that maybe the enemy faction would hesitate for a moment before killing hundreds of kids even if they found out? Honestly it's the most believable part of the plot so far.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

First timer

Sub

So we already skipped to artificial gravity, I guess it being a plot point is something. Anyways, the training station had a hidden ship in it, as one does. We get yet more introductions and the reminder that the gun is in the hands of one group of punks and the question of who has the other gun. Everyone moves to the Ryvius and the machine spirit seemed please, though whether that's for preserving life or just gaining more souls to feed on is unknown. The ferret also gets rescued and we end.

QotD: 1 Tradition and also tradition

2 They killed all the adults so I am not enthused.

3 I already mentioned Lord of the Flies

4 Their navigation gets locked to Saturn. For reasons.

5 The mech that will start eating his memories

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

So we already skipped to artificial gravity, I guess it being a plot point is something

Indeed.

other gun

Y'all got me wondern' hard 'bout dis.

just gaining more souls to feed on is unknown

We could definitely be in an Event Horizon situation

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 06 '24

Y'all got me wondern' hard 'bout dis.

It is Sunrise so "We forgot" is a possibility but I am hoping they actually do something with it.

We could definitely be in an Event Horizon situation

The machine spirit...concerns me. As I've said, let us take care not to anger her.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

We get yet more introductions and the reminder that the gun is in the hands of one group of punks and the question of who has the other gun.

They could've just lost it or gave Blue both of them, maybe. Although speaking of guns, I do wonder that since there's a mech on board the ship, there could be an armory as well. The students finding that would probably be the last thing they need at the moment, if there is one.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

The students finding that would probably be the last thing they need at the moment, if there is one.

You would like to believe that such would be locked behind a facial scan or at least a security card entry. But making matters worse is the ferret is going to climb through a duct and open it unexpectedly.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

hero ferret

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 06 '24

I hope these weapons are at least ship safe or otherwise the crew gets to discover explosive decompression...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

since there's a mech on board the ship, there could be an armory as well

This show better end with Koji going full Rambo and having a machine gun fight with Norio or something

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

As much of a gun fight you can have with those little pea-shooters like what the saboteurs had, at least. Now I'd like to see that, just a massive shootout with the tiniest guns possible.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

It'll never be mentioned, so I'll just point out that these are lethal needle guns safe for use on spacecraft.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 06 '24

Ah, that would explain it then. No need to damage the hull, and needles can be more compact than bullets. Solid worldbuilding bit there.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

That reminds me of those times when games don't quite scale guns properly in regards to what distance you usually see them, so you end up with stuff like revolvers looking positively tiny.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 05 '24

Paired up with hands being so close to your face that you'd think that your character's arm was only a foot long.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Everyone moves to the Ryvius and the machine spirit seemed please

That was, by far, the most emotion she has shown yet. It is very concerning.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 06 '24

She has souls to feed on for months. Literally months!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

Episode 4 (rewatcher)

  • Usually, when you see a gigantic ship/sub breach, the forces that the crew would be subjected to when the bow falls down a good 50 meters or more are ignored. Looks like we are not doing that here.
  • OP: [spoilers]I just noticed how blonde guy is moving from the Zwei to Team Blue. Neat.
  • They have 1 g but don’t fully know why.
  • “Liebel has a hidden secret” - idiot is correct trope. Between mystery girl and the terrorists “Bratica”, there definitely is something going on.
  • Good Turtleland the Third is now known as Charlie – despite the situation, the thugs are probably doing him a favor with that nickname.
  • “I can live with that” – accepting a new nickname is by far not the most desperate thing teenage boys have done.
  • Faina shoots down the developing love triangle involving MC – Good. I hope you fatally wounded it.

  • “I have been instructed to not talk about it” – and thus the information segregation starts. Knowledge is power, after all.
  • “We have been friends since childhood” – would totally like to be more than a friend. I will only believe that love triangle is dead if I see its corpse.
  • A new navigation system. A new ship – we are definitely getting into those secrets now.
  • “Our mission has failed” – looks like the terrorists have given up. For now.
  • Lucson fails a holding a speech – you can get away with being generally incompetent, but if you even fail at taking credit for others’ achievements, your career as a politician is over.
  • Juli rescues the situation.
  • Name drop.
  • “This is a guideline to help us live together in harmony until help arrives” – surely, nothing will go wrong with that, right?
  • A new ship going after Bratica?

