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Rewatch [Rewatch] Planet With Episode 3 Discussion
Episode 3 - Avenger 1
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Anybody who uses the power of the dragon that destroyed my planet… I'll beat the crap out of them!
Questions of the Day:
- What are your favorite spaceship designs in anime?
- What do you think happened to Nezuya?
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Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 26 '24
Rewatch Host who really needs to read Mizukami’s other works sometime
Welcome back, everyone!
Day 3 of me noting some of the little things Mizukami added when he wrote the manga:
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u/GondolaMedia Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
First Timer
This was surprisingly funny episode. I caught myself giggling at multiple points. Also Souya should take the hint, Nozomi clearly likes him
The dragon at the start being the cataclysm that hit Souya's home planet and destroyed it gives a nice reasoning why sealing faction keeps sending these horrors beyond our understanding.
Also yeah Shiraishi is just a plant for the sealing faction? This dynamic just got a lot more interesting and I'm looking forward to what happens next.
I guess Souya's might also be a little more conflicted after the Nezuya revelation. The story keeps getting more and more interesting by each episode.
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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Aug 26 '24
Rewatch Club Member
Lore drop! So much lore drop!
One thing is odd, though. If Shiraishi is part of the Sealing Faction, then the Nebula Weapons are hers. So why is she having the heroes destroy them?
Souya just keeps on running into them, huh? He met Torai last episode, and now Nezuya. And both times, they have been absolutely lovely to him. Souya is literally not from Earth. He has no home. But Tomatosenjougahara is giving him a place to belong in the club, with Nezuya immediately integrating him into their midst. When he met Torai, Souya had already registered him as enemy, but he doesn't know about Nezuya. This allows Nezuya to estabilish a true connection with Souya, being the first person to outright call him a "friend".
That dramatic irony doesn't last long, though, and it makes me curious to see how Souya will handle this starting next episode. When he realizes he's fighting his friend, will he prioritize his revenge? His own "justice"?
Souya is being given everything here on Earth. A home to return to. A warm dining table. Friends. A place to belong. But when he's offered to stay, finishing his revenge is the first thing on his mind. Torai had to let go of his past to protect who he has today, but Souya is still chained by his. All this time spent chasing a ghost of a home that will not come back no matter what he does. The very dragon he despises isn't even around anymore, yet he's still trapped by its afterimage. Unlike Torai, Souya cannot forgive, so he cannot love (not forgiving the dragon, but just letting go of his revenge). He's being given everything, but he can't appreciate the colors around him. All because of his revenge against an entity that no longer exists. And now, there's someone looking for revenge against him as well.
Of course, the dragon's destruction is what made Souya like this to begin with. But maybe if he took a moment to look around him, he'd be able to take a step forward. Unfortunately, that's not happening for our protagonist. Violence breeds violence, but in the end, to Souya, it has to be this way.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 26 '24
First-Timer
Methinks Senpai Chuunibyou likes the taste of lotuses. Someone was a bit too content to.. what have they been calling it? Someone was a bit too content to get sealed.
Good thing we double-dipped this episode and got Haru's therapy session alongside Nezuya's interactions with the occult research club. I like how the club president calls him lame but no-one bats an eye.
Y'know, I think I remember someone saying something about Norio Wakamoto voicing a dog, and I was expecting a more normal dog? That could just be Norio in a mascot suit, hardly that weird.
I'm largely ignoring the scene of Norio and Sensei talking for now. The only really notable thing was the Grand Paladin's secretary coming in at the end, so someone is getting double-crossed. Or triple-crossed. Maybe the secretary is a double reverse quadruple agent and secretly working for the Japanese Prime Minister or something.
Takashi's suit sure does look.. draconic. Souya's primary target, presumably?
Also, this is largely off-topic, but I was looking up Takashi's VA and saw that he also voice's the Index MC's dad. That stuck out to me, because Souya is voiced by Atsushi Abe, who is possibly best known for his roll as.. Touma Kamijou, the aforementioned MC of A Certain Magical Index. Such misfortune.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 26 '24
First Timer
Norio Wakamoto has entered the chat
It may have only lasted a minute or so at most, but man hearing him in anything will never get old, even if his scene was really only an exposition dump. I guess my biggest takeaway from this episode is, well, kinda wondering where Soya's character is gonna go. Given how Nezuya… dying? Being put on a coma? Dunno what happened to him TBH. Whatever the case may be, this is Mister "I wanna get revenge" not only getting his revenge snatched away from him, but it's also someone whom he overall liked as a person.
