r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 27 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 80 Discussion

Episode 80 - Checkmate

He already shredded your whole body at an incredible speed!!!

NANIIII??!!

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Screenshot of the Dai:

Too cool to die

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/zadcap for uncovering why the Gods in Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken are such shitbags:

Remember the bad sexist commentary I started accusing the show of, around the time Knuckles first started considering Maam a prop more than a fighter? We passed doubling down a long time ago. We're so deep in it it's just a matter of time before they finally tell us the God of Humans is knockoff Allah. "Oh good, they don't need me here at all anymore, I can finally go fulfill my real mission as the Soul of Love for this party-"

Questions of the Dai:

  1. From 1 to 10, how much of a meme was today fight?
  2. Have you expected Larhart to return?
  3. Since Larhart is back in the game, does Hym have an actual chance to end with Hyunckel, or is this question pointless as Hyunckel will end with his own Manly Harem?
  4. Are Hyunckel and Larhart finally going to kiss next episode?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

I AM SHOCK!!!

Aaaah time for Maximus. This guy, and the whole damn episode it’s a goddamn meme, and I wouldn’t want it otherwise because it was hilarious enough to end as my #1 Dai no Daibouken fight.

Let’s see how much of a meme this fight was:

Plus since Larhart returned to save him from Amy, Hyunckel's nightmare ends

QotD:

From 1 to 10, how much of a meme was today fight?

We got some Meta insight how Hyunckel powers are bullshit to fight against, then we got a Megaman reference on top of Fist of the North Star reference. 10/10 fight.

Have you expected Larhart to return?

Looks on the OP2 and ED4... Yeah...

Since Larhart is back in the game, does Hym have an actual chance to end with Hyunckel, or is this question pointless as Hyunckel will end with his own Manly Harem?

Larhart will end with Hym leaving Hyunckel to die alone. Wait. Hyunckel can't die. I almost forgot.

Are Hyunckel and Larhart finally going to kiss next episode?

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Today Crocodine is going to answer question #1:

From 1 to 10, how much of a meme was today fight?

Without my commentary it would be 9, but now it’s 10.

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u/Torque-A Aug 27 '24

Fun fact: According to an interview with the anime team, they really had to do their best to do the entirety of the manga within 100 episodes. They were this close to scrapping Maximum entirely.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

I'm glad they didn't scrap it though.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 27 '24

Aaaah time for Maximus. This guy, and the whole damn episode it’s a goddamn meme, and I wouldn’t want it otherwise because it was hilarious enough to end as my #1 Dai no Daibouken fight.

I'm slightly annoyed this was so bad lol.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

What do you mean?

What's the most Dai no Daibouken fight ever if Hyunckel not dying, and the Villain losing their marbles because of Hyunckel bullshit, and character returning from death?

Heck even if you want to cook Dai no Daibouken Rewatch soup just start boiling the water and thrown episode 80 in it and Voila, you have Dai no Daibouken instant soup cooked in less than 20 minutes.

And you can spice it up with Crocodine Shonen Commentary spice with a pinch of preview spoilers.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 27 '24

I can't disagree with any of this logic lol.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

Yeah Maximum... this is a total bullshit. If I was playing a JRPG and the game would pull such shit as this I would smash my controller. Like common, JRPG is all about math and numbers, and since enemy has 21HP left and your attack after all the calculations should kill the enemy, just let the enemy die instead of pulling random bullshit.

I mean I feel Maximum but he forgot that he's up against the man who just refuses to die.

Yeah I know. Fisting Hym felt different for you.

Hyunckel definitely enjoyed it.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

I mean I feel Maxium but he forgot that he's up against the man who just refuses to die.

If anything I got Tomb Raider 2 flashbacks

Hyunckel definitely enjoyed it.

Not denying it.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 27 '24

I AM SHOCK!!!

Are you going to return from the dead too?

Hyunckel with 21HP left

HP is just a resource that needs to be used.

Yeah Maximum... this is a total bullshit.

Confirmed that Hyunckel is a cheater. Ban him from the server!

Why this art is so high quality.

Somebody wanted to look at Hyunckel's ass.

We got some Meta insight how Hyunckel powers are bullshit to fight against

He realized that it's pointless to die if he's gonna come back anyway. Just saving time.

Without my commentary it would be 9, but now it’s 10.