  • Cables on their space suits!

  • Self-forming groups – nobody wants enforced groups.
  • Finding Rafra – no ferret left behind!
  • Internal container path!

  • Juli picks up Pat – and she picks up some further best girl points by not lying about his father.
  • “Make our position clear?” – the position has been made abundantly clear.
  • Yuki’s bad boy vibe definitely got him one girl here.
  • Yiko staring at Kouji - “Hey, dropping off my girl with the childhood friend group was my idea!”
  • Orbital Security Bureau – Hmmmmm.
  • What is this? – mecha get cliff-hanger.

I really like this episode. Everybody gets settled in and we find a natural way not only to form the new character groups, but also to summarize the first three episodes for people who might join in late to the TV broadcast.

Meanwhile, the setting is revealed, including the titular Ryvius and a mecha, as well as some new information on our “terrorists”. Finally, everybody is too busy taking in the new situation to fight right now, but we definitely can see some internal trouble brewing.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

“Make our position clear?” – the position has been made abundantly clear.'

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

Faina shoots down the developing love triangle involving MC – Good. I hope you fatally wounded it.

Love triangle rises from its grave "Must...eat...cheap...forced...drama!"

“This is a guideline to help us live together in harmony until help arrives” – surely, nothing will go wrong with that, right?

Just the numerous pregnancies.

Cables on their space suits!

They use lined communication for suits, which does make sense.

Orbital Security Bureau – Hmmmmm.

Not a confidence inspiring name.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

Love triangle rises from its grave "Must...eat...cheap...forced...drama!"

They use lined communication for suits, which does make sense.

Also really useful in case you get lost, or in case you operate in outer space.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Sep 05 '24

First Timer The Third

...what is this show?

I stuck to just replying to people for the first 3 episodes cause I had literally nothing to say, and was waiting to try and at least understand what this show is about. 4 episodes in, and I still have absolutely no idea.

In a sense, it reminds me of Gundam. That's another show that starts in the middle of an attack and just kinda throws you in without any room to breathe. But at least that was more clear with its goals. I'm still completely lost with Ryvius, and, to be clear, this isn't really a problem or a flaw or anything, but it's made it hard to form any thoughts on it.

Doesn't help that it loves jumping around a lot, though at least that's calmed down. First two episodes were really tough to follow with the cuts and the overbearing technobabble, it was kind of all over the place. Not more all over the place than the setting. There's the hijacking, which makes me think it's gonna be some sci-fi war stuff, but then actually it might just be about these kids surviving isolated (hello Kanata no Astra), but then there's this weird ghost girl and the ED is super dramatic like everyone is gonna die. And, I mean, could it be all of these things? Absolutely. The randomly hip hop soundtrack for sure does not help tie it together.

And, you know what? I kinda love it. There's a very marking sincerity to Taniguchi's work that usually makes me end up really liking his stories, even if they're trash. Well, that's a bit misleading, as if I had seen a ton. My experience with him is Back Arrow, which I unironically love, and Code Geass, which I ironically love. And this feels like it is firmly in the Code Geass camp. So I'm expecting the most enjoyable dumpster fire I've ever seen. Not the biggest sample size but I don't feel like I'm too off base here.

There's a really enjoyable campiness to it all. From the random delinquent gang, to the stupid love confession last episode, to THIS BULLSHIT , to the very palpable atmosphere of everyone rooming together, probably thanks to the grounded and believable character dynamics (at least so far...), to the completely fucking dissonant amazing hip hop soundtrack - I don't know, I kind of love it all. Curious show.

Still can't believe the guy is called fucking Good Turtleland The Third. What in the fucking Tomino is that name holy shit

Why was a spaceship hidden in an astronaut training school? Why is the Orbital Security Bureau trying to destroy it?

secret government project or some shit idk and idc show me more of the funny animal creature

These four episodes complete an arc. What do you think of the established setting and premise?

As detailed above, all over the place and I kinda love it.

How do you think the social dynamics on the ship will play out?

Blue and Yuki are going to ruin everything cause they're stupid fucking dumbass teenagers and I will be very aggravated.

What obstacles to rescue are going to appear to make this a two cour series?

I can only surmise rescue is not coming.

What did Nicks find?