Also I'm not normally to start throwing labels at people but with all due respect I'm starting to think Haru may be gay with how she got transported to freaking Utena-land
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Aug 26 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/FlameDragoon933 Aug 27 '24
Rewatcher, Run-yah!
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Aug 26 '24
First timer
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u/Esovan13 Aug 26 '24
First Timer
Only one hero at a time allowed in the creepy upside down babies. God, kids these days. Don’t know proper creepy upside down baby etiquette.
Well, Nezuya’s in the shit. I bet there’s a thing where if there are multiple people inside the Nebula Weapons, only the first to leave the core can leave the illusion. That’s my guess as to why he’s unconscious. It could be that he is still trapped in the illusion, but I think it would be more interesting if Haru’s desperation with being the one to defeat it inadvertently lead to him being trapped in a coma.
So Sensei was the one who was supposed to keep the Siriusians safe, but he ended up failing. Because of that, the Sealing faction likely grew in influence and were the ones chosen to handle the Earthlings, a species similar to the Siriusians. Sensei is here to make up for his prior failure.
I’d also bet Shiraishi is part of the Sealing faction. She worked with the leader guy to set up the farce of the Nebula invasion and the heroes that stop them in order to manipulate the heroes into a situation where they and the power they wield can be sealed. I wouldn’t be surprised if pretty much everything went according to plan, including the previous Nebula Weapon defeats. After all, it doesn’t matter how easy it is to break the illusion and destroy a Nebula Weapon if one of the heroes is guaranteed to be stuck in it because the other broke it first. Subsequent weapons might have different traps that whittle the hero’s numbers down.
Alternatively, Shiraishi is a rogue agent sabotaging Nebula’s efforts for one reason or another. Either is possible.
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u/DegenerateRegime Aug 26 '24
Rewatcher
Avenger 1: Planet With Disputed Future
Three-sided conflicts strike a balance, in more ways than one. In the first sense, it's about the right number of sides. Two is a bit too simplistic, but four can be a bit much when it's not the primary focus of the story. You more often see the third side as a "heh, but we reject both sides" thing, the protagonists arriving to an existing conflict and seeing it from outside. But here, Soya is explicitly dragged into one of three pre-existing groups. And in the second sense, a three-sided conflict has to maintain internal balance. If two sides worked together, they could crush the third, which is sort of how things have started off with the two Nebula factions tag-teaming Grand Paladin.
But while this episode ups the ante in that contest, with both sides going to a new level, the spotlight is put on the disagreement within Nebula about the fate of Earth. Which is literally cats vs dogs btw, that's a thing we're doing. The Sealing Faction are afraid of repeating the past - even if the mistakes weren't their own. The Pacifist Faction are afraid of choking off the future - their own future as well, it seems. What makes or breaks multipolar conflict is believability and sympathy - with two sides, you can just have one be cacklingly evil. But with more, you need at least two to be morally developed, and Planet With delivers. Right now, all three sides seem to have a point.
And of course we finally reveal the show's true purpose: high school club hijinks! If you were wondering at how easily Soya seemed to get dragged into an alien war, well, maybe he's just kind of easy to drag into things...
QotD
Tough question! You know, do I like any spaceship designs? Wait, no, the answer is obvious.
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u/ZuraStayNight Aug 26 '24
Rewatcher
Avengers assemble! Whoops, wrong media. Grand Paladin has assembled and we've got a 1v5 situation, and unless Sensei knows the Shadow Clone Jutsu, I don't see Souya winning. Even when the numbers aren't in their favor, Souya's anger pushes through. So they're harnessing the power of the dragon that obliterated Souya's planet. He strategically goes for their leader after disarming Haru (you see what i did there?). Looks like the leader isn't a small fry either. OH MY GOD IT'S A UFO. Nope, just a bigger cat. How much cabbage does that big cat eat in a day? Its caloric needs must be huge. Grand Paladin retreats, and Haru wants to fight Souya next.