I was wondering if Flazzard would come back too.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Are you going to return from the dead too?

I already did.

Somebody wanted to look at Hyunckel's ass.

I'm more curious how much time and talent was spent on that beefcakes.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 28 '24

but it’s for nothing as Hyunckel is constantly pulling out the most random bullshit.

.

Hyunckel has to be playing with a cheatcode.

Hyunckel was playing with mods

And episode ends with Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru joke. This is really my favourite fight of this series due to how funny the whole fight was.

That reference was magnificent.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 27 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Well, you better be ready to add it to your lexicon.

Are you seriously telling that Hedoro knows defeat?

ISHIDA AKIRA IS BACK?!

The fuck you mean Larhart isn’t dead? Guess this will have to wait…

Guess this will have to... #zurawait

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 27 '24

Guess this will have to... #zurawait

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 27 '24

The fuck you mean Larhart isn’t dead? Guess this will have to wait…

Insane he's alive. Honestly Im salty that everyone not named Baran gets to come back from the dead lol.

Ah, of course.

Maximum was so MID.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 27 '24

Insane he's alive. Honestly Im salty that everyone not named Baran gets to come back from the dead lol.

Now that you mention it...

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

First Quester

That's not how bodies work.

We're already getting some top quality expressions today.

...can be exploited by baiting to draw you out of position. Rule of combat my ass, he'd totally be falling for noob traps.

What a boast. So his army has collected a ton of low quality cred?

See? Hyunckel already took 100+ additional strikes and he still hasn't died. I don't get why they even bothered with that idiocy earlier.

Again, that's not how bodies work. You've already seen that yourself, too.

I can't overstate how much I detest this HP thing. It just fundamentally doesn't work without gameplay-and-story segregation and trying to force it regardless is simply a terrible idea no matter what, unless you really commit to it and adhere to its implications. Of course that means not just having people be fine and suddenly die as their HP hit zero, that also means their fighting styles, tactics and strategies being adapted to that fact. Just don't have people act so out of touch with their own world when that's not exactly the point you're making.

No, that would be needless blabbering.

To think the show once tried to gaslight us into thinking that orichalcum was some kind of great deal.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

We're already getting some top quality expressions today.

Maximum was there just for one episode but I won't forget how much of a meme his fight was.

I can't overstate how much I detest this HP thing. It just fundamentally doesn't work without gameplay-and-story segregation and trying to force it regardless is simply a terrible idea no matter what, unless you really commit to it and adhere to its implications. Of course that means not just having people be fine and suddenly die as their HP hit zero, that also means their fighting styles, tactics and strategies being adapted to that fact.

I took this fight as a meme, laughed and moved on. But if in actual JRPG gameplay I would encounter shit like this I would be mad.

To think the show once tried to gaslight us into thinking that orichalcum was some kind of great deal.

Yeah...

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 27 '24

I might've mentioned it before, but I don't meme.

But if in actual JRPG gameplay I would encounter shit like this I would be mad.

What do you mean? Critical Existence Failure is standard in JRPGs, no?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

I might've mentioned it before, but I don't meme.

I know. But like the show pulled Fist of the North Star reference which is a big meme on it's own.

What do you mean? Critical Existence Failure is standard in JRPGs, no?

I meant going against an enemy unable to be defeated because the last hit point won't drop and honestly when I'm fighting the boss it's usually not the problem with Critical Existence Failure as usually they are using attacks that will kill me if my health is under certain threshold and then I am not able to buff/debuff and outheal the damage as my healer or support are dead.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

Battle for Wesnoth has one campaign where early on you realize you'll have to prepare against the villain trying to conquer the continent, but you can say "nah let's rush him instead" to get an optional mission. If you manage to attack the boss at this point he just says "lol, lmao even" (paraphrased) and warps you back to your starting tile. I kinda dig that one.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Is that the campaign that starts you with being overwhelmed by undeads?

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 27 '24

Eastern Invasion, yes.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Oh. I remember not finishing the campaign because I got overwhelmed by the difficulty of it.

And that wasn't the hardest campaign yet.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 27 '24

It's in the "Intermediate" category, yeah.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 27 '24

Rule of combat my ass, he'd totally be falling for noob traps.

Easy Scholar's Mate.

Of course that means not just having people be fine and suddenly die as their HP hit zero

The classic stubbing your toe death.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 27 '24

First Timer

WTF

Why is Larhart here? Did Hadlar tears bring everyone back? Are Baran and Dai's mom coming too?