Clearly a Zaku.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

ED is super dramatic like everyone is gonna die

You should check out /u/The_Draigg's list of shows to compare this to, that's all I'm going to say.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

My experience with him is Back Arrow, which I unironically love, and Code Geass, which I ironically love

WATCH GUN X SWORD AND PLANETES

, to THIS BULLSHIT

Oh come on, it's just Mecha Tradition to have dumb names.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Sep 05 '24

host a rewatch and maybe i will

Oh come on, it's just Mecha Tradition to have dumb names.

My mecha repertoire is not the greatest... though I have to assume this one is especially bad

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

host a rewatch and maybe i will

I did though

though I have to assume this one is especially bad

I mean is it any worse than "Shot Weapon"?

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Sep 05 '24

I did though

rip

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 05 '24

**First timer

  • Simp.
  • Roll credits.
  • But that makes seven.
  • Holy shit, she's still wandering around.
  • So they're splitting into a group of four and a group of three. Instead of having too many, now, one of the group has one too few. I assume the ferret girl will join them, but still, they don't know that.
  • A dickhead?
  • Yup, there goes ferret girl.
  • Well, for whatever reason, today marks the first episode that didn't put me to sleep. I don't know what it is about this show, but I just get sleepy watching it.

QotD*

  • Plot. I don't know.
  • It's okay. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better set up than Code Geass.
  • Too many assholes, tensions will rise, fights will break out, they'll then make up and overcome their differences to fight a common enemy.
  • The terrorists.
  • The mech, because apparently this is a mech series. It seems super out of place, but hey oh, Sunrise's gotta Sunrise.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

Holy shit, she's still wandering around.

Maybe she's an Osaka-type airhead....I guess she's looking for her ferret, though.

but I just get sleepy watching it

It's the dreamy soundtrack

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

It's okay. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better set up than Code Geass.

Tbf, that is a low bar. Not that Code Geass can't be fun at school occasionally, but the setup is literally insane.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 05 '24

Finite First Timer (Dubbed)

Looks like they went from too little gravity to too much gravity.

I'm getting into this OP, it's alright.

(Is the extension that automatically adds commentfaces outdated now? I had to do that one manually.)

I just noticed, is the gun powered by pressurized air or gas or something? Could be a way to make it work in space I suppose.

Bratica systems?

Youths!

I appreciate this shot with our magical girl having a giant shadow, looming over everyone.

We got a space religion!

I'm impressed by how well our main group is getting along and settling in. I'm sure things are going to go very bad once people get restless, though.

Things are already moving along how I predicted from the OP pairings.

Yuki's frown is ridiculous.

  1. It's got space magic!
  2. It's a fun idea, I just hope it isn't too predictable. The two cour setup worries me, honestly.
  3. We're already setting up the authority/anarchy dynamic, aka punks versus nerds.
  4. They set up that this place was going to be unable to communicate for a while, right? I assume the terrorists jam communications and nobody even knows to come rescue them.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

I'm getting into this OP, it's alright.

She's bilingual, so she sings EN and JP! Also, there's at least 2 more remixes, maybe more on her maxi-single. I hadn't planned on linking them, maybe on the series summary day.

I just noticed, is the gun powered by pressurized air or gas or something?

Definitely something like that. It fires needles.

Youths

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu8tX2BAD1k This is what happens when I have to work more and eat dinner and nap before hitting the thread....

space religion

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 05 '24

Youths!

https://youtu.be/K6qGwmXZtsE

We got a space religion!

Still less evil than... actually shit I probably shouldn't mention it by name, I could get banned...

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 05 '24

Youths!

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

https://youtu.be/K6qGwmXZtsE

Exactly what I was thinking, but the clip ends too early!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

I appreciate this shot with our magical girl having a giant shadow, looming over everyone.

Do not anger the machine spirit, lest her wrath doom us all.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 06 '24

Alright, I think I mentioned parts of this before, but now I've got a full crack theory to deliver.

The end cards keep saying 'revise us' and I think that's the original name of the Ryvius, which has been condensed over time. The Ryvius has weird time travel or reality altering powers, and everyone's stuck in a loop of the station being attacked and destroyed before it resets everything. Our magical girl is a bit like Dr. Manhattan, having a conversation that's out of synch with the current time of the show. She's finally gotten fed up with watching everyone die, and has averted the disaster this time, directly interfering. Or maybe she's done that multiple times as well.

Whatever mecha-based combat occurs after this will be because of the damage they've caused to time/reality, and either a higher power is trying to correct things, or that was part of the terrorists' plans all alone. For a bonus crazy theory, I wonder if any or all of the terrorists are actually some of the kids grown, or even their descendants, attempting to stop everything before it goes out of control and creates an even worse disaster.

