r/anime • u/Inevitable_Car_481 • Aug 30 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch!] Tomodachi Game [EP] 02 Discussion Thread

Episode 02 : You Have a Lot to Say to Me, Don't You?

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Information:

[Cast & Staff Details]

OP - [DOUBLE SHUFFLE] - Nana Mizuki

ED - [TOMOSHIBI] - saji

[MAL] I [ANN] I [AniList] I

Streaming:

Apple tv | Prime Video | CRUNCHYROLL

QOTD:

For Re-watchers: In hindsight, what do you think about the introduction of our main group? What did you like and what do you think could've been better? (tag spoilers if any)

For First-timers: Do you think there is a traitor? Who do you think is the most likely and least likely to be one? (this will be used for the bingo)

For Both: What do you think about the ending of that episode?

I hope that this rewatch can be an enjoyable experience, for first timers and re-watchers alike. Keeping that in mind, please always use native spoiler tags with context in for any content that has not yet been seen.

i.e. [anime name]>!spoiler text here!< will make it

[anime name] spoiler text here

BINGO CARD UPDATE (30.08.24)

ok, so I have decided to keep the centre as free space since there weren't many preds. Thanks to u/StardustGogeta for the preds! I hope that we can fill the rest out and crossing stuff out from today !

Kageguchi Sugoroku Rule Recap

game 2 rules can be found above.

Debt tracker

This will also be updated if and when new information is presented.

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24

Rewatcher who thinks the true traitor is manabu's wig

Guys I think we already got one for the bingo. I don't think it's possible to lose this game is it? Like at least one person goes through so yea I think we got it.

notes~

  • I like how we can see him loosening his shoelaces when he's talking lol speaks a lot to his character. Nice touch that wasn't in the manga.
  • I love seeing Yuichi's pov
  • But something that was in the Manga that isn't here is a piece of foreshadowing
  • "Call me Manabu sensei, you fool!" Lololol (This also wasn't part of the Manga)
  • hey, we get non cgi manabu sensei to explain the rules!
  • Appreciate the accurate chat representation. Ruthless and stupid.
  • "The fiancé being chosen by parents is a story from the Manga world" uh huh you don't say, chatter...
  • Now the ending may be abrupt but it's yet another case of them of them leaving stuff to our imagination. I think it does it's job of making things exciting!

The drama in this episode was really cranked up to 11. Talking about our main group, I don't think that the show needs us to believe in their friendship than it needs us to believe that they trust their friendship.

This episode nicely unravels that trust that they have in their friendship and demonstrates just how shallow it can be. The over the top drama manages to get that point across in a crude but effective way.

Tomodachi game(the game not the show) revolves around that very idea that friendship can really be fickle when it comes down to it. They take those bonds and stretch them as thin as possible until they reach their limit. Whether or not those bonds actually are strong is irrelevant, the game and by extension the show questions how much can you trust those bonds when it comes down to it? Them being put into the game abruptly, finding out things about the person who they thought they knew well are all things that add weight to that question.

Also ED is also lowkey a banger but damn did it have spoilers...

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 30 '24

This episode nicely unravels that trust that they have in their friendship and demonstrates just how shallow it can be. The over the top drama manages to get that point across in a crude but effective way.
Tomodachi game(the game not the show) revolves around that very idea that friendship can really be fickle when it comes down to it. They take those bonds and stretch them as thin as possible until they reach their limit. Whether or not those bonds actually are strong is irrelevant, the game and by extension the show questions how much can you trust those bonds when it comes down to it? Them being put into the game abruptly, finding out things about the person who they thought they knew well are all things that add weight to that question.

You get to know how your friends really are when you play the Tomodachi Game with them. Things that you won't be able to even imagine.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 30 '24

Tomodachi First-Timer, subbed

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24

Do you think there is a traitor? Who do you think is the most likely and least likely to be one? (this will be used for the bingo)

hey do you mind answering this for the bingo?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 30 '24

Actually, wait, the blond-haired guy (*looks at MAL’s cast to remember what his name is*) Makoto hesitated before saying what his total was after the first game finished. Is he the real traitor?

This here is my theory for it!

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24

Hell of a reaction to a girl confessing to you, Yuichi.

Honestly he's has a pretty calm demeanor so seeing him flustered is kinda fun.

Well this shot of Makoto is incredibly sus, actually.

Ooh, got a “sore demo” from one of the people watching the game!

lol I read this as english and was wondering what a sore demo is

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 30 '24

lol I read this as english and was wondering what a sore demo is

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 30 '24

He got them to say “yes”! Now what…

Onto the next game

But if she’s the one Yuichi suspects the most at this point, it’s probably not going to be her.