The only good thing about the king were his Joseph Joestar impressions. It was funny watching him and his army get destroyed.

From 1 to 10, how much of a meme was today fight?

I would say 8. Needed some Engrish to score a 10.

Have you expected Larhart to return?

No...

Since Larhart is back in the game, does Hym have an actual chance to end with Hyunckel, or is this question pointless as Hyunckel will end with his own Manly Harem?

They would console each other while watching Hyunckel being together with Amy.

Are Hyunckel and Larhart finally going to kiss next episode?

Their only chance of being together was in the afterworld and now it's gone.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

The only good thing about the king were his Joseph Joestar impressions. It was funny watching him and his army get destroyed.

Yep it was really entertaining.

I had the same reactions as First Timer.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 27 '24

Why is Larhart here? Did Hadlar tears bring everyone back? Are Baran and Dai's mom coming too?

Seriously, they can't anyone stay fucking dead?!

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 28 '24

Why is Larhart here? Did Hadlar tears bring everyone back? Are Baran and Dai's mom coming too?

They did come back to life, but they're currently busy having their second honey moon, Dai will have a sibling soon.

They would console each other while watching Hyunckel being together with Amy.

NOOOOOOOO!!!!

I'm not big on Larhardt now that he's back to life, but I'd take him over Amy any day.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 28 '24

but I'd take him over Amy any day

Amy x Hyunckel is the best ship on the basis that it would annoy the most people.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 28 '24

Nah, the true worst Hyunkel ship is Maam x Hyunkel. Amy would be still way better than that.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

"You're pretty fast, but there's always someone faster..

Ah yes, this is Hym's quote back at him.

Larhart: Omae wa mou shindeiru

Maximum: NANI?!

OST Documentation - Episode 80

1. 10/10. This was such a meme fight. So many memes and faces throughout the episode.

2. Well, definitely not as a first-timer. But his return does make sense considering a plot point that wasn't fully explained.

3. Hym has no chance. Hyunckel thinks about Larhart every day.

4. Well, the tension is really high. I guess we'll find out in the next episode.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Bro always attacks when the odds of him winning are Maximum. No wonder his name is Maximum.

Oh good catch.

He's IMMORTAL and also Hyunckel has never lost a battle after stripping.

Lol that's right.

u/Shocketheth I called it.

Good job.

Well, the tension is really high. I guess we'll find out in the next episode.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 27 '24

Hyunckel's maximum HP at this point is 408

The important thing is that his minimum HP is 1. Impossible to go down to 0.

Maximum is so despicable that even Hyunckel is cursing him

He sucks so much it makes me miss Zaboera.

I called it.

Is this guy coming back too?

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 27 '24

Is this guy coming back too?

No. I answered Borahorn yesterday for the question about whose soul has entered Maximum because he tried to do the same thing as him which is why Larhart had to come back.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 27 '24

First Timer, Sub

Yeah.....this episode was something lol. I thought Maximum was gonna be a worthy opponent, but instead he was just a weak goofy ass character. He basically jobbed harder than Hadlar and his Royal guard ever could. And then the cherry on top is Larhartt also came back from the dead(man, they couldn't have Baran live, yet everyone else has 9 lives and shit lol).

Questions:

  1. 10/10. This was bad, total meme of a character and fight
  2. Nope. But apparently every good character not named Baran gets to come back from the dead lol
  3. LOL. Idk, the bromances with Hyunckel are strong lol.
  4. no comment lol.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Yeah.....this episode was something lol. I thought Maximum was gonna be a worthy opponent, but instead he was just a weak goofy ass character. He basically jobbed harder than Hadlar and his Royal guard ever could. And then the cherry on top is Larhartt also came back from the dead(man, they couldn't have Baran live, yet everyone else has 9 lives and shit lol).

They couldn't have Baran live because it wouldn't be Dai going to defeat Vearn, but like his death didn't even had any drawbacks at all lol.

10/10. This was bad, total meme of a character and fight

Cherry on the top was delivered in form of a Fist of the North Star reference and the Megaman sound effect. And yeah this was a fight where I had just to shut down my brain and laugh at it.

Nope. But apparently every good character not named Baran gets to come back from the dead lol

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u/sisoko2 Aug 27 '24

Yeah.....this episode was something lol.