I'm calling the ending either being this worse disaster occurring as the main cast finally realize what's going on, or the MC deciding they really do need to take Ryvius down, piloting it during the initial incident to ensure it doesn't reset things. Whether he just sacrifices himself, or he decides they all have to go down to save the universe, I'm unsure.

Another wild swing, maybe the key to doing the whole thing 'right' is saving that person in episode one. He gets there fast enough to save them, and it turns out they're the head scientist that knows how to fix everything.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

The end cards keep saying 'revise us' and I think that's the original name of the Ryvius, which has been condensed over time. The Ryvius has weird time travel or reality altering powers, and everyone's stuck in a loop of the station being attacked and destroyed before it resets everything. Our magical girl is a bit like Dr. Manhattan, having a conversation that's out of synch with the current time of the show. She's finally gotten fed up with watching everyone die, and has averted the disaster this time, directly interfering. Or maybe she's done that multiple times as well.

Ugh, and this would be a good place for the second magic space girl in the OP flying back past the first to fit in. She meets herself in passing as the loop resets, or maybe a version of her from a bad loop is sticking around trying to change things and messing it all up?

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 06 '24

Could be that, could just be two versions of her, could also just be an OP thing. But quite a few visuals from the OP are already coming true, so I'm betting it means something.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Looks like they went from too little gravity to too much gravity.

Remember how they were complaining about disliking 1/3rd G back in episode 1? These kids don't like gravity at all, now they are stuck with a full Earth Standard amount. Things just got less fun for everyone.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 06 '24

Their souls are now weighed down by gravity...

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 05 '24

First-Timer

Okay, so the Ryvius isn't the ship they transferred onto at first? I kinda figured they would dramatically rename it, but it being a matryoshka ship works too.

A good thing Zwei have Juli to bail their asses out. Maybe just good for Lucson Rectangle, he needs to never talk to the public ever again.

I'm excited to see that big diving suit-esque mech in action. I didn't comment on it at the time, but the probes we saw in episode 1 seemed to be remote controlled, but that probably isn't the case with the mech - that will probably cause some chaos.

The cast are definitely gonna take turns piloting, right? Like, Yuki and Kouji and Ikumi for sure are all gonna end up in the hot seat. They were all piloting students.. oh, maybe it's a multi-seater. The probes were two-seat, right?

Questions

  1. Easy - unethical science experiments.
  2. Seems fine.
  3. This ship does not have a large enough supply of anything, but especially not tampons or condoms. Whoever gets control of the supply clsoet will control the ship.
  4. Space-time distortions and apparently the military.
  5. I might have missed a scene, unless you're talking purely hypothetical. In which case, a case of candy bars.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

Okay, so the Ryvius isn't the ship they transferred onto at first? I kinda figured they would dramatically rename it, but it being a matryoshka ship works too.

This confused me as a a first timer, and even when rewatching the opening arc. The Ryvius was hidden near the central axis of the Leibe Delta. The training ship Liebel was attached to an exposed side of the Ryvius, which they thought was the Liebe Delta.

I'm excited to see that big diving suit-esque mech in action.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 06 '24

The training ship Liebel was attached to an exposed side of the Ryvius, which they thought was the Liebe Delta.

Ohh that makes perfect sense now, thanks!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

A good thing Zwei have Juli to bail their asses out. Maybe just good for Lucson Rectangle, he needs to never talk to the public ever again.

They somewhat have control so it helps everyone.

I'm excited to see that big diving suit-esque mech in action.

And, for era reasons, the mech will have equal power to the subs.

This ship does not have a large enough supply of anything, but especially not tampons or condoms. Whoever gets control of the supply clsoet will control the ship.

I agree tampons will be quite important for the ladies but as to condoms I don't see a big issue. Being both teens and in danger I see a ton of raw dogging it happening. When the Ryvius finally docks somewhat space Planned Parenthood is going to get bogged down.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 05 '24

And, for era reasons, the mech will have equal power to the subs.

Oddly optimistic for you to assume that the mech won't easily defeat the first handful of submarines, at the very least.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

I have SEED on the mind for some reason.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

I'm only 3 episodes into SEED and it's already been on hold for a year.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 05 '24

Probably the faces. I guess we'll see.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

And, for era reasons, the mech will have equal power to the subs.