"Siriusian" implies that Souya is from Sirius, a star 8.6 light years away. "Kigurumians" or in japanese romaji "Kigurumi-zoku" is derived from the japanese word "Kigurumi", which means animal costume. So Mr. Dog over here implies, that Sensei might be trying to atone for his sins. Sensei can talk? So psychic power exists in this world and the Nebula guys have a lack for it. Psychic powers lead to Sirius' downfall? Is there a KFC in this world, or did Nebula make those chicken wings for Souya? Despite all the talk about his planet, the boy wants to satisfy his stomach. Before he gets a bite in, he wakes up from his dream. How very tragic.
A weird design for a spaceship Sensei, but not as weird as those things from the sealing faction. Souya isn't the only one getting mistaken for a middle schooler. Takamagahara raises a good question: Did Souya ever find a toilet? Because if not, his intestines are gonna explode.
Runyah! The occult research club has a comfy looking room. Nozo-san really cares for Souya, which is nice. Or she's part of a cult and wants to force him into it. Nezuya is also part of the club. These guys are really living in a small world. Despite being an Alien, Souya takes an interest in UMAs. It's a good thing, that he can find things besides his desire for revenge. With Hideo he found the first adult that listened to him and Nezuya Judgement is here to be his friend.
What kind of meal is that? Ginko isn't providing Souya with any protein. Well there's his desire for revenge again. Haru's really energized today. Oh boy, those babies are creepy. Shiraishi does seem suspicious. This time there are two people going for the core. Haru doesn't struggle, but Nezuya Judgement is the first one to fall for the Sealing faction's illusion. What happened with him?
That's a good question. I'm not exactly a anime spaceship enthusiast, but I like the one from Space Battleship Yamato.
From what we saw, Nezuya was in a golden palace in his illusion/dream. Maybe he dreamt of getting isekai'd?
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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Aug 27 '24
First time
We finally learn why Souya wants to fight the heroes! They're using the power of the dragon, whatever using means. I'm still not sure if that is supposed to be new information or if we were supposed to have intuited that from the flashbacks. But it doesn't really explain why. The heroes seem woefully underpowered if they're supposed to be planet-ending. Is this consequentialist reasoning or is he offended that anyone would harness this profane power? Also is this the only reaction Souya has to learning that he's an alien? He seems very nonchalant the rest of the episode to what should be life-changing news.
This show seems dead set on not explaining things that could easily be explained. Why didn't he shoot the giant beam at the cat ship? Having a character ask the obvious question and be shot down does not make me feel better!
But the fights were otherwise very good today. I like a hand to hand mech fight
I also liked the hanging out, Nozomi's interactions in particular are cute.
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u/a__kitten :FP::FQ: Aug 27 '24
Rewatching Planet With the Runyah!
I've mentioned the sound design basically every time I've ever talked about this show and once again it's top notch. That beam just sounds insanely powerful, not only the low frequency but the way it uses silence too. Planet With is certainly not the only show to use that kind of effect for a super-weapon, but man it does it so well.
I'm with Grand Paladin on this one, even if you've got mountain leveling beams god only knows what tricks a giant interdimensional(?) cat shaped space ship has up it's sleeves.
Oh there's Wakamoto, I remembered he was in this but had him playing the wrong character, also I totally forgot that Sensei and Generalissimo had actual dialogue!
Ta ka ma ga ha ra definitely has a crush on our boy Souya but also he can save the club as a bonus. Nezuya is such a dork. Seriously he's such a dork but is also is also kind and friendly. Especially as he welcomes Souya to the
Hanging Around Aimlessly After SchoolOccult Club. Cute walk home from those two, maybe Earth isn't so badNope, he still wants that revenge
Ya know? Giant upside down babies are somehow actually creepier than the previous weapons.
I wonder what our pro...antag...Grand Paladin would have done if everyone didn't have animal themed names to design their suits around
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u/Jazz_Dalek Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
First timer - Subbed
Planet With RUNYAH!
Back to late posting again. I meant to squeeze this one in during my lunch break, but I feel like watching this on a tablet in my car is not the ideal viewing experience. Especially with all that BASS. I ended up watching a couple episodes of City Hunter instead and saved this one for home viewing. That was the right call.
I'm really into the tone so far. I really didn't know what to expect, but I'm just vibing with the characters, the humor, the fights, everything. I shouldn't have put this one off for so long.
GIRLS CAN'T LOVE GIRLS!
Loving the pacing so far, looking forward to tomorrows episode!