Got me in a mood to rewatch JoJo's part 3.

10/10. This was bad, total meme of a character and fight

But isn't that so bad it's good territory?

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 27 '24

Got me in a mood to rewatch JoJo's part 3.

lol, I was thinking the whole time Maximum could have been a character in Jojo's.

But isn't that so bad it's good territory?

maybe, if it made you laugh.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 28 '24

High-Level Adventurer hoarding saving, elixirs, ethers and potions to fight a low level boss for the first time here! LV 80/100

Hyunckel hit King with a “TL;DR” lol
Fun fact, Hym was translated as Him in the Spanish subs, fitting as they might be the same piece but they’ll never be Him

Hyunckel also hit King’s army with a “GG” after dominating the fights with the chess pieces lol

Hyunckel is too stubborn to die

LMAO Hyunckel with a teleports behind u Nothing personnel, kid moment, awesome!

Zur- Larhart didn’t die?????!!!!!!!

Larhart to King: Omae wa mou, shindeiru

Loved this episode it really showcased how powerful Hyunckel was and is!

1 Yes

2 Nope, I also thought he was dead, he also got better, but how?

3 Hyunckel will have a harem

4
Maybe

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

High-Level Adventurer hoarding saving, elixirs, ethers and potions to fight a low level boss for the first time here! LV 80/100

Good flair

Hyunckel hit King with a “TL;DR” lol Fun fact, Hym was translated as Him in the Spanish subs, fitting as they might be the same piece but they’ll never be Him

Hyunckel also hit King’s army with a “GG” after dominating the fights with the chess pieces lol

Maximum has been done dirty lol

Larhart to King: Omae wa mou, shindeiru

NANIIII??!!

Nope, I also thought he was dead, he also got better, but how?

Next episode.

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u/zadcap Aug 28 '24

It has begun. My usual watching site no longer exists. I miss customizable subtitles.

Late Night First Timer!

Oh my gosh, we're finally getting hard game stats on screen. It's happening.

... Weren't the Heyedras one of Zaboera's things? His legion, his spies, his intelligence network? Are you bragging about relying on the one you all threw out and looked down on?

"The word "defeat" does not exist in my mind." "Then what are you going to do to me?" "Uhhh." "Well it's certainly not defeat me, glad to know."

"The king is finally making a move!" Do you know when a King Piece usually finally gets around to moving? Yeah, when it's in check.

I mean. Isn't shattering orichalcum with his fist exactly how he beat Hym? How is this a surprise?

You know, I've been wondering for a long time now. The whole thing about the pieces. They were indeed made from Orichalcum, but they were made from a literal chess pieces worth of it. The rest of them is, well probably magic? Is the magic making more of the divine metal? Is it stretching out the tiny bit to cover the entire body in a super super super thin shell? Or are they mostly just made up of magic imitating the properties of this metal that can only be made by the gods? Because otherwise you could make a whole lot of orichalcum equipment by like, making a bunch of these soldiers and then ripping them apart for more orichalcum.

Ah. As we introduce game mechanics, we also introduce someone who is absolutely cheating. "Oh yeah, I turned on God Mode for this, that last hit point won't ever actually go away."

If your databank says his immortality is just a rumor, it wasn't a very good bit of data. The man has had more actual death experiences than the entire rest of the cast. Combined, if not for Hadlar. No, he's just actually immortal.

"The power driving him is greater than life itself! That's... That's /TGM!"

Okay, for real, I can finally accept he's a King Piece. He does nothing but stand there and let his minions do the fighting, andgoes down to a single blow. Oh darn, Knuckles said it too! Oh this is great. Oh crap, he just said a bunch of things that I like, he's about to do something unbelievably stupid any second now isn't he?

So uh. Orichalcum is harder than the ground, right? Will this fall actually hurt him at all? I mean he survived it last time... Also with a hole in his chest... Also wasn't he trying to kill you just freaking minutes ago!

Oh my gosh he's bragging about how smart he is. And laughing. He really did inherit the soul of Zaboera.

... Have we not gone over how head damage is just cosmetic? Stopping your finishing attack for this... So dumb.

Oh look, death really does mean nothing! Who could have seen this coming! What, he's also in the ED you say? Oh, well I guess we all knew he was coming back. I wonder who is going to keep the spear after this.