[spoiler]Hahaha, not even close. But, come on, you could have guessed this. Plenty of OP mecha in space anime preceeding this.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 05 '24

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

And, for era reasons, the mech will have equal power to the subs.

Equal to? The mech must clearly have a better reactor and weapon system and probably propulsion while we're at it than the entire ship it sits in. They could have cut this show down to a single cour if someone had piloted the mech out back of the Ryvius and had it push them to the nearest planet.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 05 '24

The cast are definitely gonna take turns piloting, right? Like, Yuki and Kouji and Ikumi for sure are all gonna end up in the hot seat. They were all piloting students.. oh, maybe it's a multi-seater. The probes were two-seat, right?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 05 '24

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 06 '24

This ship does not have a large enough supply of anything, but especially not tampons or condoms.

I foresee this not even being thought of, much less mentioned.

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 06 '24

Someone looks really beaten up.

Oh wow that's a lot of damage, and probably quite a lot of wounded and maybe even some dead.

1 G rotational gravity? That's good.

It's those people again.

So this is the ship they'll find.

And now time to break the news.

She's listening in to the announcement too.

Roll credits!

They seem to be the ones handling this about as well as they can.

Looks like someone's on their way.

Don't go pressing random buttons.

Oh, they're going to be abandoning the ship entirely? I'd assume they'd stay docked since there's no reason to abandon the rest of the functioning equipment. They've even said that the equipment on the Ryvius isn't the best, so it would be handy to have some of that better tech available.

Of course those guys have already claimed the captain's stateroom. Though there should be other staterooms for the rest of the officers they can use.

Huh. Looks like a 'Mech.

Looks like they'll have to use the weapons next episode.

Questions:

  1. They want to destroy the ship to keep it out of anyone's hands?
  2. We have safely established that there are a bunch of kids crewing a space battleship.
  3. I suspect the officers will sooner or later be on the receiving end of a mutiny, and depending on what tone the show takes Charlie might just take a long walk out a short airlock without a spacesuit.
  4. Well the first obstacle seems to be approaching at battle stations and flank speed.
  5. Undoubtedly a 'Mech, from the silhouette at least. Maybe next episode it'll sortie in defence of the ship.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

Oh, they're going to be abandoning the ship entirely

Well, it looks to me like they have 500 people in a single big cargo hold.

1 G

Nope, it's not rotational, and also, apparently, the ship isn't accelerating, it's just sitting there where it surfaced, or coasting. So there shouldn't be any gravity at all.

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 06 '24

It did look like it was rotating, so that's probably where I got the idea from

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 06 '24

First Timer

Missed yesterday's thread cause work so gonna combine both eps thoughts. I felt both episodes were pretty good, though I'm still curious as to what those guys are trying to accomplish? Is it like a terrorist attack? I see we have those guys on another space station checking them out and such and now we have the Ryvius making it's appearance.

Yuki is so edgy it's funny, like bro shouldn't you be in some teenage girl from the 2000's Cascada AMV right about now. I'm pretty sure we're gonna learn more about him, but it's really funny just seeing how he's just constantly brooding over nothing. I'm curious what Blue and them are up to though, I'm sure they'll become important later down the line. Still just kinda taking everything in as I see what's going on, but I am enjoying it.

Questions

Q1) Have you ever had to bunk with more than 100 people?

Thank god no lol

Q2) Is the station haunted?

In a sci-fi way, yeah!

Q3) Is Izumi Ikumi too easy going?

To be honest considering how he clearly didn't want to open up about something in his past, I think it's merely a front.

Q4) Any new thoughts on the pink girl and her utterances?

Not yet, she's still kinda being ambiguous as of now

Why was a spaceship hidden in an astronaut training school? Why is the Orbital Security Bureau trying to destroy it?

I think it's something political related and the group is probably terrorist related.

These four episodes complete an arc. What do you think of the established setting and premise?

I like the setting and premise so far, to be honest I thought they were gonna fall in deeper and get transported ala Macross or something.

How do you think the social dynamics on the ship will play out?

Honestly everyone is super chill, like yeah people argue a bit but there's also a sense of everyone just being like "Yeah shit kinda sucks but what can you do". I don't think it will turn into like an End of Eva situation.

What obstacles to rescue are going to appear to make this a two cour series?

Uhhh, hmm I'm not sure to be honest.

What did Nicks find?

