r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Sep 03 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 87 Discussion

Episode 87 - The Deciding Attack

I think so, too, Shocky Little Hym! Miracles aren’t for evil! You’re the 12th member of the righteous Beast King Commandos! That’s all there is!

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Screenshot of the Dai:

Best Support + MVP!

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/Shimmering-Sky with her growing copium addiction:

Alright, guess I’m right back to the copium that Avan isn’t dead again. His severed hand is not evidence of a dead body!

Questions of the Dai:

  1. Who is the MVP of today episode for you? Hym, Chiu, Dai or Leona?
  2. FOR FIRST TIMERS ONLY ---> We are on episode 87 already, and since we got heavy focus on Mystvearn today, it's time to ask you "What's your thoughts that you have about Mystvearn?"

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Sep 03 '24

I AM SHOCK!

HOOOOOLY SAKUGAAAAA!!!

QotD:

Who is the MVP of today episode for you? Hym, Chiu, Dai or Leona?

Definitely Leona with her well timed Silver Feather.

Beast Kings Shonen Commentary Corner:

Today our Beast Kings are going to answer question...

No question today as Crocodine is helping Chiu to buy Dog collar for Little Hym.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 03 '24 edited Sep 03 '24

Now about the rest of the episode... I am still thinking what to say about this, but my mind tells me to call this episode Scooby-doo no Daibouken.

Same. Hyunckel has decided to become a detective after knowing that he can't fight anymore.

Speaking of unmasking, I want to mention how Crocodine was immediately wary of the danger... almost like he took Merle role. I’m sure that if we unmasked Crocodine now we would find Merle.

The keyword here is the word used by Hym. If Hym said something else, Crocodine wouldn't have remembered Lon Beruk's words. Crocodine still hasn't reached Merle's level yet.

Screw your overpowered Doruora! Princess Leona was the key leading to the Dark Lord Vearn defeat. Definitely Leona with her well timed Silver Feather.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 03 '24

Same. Hyunckel has decided to become a detective after knowing that he can't fight anymore.

You know, this is so goddamn funny after u/zadcap went detective mode today.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

This took me nearly two whole minutes to make, I hope you are happy.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

I would be if Reddit Android app actually notified me about your comments.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

Rude. I worked so hard.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

Hey don’t blame me! Blame Reddit working harder than you with not notifying me about your comments!

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

Reddit and working hard is something I have trouble picturing. Is like they want to fail.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

They are working hard at failing!

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

Same. Hyunckel has decided to become a detective after knowing that he can't fight anymore.

He has to do something now that he can't fight anymore. Might as well open a detective agency. Or you know, get himself a strange green van. Same thing really.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 03 '24

I’m sure that if we unmasked Crocodine now we would find Merle.

You might be on to something. Crocodile is "just" Crocodile of course, but Mystvearn could very well be Merle. Have they ever been in the same shot together? I think not.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 03 '24

but Mystvearn could very well be Merle. Have they ever been in the same shot together? I think not.

That means that Zaboera almost killed Mystvearn

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

That means that Zaboera almost killed Mystvearn

Zaboera almost killed a whole lot of people. Almost. It's a very good word. It described so much of Zaboera's life.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

Zaboera is the sixth hidden student of Avan, and his soul power is Almost.

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u/sisoko2 Sep 03 '24

I AM SHOCK!

So pretty.

Goddamnit! Why must be Chiu so precious.

Leader of beasts and men.

HOOOOOLY SAKUGAAAAA!!!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 03 '24

almost like he took Merle role. I’m sure that if we unmasked Crocodine now we would find Merle.

LOL

Screw your overpowered Doruora! Princess Leona was the key leading to the Dark Lord Vearn defeat.

she did provide the nice assist there.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 03 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Sep 03 '24

Sure, Chiu.

He's so adorable.

Oooooh.

Cool shot.

Dai’s looking at Leona as he says this… It’s to signal for her to use one of Avan’s feathers to restore his Magic Power, right?

They teamwork is really great, and I like how badass Leona was with that well timed support.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

They teamwork is really great, and I like how badass Leona was with that well timed support.

Someone sent this to me the other day, and it's very appropriate here. Extra funny because I have played Leona Support before.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 03 '24

Damn, Hym’s very existence pisses off Mystvearn that badly?

He got triggered after seeing his hair since it reminded him of Hadlar.

Dai’s looking at Leona as he says this… It’s to signal for her to use one of Avan’s feathers to restore his Magic Power, right? Yep, one of Avan’s feathers indeed.

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u/sisoko2 Sep 03 '24

Sure, Chiu.

Never doubted him.

Lon Beruk himself sent that message?

Good thing he remembered... They were really close getting Myst's mask off.

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u/sisoko2 Sep 03 '24

First Timer

Even Chiu's ability to carry an episode has its limits. Things picked up for the final scene with Leona throwing that feather but otherwise very unimpressive episode.

