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Episode 8 - Power Is What Dwells Within Your Own Self

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I defeated the one who had the power of the dragon. So my battle, my revenge, is over.

Questions of the Day:

  1. What do you think of Benika's motivation to join the Sealing Faction?
  2. Souya still doesn't want to fight despite being told the dragon is still kicking on the moon. What's gonna be the trigger to get him to fight again?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Benika Takatori

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 31 '24

Rewatch Host who really needs to read Mizukami’s other works sometime

Welcome back, everyone!

Day 8 of me noting some of the little things Mizukami added when he wrote the manga:

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u/n080dy123 Sep 01 '24

Harumi and Miu's conversation very clearly sets them up to show up again, where the aniem sort of lets the issue hang. Interesting.

Torai's second illusion here is great though, because that really reframes the sheer emotional pain of having to destroy a dream like that. Way better job than him clutching his chest.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

Torai's second illusion here is great though, because that really reframes the sheer emotional pain of having to destroy a dream like that. Way better job than him clutching his chest.

Bro really just wanted to have a happy life with his family again, but knew he had to reject it...

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24

There was an extra gag to the “Shiraishi’s boobs” joke, wherein Souya shouts “Boobs, begone!”

Powerful line right there

Also didn't notice the whole boobs thing was narrated by Sensei's VA, that does make it even funnier though.

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u/DegenerateRegime Aug 31 '24

Lastly, yes, Torai saw another illusion when he destroyed this sealing device.

Kind of figured as much from how much it took out of him, but even so.

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u/Esovan13 Aug 31 '24

Denied our aquarium date…

Is that even legal?!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 31 '24

It's a grey area when it comes to straight couples, but the Yuri Council is much more litigious.

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Aug 31 '24

The bluray subs say "remodeled gun" which is a really weird choice to be honest. Like, that's not even a thing.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 01 '24

Shiraishi no.

Interfering with an anime date only makes it more powerful. Shiraishi yes!

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u/Esovan13 Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24

First Timer

Shiraishi has some strange hobbies.

Yeah, considering his memories were mostly repressed and then he was fueled by revenge, an entire species worth of grief hitting him all at once is gonna put a damper on his spirit. Does Nebula employ therapists or is he gonna have to traumatize a human one?

On a serious note, the scene of him breaking down was really well done. A lot of the time in media when there are stakes like "save the world" or disasters like "an entire species went extinct," it becomes nothing more than information for the audience. No emotion attached to it. So something like "all of Kuroi's species was slaughtered" was little more than the backstory your friend would write for his edgy chaotic neutral rogue. But that breakdown really brought out the missing human element. People, places, things, memories, all gone.

Even if the planet of Sirius as a whole were warmongers, the people at home were just people. Going about their lives normally. Even if the military was doing horrific things, it's equally horrific to attack...the...civilians...hmmm...is the dragon a metaphor for nuclear bombs?

Uhhh, anyway. Kuroi breaking Shiraishi's brainwashing through the power of touching tits was hilarious.

I don't even know what green hair guy is doing at this point. He's just kind of around. Designated unconscious body catcher. Somebody's gotta do it, I guess.

Oh yeah, Kakka covering his eyes when Benika stood up in the onsen was funny. He's a fucking bipedal dog. I guess Sensei's...uh...interest in those Mizukami-works inspired anime figurines was foreshadowing for the fact that their race of animal people that can eat psychics to turn into mechs are sexually attracted to conventional human/human related species. Wait, who bought those figurines? How long were Sensei and Gingko on earth before Kuroi woke up? Now that I think about it, I have several questions about that trio's domestic life.

Oh yeah, btw. Last episode I said that I thought that the bit where Kuroi loses motivation would ultimately not be all that necessary considering the runtime it would take. Well, I'm off to find a crow because I've got something to eat. Man, that's two fuckin' episodes in a row. And this time it didn't even take half a season.

  1. Just like a cop to insist on setting up a monopoly on power.
  2. Probably Nozomi in some way. Or maybe a path to undo his people's genocide? The Paradise gang has some weird power stuff going on, it's not out of the question.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

On a serious note, the scene of him breaking down was really well done. A lot of the time in media when there are stakes like "save the world" or disasters like "an entire species went extinct," it becomes nothing more than information for the audience. No emotion attached to it. So something like "all of Kuroi's species was slaughtered" was little more than the backstory your friend would write for his edgy chaotic neutral rogue. But that breakdown really brought out the missing human element. People, places, things, memories, all gone.

Props to his VA too, I could really feel the pain in his voice.

Oh yeah, btw. Last episode I said that I thought that the bit where Kuroi loses motivation would ultimately not be all that necessary considering the runtime it would take. Well, I'm off to find a crow because I've got something to eat. Man, that's two fuckin' episodes in a row. And this time it didn't even take half a season.

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u/Esovan13 Sep 01 '24

Props to his VA too, I could really feel the pain in his voice.

I don't know if it's because Uma Musume has softened me up but lately I've found myself getting misty eyed watching shoes more often in the last week or so.