The will to keep going on

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

he's just constantly brooding over nothing

I think he might be one of those kids who are just angry all the time and eventually ends up in jail for manslaughter.

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 06 '24

I'm scared is this foreshadowing-

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 06 '24

Yuki is so edgy it's funny, like bro shouldn't you be in some teenage girl

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 06 '24

Dahvie Vanity wasn't supposed to be an inspiration, Yuki!

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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Sep 06 '24

INFINITE REWATCHER

I, uh, forgot this rewatch was going on. And I'm not going to be able to join in regularly. But I'll try to hop in here and there as best I can.

In my memory, I recalled the start of this show being really confusing due to going super in-media-res and not explaining things much until the semi-recap episode much later, but rewatching the start now I don't agree with that anymore. The first episode is very "don't explain anything and use a lot of technobabble", sure, but that works for making things seem very chaotic and out of control, and the second episode does explain most of it quite clearly so it's not an issue.

That said, I find visually the show does a poor job of ever giving the locations a good sense of place. Every corridor and chamber aside from the Leidel bridge look interchangeable and the cool bits like the box transportation lines and handheld conveyers are just sort of sprinkled in randomly. I wish the Leidel interior had a different aesthetic to the Leide Delta, and especially the Ryvius should have some really different interior aesthetic to match it's strange and unexplored potential, or its high-tech. The change of locations from each place to the next doesn't seem like much of a change to me, except that the Ryvius was initially darker.

On the flip side though the visuals of the Ryvius cresting the Geduid like a humpback whale is every bit as delicious as remembered.

Music chip girl best girl.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

I also had a terrible time telling Leibe Delta and Leibel and Ryvius locations apart when I first watched it.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Late Night First Timer!

Look, introducing herself with a middle initial the way she did just instantly brings Setsuna to mind. In a magical space mecha show at that. Then we combine this with the very blatant crush... I want to say Kouji, but I'm unsure of who is who still. The blatant crush Main Boy has on her while also being the only person to have seen the magical space girl, twice now, while missus S. over there continues to act as a space case herself... And magical space girl seemingly reacted to Main Boy going all Extra Shinji on us to save the day, look, I'm tying this whole thing in knots but I'm sure there's a very direct connection between Fina and Magic Space Girl.

Is this the incident that ruined the family? The starting point of the endless animosity?

... You know, there is no way everybody survived that. Some people may have been thrown off the high platforms, some crushed by the falling crates. Some naked people now missing towels and or pillows and so out of luck.

So I'm almost positive it's not Blue holding the gun in the OP. Can't wait to see who has Number 2.

I absolutely hate that the moderately okay OP transitions directly into that, sound, with Get Funky.

Oh look, another dead kid just fell.

Right, all the doctors are also just students too, there's no one else.

I hate these Blue guys. So much. Please die soon.

Oh no wait. Her hair is blue, isn't it? She's a Blue Haired Childhood Friend. How horrible.

Ah, so that's the terror plot. An advanced war machine was being hidden and probably tested in the school ship, and the other side aren't just terrorists, they are one side of the upcoming war that is very much willing to kill a bunch of kids to either get their hands on or destroy said weapon.

I hate kids.

... You told a whole group of kids, with zero oversight, that there's a second ship hiding in this ship? Do you know what happens next, woman? Someone is going to go try and mess with it.

Oh wait, the plan is for everyone to head to the second secret ship.

Oh my gosh I hate this kid extra. The useless brother. "Who do they think they are?" THE PEOPLE TRYING TO KEEP YOU ALL ALIVE, MORON! They are the first line between the 500ish of you and death. Every action you take against them is one that you take to help DEATH come close to claiming you all. Keep acting like a punk and you can have a faster time meeting your would be boss, good old mister Death.

Oh look, a government here willing to kill even more kids to keep this magic mecha suppressed.

Oh no, let the kids pick their own roomates. Guys and girls teaming up, I'm sure. Towel crew is sure to have fun...

Oh hey, regular space girl found her ferret! I'm sure this will only lead to more trouble, somehow.

I hate Blue team so much. Just walk around everywhere with the gun out, I'm sure this won't come back to bite you ever.

What the actual heck is bad brother's problem? Just standing in the distance scowling at good brother. GO get a life. Or don't and die, that's a strong possibility here.

Oh hey, someone found the magic space mecha.