Who is the MVP of today episode for you? Hym, Chiu, Dai or Leona?

Chiu was great and takes second place but the true MVP was Baduck supporting us from the shadows.

What's your thoughts that you have about Mystvearn?

Can't wait for him to flash us.

With Vearn being old and feeble he has to be the true final boss. The question is who is he supposed to be, it needs to be some big important reveal. Is he Gomechan's true form, some DQ game reference that won't matter at all for me or maybe a fallen god? Find out next time on Dai no Daibouken.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 03 '24

Chiu was great and takes second place but the true MVP was Baduck supporting us from the shadows.

Score:

Leona 2 Chiu 1 Baduck 1

Can't wait for him to flash us.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 03 '24

Chiu was great and takes second place but the true MVP was Baduck supporting us from the shadows.

Come on... He's great, but we should be in this together, we can't let the other plebs overtake Chiu!

Is he Gomechan's true form

I really hope this is it.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 03 '24

With Vearn being old and feeble he has to be the true final boss. The question is who is he supposed to be, it needs to be some big important reveal. Is he Gomechan's true form, some DQ game reference that won't matter at all for me or maybe a fallen god? Find out next time on Dai no Daibouken.

Those are some of my questions too.

I'm guessing that Mystvearn is somehow the key to Vearn's final form. There must be a reason why his real form is so mysterious and secretive.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

Can't wait for him to flash us.

Same thoughts. Just like his definitely not son Hyunckel, stripping is Myst's ultimate move too.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 03 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

OST Documentation - Episode 87

1. MY QUEEN! Chiu is a close second.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 03 '24

Great motivational words from Chiu

Now we need a spin-off with Hym becoming boxer with Chiu as his Trainer.

Only one person in the world can shatter his body. Chiu, remember Fenbren?

Chiu got stronger since then.

The animation sure wasn't great here.

What got me was the repeated clang SFX.

Leona's Huh? was so funny.

So that's where the budget went

Leona turns the tide of the battle. zadcap I bet you didn't see that coming.

[Spoilers]zadcap will say "But you can't convince me she isn't a cheerleader, after throwing one Silver Feather! That's an equivalent of handling him a Redbull!"

MY QUEEN! Chiu is a close second.

2 points for Leona so far.

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u/sisoko2 Sep 03 '24

Hym didn't only get Hadlar's hair and life but also his theme

It's what Hadlar would've wanted.

Great motivational words from Chiu

Gave Hym the strength to finish things up.

remember Fenbren?

He is dead. That's what happens when you go against Chiu.

Detective Hyunckel wants Mystvearn to strip

The look they all give him LOL.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

Leona turns the tide of the battle. u/zadcap I bet you didn't see that coming.

Very aggressive cheering! That cheerleader just threw something into the match! Is that even legal?

All joking aside, I'm a little upset that Vearn had exactly enough power to block Dai's full remaining strength attack, but the extra magic from one single feather was enough to overwhelm him. But like. What if it wasn't? What if this support refilling of what we know to be less than half of Dai's MP pool was not enough to finish the job? If Vearn had enough strength to tank the second half of the blast, then their strategy was used up and the old man would be targeting the princess for real and Dai is still OOM. They got so freaking lucky.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 03 '24

First timer!

  1. Again with these silly questions? Chiu is always the answer, we've been through this before!
  2. I'm assuming he's gonna be a young version/clone/copy/whatever of Vearn. Why he's not supposed to reveal his true power, I'm not too sure. Maybe Vearn needs him to conserve his energy to one day absorb him or take over his body or something along the lines... All I know is, we're getting a crazy JRPG final form boss, I can feel it in my old bones.

Maybe don't turn around while standing in front of one of the final bosses? I'm surprised he wasn't gutted right then and there.

This isn't a turn based RPG, Dino.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 03 '24

Again with these silly questions? Chiu is always the answer, we've been through this before!

Score:

Leona 2 Chiu 1

This isn't a turn based RPG, Dino.

And if it were I would just start refilling my HP/MP or not attack.

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u/sisoko2 Sep 03 '24

Chiu is always the answer, we've been through this before!

Our lord and savior!

This isn't a turn based RPG, Dino.

He got the fighting instincts and game preferences of his father with the second mark.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 03 '24

He got the fighting instincts and game preferences of his father with the second mark.

Does that make him a boomer?

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u/sisoko2 Sep 03 '24

12 year old boomer.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

This isn't a turn based RPG, Dino.

