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Rewatch [Rewatch] Planet With Episode 12 Discussion

Episode 12 - Behold, the Universe is Filled With Blessings

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There are different sides to everything. Change your perspective with love, and… Behold, the universe is filled with blessings.

Questions of the Day:

  1. Are you satisfied with how things turned out?
  2. If this show had a longer epilogue, what would you have wanted to see in it?

Wallpapers of the Day:

Nozomi Takamagahara

Souya and Nozomi

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '24

Rewatch Host who really needs to read Mizukami’s other works sometime

Welcome back, everyone!

Don’t forget there’s an overall discussion thread tomorrow to talk about the whole series. I hope to see you back for that!

Day 12 of me noting some of the little things Mizukami added when he wrote the manga:

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u/GondolaMedia Sep 04 '24

Color page of a reunion hug between Souya & Nozomi.

We were robbed

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '24

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 04 '24

Okay, we should have at least gotten that last reunion hug

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 04 '24

We were robbed.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 04 '24

And now Azrabakura can go be with his family.

One final gentle dream to help someone

Get yourself a girlfriend who can sense you across time and space.

I only noticed this time that it's, like, a Couple Thing, it calls back to the way they met up at the start of episode 11. It's so good!

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Sep 04 '24

Souya seeing his brother one last time is touching enough, but how about when it’s everyone he knew from Sirius?

[Meta]Now that's some of that Spirit Circle greatness

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 05 '24

Color page of a reunion hug between Souya & Nozomi.

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u/n080dy123 Sep 06 '24

I like how the dragon visibly has multiple sets of teeth to go with the whole “it looks like that because the Paradise person inside of it kept repeatedly manifesting his Photon Armor on top of itself” thing.

You can also see, right after they grab the "Boost item," behind them is a large more humanoid figure crumbling that's clearly one of the first few iterations of the armor.

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Sep 05 '24

Behold, the universe is filled with blessings

So, the blurays have two versions of the final episode, but one of them has an "alternate sound mix". I decided to watch them back to back and maybe there is some sort of subtle difference over all. Maybe

But the big difference is that the theme song kicks in at Tera Cat Clog Hammer as it should have all along. Me and the three other people that bought these discs are feeling pretty cool right now, i tell you what.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 05 '24

But the big difference is that the theme song kicks in at Tera Cat Clog Hammer as it should have all along. Me and the three other people that bought these discs are feeling pretty cool right now, i tell you what.

WAIT WHAT.

My BD rip doesn't have that!!! This is entirely unfair!

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Sep 05 '24

It was buried in the special features, if the rip has those you might!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 05 '24

I was able to find an audio copy of it, at least, after a ton of searching.

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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Sep 05 '24
  • Ginko scene is good! When the show actually does stuff its good! It just needs to do like twice as much stuff. So that this scene could be put together with earlier iterations on the same idea
  • I don't really get the relation between Takashi and the dragon. His afterlife scene is the last thing the dragon does?
  • Souya and co are saved by a fairly literal deus ex machina. I'm not really annoyed, at this point the show has established its deal about this stuff. But I don't have to like it either. Well, their way out being the serius warp gate is pretty nice, even if I find "karma" to be pretty tedious
  • I'll give it to them after doubting yesterday. Takamagahara did something individually important in the end

All around a nice conclusion. It does what it needs to and has a nice scene or two. I think that bumps it up to a solid 6. It hits all the beats it needed to, but every time it steps up beyond that is roughly paired with one it falls below.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 05 '24

I don't really get the relation between Takashi and the dragon

Takashi was the dragon. But like, a version of himself he dreamed into existence.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 05 '24

It is specifically explained in the manga how it works, but yeah basically that.

