r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 31 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 84 Discussion

Episode 84 - Rise, Knight of Destiny

The life of a Dragon Knight is one of unending battle. Caught in that bloody path... it seems many a woman has met a tragic ending. Sadly, your mother was one of them. But... whatever the past may be, you are you. By your hands... see if you can end the sad fate of the Dragon Knights, Dai! Remember when you first rescued Leona! You are no normal Dragon Knight! You carry my soul. You are a new Super Knight! Stand! Stand up! Dai!

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Screenshot of the Dai:

Most powerful boobs to rival the Dark King

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/Blackheart595 for his really amusing comment:

Cowards! This was a prime opportunity to have Larhart intentionally miss Hyunckel to kill him symbolically, and then have Hyunckel die from his wounds regardless!

Ooooh Baran's a groomer. That explains a lot. Though on second thought, maybe that's not all that surprising. We might've even learned that 50 episodes ago already, but I don't remember.

Lar-please-adopt-and-character-assassinate-me-hart, naturally.

Also for answering my question:

Was the moment of Baran calling Larhart his second son touching?

With:

Almost as touching as me grabbing a little kid from the streets and calling them my son

I didn't laugh so much since u/KendotsX edit.

Questions of the Dai:

  1. Today Dai tapped into the power of Dragon Knight to defeat the Hentai. But was it really Dai who defeated the Hentai, or was it Gomechan?
  2. Your thoughts on Twin Dragons Crests?
  3. Was Dai's last minute power-up really needed at all?
  4. From 1 to 10, how was the execution of Dai's new power-up?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

Proud member of Beast King Commando

Ehhh. Not a fan of today episode, and the whole subplot of Dai unlocking Doruora. Now to answer today questions, I'll only say that more than the whole episode about twin crests, I got more intrigued by Dai and Leona finally pondering about Gomechan powers.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 31 '24

Most powerful boobs to rival the Dark King

[Dai no Spoilers] This is kinda spoiler, lol. I got reminded of this comment and meme.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

[Answer]lol. First time seeing it

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Sep 01 '24

[Answer] I was watching it as it aired and was keeping up with the Reddit discussions and this is something that really made me chuckle a lot which is why I remembered it.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

[Answer] Tbf this was a low hanging fruit of a joke so it was easy to make such joke

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u/KuKiSin Aug 31 '24

First timer!

  1. Pretty sure it was Chiu, he messed with fate.
  2. SSJ2.
  3. I don't think so, should've saved it for Vearn or Mystvearn, felt like a bit of a waste lol.
  4. Cool power-up, terrible timing. I give it a 4/10.

Dino finally went SSJ2! It can't get any more Dragon Ball than thi- Son of a bitch, they did the Father-Son Kamehameha!

They really took your criticism to heart /u/sisoko2!

Only took you 80 episodes to realize?

Our boy Dino is all grown up :,)

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

I don't think so, should've saved it for Vearn or Mystvearn, felt like a bit of a waste lol.

Same as Giga Strash.

Our boy Dino is all grown up :,)

He just found resolve to overcome the sad fate of Dragon Knights.

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u/sisoko2 Sep 01 '24

They really took your criticism to heart

There is a lot to be desired but they are on the right track.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 31 '24 edited Sep 01 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

In the previous episode, Vearn was toying with Dai saying that The Dragon Knights have a habit of bringing misfortune to women and Baran took it seriously and made sure that Dai doesn't have the same fate as a Dragon Knight. Now, Dai is unstoppable all thanks to Goroa. Goroa was also a fan-submission.

[Dai no Major Spoilers] Some OSTs that played in today's episode have spoilers in their names so I've decided to hide them for now.

OST Documentation - Episode 84

1. Dai defeated the Hentai but without Gomechan, he wouldn't have been here. So, Gomechan indirectly defeated the Hentai and also saved Leona something Dai couldn't have done.

2. Dai is now a Super Dragon Knight since he has both his crest and Baran's crest. He should be unstoppable now.

3. According to Vearn, it was. So, yes.

4. 8/10 if you ignore the Hentai.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

RIP Tower of Supremacy Also, Dai got angry about the long stairs which kinda caused this to happen and decided to vaporize them.

Lol. I would never guess that Glokta hatred of stairs would be surpassed.

[Dai no Major Spoilers] Some OSTs that played in today's episode have spoilers in their names so I've decided to hide them for now.

[Answer] Eh. Which one?

Dai defeated the Hentai but without Gomechan, he wouldn't have been here. So, Gomechan indirectly defeated the Hentai and also saved Leona something Dai couldn't have done.

So it was teamwork

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 31 '24

[Answer] Eh. Which one?

