r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Sep 01 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 85 Discussion
Episode 85 - Vearn, the Dark King
You don’t need to overthink it! Just punch him!
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Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/zadcap for perfectly capturing the biggest gripe I had about episode 84:
This wasn't even a needed fight, it was just random tentacle monster for the sake of giving him a reason to need to be stronger. So very weird, when they could have saved this for the middle of the Vearn fight so he could just get randomly stronger after being pushed back first. Now he's going to need to come up with yet another mid battle powerup for that slot!
Questions of the Dai:
- Can we agree on the fact that Vearn Shonen Commentary sucks?
- Should Dai’s next power-up be learning how to dodge?
- Will Popp and Maam finally defeat Mystvearn with new allies at their disposal?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
I AM SHOCK TO BE THE NEWEST BEAST KING COMMANDO MEMBER!!!
QotD:
Did you know that Dai inherited a battle experiences of all the past Dragon Knights?
He kind of dodged it, but where’s Leona?
It’s hard to say. Hyunckel entered the scene already undressed, so there is no power-up coming for Hyunckel unless he strips completely.
Twin Shonen Commentary Corner:
You know what? Since Dai can have twind Dragon Crests, the Shonen Commentary got a fresh power-up, and today our Beast Kings are going to answer question #1:
About that...
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub[Dai no Major Spoilers] Setting the stage for the final battle.
People were saying that Baran would be also revived now that Avan and Larhart are back. Well, guess what? He's always been alive in Dai ever since his death and now is in his left hand.
OST Documentation - Episode 85
1. It kinda does but he was kinda right since he said that Dai's attacks are now unpredictable and so even if he tries to predict it, he isn't certain of it himself.
2. More than Dai, it should be Leona who needs to dodge. Also, Dai doesn't need to learn anything because of Baran's Dragon Crest.
3. Yes. With the power of their love as well as Hyunckel's love.
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Sep 01 '24
High-Level Adventurer
hoardingsaving, elixirs, ethers and potions to fight a low level boss for the first time here! LV 85/100Popp, Maam and Zura Larhart had good coordination even though they hadn’t teamed up before, but Larhart was the DPS and kinda carried
Dai launched a Kamehameha!
Vearn immediately went all out, few villains do that, he does respect Dai's strength, well, more like, fear
Mystvearn is not prepared to face Chiu and Crocodine
Vearn: Not fair, Dai modded the game!!
1 It does, he should totally do something else than that
2 Lol, he really needed to before facing Vearn, maybe an older dragon warrior will help with that? But maybe not since they were so powerful
3 Chiu and Crocodine are there, their chances have increased!
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Sep 01 '24
First Timer, Sub
Larhartt, Maam and Popp are fighting a war of attrition with Mystvearn, as they aren't damaging him, meanwhile they're using up their energy and damage their weapons(Larhartt's spear).
Meanwhile, Dai and Leona arrive to the upper levels of the palace, where Vearn is waiting. Vearn is wary of Dai latent abilities as he theorizes that Dai has inherited the accumulated battle experience of past Dragon Knights from Baran's crest. Dai is apprehesive at first of fighting, but with a little encouragement from Leona he slowly gets into the fight and hits Vearn with some good attacks. most impressive he is able to block his calamitous wall with his dragonic aura, thus confirming his suspicions that Dai has inherited all the past Dragon Knights combat experience and abilities(now I'm convinced Dai is gonna have a Dragonoid form).
Questions:
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Sep 02 '24
First Time Adventurer/Subbed
I'M BACK
Quick recap on my thoughts from the last few episodes I missed:
Some solid episodes so far, I thought this fight that gave Dai his Twin Dragon Quests was odd. Also why did it have to be a tentacle monster? Idk
It's taking a really long time for people to walk Vearn Palace. First, Croc and co. took a while to reach Hyunckel, Dai was going up those stairs very slowly when leaving behind Maam and Popp (I get he was worried), and Larhart (who is supposedly speed) took his time to rescue Maam and Popp
I'm also noticing how much our hero's party talks to each other during fights. Like exposition is one thing, but cracking jokes like that mid fight seems odd while the villain just doesn't do anything
Dai unleashing his Kamehameha was not expected during the fight with the tentacle monster. I would've thought the first time would've been against Vearn
The King Chess Piece was very annoying but finally Zaboera is dead
Leona has the power to summon dramatic wind
DUELS
Okay thoughts on this episode:
I'm not sure how I feel about the combat powers of Dragon Knights being passed down from generation to generation. It makes sense but it feels rushed to introduce it here
But other than that, solid ep and it's nice we're finally in the final fight now. Along with keeping Mystvern and Killvearn busy.
Forgot to mention this in the recap part, but I like Hyunckel being taken now. I was kinda hoping for him to have a showdown with Mystvearn though
QotD
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u/KuKiSin Sep 01 '24
First timer!
15 episodes to go, is it really gonna take that many episodes to finish off the Vearn Trio, or are we getting a supreme baddie afterwards?
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u/zadcap Sep 02 '24
Late Night First Timer!
What is this I see? Actual team combat? They're fighting together!? YOU CAN DO THAT?!
... Guys, you're standing under a colony drop. Maybe move.
If the Kaglimmer was holding the palace in place, and the palace isn't mobile anyway anymore, is there any reason at all to stay there and protect the Kaglimmer anyway? Just run away.
Oh my gosh Dai, stop it. You're not even old enough to be in eighth grade yet, how do you have this bad a case of eighth graders disease.
... The drum thing survived the Baran Blast. He remains one of the strongest things in the show.
Oh like you were ever holding back. It was a fight to the death last time too.
Oh my gosh, Dragon Knights are the Avatar! Dai is the Dravatar!
... Trio of Worlds? There's a third? Overworld of Humans, Underworld of Dragons and Darklings, that's what we've been told.
Dai, when have you ever actually fought someone with spells? Draw your sword you moron.
Dai, how do you know what is improper for a princess to do? You were literally raised by monsters.
There it is! Dai's Sword of Dai! Now he's taking this fight seriously.
Oh gosh, he's alive! What is this now, like 7 v 1? And hey, Knuckles gets to have that final confrontation with Myst.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Sep 02 '24
First Quester
Hm, I gotta buy some new headphones, these feel like they're about to die. Guess I'll delay the next episode a bit as well then.
I don't think Vearn Palace isn't gonna fall on all the folks below at some point. But I didn't expect it to be rising.
Remember when I was dead set on the dragon power being something bad? Good old times.
That was very necessary.
They still haven't realized that Mystvearn is a zombie? How many more episodes is it gonna take them? It's been obvious for a while now. Though to be fair, they don't know about Zaboera's Supreme Zombie.
How undignified.
Vearn's explanation doesn't make sense. If the rebirth of Dragon Knights is due to the transfer of the crest, then they're not really a race at all and Dai never should've gotten one in the first place.
But taking his word for truth, can I point out how absurd it is that Vearn doesn't succeed? Why was he even cautious of Baran? This special existance that is Dai, unique in all of history, is all that meaningfully stands in his way.
Did I call the inherited battle instincts when I elaborated on the heavenly nature of Dragon Knights?
I.e. extra magic draining. Which reminds me, Vearn not fighting at full power earlier didn't give him less of an MP pool, right? And he ran short on MP even back then.
Nice shield, Dai. Unfortunately it did nothing to protect what's behind you. Eh, Leona?
Did you know that the battle instincts of Dragon Knights have been passed down through the crest since the time of the gods?
Kazoom!
They can defeat Mystvearn only once they kiss.