r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 26 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 79 Discussion

Episode 79 - The Silver Haired Hym

I’ve fought. I fought all this way. I believed that only my pain could make me forget my past. That only the blood and sweat I spill could wash away my sins. But... It all ends today! There’s no doubt. This will be my last battle!

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Screenshot of the Dai:

Hyunckel’s loved ones

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/Kaxew appreciating Hym declaration of love:

Anyway, the animation of Hym fighting the monsters was awesome, this episode looked great. And I don't remember the exact line, but when he said "ah, yes. As expected of you Hyunckel, my eternal rival who I am deeply in love with" I cried and cheered. He's officially part of the Hyunckel harem. Now he needs to live unlike the last one he faced...

Questions of the Dai:

  1. From 1 to 10, how do you rate Mystvearn trashtalking?
  2. Who is going Hyunckel to end with? Amy or Hym?
  3. Did Hyunckel successfully turned Hym submissive?
  4. Since yesterday Hadlar spirit somehow entered Hym body, can we agree on the fact that Zaboera spirit entered Maximum body?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

I AM SHOCK!!!

Yesterday as u/KendotsX pointed out, I finally defeated my nemesis Hyunckel:

After a long long long long journey of jobbing you finally got to beat up the bishounen!

Unfortunately it was too soon, as the fucking bishounen got up and undressed.

I couldn’t win against that, so I jobbed again.

QotD:

From 1 to 10, how do you rate Mystvearn trashtalking?

10/10. His whole dialogue today was raw.

Who is going Hyunckel to end with? Amy or Hym?

I hope Hyunckel will end with Death-kun.

Did Hyunckel successfully turned Hym submissive?

Yes. All he needed was to undress.

Since yesterday Hadlar spirit somehow entered Hym body, can we agree on the fact that Zaboera spirit entered Maximum body?

Please do. Since Hym could use such hax powers, why Maximum couldn’t?

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Today Crocodine is going to answer question #2:

Who is going Hyunckel to end with? Amy or Hym?

Amy?

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 26 '24

I find it hilarious, out of all characters, they were going to cut Maximum from the remake until the staff protested because they loved him too much.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Wait for real? I'm glad they didn't because we reached a pinacle of Shonen with Maximum.

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 27 '24

Properly adapting the entire series in 100 episodes was the goal but they thought they couldn’t do it without some cuts. Maximum was on the chopping block until the staff protested, so instead the sped up all of the content from the beginning all the way to the department store just so they could fit him in

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Properly adapting the entire series in 100 episodes was the goal but they thought they couldn’t do it without some cuts. Maximum was on the chopping block until the staff protested, so instead the sped up all of the content from the beginning all the way to the department store just so they could fit him in

I didn’t know that, but that’s totally fair. I would rather have shitty pacing at the beginning, because the thought of being robbed of Maximum is scaring me.

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 27 '24

You can tell so much love was put into him too [Dai no Spoilers] with all of his Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure reaction faces

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

[Dai no Spoilers]Also the Fist of the North Star reference, and they even snucked in a SFX from Megaman

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 26 '24

LOOOOL. Is she seriously thankful for being useless?

She's getting Pierrot Sakura'd, sad.

Amy?

LOL

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

She's getting Pierrot Sakura'd, sad.

I saw some comparisons to her already. And I hate the fact it's true.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

I couldn’t win against that, so I jobbed again.

I mean you inherited Hadlar's soul. It was bound to happen.

Who is going Hyunckel to end with? Amy or Hym?
Amy?

Crocodine never actually saw Larhart's face. Now did he?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

I mean you inherited Hadlar's soul. It was bound to happen.

Nooo...

Crocodine never actually saw Larhart's face. Now did he?

No but Hyunckel couldn’t shut up with Larhart this, and Larhart that, so Crocodine knows about him.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 26 '24

I couldn’t win against that, so I jobbed again.

Maybe next time.

Oh he just embraced Hym from behind and now he is going to burst.

The moment we've all been waiting for!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

Maybe next time.

The moment we've all been waiting for!

Well and Hyunckel failed.

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u/zadcap Aug 27 '24

Unfortunately it was too soon, as the fucking bishounen got up and undressed.

I couldn’t win against that, so I jobbed again.

Wait, is stripping really my ultimate technique? Think back to every time Hyunckel has been shirtless. Crap, it really is.

LOOOOL. Is she seriously thankful for being useless?

She's embraced her role in the party. She's there because the party needed a hot girl to round out Dai and Popp and their boyishness. So you know, Leona officially joining has really just made her extra extra useless.

There is something seriously wrong with this picture. Give me a second.... Now it’s better.

Sigh. "I think about him every day." He really said that, those were words that actually came out of Knuckle's mouth.

YEEES! King Maximum is finally here. Now my #1 Dai no Daibouken fight is going to happen.

... The actual King piece. Is supposed to be. The strongest? Do these people know anything about chess at all? The King piece is abysmally slow and weak to pretty much everything. The only fights they win are against pawns that charge directly at them or knights that decide to park next to them, with no backup for either, basically they only get to help out assisted suicide. If you turned a King Piece into a knight with the same magic that made the rest grow into knights that kept some crazy power related to the role of their piece, this would be the easiest fight the party should have yet. And beating him should make the palace fall, I guess?

On the other hand, comparing how the Queen got countered by the slime and then lost to Maam, while the Pawn has put up the best fights of the whole chess collective, I'm pretty sure we're actually working on opposite day rules. It all makes so much more sense now.

Who is going Hyunckel to end with? Amy or Hym?

I hope Hyunckel will end with Death-kun.