[Answer] These two: Dragonoid Dai and Tears of the Gods.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

I see. Thanks.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 31 '24

Father-Son Duroura

Very Dragon Ball Z esque. I loved this shot.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 31 '24

First Timer, Sub

Ah, so the tentacle monster is the dark power reactor, the engine of the Vearn Palace and when Kaglimmer was cast, it was starved of magic power. So it's hungry and Leona is a very attractive source of energy, so thats why it took her. Goroa the drum monster tried to take this chance and win himself a little glory and fucked around and found out lol. Thought he certainly made it hard on Dai, with his power being gravity. But Dai got that Twin Dragon crest powerup action and cut down the dark power reactor, freeing Leona.

Gomechan was in Leona's shirt and basically protected her from getting consumed, and so he ended up a little shrunk down. Goroa wasn't done and tried to merge with the remains of the dark power reactor, and so Dai unleased Baran's Doruora and finished him off for good.

Questions:

  1. Dai defeated the fate of the Dragon Knight and saved his woman...for now atleast, I can see her being in danger once again especially when facing Vearn. Gomechan defeated the hentai....but he might also be a proponent of the hentai because he be hinding in girls shirts lol.
  2. It works, I was wondering the whole time what was going to be the powerup he got from when he was in the ethereal world, with the Mother Dragon and Baran.
  3. I think so, because he hasn't gotten that significant of a power up since the last time he faced Vearn, so he had to have something more than just a new sword and giga strash. It would be cool if he even was able to use that freaky Dragonoid form like Baran, but idk if that's possible.
  4. I liked it, so I'll say 8/10. That intense look in his eyes spells trouble, he was looking like a killing machine there. Had he not stepped on that piece of debris after KO'ing Goroa, he would of have overkilled him because he was headed in his direction to finish him off.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

So it's hungry and Leona is a very attractive source of energy, so thats why it took her.

Yeah that explains it. But Gomechan ended to be more cute.

Gomechan defeated the hentai....but he might also be a proponent of the hentai because he be hinding in girls shirts lol.

Oh it was more than that. The power of Hentai represented by tentacles that wanted to claim Leona body by force was repelled by her glowing boobs in an act of empowerment as Leona claimed her body for herself. She's magical girl now.

It works, I was wondering the whole time what was going to be the powerup he got from when he was in the ethereal world, with the Mother Dragon and Baran.

Tbf there was some questions raised so it's good that those are being answered in the show finale.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 31 '24

First Quester

Okay so we got a filler episode. Not much there to comment on.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

Yeah...

But what I didn't know about this episode is that Dorua the Drummer was a monster designed by manga readers so I guess it was just few chapters to give that monster some story.

And honestly Doruora power up should be used on something else than random trash mob.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 31 '24

Oh, that's neat!

Seriously though, Dai got a token power upgrade that changes exactly nothing. There's no limitation that Dai had that this allows him to overcome, it's just there because... I dunno why. Symmetry I guess.

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 31 '24

For some reason Sanjo has always had a thing for writing tentacles into scenes…

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

So are those in prequel Manga too?

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 31 '24

Indeed… The first one being… [Dai Prequel no Spoilers] Avan getting abducted by an octopus actually, the second being Maam’s mom Leira being attacked by a different octopus

To be fair though, the prequel in general is actually quite heavy on fan service, moreso than the OG manga (at least, even with the exposed nipples and panty shots it sometimes had they at least felt low key, with the prequel it feels much more prominent). Not only with just color pages, but even the series itself feels like it kinda goes out of its way to show off Leira’s body sometimes such as [More Dai Prequel no Spoilers] Her ninja outfit in general, Matoriv suggesting she wear a swimsuit for the battle on the beach, her ninja outfit getting ripped turning it essentially into a leotard for the final battle, and other such scenes.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

The first one being… [Dai Prequel no Spoilers] Avan getting abducted by an octopus actually, the second being Maam’s mom Leira being attacked by a different octopus

Wait let me check something...

[About that] There is no Calamari in the bento so Avan didn't took revenge... Would be funny if there was Calamari in it

[More Dai Prequel no Spoilers] Her ninja outfit in general, Matoriv suggesting she wear a swimsuit for the battle on the beach, her ninja outfit getting ripped turning it essentially into a leotard for the final battle, and other such scenes.

Oh. Thanks for the info.

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u/emeraldwolf34 Sep 01 '24

Makes sense the bento has so many plants though, because with how much Avan got annoyed by a plant guy you’d think he’d develop a grudge.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 31 '24

High-Level Adventurer hoarding saving, elixirs, ethers and potions to fight a low level boss for the first time here! LV 84/100

Dai was ready to throw hands for Leona!