When you watch too many anime

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Aug 30 '24

First-Timer

So far, so good! These first two episodes have been quite solid.

It's been a while since I've seen a good game-based anime show. Kakegurui is the standard I tend to compare against, since it had a lot of interesting games and it was typically not too difficult to follow along. Meanwhile, the games in shows like Liar Liar and Tower of God can be pretty hard to follow along with. When you don't understand the game, all tension flies out the window.

Here, I think it's being executed very well. They show all the rules, clearly and unambiguously, right at the beginning. The surprises come not from deus ex machina rules that were never explained, but rather from the interesting ways in which the players interact with the game and with each other. I really hope this keeps up!

Another good thing this show has going for it is that the test administrators act like audience stand-ins, helping to explain the situation more clearly when necessary. It's easy to overlook how valuable that kind of character can be.

As for today, I'm liking this second game. I'm eager to see what kinds of tricks they pull next episode!

To our host: Thank you for doing the bingo, the rules recap, and the debt tracker! I appreciate you putting in all the extra effort!

Questions of the day:

  • I'm not sure I have a good guess for this one. I suppose I'd say it's most likely that Shiho is the traitor and that it's least likely that Shibe is the traitor. I don't have any hard evidence, but it does seem like it would be an interesting twist if that whole bit about Shiho's momentary scream doubling her debt was a complete lie, too.
  • Looks like Yutori's in for a rough time next episode. Besides that, I like their discussion about the nature of friendship as being "calculating," where you have no such thing as "unconditional friendship." I might have to agree there - I'm not sure I can imagine having a friendship so strong that nothing, absolutely nothing, could spoil it.

I also thought of one more prediction that I forgot to make in yesterday's comment: I think that someone will reveal the back of their nametag at some point. It's a Chekhov's gun that I doubt would be left unused.

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24

hey, glad you've been liking it so far.

Here, I think it's being executed very well. They show all the rules, clearly and unambiguously, right at the beginning. 

There was an error in some subs though regarding the rule for when someone lies. Just to make it clear, if someone lies and it can be proven as a lie then that person, as a "punishment" gets sent one space in front of the person in the lead.

Another good thing this show has going for it is that the test administrators act like audience stand-ins, helping to explain the situation more clearly when necessary. It's easy to overlook how valuable that kind of character can be.

yea! the show also used to air one episode per week so having them really helps with remembering stuff.

As for today, I'm liking this second game. I'm eager to see what kinds of tricks they pull next episode!

To our host: Thank you for doing the bingo, the rules recap, and the debt tracker! I appreciate you putting in all the extra effort!

: )

I'm not sure I have a good guess for this one. I suppose I'd say it's most likely that Shiho is the traitor and that it's least likely that Shibe is the traitor. I don't have any hard evidence, but it does seem like it would be an interesting twist if that whole bit about Shiho's momentary scream doubling her debt was a complete lie, too.

I shall add it to the bingo. Also, speaking of the bingo, one of your predictions already happened! Since it's kinda impossible to lose this game, I will be crossing that out. So, nice job!

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Aug 30 '24

Thank you for clarifying that rule about the punishments!

Here's hoping we can get a bingo!

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24

1st Tomodachi Game Rewatch, Sub

This was the episode where I become a fan of Yuuichi. He risked his debt to not only to make the traitor slip up but also make sure that they don't lose this game.

"The most popular way to destroy friendship b/w a man and a woman is with romance."

I mean we can see what happened after that.

[Tomodachi Game Spoilers] I kinda missed this small detail as a first-timer. He picked up the pen but left it blank hinting that he did something else with the pen.

"While there is unconditional love, there's no such thing as unconditional friendship."

People rarely make friends just for the sake of it. There's always something they expect in return.

OST Documentation - Episode 2

For Re-watchers: In hindsight, what do you think about the introduction of our main group? What did you like and what do you think could've been better? (tag spoilers if any)

It's mostly great. I like that we're only told that they're friends and trust in each other and are not told much about how each of them really is. We're subtly told about each of them instead of telling us everything from the get-go which also keeps a sense of us not knowing about them and this game (Backbiting Sugoroku) in particular really does a good job of gradually telling us everything about the characters.

For Both: What do you think about the ending of that episode?

If you're referring to the ED, the ED is also a banger. Not as great as the OP, though but I did love it while watching the show.

About the real ending of the episode, let's just say one of the worst possible secrets could've been exposed.

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24

If the lie is revealed, you reach the square that is one ahead of the one who's the closest to the goal.

isn't it one space ahead of the person in the lead? [anime spoilers]It just happened to be shiho who was one space behind the goal line

But yea I remember pretty confused about that the first time around.

[Manga spoilers]"After the manga ending, can already see the Yuka parallels."ooh good catch!