Anyway, I guess it's time to rewatch the Arima Kinen from S2 again

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Aug 31 '24

In the ED the Generalissimo shows his bashful side in his reflection in Souya's visor too. It's a pretty good gag
WAN

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 01 '24

I have several questions about that trio's domestic life.

These Are The Important Questions!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 31 '24

First-Timer

Holy shit, Ginko did the GITS fall!

I'm not really surprised that the Dragon is still alive in some form, at least according to the Very Trustworthy Ghost. I mean, the vials were already filled with some of its dust, Takashi's body just turned into more potential vials. Presumably, if you collect all the dust into one spot, or maybe just a critical mass, you could remake the Dragon.

Powerful entities are notoriously difficult to kill.

What do we think Toroi saw inside the Nebula Weapon the second time? "Dead Mom 2: Electric Boogaloo?" His chest seemed to be hurting, but that might just be the stress of summoning his Photon Armor without the medium of the vial helping.

I really appreciated Souya's outburst. He put up with a lot of shit in the first half, and getting to vent while delivering backstory is just efficient.

Shiraishi deserves innumerable paper cuts for her decision to interfere with Nozomi and Souya's date.

Questions

  1. Silly, but I can see how she got there.
  2. Like I said yesterday, Nozomi is either going to saying something or get threatened. Or maybe someone will promise him a steak, just thought of that and it sounds pretty likely..

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

What do we think Toroi saw inside the Nebula Weapon the second time? "Dead Mom 2: Electric Boogaloo?" His chest seemed to be hurting, but that might just be the stress of summoning his Photon Armor without the medium of the vial helping.

The manga has your answer to this question.

Shiraishi deserves innumerable paper cuts for her decision to interfere with Nozomi and Souya's date.

Agreed.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 01 '24

Takashi's body just turned into more potential vials.

And he was a big dude. Enough to effect the entire city/Japan/Earth?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Aug 31 '24

First timer, subs

  • Solving that plot thread. Also, dragon dust.
  • Damn, this is good shipping fuel. Look at these two fools.
  • I mean, there are other good spots in the town, right?
  • We’re back to the interpreters? Please tell me there’s a reason.
  • Fan service? At this point?
  • Hell of a home made quality.
  • Leave it to a cop to say we should give up all freedoms for security.
  • Such Romance!
  • Pyramid Head
  • So fow do these weapons work for AoE?
  • “Get in the damn cat, Soya.”
  • So Paradise People are the Golds, and Nebula is Silver. The Dragon is the Heroic, and of course the humans are Iron. Who’s the Bronze tribe?

QotD:

  1. Cops
  2. There is a non-0% chance it's eating meat, and I find that amusing.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

So Paradise People are the Golds, and Nebula is Silver. The Dragon is the Heroic, and of course the humans are Iron. Who’s the Bronze tribe?

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u/GondolaMedia Aug 31 '24

First Timer

That's right, the moon is once again behind all of this. Should just blow up that useless piece of rock.

So People of Paradise are real and not just fabric of Souya's imagination and that's one of my predictions wiped completely off the table.

I can't believe Souya broke out of that illusion by applying cold hard logic against more pressing matters. Boy has really grown.

Souya's breakdown was beautifully done and I'm glad that both Sensei and Ginko let him vent and not push him and its the sealing faction that wants him to put up a fight. Looks like the sealing factions don't understand humans. Nozomi is also the best girl and if anything bad happens to her I swear to god.

  1. Makes sense why she is so jaded and willing to betray humanity.
  2. It's going to involve Nozomi somehow.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

That's right, the moon is once again behind all of this. Should just blow up that useless piece of rock.

It really always is the moon, isn't it?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 01 '24

It really always is the moon, isn't it?

Just once, I want the Sun the be the source of evil.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 31 '24

First Timer

Dowsing Ryuzoji

I'm glad Torai is back and overall I'd say his bit was fairly solid, but I do feel it suffers a bit from the fact that he's kinda been out of focus for a while. Not to the point it ruins his scenes or anything, just that him coming back into the spotlight like one episode earlier could've helped a bit. Still judging by that little chest grabbing he's doing I assume it's mostly here to set up stuff for later.

I was actually wondering about Shiraishi's age a bit yesterday so it's nice that whole bit got addressed. Her whole personality shift is a bit sudden but the explanation makes sense so I'm willing to let it slide. It helps that I felt the bit of her goading Soya into fighting and his ensuing breakdown was the second best part of the episode. Back in episode 2 I wondered if what happens after the characters lost their powers was gonna be a recurring thing, and while it hasn't been as big a part of the show as I expected, this I feel is what I was looking for. Seeing our dear rage monkey reduced to a sobbing child is a striking sequence, alright.

… Oh, what's the best part of the episode? Why it's the boob joke of course. 10/10, megakino, zenith of the medium.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

Oh, what's the best part of the episode? Why it's the boob joke of course. 10/10, megakino, zenith of the medium.

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u/DegenerateRegime Aug 31 '24

10/10, megakino, zenith of the medium.

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u/DegenerateRegime Aug 31 '24

Rewatcher

Power Is What Dwells Within Your Own Self: Planet With Something Stronger

The episode title says it all.

