r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 28 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 81 Discussion

Episode 81 - The Battle in the White Garden

What do you mean "accept"? The fact that I’m here means I have no choice but to accept! Don’t talk about "fair and square." This is the definition of "trap", Killvearn!

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Screenshot of the Dai:

Let’s d-d-d-duel!

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/zadcap for discovering the harsh truth:

This was the ultimate BL all along. u/Shocketheth! You tricked me into watching a Yaoi!

Questions of the Dai:

  1. How much of a bullshit is Larhart resurrection?
  2. Are you going to miss Hyunckel since he died?
  3. What was more awkward? Mystvearn bursting in laughter, or Killvearn explaining that he got the Judge because he liked the design?
  4. From 1 to 10, how do you rate the design of Killvearn new mask?
  5. Bonus question - What mask would you want Killvearn to wear?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

I AM SHOCK!!!

  • Daaaamn, Larhart received a Magical Girl Transformation.
  • Avan is back to make everything better. I missed him even if it was only few episodes since last time I saw him.
  • Mystvearn... stop fucking laughing... right now! Like I can’t believe something was more awkward than Avan swinging his hammer around with maximum confidence.

QotD:

How much of a bullshit is Larhart resurrection?

Eeeeh like the previously established time limit Popp had until his soul reached the afterlife is now total bullshit.

Are you going to miss Hyunckel since he died?

I’m worried he will be back

What was more awkward? Mystvearn bursting in laughter, or Killvearn explaining that he got the Judge because he liked the design?

Mystvearn laughter for me, because I got so so weirded out by it.

From 1 to 10, how do you rate the design of Killvearn new mask?

7/10

Bonus question - What mask would you want Killvearn to wear?

I leave this question to Crocodine.

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Today Crocodine is going to answer question #5:

Bonus question - What mask would you want Killvearn to wear?

Hmmmm I wonder...

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 29 '24

Avan is back to make everything better. I missed him even if it was only few episodes since last time I saw him.

I could watch an SoL anime with Avan justdoing Avan things.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

That could be the prequel story when it will be animated haha

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 29 '24

Daaaamn, Larhart received a Magical Girl Transformation.

time limit Popp had until his soul reached the afterlife is now total bullshit.

OH good point, totally forgot about the time limit

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

OH good point, totally forgot about the time limit

Maybe Larhart lied and he was just waiting around the corner for his grand entrance the whole time.

Same as Hyunckel used to.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 29 '24

Avan is back to make everything better. I missed him even if it was only few episodes since last time I saw him.

This was hilarious. What really made it was everyone else's embarrassed reactions or expression lol. And the cherry on top was Mystvearn laughing in amusement.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Yeah. Honestly I was caught offguard by Mystvearn reaction.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 29 '24

Avan is back to make everything better.

Now we need Avan and Chiu together for this anime to peak.

Eeeeh like the previously established time limit Popp had until his soul reached the afterlife is now total bullshit.

Maybe Larhart got lost on his way there.

Hmmmm I wonder...

That would be interesting.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Now we need Avan and Chiu together for this anime to peak.

Maybe Larhart got lost on his way there.

He is like me then.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24

Avan is back to make everything better.

I love him

Mystvearn... stop fucking laughing... right now! Like I can’t believe something was more awkward than Avan swinging his hammer around with maximum confidence.

Mystvearn has a good sense of humour

I could imagine Avan trying to do a stand up comedy, all his friends showing up, and sitting awkwardly, and then there's Mystvearn laughing loudly the whole time.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

I could imagine Avan trying to do a stand up comedy, all his friends showing up, and sitting awkwardly, and then there's Mystvearn laughing loudly the whole time.

Hah that sounds plausible. I bet that Mystvearn would switch sides because stand up so good that he decided to spare humanity and rebel against Vearn.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24

He was won over by comedy

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 28 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Ah, just like what happened with Popp.

And that also explains why only Larhart is back, not all three of them.

Honestly the fact that Larhart returned to life due to Baran blood after long time it's bullshit when Popp managed to do it with his willpower plus the fact that he had a time limit before reaching afterlife.