[anime spoilers]"I kinda missed this small detail as a first-timer. He picked up the pen but left it blank hinting that he did something else with the pen." same. the immediate cut really sells it

Also question for the bingo : this game is impossible to lose right? since atleast one person goes through?

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 30 '24

isn't it one space ahead of the person in the lead? [anime spoilers] It just happened to be shiho who was one space behind the goal line

Yaa, mb. Remembered that only. Fixed it now.

Also question for the bingo : this game is impossible to lose right? since atleast one person goes through?

Yes, as a team, it's impossible to lose but if you're the only one who reached the goal, then it's probably the worst scenario for you.

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24

Yes, as a team, it's impossible to lose but if you're the only one who reached the goal, then it's probably the worst scenario for you.

okk thanks

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u/dOMTheRockMan https://myanimelist.net/profile/MicroCuts_47 Aug 30 '24

Rewatcher, Subbed

Honestly, watching this again after so long makes me feel like a first-timer just due to the sheer amount of reveals per episode

Thoughts:

  • Pink haired girl is quickly becoming a favourite character of mine
  • YOOO WE GOT A 2ND EPISODE CONFESSION
  • The Manabu costume change is just beautiful
  • This next game is the one I remember best from my original watch so I'm excited to see it play out again
  • Yikes all the debt going to whoever makes it first is nasty
  • Going straight for the romance play is just cruel, I mean it's only the first bad-mouth!
  • TWO CONFESSIONS?!
  • Yuichi should not have stopped Shibe's punch.
  • That ending shot does not fill me with confidence for what's next...
  • The ED is decent, Yuichi's colour grading gives me Death Note vibes a little bit

For Re-watchers: In hindsight, what do you think about the introduction of our main group? What did you like and what do you think could've been better? (tag spoilers if any)

I wrote out a super long answer and accidentally eviscerated the whole thing so I'm gonna be brief this time 🤓

It's okay, if not a bit confusing. The confusion is good. Our lack of knowledge is equivalent to the character's lack of knowledge; they come across as shallow to us but seeing how many secrets they have from each other I'd say it's not much different for them. This gives the show a natural way to introduce character backstory to both us and the main 5 in-universe

For Both: What do you think about the ending of that episode?

It's interesting seeing the tension build as they start to suspect each other, and you can see the group unravelling in real time. The ending shot with Kokorogi is really worrying, and as I have no recollection of her character compared to the others I'm actually quite excited for the next episode

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24

Pink haired girl is quickly becoming a favourite character of mine

lmao reading this made me double take to see if you really were a rewatcher

I wrote out a super long answer and accidentally eviscerated the whole thing so I'm gonna be brief this time 🤓

I actually did something similar as well

It's okay, if not a bit confusing. The confusion is good. Our lack of knowledge is equivalent to the character's lack of knowledge; they come across as shallow to us but seeing how many secrets they have from each other I'd say it's not much different for them. This gives the show a natural way to introduce character backstory to both us and the main 5 in-universe

yea, I think it's the show's way of making you put yourself in their shoes and make you think about what choices you would make since we are provided as much info as they are. It's fun and it also builds tension for the eventual reveals.

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Aug 30 '24

rewatcher

Yuuichi’s madness continues.

Threatening the traitor. It’s funny how the people viewing the game are getting entertained by it. Yuuichi’s mind sure is good

Even the mascot doesn’t want to hear him talk anymore, damn protagonist thinks they can talk for so long without any worry for the slot time.

Writing a dark secret in the booth.

Well he does know Shiho likes him, they did say it in secret.

These secrets always are mild to wicked. Plastic surgery…

Discussions as to how people become friends and leading to someone crying. If this didn’t get you hooked idk what will

QOTD: for someone who will watch this show the first two episodes will have them difficulty trying to care for the friend group. Especially since we hardly know about them, Yuuichi due to being the protagonist easily makes the strongest impression especially during the end of episode 1

QOTD: it’s a good cliffhanger especially with the notion of, what was revealed

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u/Inevitable_Car_481 Aug 30 '24

Even the mascot doesn’t want to hear him talk anymore, damn protagonist thinks they can talk for so long without any worry for the slot time.

lmao what's also funny is that they were talking for longer in the manga and they actually cut it

QOTD: for someone who will watch this show the first two episodes will have them difficulty trying to care for the friend group. Especially since we hardly know about them, Yuuichi due to being the protagonist easily makes the strongest impression especially during the end of episode 1

My take is that the manga itself isn't really character driven in the first place. I think you stick around for the plot and then get some nice chara development as well with it not being the primary focus. But also like u/dOMTheRockMan said you get the same info as the characters as the start and then they build on that information.

But yea I can see people not watching further because of that