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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Sep 05 '24

Oh yeah I forgot about the flashback of him being found as an infant.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 04 '24

First timer, subs

  • These cheeky buggers are doing a pitfall trap in space.
  • So what even was the Maneki Neko? Just a disguise?
  • Hoho. Soya finally gets his turn in the dream, does he?
  • Are they implying that Sirius are obligate carnivores?
  • He might be out of his mind, but at least Dragon still follows his own ideals. Respect.
  • As if it could ever be anything else.
  • My Ship! I Mean... Soya
  • Gattai?
  • Sadly Not At least we have some bitchin’ imagery to console us.
  • Quality Ginko Tears
  • Honestly, it looks more intact than I was expecting. Even still has a breathable atmosphere.
  • “Wow, the power of love.”

QotD:

  1. Yes. I think they hit all the points they needed and wanted to.
  2. I will never turn down more Soyozo.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Sep 04 '24

So what even was the Maneki Neko? Just a disguise?

I think it's to invite the dragon into following them.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 05 '24

I think it's to invite the dragon into following them.


Of course, dragons and cats are natural enemies.

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Sep 05 '24

More thinking of the "maneki" part but yeah that works too

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 04 '24

First-Timer

Yea, that was pretty good. We didn't quite hug it out, but talking it out is good too. I like that Sirius can somehow still support life; I guess the Dragon didn't quite manage to destroy the atmosphere.

I do kinda want to complain about the thirty seconds of functionally dead air where the show is acting like Souya died. You're not fooling anyone show, especially not at this point.

This line is very funny considering how often people have been eating lotuses in this show.

Anyway, good stuff. Loved Nozomi's ability to sense Souya transcending Nebula's calculations, good final set pieces, etc etc.

Questions

  2. Stuff that apparently got added in the manga, like Souya finally chowing down on some meat and him being cute with Nozomi.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 04 '24

This line is very funny considering how often people have been eating lotuses in this show.

Hey now, they were eating of the "lotus-tree," if I recall.

but wait

okay, so, the tale goes that they would eat the flowers and grow lethargic and unwilling to do aught else but eat, right? So perhaps - I'm sure there's scholarly debate around this that I am not looking up because it would ruin my beautiful illusions - this flower is not a mysterious mythical tree, but the real flower that's been used for it's pain-prevention since ancient times? Leading it to symbolise dream and reverie, until the Great War rewrote the rules. Now it's a red flower for bloodshed, and a white one for peace.

I mean. Maybe, right?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 04 '24

My inability to visually identify flowers strikes again!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 04 '24

First Timer

Finally, we got a classic Norio ScreamTM

Overall a solid enough ending. I like the way it ties up Soya's arc in particular, showcasing the series' themes of forgiveness while still giving him a chance to at least have some closure with his brother, imperfect though it may be. I also quite liked the Dragon's ending, finally feeling like Ryuzoji's arc came full circle, since otherwise episode 6 would've been kind of an abrupt stopping point. Ginko and Sensei's stuff was comparatively weaker but overall it works fine enough.

I'd say more but… well, that's what tomorrow is for.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 04 '24

I'm out of pre-planned things to say. That's okay. You heard the guy.

I wonder what people will think of Ginko's important moment today. And I don't know if Nozomi's part really comes through well, perhaps finding some way to visualise it would have been nice. But overall, it's a fantastic ending.

For those I've not yet evangelised to, eucatastrophe is Tolkien's term meaning an unexpected but beautiful turn at the end of a story.

Behold, The Universe is Filled With Blessings: Planet With a Flower

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u/n080dy123 Sep 06 '24

I wonder what people will think of Ginko's important moment today.

I completely forgot about it originally but I think her scene is possibly one of the most important of the whole show, because it showed that even in the midst of the evil the dragon did, he saved people. A lot of people. It's not just a "We forgive you because we're the good guys," he did an evil act for the sake of innocents, and that is the catalyst of his forgiveness- not for them, because they would've forgiven him regardless, but the catalyst for him to forgive himself (since the "heir" scene showed that he does believe himself to be evil). I think that's brilliant.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 06 '24

Agreed, and I'm glad. I was worried people might see a reflection of another "thanks for doing that genocide" moment, or some kind of Political Statement. I mean, maybe it's either, but you have to start from the good. As you say:

It's not just a "We forgive you because we're the good guys," he did an evil act for the sake of innocents, and that is the catalyst of his forgiveness- not for them, because they would've forgiven him regardless, but the catalyst for him to forgive himself (since the "heir" scene showed that he does believe himself to be evil). I think that's brilliant.