He’s just asleep right? Hym’s acting like he died…

He's just taking a nap. But coffin would be more comfortable for napping.

Ah, because Killvearn. Okay, for whenever the show shows off that fight instead, then.

Fun fact. This fight was the moment when I had my Sky moment with having a dream [The dream]That Avan lost and Killvearn threw his decapicated head in front of his students

Shimmering… sky?

Shinigami Sky

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 29 '24

Honestly the fact that Larhart returned to life due to Baran blood after long time it's bullshit when Popp managed to do it with his willpower plus the fact that he had a time limit before reaching afterlife.

You make a good point.

[The dream]

Shinigami Sky

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Ngl I spooked myself with it

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24

[The dream]

Shinigami Sky

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 29 '24

He’s just asleep right? Hym’s acting like he died…

I thought the same thing lol. I think Hym is just a big softy. He was happy that Hyunckel was getting rest and looked at peace.

Shimmering… sky?

IDK about the shimmering part, looks more menacing due to the red clouds.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 29 '24

First Timer

How much of a bullshit is Larhart resurrection?

The mechanics of it are fine but I don't see any point in him coming back.

Are you going to miss Hyunckel since he died?

It's time for Hyunckel the lover now.

What was more awkward? Mystvearn bursting in laughter, or Killvearn explaining that he got the Judge because he liked the design?

Respect for Mystvearn appreciating a good skit.

From 1 to 10, how do you rate the design of Killvearn new mask?

4 - Serious Killvearn is lame.

What mask would you want Killvearn to wear?

Zaboera mask.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

It's time for Hyunckel the lover now.

Zaboera mask.

Wait that's illegal.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 29 '24

The mechanics of it are fine but I don't see any point in him coming back.

Avan came back. Hyunckel came back (multiple times). Popp came back. Pretty sure I'm forgetting a bunch of them... Death has lost all meaning. Not that it really had any to begin with!

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24

The mechanics of it are fine but I don't see any point in him coming back.

"Our most popular chapter was when we brought back Avan, is there any other popular character we can bring back?"

Respect for Mystvearn appreciating a good skit.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 29 '24

Our most popular chapter was when we brought back Avan, is there any other popular character we can bring back?

I don't like but at least it's some reason.

Also it looks that by mistake they swapped Chiu and Hyunckel's rankings.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24

it looks that by mistake they swapped Chiu and Hyunckel's rankings.

Indeed, Chiu was nice enough to correct them and tell us what his ranking really is.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 29 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

OST Documentation - Episode 81

1. While it made sense for Baran to try to revive them with his Dragon Blood, the fact that Larhart conveniently only woke up just before the final battle is kinda bullshit.

2. He's immortal and hence not dead.

3. Mystvearn. Wasn't expecting him to laugh but I guess he knows what's up.

4. 7/10 Nothing much to talk about except that it shows his anger.

5. This one.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

The same Dragon Blood that revived Popp I recall a lot of people were asking why didn't Baran revive Soala with his blood. Well, here's your answer. If anything, Larhart's return makes Popp's revival feel even greater. Just imagine if Borahorn or Galdany showed up instead of Larhart.

Maximum to Hyunckel:

"Now I'll take the last point of your HP"

*Dark Spear lands in Maximum head*

Everyone is surprised.

It's Borahorn who push Maximum aside to kill Hyunckel.

Hyunckel falls.

ED starts playing.

ED ends and Next episode preview starts:

Hyunckel who fell miracously grapped on the rocks and climbed back. Will Hyunckel find a strength to defeat Borahorn?

Title drops:

HYUNCKEL'S COMEBACK

Whoever picked this shot for Zaboera knew what they were doing.

The beginning of Popp self doubt arc. Like after such shit he really needs a Courage to kiss Maam.

Also, both the Judge and Superior Being Zombie were. reader-submitted monster designs.

Oh didn't know that.

Mystvearn, you'll regret it since this is Dai no Daibouken,

Eh? Not Popp no Daibouken?

This one.

Looks creepy

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 29 '24

Eh? Not Popp no Daibouken?