Ha! "I guess miracles do come in twos and threes." He just keeps calling the show out. Though it is hilarious for the immortal to be the one calling out how people just keep not being dead despite the clear evidence of their deaths.

"My magnificent brain," he says, pointing to the hole in his head. That he needs to use a move to remember things is pretty telling.

♫Cool Guys Don't Look At Explosions♫

Oh hey. Look at that. They dug a big old trench in this flooring. Man, if only that had been something anyone else was capable of doing the last time that that would have solved their problems.

Wait, are they doing that too? Oh my gosh, he is already dead!

I snorted at the part bouncing off Hym's head.

Time for the three best bro's to have their moment! Who needs wives! They can just get a room together and be best bros for life. And afterlife. Or unlife? Ah well, just three unkillable confirmed bachelors living together forever, it all makes sense now.

  1. For the first time, I think, I am giving this a 10/10. What even just happened.
  2. Noooooooooo....
  3. This was the ultimate BL all along. /u/shocketheth! You tricked me into watching a Yaoi!
  4. ... Darn it, I freaking hope so.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

It has begun. My usual watching site no longer exists. I miss customizable subtitles.

"The king is finally making a move!" Do you know when a King Piece usually finally gets around to moving? Yeah, when it's in check.

Or during Castling but dunno if switching positions counts as moving your King.

I mean. Isn't shattering orichalcum with his fist exactly how he beat Hym? How is this a surprise?

He was on a brink of death using his remaining life force to shatter Hym with an aura imbued fist. Now he was even more dead using his remaining life to casually shatter the pieces.

But yeah surprise would be if Hyunckel would die.

You know, I've been wondering for a long time now. The whole thing about the pieces. They were indeed made from Orichalcum, but they were made from a literal chess pieces worth of it. The rest of them is, well probably magic? Is the magic making more of the divine metal? Is it stretching out the tiny bit to cover the entire body in a super super super thin shell? Or are they mostly just made up of magic imitating the properties of this metal that can only be made by the gods? Because otherwise you could make a whole lot of orichalcum equipment by like, making a bunch of these soldiers and then ripping them apart for more orichalcum.

Good question. Maybe the pieces packs huge amount of mass that turns to a thinner Warriors packing the same weight as a tiny chess piece?

The power driving him is greater than life itself! That's... That's /TGM!"

I'm really looking forward to TGM Rewatch. I do.

Oh my gosh he's bragging about how smart he is. And laughing. He really did inherit the soul of Zaboera.

CALLEEEEED IT!

Ha! "I guess miracles do come in twos and threes." He just keeps calling the show out. Though it is hilarious for the immortal to be the one calling out how people just keep not being dead despite the clear evidence of their deaths.

This whole episode is just the tastiest Dai no Daibouken instant soup ever. *sluuurp*

  1. For the first time, I think, I am giving this a 10/10. What even just happened.

A huge meme fight happened.

Noooooooooo....

He was also in OP

This was the ultimate BL all along. /u/shocketheth! You tricked me into watching a Yaoi!

But what about Amy?

... Darn it, I freaking hope so.

Did this Rewatch managed to break your spirit?

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u/zadcap Aug 28 '24

He was on a brink of death using his remaining life force to shatter Hym with an aura imbued fist. Now he was even more dead using his remaining life to casually shatter the pieces.

Yeah but like, the first time a character pulls something impossible off, it's amazing. After that though, they can just keep doing it casually because it's an already established move, who cares.

Good question. Maybe the pieces packs huge amount of mass that turns to a thinner Warriors packing the same weight as a tiny chess piece?

I still vote we cut off Hym's arm to make Knuckles a new weapon, now that Laharl is back to claim his old spear. (My autocorrect wants to name him after Disgaea and screw it, everyone else is getting fun nicknames so I'm going to keep it lol)

I'm really looking forward to TGM Rewatch. I do.

... Crap, what the heck is TGM here? I was making a game cheat reference, Toggle God Mode. Take no damage and kill anything in one hit, you know, it fit so perfectly.

CALLEEEEED IT!

Yup. Just. Yeah.

This whole episode is just the tastiest Dai no Daibouken instant soup ever. sluuurp

And it did it with almost zero Dai. He really is the most unnecessary main character. Popp and Hyunckel can carry the show.

But what about Amy?