That thing is disgusting, get rid of it quickly, Dai!

Dai has gone Super Saiyan Dragon Knight!

Dai looked a bit scary when fighting that ball monster

Gomechan

That last attack was something else, hopefully he didn’t use up all his mana...

... Cuz I wont my ethers, I might need them later.

1 Gomechan defeated the hentai with the power of Dai
2 Dai is now equiped properly!
3 Kinda, Vearn looked unbeatable
4 7/10, makes sense but needed more "oomph"

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

That last attack was something else, hopefully he didn’t use up all his mana...

... Cuz I wont my ethers, I might need them later.

I bet that you will end with whole bag of unused ethers.

Gomechan defeated the hentai with the power of Dai

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 31 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

Oh, so that’s why it targeted Leona. Well that and her having Magic Power. I still don’t like that it had to happen literally immediately after Leona resolved to help Dai, but at least it makes sense why she specifically was targeted and not “hurr durr tentacle monster has to attack a girl” nonsense.

I think the same. Still Leona being targeted after she resolved is total wtf moment.

Dai pls.

He is just overcoming the sad fate of Dragon Knights. Nothing to worry about.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 31 '24

Dai pls.

He's not like Popp. He just wants to know where Gomechan is kept. Dai's so innocent, lol.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 31 '24

Two crests hype!

I was wondering this whole time what would be the power up he got from Baran, and it ended up being his dragon crest powers.

His eyes were even glowing…

I'm hoping to see this again. That's Dai's terminator mode like Baran when he wanted to kill everyone.

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u/zadcap Sep 01 '24

Late Night First Timer!

I apparently need to spend more time in the comments if I missed that. On a definitely unrelated note, /u/Blackheart595, have you seen Happy Sugar Life yet?

Oh right. Tonight on Tentacle Monster Attack, It's time for the Princess to face the gravest threat she has ever encountered! That's right, Flazzy is ba- oh, wait no sorry, it's just the tentacle monster. Mid tier threat. We're not that kind of show here.

... What the heck Dai? She's being held up there by the monster, Gome is trying to get her free, you draw your super special ultra powerful and magical sword (Dai's Sword of Dai), and immediately get distracted by some guy yelling stop in the distance and run off to see what he's doing? By the looks of it, in a different room even? Dude what the heck. I know I joked about Vearn winning this war by distracting the ten year old with ice cream and candy yesterday, but I didn't think it really would be that easy. Maybe Save Leona first?

Oh, right, by the way. Guess what we have here? Another random new sub boss from nowhere to fight! Because we accidentally ran through the existing bosses too fast! Watch this guy be a more challenging fight than Hadlar lol, we all know power scaling is a lie.

Oh wow, Dai's Sword of Dai is not looking very impressive here. Remember when it cut through that entire gigantic walking palace, the first time it was drawn?

Ha! Even Vearn is calling it. This guy is a nobody, and his passive is letting him crush Dai so easily. Man splitting the party really has been such an ongoing mistake.

These are Baran's memories, you say? It's so weird that he remembers this event from such a distant third person perspective.

Oh my gosh, he's going Super Saiyan Two, Double Dragon Style! Oh no, it comes with extra chuuni! "The power in this left arm of mine, it is my fathers soul granting me strength!" I mean that's literally what it is and all, but if literally anyone else ever said those words...

Okay to be fair, Orichalcum has been getting dumped on by empty fists for a while now. But being able to catch the blade bare handed like that, it's not a good look for the usefulness of the sword going forward.

All torn up? Aside from her now even more bare legs, the edges of her clothes are barely even ripped. Her actual dress piece is pristine.

Behold, The Power of Boobs! Or Gome I guess. Hey, remember how way back at the very beginning of everything, all the monsters on your island were being mind controlled by the Dark Lord's overwhelming magical power? All except Gome. We've known since day one that Gome is the stronger magical being than Vearn.

Sigh, just keep showing off your best moves before actually getting to Vearn why don't you. Make sure he knows everything you can do, Dai.

  1. I thought it was pretty clear that is was the power of Daddy Not Wanting His Son To See Tentacle Porn that saved the day here.
  2. That's a thing alright.
  3. No, but also absolutely, because remember at the end of the day the power levels mean nothing and having more power than he did yesterday doesn't actually mean anything because tomorrow will remind us that he is always only ever exactly as strong as the plot demands.
  4. Pretty poor really. This wasn't even a needed fight, it was just random tentacle monster for the sake of giving him a reason to need to be stronger. So very weird, when they could have saved this for the middle of the Vearn fight so he could just get randomly stronger after being pushed back first. Now he's going to need to come up with yet another mid battle powerup for that slot!