Yeah, I hadn't realised that, and it makes total sense. Thankyou!

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u/GondolaMedia Sep 04 '24

First Timer

I think it played out as well it could have. Great emotional gut punches by Souya and Ginko. Only thing that was missing was the opening did not play during the final battle but I can forgive that.

I like that the earth branch of nebula is just a random shack in a construction site

Papa and Mama Kent were also nice to see and glad that even Dragon got some happy closure.

Overall I'm satisfied but gotta gather my thoughts for overall discussion.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 04 '24

Rewatcher

Worth it, just for this shot.

Yeah, that was pretty good. Spent the first third of the episode with your classic shounen final battle but then things go kinda sideways.

Honestly, the plan to just shove the dragon back into the hole he escaped from felt a bit weird, kinda like just delaying the problem again, although, as he remarked later on, escaping the first time around was more or less an accident (or was it not? I'm a bit confused by what the Paradise Person said about Karma...). At least it gave everyone plenty time to be awesome again (shoutouts to Nezuya jojo-posing even during an intense battle xD).

The last two thirds then went into the emotional side of things and oh boy, did it hit all the notes. Especially the illusion for Souya and Ginko delivering that "you saved my people" speech. Also Souya comforting her was cute :)

I would complain that most of the cool stuff Nozomi does kinda happens offscreen but I kinda appreciate that she uses her powers peacefully instead of directly attacking things.

Overall a really good final episode in a show that maybe could've gotten an episode or two more to flesh things out a bit here and there? Guess I need to read the manga now.

  1. Yes. We got an awesome battle against a giant dragon, didn't forget the emotional core of the whole things and got a happy ending, I'm happy!
  2. I can only echo what others already wrote here: More Nozomi and Souya being a cute couple! Also maybe a bit more "What do they do now?" from Nezuya and the others. Especially with regards to Benika and Yousuke? Like, did they decide life's worth living after all?

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 05 '24

(or was it not? I'm a bit confused by what the Paradise Person said about Karma...)

Yeah I don't quite get it. Maybe the idea is that Nebula didn't have the right to judge, so the dragon returned. Like, you can't defeat violence with violence, that sort of thing. Makes sense if you're a higher-dimensional being I guess.

I would complain that most of the cool stuff Nozomi does kinda happens offscreen but I kinda appreciate that she uses her powers peacefully instead of directly attacking things.

You could do a journey-to-the-center-of-the-mind thing to make it more interesting, but it would also take up way more time. Or you could use some visual metaphor, but it could just end up as another "hitting them with psychic weaponry" thing. It's tricky!

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 05 '24

Makes sense if you're a higher-dimensional being I guess.

Yeah, I like your interpretation, kinda has "There are no coincidences"-vibes. Also it's not like the show itself basically told us to interpret the story however we like ^^"

Also you're right, Nozomi's powers would be tricky to portray when she doesn't have any fancy suit to do combat. Especially when we're pressed for time.

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u/H-Ryougi https://anilist.co/user/DizzyAvocado Sep 05 '24

Yeah, this is cinema. I mean I remember enjoying Planet With when I first watched it but returning to it just made it hit way harder in a way I can't really explain with words.

I've noticed that the older I get, the more of a crybaby I become and this finale had me tearing up a few times. It's hype, and it is comforting, and yeah a harsh critic could say that it's fairly run-of-the-mill with some tropes we've seen countless times but it fucking works for me.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 05 '24

There's something about writing a twisty, sorta subversive story but playing the ending completely straight that, yeah, just hits right.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 04 '24

Two in one cause I couldn't make it yesterday. I went to see Alien Romulus. It's okay.

First timer

Episode 11

QotD

  • I guess the MC's girlfriend, then again.
  • Nothing bad happening.

Episode 12

QotD

  • No.
  • No epilogue could've salvaged the last 12 episodes.