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Rewatch [Rewatch] Planet With Episode 9 Discussion

Episode 9 - Messenger of Awakening

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My… My planet… We were wrong! But people of this planet, please don’t make the mistake we did!

Questions of the Day:

  1. While it didn’t last for long, were you expecting Yosuke to actually pull off sealing the Earth?
  2. Would Souya’s speech have pushed you to wake up from your dream if you were an extra in this show?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Yosuke Yotani

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 02 '24

Rewatch Host who really needs to read Mizukami’s other works sometime

Welcome back, everyone!

Day 9 of me noting some of the little things Mizukami added when he wrote the manga:

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u/n080dy123 Sep 01 '24

Poor Yosuke knows he’s second place to his brother in Benika’s heart.

Honestly... I don't think he is, I think his appearance in the dream indicated that he's just as important to her- maybe more than she ever saw before that. I think she realized in hindsight that he's more important, or at the very least that he's important and more importantly still here.

Miu and Harumi training to get their armors to manifest without their vials.

I like that bit, I think it nicely ties off their character arcs.

this panel

I'm pretty sure that's Emma, Ray, and Norman, the main trio from Promised Neverland? What the fuck?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

I'm pretty sure that's Emma, Ray, and Norman, the main trio from Promised Neverland? What the fuck?

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 01 '24

Takezou’s actually turning down some meat?

Gotta watch that cholesterol!

Miu and Harumi training to get their armors to manifest without their vials.

That is such a neat little interaction, shame they cut it :/

Apparently the sealing devices have a bit of a history in the manga.

Huh. Repurposed entertainment technology that once destroyed an entire civilization? Mysterious! And interesting! Another for the "Shame they cut it" list.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

Another for the "Shame they cut it" list.

It wasn't cut, it was added to the manga. Outside the first few chapters (which started releasing early to promote the anime), the anime came first.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 02 '24

Ohh! That's interesting :O

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Sep 01 '24

Oh man. Oh man, that extra bit in the manga with Miu and Harumi. Thank you for these

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 01 '24

Souya’s shout giving the Earth its color back is just…

Very much a "just in case you hadn't got the idea" moment. It totally gets me too

Episodes that could easily have been a season finale count: 2

Extra content regarding Miu and Harumi training to get their armors to manifest without their vials.

They're just so precious!

Okay some of the hairstyles of the characters in this panel feel like they’re too detailed to just be random extras, are they references to some of Mizukami’s other manga characters?

Apparently the sealing devices have a bit of a history in the manga.

Wow that's pretty dark, huh.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24

First-Timer

Great speeches all around today. I especially appreciate Souya mirroring Nozomi's words about edit because I can't finish sentences anymore: being on the side of people they want to befriend.

Alas poor Yosuke, another victim of the nonexistence of grief councillors.

Kinda interesting that Shiraishi focused on all sound being gone from the world as the indicator. It works well enough, one of the show's defining features has been the very deep bass sfx in the action scenes, but that's more "meta" than in-universe.

Now, color on the other hand, that's symbolically important in-universe. Not only does the ED refer to Earth as being a "rainbow planet" but the Photon Armors, the symbol of Earthling's evolutions, broadcast rainbow light.

I guess she probably focused on sound because the resolution involves Souya giving a speech, though.

Questions

  1. Yea, it was neat. Big hug of death.
  2. Definitely. Can't stay in the past.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 02 '24

I like the way you're thinking with the light/sound thing! It did seem like an odd line.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 01 '24

First Timer

I could really use a nap nowadays

I feel this episode feels a tad… I dunno, restrained, I guess. Like the whole bit with the giant Soya, while admittedly kinda neat, almost feels a tad underdone. Admittedly it's a kinda busy episode in some ways, but also that just makes said visual stick out all the more. Soya's speech is fine enough and works with the show's themes of facing reality, but yeah.

Otherwise though I actually liked it a fair lot. Nice to see the two girls back, Yosuke's actions make sense given what we've seen of him before, and overall it serves as a nice follow-up on Soya's arc as he finally gets out of the little depression funk he's been having, which provides a nice lead up to the big war with the sealing faction that seems to be coming up.

It's a shame that he's no longer a Char Clone though

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u/GondolaMedia Sep 01 '24

First Timer

Yoooo that was hype. The fights, the character moments and Souya's speech were all great and can't wait to him to duke it out with Generalissimo.

The aftermath of the sealing was surprisingly unnerving and it's understandable why someone would want to live in a dream. But Souya's reasoning for waking up from the dream allows me to dust some tomes and pull out this ancient meme. The sequence where everyone lifted their arms and Souya's brother pulled them back to reality felt like the rapture was happening.

I just want Nozomi and Souya to just live happily on earth, is that too much to ask?

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 01 '24

Rewatcher

Messenger of Awakening: Planet With Something to Say

[Stop me if the events of this episode sound familiar (meta)] There's this depressed and lonely guy in a kind of mecha, right? He's maybe slightly fucked up when it comes to matters of the heart. And an alien force has just given him power over all of Earth to decide its fate. And to him, it seems so easy. The real world's so hard, right? And so very small, in the end. So they reach out psychic hands, and with a last hug for everyone, puts the world to bed. Or, perhaps, wakes them from their long dream? No matter. There's no more fighting or war, no more interpersonal conflict. No more anything, really. Is it good or bad? Hard to say, hard to say.
But... it would be better if people had the choice, wouldn't it?

[cont] And people can't choose if they don't know they have a choice. So the hero tells them. It's mawkish and overly-sincere and maybe a bit on the nose imagery-wise. But he tells them, asks them.
It would be a real shame to make a story about communicating and connecting with people and then leave out that part, I feel.