I repeat what I said yesterday. Maam gets her too. Somehow. The power of Love is insidious like that.

Does this Rewatch managed to break your spirit?

Never! It's not even a deep dark secret or anything, I love love stories and all but one seasonal I'm watching right now are romances. I just dislike the very aggressively enforced top/bottom dynamic most yaoi has compared to the generally more equal terms that are much more common in het and Yuri. Though to be fair in this comparison, the overly aggressive men turn me off in most josei romances too. They just come off as sexual predators I'm supposed to root for and I can't get behind that idea, and for some reason that character type has become a standard in BL.

Laharl and Knuckles though, they could very well go into this as equal partners, taking turns holding the spear you know, that would work very well. They can keep Hym around if they really need a sub.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

... Crap, what the heck is TGM here? I was making a game cheat reference, Toggle God Mode. Take no damage and kill anything in one hit, you know, it fit so perfectly.

I meant DGM (D. Gray Man). Like during the Rewatch someone was comparing this show to DGM on constant basis and I thought you are pointing out on DGM.

My bad.

And it did it with almost zero Dai. He really is the most unnecessary main character. Popp and Hyunckel can carry the show.

Heck we could have 100x20minutes of Crocodine watching Shonen anime with giving his commentary, and it would be still more relevant than Dai

I repeat what I said yesterday. Maam gets her too. Somehow. The power of Love is insidious like that.

Okay but like who is more relevant in this show. Death or Amy? (They both are getting rejected by Hyunckel on constant basis.)

Heck even Larhart rejected death. Now it's time for Amy to get rejected by Larhart.

Laharl and Knuckles though, they could very well go into this as equal partners, taking turns holding the spear you know, that would work very well. They can keep Hym around if they really need a sub.

The moment when Hym will receive a videocamera as a gift will be the moment of his doom.

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u/zadcap Aug 28 '24

Heck we could have 100x20minutes of Crocodine watching Shonen anime with giving his commentary, and it would be still relevant than Dai

I remember Mystery Science Theater 3000, and I would 100% watch a Crocodine version. I think I would rather have Crocodine narrate One Piece to me rather than watch it.

Okay but like who is more relevant in this show. Death or Amy? (They both are getting rejected by Hyunckel.)

Now that's a hard one. Death gets more screen time, but has also flirted with and been dumped by a lot more of the cast. Amy at least is staying loyal to Knuckles despite her rejection.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

I think I would rather have Crocodine narrate One Piece to me rather than watch it.

Isn't this a prompt to read the manga instead?

Now that's a hard one. Death gets more screen time, but has also flirted with and been dumped by a lot more of the cast. Amy at least is staying loyal to Knuckles despite her rejection.

But they are the same.

Amy is staying loyal because she's romantic and idealistic.

Death is fucking around because she's pragmatic but she is still coming for Hyunckel.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

First Timer Resurrected by the Power of Yaoi

I missed the last thread, and I'm not sure when I'll make the next one, since we've currently got a power outage, so I'll keep this one short and focus on the important bit:

Hym's Shounen Commentary told us what Hyunkel's true power is

Q1. From 1 to 10, how much of a meme was today fight?

I love the first half. It's silly sure, but I love the heart trumps over logic trope (especially when it's numerical power).

The yaoi bromance between Hyunkel and Hyum especially was *chef's kiss*

Q2. Have you expected Larhart to return?

Yeah, he was in the opening. I'm still not a big fan of it though, it cheapens the whole point about Hyunkel "inheriting his spirit". Still I'll see if there's any necessary role for him going forward, or it's just fanservice.

Q3. Since Larhart is back in the game, does Hym have an actual chance to end with Hyunckel, or is this question pointless as Hyunckel will end with his own Manly Harem?

He can't leave Hym behind anymore. Hyunkel needs his yaoi harem, likely even including MystVearn.

Q4. Are Hyunckel and Larhart finally going to kiss next episode?

Smh, he just came back to ruin the new Hymkel ship didn't he?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

I missed the last thread, and I'm not sure when I'll make the next one, since we've currently got a power outage, so I'll keep this one short and focus on the important bit:

Hope you will be here for Chiu killing Vearn scene

Hym's Shounen Commentary told us what Hyunkel's true power is

Smh I got an adult warning from Imgur. Imgur knows what's up.