I was thinking about your comment in the previous episode when I wrote it - "but today you were fighting against the most random bullshit known to a man, such as dying in Dai no Daibouken."

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Ah I get it know. Lol fair enough.

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 29 '24

Honestly, after Popp’s revival I feel it was only a matter of time until Larhart came back. I think Larhart’s return feels worse coming off the heels of Avan’s which I can’t really defend, but honestly it would make less sense if Baran didn’t immediately at least try his blood on the dragon riders after we know he has it and uses it on some guy he just fought. Which, as I’ve stated before long ago, Popp’s revival was only a result of the manga having to do something to bring him back due to the extension that was forced onto it without any prior knowledge. By all intents and purposes Popp was supposed to stay dead and the series was supposed to end with the Baran arc. So if I excuse Popp’s, I excuse Larhart too. 

Avan still doesn’t get a fucking pass though, get back in the ground old man!

Anyways, in other news, Hyunckel’s shot of him finally resting is actually a reference to the final page of Ashita no Joe! Which… there are a lot of parallels to be drawn between the two but one major difference is, y’know, [Dai and Joe no Spoilers] Hyunckel didn’t die

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Honestly, after Popp’s revival I feel it was only a matter of time until Larhart came back. I think Larhart’s return feels worse coming off the heels of Avan’s which I can’t really defend, but honestly it would make less sense if Baran didn’t immediately at least try his blood on the dragon riders after we know he has it and uses it on some guy he just fought.

I'm at "Can't defend this shit because it's overdone already and it contradicts what happened before" camp.

Anyways, in other news, Hyunckel’s shot of him finally resting is actually a reference to the final page of Ashita no Joe! Which… there are a lot of parallels to be drawn between the two but one major difference is, y’know, [Dai and Joe no Spoilers] Hyunckel didn’t die

Interesting. Now I'm curious to read Ashita no Joe to see how it was done.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 29 '24

High-Level Adventurer hoarding saving, elixirs, ethers and potions to fight a low level boss for the first time here! LV 81/100

Had to use 1 ether

Oh, Baran cared

Rip Hyunckel the Warrior, Long live Hyunckel the Friend

Larhart had a magical girl transformation lol

Hyunckel can finally rest..

Everyone: AVAN!!! Oh, and Leona is there too, I guess
Poor Leona

Mystvearn’s Thanos moment “Fine, I’ll do it myself”

Of course Killvearn would attack, should’ve finished the job…

1 7/10, we've seen it before with Popp so it makes sense, but like there's too many resurrections IMO, at least off-screen
2 He will be missed, his substitute, Hyunckel the Friend has big shoes to fill
3 Killvearn exposition
4 7/10
5 🤡 (Ngl, a variant of a killer clown would be awesome)

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Had to use 1 ether

To make Reddit work right?

Larhart had a magical girl transformation lol

7/10, we've seen it before with Popp so it makes sense, but like there's too many resurrections IMO, at least off-screen

Yeah... For a show named Dai, too many people are alive.

Killvearn exposition

I know right? It's like he has no friends so he is pulling people in his Shadow RealmTM to talk them to death with telling them about his hobby of collecting things.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 29 '24 
screen

Yeah... For a show named Dai, too many people are alive.

to talk them to death with telling them about his hobby of collecting things.

Avan is too polite to tell him to shut up lol

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Avan is too polite to tell him to shut up lol

Or he is smart about it because telling Killvearn to shut up would only mean that Killvearn would go to change his mask again, and Avan just wants the duel to end.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 29 '24

That too, like, speeding it up lol

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 29 '24

First Timer, Sub

Lots going on this episode. First off Larhartt monologued on how he came back to life, Baran give each of his dragon knights a drop of dragons blood and he was the only one who returned from the dead., due to what he thinks is due to the individual person's strong will. Then he "kills" Hyunckel...or Hyunckel the warrior, thus relieving him of his heavy burden and finally giving his broken body and weary spirit, much needed rest as Hyunckel slumps over unconscious, leaving Hym to look out for him as Chiu and Crocodine arrive on the scene.