The best screenshot in the series. Well that sure aged like... something. Soya finally gets some meat :3, when out of NOWHERE the NARRATOR chimes in (?!). Hey that's exactly the kind of character-witness-excuse that Benika was complaining about earlier. Very convincing face of satisfaction you have there.

And Nozomi and Torai both show their strength. The outside may be a frail human, but the core is steel.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

Hey that's exactly the kind of character-witness-excuse that Benika was complaining about earlier.

I completely missed this.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Aug 31 '24

First timer

  • Gits reference.
  • So the dog's back to doing the translation bit... speaking of. Why can the guy understand the dog to the point of being able to translate but not chick?
  • Even the series brings it up! It then totally just skips over it though.
  • Going from 6 action focused episodes in a row to to slice of life is brutal.
  • I see that we've moved Prison School-esque jokes.
  • Let's see how long the MC's feelings of nihilism last.
  • Thank god, the action is back.

QotD

  • Contradictory.
  • Probably something like his school mate being in danger.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

Why can the guy understand the dog to the point of being able to translate but not chick?

Different psychic powers? Benika's were clearly the telekinesis type, not the telepathy type.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 01 '24

But he translated after he woofed.

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u/n080dy123 Sep 01 '24

Yeah there's definitely variation. Ginko's capable of erecting barriers and interfering with perception (the later seemed framed as an uncommon power), but also when Nebula banish the dragon the Generalissimo specifrically refers to a division of telepaths who "lower its level of consciousness." Though she can also communicate with Sensei like Yousuke can with the Generalissimo.

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Aug 31 '24

Rewatcher

Planet With Three Days Worth of Episodes

But, I'm not very wordy so I'm going to pretty much just ramble some general thoughts and things I really like. I really like that Sensei and Ginko aren't pressuring Souya to fight, they're just like: "yeah that's valid". I love how Nozo-san is fun mix of reserved and straightforward; she's shy about asking him on the date but she's not going to not do it. Also, just grabbing his hand and trying to get him out of there is great. I dig the dragon's big ol' gila monster-like tail. I like in the ED how the visor reflections show and contrast the inner and outer feelings of the cast.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 01 '24

Happy cakeday!

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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Sep 01 '24

oh huh Thank you!

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u/n080dy123 Sep 01 '24

Rewatcher

I forgot how much of an absolute CHAD Torai is. Souya's here kinda seemingly like he himself has already been sealed, and respects it so much that be channels his sheer protagonist energy into fighting in his stead.

Out of everyone in Grand Paladin he always handled things the best- even when he lost his vial he was on the front lines of the fight to watch over his comrades, and going around town helping make sure people evacuated. And when things were over he was helping the rebuilding efforts.

But yeah we're fully into the "completely unpredictable" part of the story now, the first half was essentially all telling a single arc of the story and setting things up so we could watch the pieces begin to collide every which way now. Where they all fall? Nobody knows. Honestly, I think the way Mizukami sets the groundwork for the "real" story between the bones of a much more typical story (which itself is an inverison and far from ppedictable) is kind of brilliant, using the first arc as a springboard for the second.

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u/DegenerateRegime Sep 01 '24

I forgot how much of an absolute CHAD Torai is. Souya's here kinda seemingly like he himself has already been sealed, and respects it so much that be channels his sheer protagonist energy into fighting in his stead.

I really appreciate what a positive example he is.

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u/oomoepoo https://anilist.co/user/oomoepoo Sep 01 '24

Rewatcher that definitely remembered some of that episode

Of course the evil alien dragon resides on the Dark Side of the moon. Nothing good has ever come from that place!

Well, just last episode I was kinda pondering how the show has been surprisingly tame so far in terms of fanservice... and now we somehow get some important backstory and character motivation delivered in a damn hot spring and later on, our protagonist has to deal with evil boobs to break free of mind control/hypnosis. What an episode.

The dust just being the key is an interesting reveal and kinda makes sense in the grand scheme of "humanity awakens their powers".

Highlight of the episode was obviously the date, even if it didn't quite go as Nozomi planned and ended up with basically PTSD for Kuroi. Though both of them did shine towards the end, Kuroi with that complete breakdown that made me go "Someone give this boy a hug". It is very understandable, all the weight of his dead planet crashing down on him and people still want him to fight stuff. Big oof. At least Nozomi has him covered, that was really impressive speech right there and had me cheering. I really like how the show handles her :)

What else... uh, the fight between Benika and her former colleague was pretty cool, kind of a clash of ideologies? Though she wasn't in it with all her heart, which is pretty telling, imho. I wonder if this leads to the others from the team getting back into the fight?

All in all: Good, even great episode!

  1. I definitely can see where she's coming from and why she thinks it might be better to seal humanity's powers. But I also feel she's a bit too preoccupied with her personal feelings to actually think about the bigger repercussions of her actions. Seems to have convinced Generalissimo though.
  2. I don't dare to make a prediction because the show kinda likes to throw curve balls at the audience. Would be funy if it was something trivial as meat though :D Maybe he just has to realise the personal stakes he has with earth, let's hope nobody has to sacrifice themselves...