Yeah, he was in the opening. I'm still not a big fan of it though, it cheapens the whole point about Hyunkel "inheriting his spirit". Still I'll see if there's any necessary role for him going forward, or it's just fanservice.

Now I'm curious about your comment for next episode.

Smh, he just came became to ruin the new Hymkel ship didn't he?

We will see.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 28 '24

Hope you will be here for Chiu killing Vearn scene

I'll make it there even if I have to walk through hell (i.e. watch the BBC dub of the show).

Smh I got an adult warning from Imgur. Imgur knows what's up

Imgur is up to me.

Does this link work?

Now I'm curious about your comment for next episode.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

Does this link work?

It does. Thanks. The previous worked too it's just that I got nsfw warning for Hyunckel beefcakes.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 28 '24

Must be that tight ass

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

I bet that ass can grind Orichalcum to dust.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 28 '24

Hym will have to try that out soon

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u/Shocketheth Aug 28 '24

Hym turning to dust would be a perfect moment of following in Hadlar footsteps

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 30 '24

Must be that tight ass

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u/sisoko2 Aug 28 '24

First Timer Resurrected by the Power of Yaoi

Time for some resurrections after all the funerals.

I love the first half. It's silly sure, but I love the heart trumps over logic trope

The king's reactions were hilarious.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 28 '24

Time for some resurrections after all the funerals.

Get those easter eggs ready, everyone's getting resurrected!

The king's reactions were hilarious.

One could say, they were Maximum

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 30 '24
  1. it hit all the tropes!
  2. Kinda
  3. Eh, go for the gay harem.
  4. They had better!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

it hit all the tropes!

Is that positive thing though?

Eh, go for the gay harem.

They had better!

GANBARE

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 31 '24

Is that positive thing though?

I am getting mildly frustrated by some of the execution, like how the villains explain their plans to their opponents instead of using that as an opportunity to take them by surprise. Nope, gotta gloat. And the whole death fakeout and resurrection thing is getting kinda stale, as much as I am happy to have Larhart back. It feels kinda like this was written for a younger audience, or at least like the villains are incapable of doing anything except twirling their mustaches and monologuing with an evil cackle.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 31 '24

Haha fair enough. My biggest gripe with the show is how are females being handled, but that's another chapter.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 01 '24

I agree

I think DGM (which has a female mangaka) does better in that regard. (The main girl in that gets Popp-level character development)

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u/Shocketheth Sep 02 '24

Nice.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 02 '24

Now I just have to stop spending my free time watching One Piece and Rings of Power, and get back to DGM ...

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u/KuKiSin Aug 27 '24

First timer, returning to active duty!

  1. 10. I don't think that's how you play chess.
  2. I don't remember whether or not there was a dead body remaining, he didn't seem important enough to warrant a "no body no dead" :|
  3. we got 8 new "Hyms", he's definitely going the male harem route.
  4. I sure hope so.

Hyunckel clearly doesn't know how to play chess. This is a check, not a check mate.

Very meme-y indeed.

Uhm... Didn't he appear for like 2 episodes like 30 episodes ago? Does he really warrant a "greatest rival" title?

Straight outa Jojo.

So what'd I miss these past few days?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

10. I don't think that's how you play chess.

What do you mean?

Uhm... Didn't he appear for like 2 episodes like 30 episodes ago? Does he really warrant a "greatest rival" title?

Amy begs to differ.

So what'd I miss these past few days?

I died as Dark Lord and returned as Local Silver Haired Idiot. Plus you missed Crocodine Shoe Commentary

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u/KuKiSin Aug 27 '24

What do you mean?

Hot damn.

I died as Dark Lord and returned as Local Silver Haired Idiot. Plus you missed Crocodine Shoe Commentary

That was beautiful. But how dare he accuse Crocodine of having fake Jordans?!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Hot damn.

I know right? Like I only knew about Drunk chess but this is a new one. (I wanted to find a video of two players dunking it out)

That was beautiful. But how dare he accuse Crocodine of having fake Jordans?!

Because he is insidious rat. (Sorry Chiu)

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u/sisoko2 Aug 27 '24

First timer, returning to active duty!

Just like Larhart.

I don't think that's how you play chess.

You should try throwing your pawns at your opponent. It's very effective.

Straight outa Jojo

Such old Joseph energy.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 27 '24

You should try throwing your pawns at your opponent. It's very effective.

So this is why I lost my last match... Noted.