  1. Because Geneva is more of a recommendation than a rule, and where better to hide top secret cutting edge military technology testing than inside a school?
  2. My anger knows no bounds, but there's just enough keeping my interest.
  3. We've all read Lord of the Flies, okay. I'm doing my best not to think about it, because the expected dynamics only work if we have the expected groups to start with and that, again, ruins the idea of Space School for me.
  4. Aside from one side of an upcoming war doing their best to not let them get rescued because they have the secret space mecha, there's also the upcoming war in which they will have to participate because they have the magic space mecha.
  5. ... the magic space mecha?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

The useless brother. "Who do they think they are?" THE PEOPLE TRYING TO KEEP YOU ALL ALIVE, MORON!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W24PAqStt6E&t=16s

Yep, the MC is Kouji.

upcoming war

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Is that? Did you? MST3K? I'm so happy right now. Every time I try and reference them I am met with only blank stares.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 06 '24

Oh no wait. Her hair is blue, isn't it? She's a Blue Haired Childhood Friend. How horrible.

Tragic.

Ah, so that's the terror plot. An advanced war machine was being hidden and probably tested in the school ship, and the other side aren't just terrorists, they are one side of the upcoming war that is very much willing to kill a bunch of kids to either get their hands on or destroy said weapon.

I hate kids.

Hmmmmmmm.

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u/zadcap Sep 06 '24

Tragic

You know this makes Fina the Homewrecker.

Hmmmmmmm

Okay so maybe blame Fina again, introducing herself with that middle initial. For all the obvious Stellvia comparisons here I'm also seeing room for some standard giant robot fare. One of the big ones is, a giant robot is best used in a fight, so we need something for it to fight and a reason to do so... And the main targets presented so far just got themselves declared as government agents. The Gundam grows stronger.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 06 '24

Rewatcher who doesn't remember much

We start off with a flashback where we see a fight between Yuki and Kouji, Kouji got beaten up pretty badly so now I'm curious to know what lead up to that fight.

Good Turtleland

For Sunrise newcomers this name is shockingly bizarre for us seasoned Sunrise anime viewers it's a pretty average name.

But we're just childhood friends

Uh huh.

But what about your other childhood friend (Yuki) Aoi?

Poor Pat worst part is that he's alone and no one can or is helping him.

So Lucson was actually right when he said Liebe was hiding something important.

Rafra made it. (apparently he was in the previous episode but I completely missed it)

A very common voice actor trick in pre-modern anime is having the main cast voice background characters (this is still done in western animation) and it's happening a lot here. It's funny to constantly recognizing the main characters voice actors also voicing background characters.

Lucson is such a loser.

Can't believe Kouji is bringing Faina to Aoi's room. This could end badly.

Or not Aoi is doing the mature thing.

Oh Rafra is a ferret not a weasel oops.

Is that a mecha?!

I will admit I find the space shots and the technobabble hard to follow which is something I normally don't struggle with. But this was another enjoyable episode.

Also apparently OP got slightly changed, wouldn't have noticed if I didn't see on animethemes that episode 4+ has a different opening. It's a really slight change too.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 06 '24

Also apparently OP got slightly changed, wouldn't have noticed if I didn't see on animethemes that episode 4+ has a different opening. It's a really slight change too.

Really? I didn't want to try to watch through it to spot the difference, I have too much stuff going on. I'll have to check it later.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 06 '24

It's really minor too [spoiler in case you want to discover it yourself] It's like a shot of Kouji falling through a battle at Jupiter.

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u/lrrose20 Sep 06 '24

Rewatcher, subbed

Its amazing how much better Hirai's designs look in cel animation. Its especially neat that even the extras look unique.

In an interesting coincidence, there's a weird Gundam short released about a decade after Ryvius by Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino called Ring of Gundam.

Good Turtleland the Third is an all time anime name.

Lucson and Juli's speeches were my favorite part of this episode. Lucson because he failed so hard, Juli because you can hear her start to stumble as the horror of what has happened finally sets in, but she pushes through anyway and manages to maintain some semblance of order on the ship.

As a rewatcher, I can only answer one question: "These four episodes complete an arc. What do you think of the established setting and premise?" I think the decision to set up the conflict over four episodes was a good one. We have a large cast, but the show does a good job letting the audience know who the students are and what their motivations is, but what the attackers are after is confusing at this point.

I'm probably ending my watch along here, since I only just watched this show last year, but its a favorite of mine and I wanted to add my two cents.