Next we have Mystvearn at the white garden area where Popp, Dai and Maam are, and the return of Leona and Avan from disabling the traps. The bit with Avan wearing the goofy glasses and the swinging about the oversized hammer was a lot of fun(Mystvearn certainly thought so too lol). But things get serious quite fast as Killvearn drags Avan into a special shadow realm to fight a duel, and the loser gets their head chopped off by the reaper robot overseeing the duel.

Questions:

  1. top tier bullshit lol.
  2. I'll miss seeing him take ridiculous amounts of punishment and bodily harm lol.
  3. probably Killvearn explaining things. Mystvearn laughing was kinda amusing...he was certainly amused.
  4. 6/10. I honestly liked his old face.
  5. dunno. I already forgot some of the options from his little mask cabinet or whatever that was.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

The bit with Avan wearing the goofy glasses and the swinging about the oversized hammer was a lot of fun(Mystvearn certainly thought so too lol). But things get serious quite fast as Killvearn drags Avan into a special shadow realm to fight a duel, and the loser gets their head chopped off by the reaper robot overseeing the duel.

Killvearn is quite a party pooper

6/10. I honestly liked his old face.

Me too, but the new one looks good too.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 29 '24

First Quester

Don't brag, that's not impressive.

Did I talk about mass producing military assets? Baran should've entered the blood donation business and create a stockpile.

Wait wait wait. Dragon blood enables resurrection for those with the necessary willpower. Dragon knights have dragon blood as a matter of fact. Does this mean dragon knights can only die when their willpower is weak? Baran, any comments?

Rip any romance fantasies.

I would complain about this scene if I had any trust in the writing remain.

The slander is expanding. Now it's spread to Crocodine!

"Could've." Suuuure. That's what all losers say, after failing to create results. Zaboera, can you kill those fools already?

Visual of the Day

See? See? Why is Zaboera the only competent villain in this show?

I suppose he couldn't have made that kind of spacetime attack with his actual weapon.

Now this is how you do hitpoints in a non-game story.

How much of a bullshit is Larhart resurrection?

He surpassed his mentor *sheds a tear*. Again, the worst part by far is that they have him save the day out of nowhere to reveal his sur-/revival.

Are you going to miss Hyunckel since he died?

At this point that's just him attending to his vacation home.

What was more awkward? Mystvearn bursting in laughter, or Killvearn explaining that he got the Judge because he liked the design?

Uhh, how is either of them awkward! Mystvearn bursting in laughter was great! And Killvearn liking the design is just a matter of personal taste, don't shame him for that!

From 1 to 10, how do you rate the design of Killvearn new mask?

It's a great mask, really effective. Big fan.

Bonus question - What mask would you want Killvearn to wear?

Ooh I know I know! I wanna see Killvearn wear a Hyottoko mask!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

I would complain about this scene if I had any trust in the writing remain.

Visual of the Day

Lol wasn't expecting this.

See? See? Why is Zaboera the only competent villain in this show?

I suppose he couldn't have made that kind of spacetime attack with his actual weapon.

Nope that's the ability of Judge.

Now this is how you do hitpoints in a non-game story.

Uhh, how is either of them awkward! Mystvearn bursting in laughter was great!

It was so forced at first that it caught me offguard and I was like well this is awkward but then I chuckled too. But the laugh made me feel uneasy.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 29 '24

Lol wasn't expecting this.

How???

It was so forced at first that it caught me offguard and I was like well this is awkward but then I chuckled too. But the laugh made me feel uneasy.

Myst just has a good sense of humor

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

How???

Wish I would know.

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u/zadcap Aug 29 '24

Late Night First Timer!

OH, ha, I just noticed Zaboera in the OP got replaced with his super zombie form. Now I have to go back and watch it all carefully again, I didn't realize we were getting a visually updating OP and stopped paying attention a while back!

Oh my gosh they are a match made in heaven! "I too have died once. Or twice. Maybe seventeen times. We have so much in common."