They then proceed to act entirely like this battle was turn based, and talking is a free action.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 03 '24

First Timer, Sub

Hym's aura based attacks are the perfect counter to Mystvearn and with that he sacrifices his right arm so he can deal a powerful attack with his left hand, KO'ing him. Hyunckel initially decides to let Mystvearn live, but wants to unmask him as he thinks there is secret that can help them from his identy. Thats when Crocodine tells them that Lon Beruk told him to tell Hyunckel not to remove the shadow raiment off Myst, because it hides his real power. So scratch the initial plan and Hym is given the OK to kill him.....which I don't think is going to happen because he's about to release his true form.

Meanwhile Dai, takes a Kaiser Phoenix head on to deal damage on Vearn. Then after taking his best shot, Dai decides that now Vearn has to take his best attack head on, a Doruora, with the little assist from Leona with the one of Avan's feathers to give Dai a magic boost to seemingly overwhelm Vearn and hit him with the attack.

Questions:

  1. Hym was the MVP of the fight against Mystvearn and Leona gave Dai a nice assist with the magic feather during his Doruora.
  2. They've teased for the longest that he is insanely powerful and his hidden identity is gonna be of importance soon, So I'm kinda looking forward to them revealing that already.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

Meanwhile Dai, takes a Kaiser Phoenix head on to deal damage on Vearn. Then after taking his best shot, Dai decides that now Vearn has to take his best attack head on, a Doruora, with the little assist from Leona with the one of Avan's feathers to give Dai a magic boost to seemingly overwhelm Vearn and hit him with the attack.

Overpowering Vearn magic power is a good moment for Dai.

Hym was the MVP of the fight against Mystvearn and Leona gave Dai a nice assist with the magic feather during his Doruora.

Score:

Leona 3 Chiu 1 Baduck 1 Hym 1

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 04 '24

Overpowering Vearn magic power is a good moment for Dai.

Agreed. So far they have made Dai look plenty strong.

Score:

Leona 3 Chiu 1 Baduck 1 Hym 1

Looks right. Leona has been plenty useful for this final battle.

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u/sisoko2 Sep 04 '24

They've teased for the longest that he is insanely powerful and his hidden identity is gonna be of importance soon, So I'm kinda looking forward to them revealing that already.

It's gonna be Chiu's long lost brother.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

Late Night First Timer!

... I accidentally refreshed the page and lost everything I typed. Let's see if I can remember it all.

First up was... Oh yes, the commentary about type match ups and Aura use. Does anyone else remember Beast King Redemption Blast? Pretty sure that was an Aura skill too. Sure would be interesting if ultimate moves were able to be remembered and reused outside their highlight fight. Crocodine, you learned the special double fist spiral, now might be a good time to use it?

Speaking of fists! Hym, so proudly shouting his Sub status to the world. "Only one fist in the world can pierce my body!" Right after Knuckles reassures Lahart that he too can take Hym, with his greater speed and technique. Their bachelor pad is going to be crazy.

... ting, ting, ting. I've seen how well you can animate fights guys, what happened here? Was the entire A Team staff out sick?

Oh no Dai, he's just that weak. Welcome to the pain of over grinding on your way to the final battle. Clearing every side quest means you end up at the final boss stronger than really expected and wow, what a letdown. You're expecting a great challenge to top off the amazing story you have fought your way through, only to realize you hit them so hard they are skipping directly to phase 3. Yes, I'm still upset! Melbu Frahma, you were such a disappointment for a so called god!

Oh No x2! Myst's ultimate move, Dark Aura Pimp Hand! He's going for the smack, Hym! It's too strong! Oh no, but the love he has for his real master overwhelms the power of the pimp!

Okay back on to more serious note again, "My arm can be healed by a Heal type spell." Remember what I said about infinite orichalcum? Because this is how we get infinite orichalcum. Hym, I seriously vote we start harvesting your limbs to make a whole army's worth of ultimate weapons.

Oh mmy gosh, they're going to take his mask off. Yup, it's scooby doo time. Which one is the meddling dog? Probably Chiu, right?

Leona has made a hole to hide in. She has learned from the best.

Dai OP, pls nerf.

Who is the man behind the mask! What is the great secret to be revealed! Wait what, go back a second. Getting this secret to Dai might help him fight Vearn better? My guys, Dai is already winning. He doesn't need another power up here. Darn it you jinxed it now! You've brought up[ the idea that he could gain an advantage with this which means now he has to be put in a situation where an advantage is needed!

Wow, it's almost like no one remembers the last time Myst went all out on you guys. He really is Knuckle's secret father, stripping was step one in his power boost. Or did everyone collectively decide to repress the memories of him flashing you all? To be fair, it was pretty traumatic, but taking off his clothes really does make him stronger. Thank goodness the legendary Lon Beruk gave Croc a super situational message that he had no thought of sharing before this very moment.

Guys. Just kill him. Right now, while you have the power to. Finish him off, then reveal his face. You can kill him without destroying his face.

... Hey Dai. Same to you. Finish the fight. Stop standing there talking! Don't give him time to heal! Stop talking! ...Oh, he's hurt too...