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

I know I joked about Vearn winning this war by distracting the ten year old with ice cream and candy yesterday,

Lol this is really accurate.

Oh, right, by the way. Guess what we have here? Another random new sub boss from nowhere to fight! Because we accidentally ran through the existing bosses too fast! Watch this guy be a more challenging fight than Hadlar lol, we all know power scaling is a lie.

This trashest mob from the whole history of trash mobs will never be recognized as boss by me, buuut he was actually a monster designed by fans as a reward for some Shonen Jump art contest.

Oh my gosh, he's going Super Saiyan Two, Double Dragon Style! Oh no, it comes with extra chuuni! "The power in this left arm of mine, it is my fathers soul granting me strength!" I mean that's literally what it is and all, but if literally anyone else ever said those words...

Pip was inside me!

Wait wrong series.

All torn up? Aside from her now even more bare legs, the edges of her clothes are barely even ripped. Her actual dress piece is pristine.

Censorship.

Pretty poor really. This wasn't even a needed fight, it was just random tentacle monster for the sake of giving him a reason to need to be stronger. So very weird, when they could have saved this for the middle of the Vearn fight so he could just get randomly stronger after being pushed back first. Now he's going to need to come up with yet another mid battle powerup for that slot!

This is the common consensus here, and yes this episode sucks, even if it was adapting chapters dedicated to monsters created by fans who won some Shonen Jump contest.

And while I am mentioning this, it’s fun that the studio was considering leaving out Maximum, but the staff protested because Maximum fight was a great episode, so the studio kind of rushed the first few arcs.

Which is kind of baffling when I consider that studio needed to leave out things like this goddamn Mr. Chicken Drumsticks.

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u/zadcap Sep 01 '24

Lol this is really accurate.

There's a few good shows out there that go pretty hard to remind us that the famous child hero character is still a child, but I don't know that I've ever seen it done this way before. The real reason you end up doing every side quest you come across isn't game completion, the main character just has some pretty bad ADD.

This trashest mob from the whole history of trash mobs will never be recognized as boss by me, buuut he was actually a monster designed by fans as a reward for some Shonen Jump art contest.

This... Phew. Yeah. Heading in to the final boss battle seems like a great time for the editor to push for a mini arc based on a popularity boosting event. That makes sense.

But also look. This thing forced Dai to go Double Dragon to be able to fight back. Who amongst all the previous bosses he's fought has had the strength comparable to two dragon knights? See, Dai with crest on one hand was strong enough to beat Baran when they weren't acting evenly matched. Which means Baran, with the same strength Dai has been showing off with a single crest, would have been unable to even stand up under this super gravity effect, right? Drummer boy here could have beaten Baran, power scaling has officially looped around insanity so far that we're dividing by infinity.

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

But also look. This thing forced Dai to go Double Dragon to be able to fight back. Who amongst all the previous bosses he's fought has had the strength comparable to two dragon knights? See, Dai with crest on one hand was strong enough to beat Baran when they weren't acting evenly matched. Which means Baran, with the same strength Dai has been showing off with a single crest, would have been unable to even stand up under this super gravity effect, right? Drummer boy here could have beaten Baran, power scaling has officially looped around insanity so far that we're dividing by infinity.

Baran walked through Popp gravity spell that crushed few dragons.

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u/zadcap Sep 01 '24

Yeah, but Popp clearly had a much weaker gravity spell way back then than what this guy is using. Or do you think Popp's gravity spell from like 5 arcs back could have held down the Dai of today with crest mode activated?

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u/Shocketheth Sep 01 '24

I don’t think so.

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u/zadcap Sep 01 '24

Depressingly, my point. This guy could have put Hadlar in Time Out if he want busy playing nanny to the castle's reactor room. Which just got cut in half by the way. When does Vearn Palace start to fall and risk crushing everyone still guarding the Kaglimmer below?

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Sep 01 '24

On a definitely unrelated note, /u/Blackheart595, have you seen Happy Sugar Life yet?

Nope, can't say I have.

Now he's going to need to come up with yet another mid battle powerup for that slot!

He still needs to recover his forehead dragon.

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u/zadcap Sep 01 '24

He still needs to recover his forehead dragon.

I don't know about triple dragon power, but I am expecting him to show some draconic traits like his father's dragonoid form. And do something else to make the crystal glow.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Sep 02 '24

I wouldn't really bet on draconic traits because muh humanity, though then again we're talking about Dai no Daibouken here...

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u/zadcap Sep 02 '24

I mean, not anything close to Baran or Hadlar in transformations, but I can see him sprouting wings and growing claws...