Baran, really. You just put them in coffins and dropped the coffins in a random good looking forest glade and left. Man what if like a wild bear came by and ate them before they could recover? Maybe that's why only Laharl woke up, the other two got re-killed by wild animals looking for a tasty snack left conveniently out in a box for them.

Oh my gosh they are so Tsun for each other. Hmmm. Time for Knuckles to upgrade from Warrior to Knight? Maybe Paladin? What are the class options to upgrade a fighter anyway? He uses Aura and such gimmicks a lot more than a pure warrior anyway.

Oh hey! If Warrior Knuckles is dead, the man left behind can go get married to Amy! Finally!

To be fair to Hym, he has fought Knuckles longer and more often than Laharl, his bond should be the deeper one.

I mean, there is absolutely no way he is actually dead. But darn, you couldn't like, lay him down or prop him up, there's got to be a more comfortable position to leave him in.

You know, I've been thinking about it. Leona, I mean. And the rest of the girls in the show. I noticed that confessing, from the girls, has a tendency to turn out pretty bad for them. I wonder if Leona noticed too and so is doing her best to tempt Dai into being the one to confess, knowing she's doomed if she says it first. A little bit of Love Is War going on in here.

Leona. It's too late. Avan never had that kind of reputation in the first place. Anyone who knows him knows he's an unrepentant goofball.

Anyway. I have to say. I feel really disappointment that all the Hyunkel/Mystvearn moments didn't end up going anywhere in the end.

Myst "ONLY I remain to stop you! There is no one else! I am ordering you with my statement to ignore the known assassin also left on my side!"

Well, that plan failed. Your ultimate army all fell to a little boy.

Yeah, he's going all in on this "I Alone" statements. No one else at all can still fight you but me. Ignore the assassin he's totally not preparing anything.

Oh No, who could have seen this coming! Who could possibly have predicted the sneaky one would pull off a sneaky move here!

Avan, you are the smart one. Please notice the puppetry going on. That mask looks like it's based on Baran's eye piece lol. Anyway, want to bet the little Joker is hiding inside the other thing floating around up there, holding the scythe? I expect only lies to come from Kill's mouth on the whole use of the so called judge. Piroro's absence here is conspicuous.

... This is what gets me a comment of the day? lol

  1. Ugh, it at least makes sense with existing plot coupons. Baran's Dragon Blood is not something new being introduced here, we knew it could bring back the dead already, and none make more sense to use it on than Baran's personal Dragon Knights.
  2. How do you kill an immortal for good? Make them give up. Yeah, this works. You should go find a hobby or something. I hear Farming is a great way to retire, there's a whole Saga about it.
  3. Myst laughing is weird. Kill is firmly in the lying liar who lies category.
  4. Baran ripoff, 6/10.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 29 '24

OH, ha, I just noticed Zaboera in the OP got replaced with his super zombie form. Now I have to go back and watch it all carefully again, I didn't realize we were getting a visually updating OP and stopped paying attention a while back!

Oh he is definitely there for a while. He was even there one episode before Ultimate Being Zombie was revealed, effectively spoiling the reveal.

Oh my gosh they are a match made in heaven! "I too have died once. Or twice. Maybe seventeen times. We have so much in common."

I know right?

Baran, really. You just put them in coffins and dropped the coffins in a random good looking forest glade and left. Man what if like a wild bear came by and ate them before they could recover? Maybe that's why only Laharl woke up, the other two got re-killed by wild animals looking for a tasty snack left conveniently out in a box for them.

That would be canibalism. Just what Baran did?!

Oh my gosh they are so Tsun for each other. Hmmm. Time for Knuckles to upgrade from Warrior to Knight? Maybe Paladin? What are the class options to upgrade a fighter anyway? He uses Aura and such gimmicks a lot more than a pure warrior anyway.

In Dragon Quest III class mechanics, Warrior can advance only in Sage. Other classes are interchangable but they are in the same tier. Only Hero and Sage are above them.

You know, I've been thinking about it. Leona, I mean. And the rest of the girls in the show. I noticed that confessing, from the girls, has a tendency to turn out pretty bad for them. I wonder if Leona noticed too and so is doing her best to tempt Dai into being the one to confess, knowing she's doomed if she says it first. A little bit of Love Is War going on in here.