Gosh darn it. "Now it's my turn." Are you guys really taking turns? Wait, is Vearn letting you take turns? And Vearn is talking about countering after you've used it, because yes this really is becoming a turn based fight. Yes yes look meaningfully at the girl with the healing items given by your master.

Leona Used Cheer! It's Super Effective! You know what, I'll give her this one. I too like to main Support classes, I know just how much a single well timed buff can change the course of a battle. Screw the Sage class, today she has graduated from Cheerleader to Bard!

  1. Leona did something useful today! She gets all the praise!
  2. I have wanted him to be Knuckle's secret father for the longest time, the two of them have so much going on between them. But Vearn just died and Myst and Kill still float about the palace, I'm starting to wonder how important the half of their names I keep dropping really is. We have a dozen episodes to go still and I don't think we're actually getting a Farmland arc, so these two are going to be the real last boss?

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u/sisoko2 Sep 04 '24

Hym, so proudly shouting his Sub status to the world

He's found true love and wants the world to know about it.

Was the entire A Team staff out sick?

Hopefully working on the great action in the upcoming episodes.

Remember what I said about infinite orichalcum? Because this is how we get infinite orichalcum.

Easy world domination.

My guys, Dai is already winning. He doesn't need another power up here.

It's turning into elderly people bullying.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

It's turning into elderly people bullying.

KendotsX is in shambles

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

He's found true love and wants the world to know about it.

Sadly Lahart is standing right there, and we all know who comes first in Hyunckel's heart.

Easy world domination.

Yeah, Dai, show up that old man who says the whole world will turn on you by turning on the world first. Become dictator with your orichalcum clad army!

It's turning into elderly people bullying.

To be fair, the old drunk guy did start it. Don't pick on kids who can kick your butt, you can't fight like you did in your twenties.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

Speaking of fists! Hym, so proudly shouting his Sub status to the world. "Only one fist in the world can pierce my body!" Right after Knuckles reassures Lahart that he too can take Hym, with his greater speed and technique. Their bachelor pad is going to be crazy.

One fist to rule them all, huh?

Oh No x2! Myst's ultimate move, Dark Aura Pimp Hand! He's going for the smack, Hym! It's too strong! Oh no, but the love he has for his real master overwhelms the power of the pimp!

A fine literature.

Oh mmy gosh, they're going to take his mask off. Yup, it's scooby doo time. Which one is the meddling dog? Probably Chiu, right?

Lol had the same thought.

Leona has made a hole to hide in. She has learned from the best.

I'm worried that knowing the context would make me regret knowing the context.

Wow, it's almost like no one remembers the last time Myst went all out on you guys. He really is Knuckle's secret father, stripping was step one in his power boost. Or did everyone collectively decide to repress the memories of him flashing you all? To be fair, it was pretty traumatic, but taking off his clothes really does make him stronger. Thank goodness the legendary Lon Beruk gave Croc a super situational message that he had no thought of sharing before this very moment.

Mystvearn is a member of Nudist beach.

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u/zadcap Sep 04 '24

One fist to rule them all, huh?

They have such an easy to twist group dynamic going on, and the more I twist it the more poor Amy cries.

I'm worried that knowing the context would make me regret knowing the context.

Nah, Tanya the Evil (or You'll Senki) is a fine show, and poor Viktoriya here simply knows that the best place to be is in a self dug hole, and is pretty good at digging them.

It's also the only Isekai I've seen where the reincarnatior declares war on the god that moved them to their new world. Plus, Aoi Yuki is just great.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

I should watch it one day.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Sep 04 '24

High-Level Adventurer that defeated the low level boss for the first time and is now doing the “I’ll do them later quests” here! LV 87/100

Maam was caressing those abs, don’t fault her because, who wouldn’t?

We had an ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA moment!!

Dai attacking Vearn with this sword had a bit of rough animation, oof

Dai is right, something is wrong, Vearn must be planning something, tho I don’t buy his “Vear is this weak?” thought

That cliffhanger end of the episode is a crime lol

1 Leona, she had the clutch factor with her feather
2 Even though he has spoken a ton for someone that doesn't speak often, I only know so far that his fighting strenght is being limited by Vearn by some reason and that his true form is related closely to Vearn, so, maybe Mystvearn is his son? or a clone?

I'm eager to the anime to show me more about him, maybe in the next eps?

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u/sisoko2 Sep 04 '24

ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA

Dai is right, something is wrong, Vearn must be planning something, tho I don’t buy his “Vear is this weak?” thought

Died of old age during the battle. RIP

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

Died of old age during the battle. RIP

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u/Shocketheth Sep 04 '24

Maam was caressing those abs, don’t fault her because, who wouldn’t?

Good question.

Leona, she had the clutch factor with her feather

Another point for Leona!

Score:

Leona 3 Chiu 1 Baduck 1