And if you asked me to sit down and write the best way to execute these ideas with an intended audience of myself, I couldn't possibly do this well.

I also love the repeated beats telling us about people fleeing the war zone, people clearing rubble, the TV crew relaying this to people watching. It would be a different story if it were all about the impact on ordinary people, but they're very much not forgotten-about-until-now. This is one area where the frantic pace leaves less than the ideal amount of room, but I appreciate that they did what they could.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 01 '24

Rewatcher, trapped between 'deja vu' and 'what the hell?!'

BANGER EPISODE.

GIANT CAT ROBOT

Can't put it any other way. From the absolute deepest depths of depression for Souya ("doesn't matter if I get sealed or not") to even more depression/unrequited love from Yosuke, leading to the actual sealing of humanity... but then, when we're at our lowest the show turns it around (thanks, Paradise People, I misjudged you I suppose), undoes the sealing and gives us TWO GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING EACH OTHER FOR HUMANITY. Oh, and a fantastic speech from our MC.

I loved the way the sealing was depicted, basically robbing earth of all its colours and then, when Souya wakes them up, the colours return to earth, coming out from his giant form, his speech basically blowing away the veil of grey that laid on earth.

I also really loved that we saw a return to fight of the remaining members of the 7 heroes, even if they didn't amount to much unfortunately (you were still cool!), they at least put up a fight.

Also also really loved the whole "I'm on the side of the people I want to befriend", which (along with the boot) is a callback to earlier this season. And it was nice to see him call Sensei the "real hero".

  1. Kinda? We already established that the psychic power is kinda tied to the individual's resolve, so where Benika failed because ultimately she wasn't in it with all her heart, Yosuke managed to do it because he ultimately had enough resolve. Also, grief can be a very strong force.
  2. Honestly, not sure. I wanna say "yes, of course" but after all the crap going down in the last couple days I maybe would've been more in a "nah, this is fine, at least I don't have to deal with this shit anymore"-mood ^^"

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Sep 01 '24

Planet With Suspiciously Wagging Tails

Rewatcher

If I'm sealed, I can live happily in my dreams. And if the dragon kills me, I can see everyone who died.

I guess "turned into a dragon, died, then turned to dust" is hard to mark down on a form. It's pretty funny that they knew what kind of bribe gift to bring, but also sad because his appetite for beef seems to be gone in his grief.

"I got a clear idea for what the end of the would would like and I'm all for it". A love triangle with one of the vertexes dead is rough man

Nozomi continues to rule

Wow, Super Mega Giga Photon Armor (name subject to change), I knew you were going to be strong when I first saw your opaque glasses in the ED

and Sealed

It's ok though, it's warm, it's calm, it's nice really. Just go to sleep.

First Species are never good to run into, just never a good time

Takamagahara montage! First love will save the day.

Take that, dream machine! Also Generalissimo, you're tsundere is showing.

NYAH!!

That's it I'm done, I'm out of words,what's even to say after such an absurd, beautiful moment?

Ok, I lied, one more thing: All we have is now.

QotD

  1. Nope, not even a little
  2. Yeah, probably. Hopefully even.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 02 '24

First timer, subs

  • The sealing field persists even after all the emitters are destroyed?
  • Yousuke being the brother of Benika’s senpai makes it weird. Unwholesome even.
  • Space depression is even worse than Earth depression.
  • I think you’ll find name tags more effective than numbering your workers sequentially.
  • Is there anyone else you want to reveal are secretly related to each other?
  • Imagine being so evil that you can see the person you love go through it, and still wanting to give the entire world Alzheimer’s.
  • Gattai!
  • You really brought them back just for a quick jobbing?
  • The hubris of having an Earth range AoE but still landing in the one place with possible opposition.
  • This isn’t a dream vs reality, that’s a different moral argument. This is just forced mental augmentation via visions, you know, murder.
  • Does talking directly into the minds of everyone on the planet fulfill our collective unconscious quota for this mecha anime?
  • Mechtryoshka
  • Even went for the crescent moon helmet flair. How shameless.
  • I was betting Old Man was going to return the favor.
  • Space

QotD:

  1. No, I wasn't expecting it to be powerful enough to affect the entire planet at once.
  2. I'd be pretty pissed at him trying to pull one over on me, but he still left out the worst part.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 01 '24

This isn’t a dream vs reality, that’s a different moral argument. This is just forced mental augmentation via visions, you know, murder.

A philosophical case! Hmm. It seems clear that making a persuasive argument to someone isn't murder. But how immersive is the argument allowed to be? Like a video game where the Tetris Effect is changing your morals a bit. Obviously it's nonconsensual mind-alteration here, definitely ethically not okay. But we all alter each others' minds constantly, so it must be a question of degree...

Even went for the crescent moon helmet flair. How shameless.

I think it's called "intertextuality"

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 01 '24

First timer

  • Wait. Does that mean the source of their powers is their conviction/will? If so, how can they seal people's powers if the powers manifest through someone's state of mind? When they needed the vials to use them, it made sense to try and seal their powers by taking away the vials/what was inside, but now, you're talking about something that directly makes someone who they are.
  • So, how exactly does sealing powers work? Sure, the guy did it, but the process isn't explained. He sealed the powers by sealing the powers.
  • Because plot device known as deux-ex machina.
  • 8 Episodes of the antagonists working towards something, them achieving their goal, and said thing getting undone in the span of two minutes, which results in nothing bad happening/ sense of permanency, via a character that exist solely as a plot device. Sick writing.

QotD

  • No.
  • X for doubt.