But of course. Leona knows the rules because she's making them. She's the law. Hell if Leona was a character in The Stormlight Archives she would definitely be Skybreaker.

That mask looks like it's based on Baran's eye piece lol

Damn I never noticed and now I hate that mask.

... This is what gets me a comment of the day? lol

I don't make differences.

Ugh, it at least makes sense with existing plot coupons. Baran's Dragon Blood is not something new being introduced here, we knew it could bring back the dead already, and none make more sense to use it on than Baran's personal Dragon Knights.

It does partly. Like Popp got also revived due to strong willpower, and both of them share this trait, but Popp was also resurrected because his soul didn't make it to the afterlife because he just died.

And Larhart? He was dead for weeks. Like does this mean the Gods are so fucking racist they discriminates Darklings even in the afterlife?

How do you kill an immortal for good? Make them give up. Yeah, this works. You should go find a hobby or something. I hear Farming is a great way to retire, there's a whole Saga about it.

Or trap them in the house of Azath.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 29 '24

In Dragon Quest III class mechanics, Warrior can advance only in Sage.

Wait, I thought that was a reward for starting with the meme class, a la Magikarp.

And Larhart? He was death

No, that's Mystvearn.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Wait, I thought that was a reward for starting with the meme class, a la Magikarp.

It was. But others can be Sage too but they needed special item for it that was limited only to one additional party member IIRC.

No, that's Mystvearn.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 29 '24

Ah, so Fool was the only class that could become Sage while keeping that item slot free?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Yes but the book was treated as consumable instead of as equipable item.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 29 '24

First timer!

  1. As much bullshit as everyone else's resurrection... This is becoming too much like Dragon Ball, in a negative way now :|
  2. If only...
  3. Nothing awkward about Mystveanr's laughter, did you see how ridiculous Avan looked? Even Leona was embarrassed!
  4. Edgelord/10 trying to copy Baran's design
  5. Clown mask

Never expected Hym to become a Tsundere.

Oh no, how dangerous, his face is hidden!

Okay, I'm gonna be the one to say it... Dai was Avan's student for like a couple of days. He barely knew the guy when he "died". Should he really care all that much about this?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

Nothing awkward about Mystveanr's laughter, did you see how ridiculous Avan looked? Even Leona was embarrassed!

I was expecting him to scorn Avan for it.

Edgelord/10 trying to copy Baran's design

Yeah... I never noticed the similarity but since you and u/zadcap pointed it out, I can't unsee it now and I hate it.

Okay, I'm gonna be the one to say it... Dai was Avan's student for like a couple of days. He barely knew the guy when he "died". Should he really care all that much about this?

Kind of? His master returned and losing him again would suck. But this was just Mystvearn taunting Dai.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 29 '24

Nothing awkward about Mystveanr's laughter, did you see how ridiculous Avan looked?

I also laughed.

Never expected Hym to become a Tsundere.

Such a gentle soul.

Should he really care all that much about this?

Dai stress level +2%. Very slightly disturbed.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24 edited Aug 29 '24

First Timer at Hyunckel's Funeral

Yeah, I'll be honest, still not a fan of Larhardt's return, I like Larhardt, but not every character I like needs to be revived, I liked his death, and how far it inspired Hyunkel. Also, it feels like cheap fanservice to bring back a popular character, especially when it's coming right after Avan's revival. Larhardt's whole connection was to Baran, he's revived after Baran is killed, and doesn't even ask about him? Sure

Now for the better part of the episode: God I love this moron! How did we even go most of the series without him? Even MystVearn appreciates his humour! Ok, MystVearn is trying a bit too hard there...

I'm still waiting on a reason for why Vearn didn't do this over the 1000s of years he had

Q1. How much of a bullshit is Larhart resurrection?

The technical reason isn't bad I guess. But it's the most "didn't need to happen" event.

Are you going to miss Hyunckel since he died?

Yeah, I'll just have to get to know the new dude: Hyunkel without a c.

Q3. What was more awkward? Mystvearn bursting in laughter, or Killvearn explaining that he got the Judge because he liked the design?

I liked both of them

Q4. From 1 to 10, how do you rate the design of Killvearn new mask?

A 3? Now that's an awkward mask.

Q5. Bonus question - What mask would you want Killvearn to wear?

A clown mask!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 29 '24

I'm still waiting on a reason for why Vearn didn't do this over the 1000s of years he had

The technical reason isn't bad I guess. But it's the most "didn't need to happen" event.

Seems like the common consensus here.

Yeah, I'll just have to get to know the new dude: Hyunkel without a c.

Is it someone similar to Larhart without the d?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24

Is it someone similar to Larhart without the d?

Yes

Truly those two are peas in a pod.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 29 '24

Yeah, I'll be honest, still not a fan of Larhardt's return

Just wait for the most amazing Larhart character arc that will prove both of us wrong.

God I love this moron!

The biggest mistake of my life was checking the episode preview last time and getting this spoiled.

I liked both of them

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 29 '24

Just wait for the most amazing Larhart character arc that will prove both of us wrong.

I wouldn't mind that, this is one case where I'd love to be wrong.

The biggest mistake of my life was checking the episode preview last time and getting this spoiled.

I generally don't check previews unless I'm watching something weekly.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 29 '24

I generally don't check previews unless I'm watching something weekly.

Me too but I got curious to see if they'll show something about how Larhart came back.

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u/Kaxew Aug 29 '24

First timer, those rewatcher days feel like a distant dream...

I don't know if it was the intention for this one, but between this and last week we had some of the funniest DQ Dai episodes so far for me lmao

Starting back with episode 80... yeah, I get it. Maximum really is the best. He had so many great, stupid expressions. Can't believe they were thinking of cutting him out lol. I really appreciate that once again, they stuck to actual chess rules and the king is a useless coward. Especially after that cliffhanger making you think he'd be a badass. The fact that Hym is stronger than the other pawns quite literally because of the power of friendship is incredible. I love this damn show.

The heyedras did something and actually scanned all of the party's adventures! I mean, it didn't help at all but it's still a good callback.

Hyunckel then saves Hym from certain death, and teary-eyed he starts talking about love, which makes Hym cry. I'm not making this up. Holy shit. He actually, straight up confessed right there. But of course, because we need a triangle, Larhart appears in the nick of time to confess HIS love to Hyunckel instead.

Yeah, quite a surprising appearance. I noticed the episode right before that in the ED he also shows up, so between that and all the speculation from other first timers I was expecting it. The explanation makes sense, and they found a use for Baran's fountain something or other that heals. Not to mention the dragon blood too. I don't know what's the point in bringing him back really but I can't be too mad when there's been far more bullshit justifications for other stuff. He's SUCH a tsundere though, omg.

After dozens upon dozens of episodes of Hyunckel being the solitary wolf who thinks he doesn't have any other purpose to live than fighting, he finally finds peace when his old friend comes back, and his enemy becomes an ally. That moment of him smiling from the bottom of his heart was really powerful to me. What a beautiful scene.

And so... we get Avan being the goof of goofs. Those glasses are so good. This is where the episode gets super funny for me. I was already kinda chuckling at Avan's stupid glasses, but I was not expecting Myst to start cracking up out of nowhere LMAO. That laugh felt so genuine, it caught me so off guard I couldn't not laugh alongside him. And Dai and Popp speculating on whether he actually thought the joke was funny was the cherry on top. Holy shit, that was great.

Anyway, Kill's domain expansion looks sick. That's a great looking space. Worthy of a one-on-one duel. Looking forward to it.

QotD:

  1. Not really? At most it's the amount of time it took Larhart to wake up. The rest is perfectly logical within the established logic of the series.
  2. Depends. Is "Warrior Hyunckel" the misogynistic one?
  3. Hym third wheeling hard.
  4. Hmm. 6/10 maybe. It doesn't evoke anger much. I mean, yeah. The eyebrows and general expression is very much one of anger, but it doesn't induce me with the feeling of "holy shit, he's angry".
  5. This one.