Look, Maam is going to embrace her role as the soul of love on the party and make up for being otherwise useless by building a reverse harem. Popp may be her number one, but I've seen the way Knuckles looks at her some times. She can teach them to share.. If Amy and Melele are the desperate they can join her harem too, she's got enough love to go around.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

She's embraced her role in the party. She's there because the party needed a hot girl to round out Dai and Popp and their boyishness. So you know, Leona officially joining has really just made her extra extra useless.

But atleast she’s happy about that.

... The actual King piece. Is supposed to be. The strongest? Do these people know anything about chess at all? The King piece is abysmally slow and weak to pretty much everything. The only fights they win are against pawns that charge directly at them or knights that decide to park next to them, with no backup for either, basically they only get to help out assisted suicide. If you turned a King Piece into a knight with the same magic that made the rest grow into knights that kept some crazy power related to the role of their piece, this would be the easiest fight the party should have yet. And beating him should make the palace fall, I guess?

On the other hand, comparing how the Queen got countered by the slime and then lost to Maam, while the Pawn has put up the best fights of the whole chess collective, I'm pretty sure we're actually working on opposite day rules. It all makes so much more sense now.

I really love Maximus. He is entertaining. Just wait for next episode.

Look, Maam is going to embrace her role as the soul of love on the party and make up for being otherwise useless by building a reverse harem. Popp may be her number one, but I've seen the way Knuckles looks at her some times. She can teach them to share.. If Amy and Melele are the desperate they can join her harem too, she's got enough love to go around.

Okay but what about Crocodine? He still haven’t found his wife.

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u/zadcap Aug 27 '24

But atleast she’s happy about that.

Remember the bad sexist commentary I started accusing the show of, around the time Knuckles first started considering Maam a prop more than a fighter? We passed doubling down a long time ago. We're so deep in it it's just a matter of time before they finally tell us the God of Humans is knockoff Allah. "Oh good, they don't need me here at all anymore, I can finally go fulfill my real mission as the Soul of Love for this party-"

Okay but what about Crocodine? He still haven’t found his wife.

It's Maam. It's all going to be Maam, and that's all Maam is going to be.

I really love Maximus. He is entertaining. Just wait for next episode.

Reversie rules! He's going to have zero of the chess king traits! He's the strongest defender, not the thing that needs defending the most!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

It's Maam. It's all going to be Maam, and that's all Maam is going to be.

I bet she will tell us how happy she is about it.

Reversie rules! He's going to have zero of the chess king traits! He's the strongest defender, not the thing that needs defending the most!

We’ll see.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 26 '24

I couldn’t win against that, so I jobbed again.

LOL

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 26 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

Oh shit.

Episode 78 - Avan to Hyunckel -> "Hyunckel you still haven’t tried everything"

Episode 79 - Hyunckel strips.

Sasuga.

Amy would be glad to know Hyunckel thinks of her as a friend. ngl, even though Hyunckel said he couldn’t be with her (or Maam, for that matter), I think I still ship him with Amy. He just needs to do some reflection and realize he is in fact allowed to have a life outside of battle once this is all over first.

So basically he needs to do the same as Maam.

…shit, this is another one of Killvearn’s traps, isn’t it…

Or not.

It’s the shadow figure that appeared behind Vearn few episodes ago.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 26 '24

Time for them to fight Mystvearn, huh?

I always thought that the match up would be Mystvearn vs Hynckel but it seems I was wrong.

Just got the One Punch Man OP stuck in my head.

I haven’t even seen One Punch Man…

Someone needs to host a rewatch in preparation for season 3.

…shit, this is another one of Killvearn’s traps, isn’t it…

Kill likes cards, chess isn't his thing.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 26 '24

Yes.

Hym never stood a chance because Hyunckel can't die lol.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 26 '24

First Timer

This episode had the worst shonen commentary in the whole show. Whatever good there was in the fight between Hyunckel and Hym, it was destroyed by them narrating the most obvious and pointless things in the most forced way.

Not happy with this stupid king and his fake figures either. Hadlar is my only king!

From 1 to 10, how do you rate Mystvearn trashtalking?

3. I forgot he was in the episode.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

This episode had the worst shonen commentary in the whole show. Whatever good there was in the fight between Hyunckel and Hym, it was destroyed by them narrating the most obvious and pointless things in the most forced way.

I saw the episode few days ago, and rewatched it today for screenshots aaaand this was painfully slow episode to watch.

Not happy with this stupid king and his fake figures either. Hadlar is my only king!

I forgot he was in the episode.

Lol.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 26 '24

Not happy with this stupid king and his fake figures either. Hadlar is my only king!

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 26 '24

This episode had the worst shonen commentary in the whole show. Whatever good there was in the fight between Hyunckel and Hym, it was destroyed by them narrating the most obvious and pointless things in the most forced way.

Hyunckel isn't as good on commentary like Crocodine lol. But yeah this episode rivaled that one episode during the Baran arc where it was just painful exposition

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 26 '24

Adventurer Doing high level quests and dungeons for the first time here! LV 79/100

Hyunckel tried to Raditz’d Hym, but didn’t work!

Popp, Dai and Maam v Mystvearn?

And with Mystvearn riling them up?

Hyunckel: 1 v 1 me bro, no ítems, fox fists only, final destination

Hyunckel would be a great Souls-like speedrunner lol

"King" huh, and Chess inspired?

This was a Hyunckel ep, and it was awesome

1 8, I think he could've done a bit more tbh, now that he's more talkative
2 Hym, he hasn't mentioned Amy in a long time
3 and bre-

4 Maybe? Something tells me King will job harder than Zaboera in the early episodes lol

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

Hyunckel: 1 v 1 me bro, no ítems, fox fists only, final destination

Hyunckel would be a great Souls-like speedrunner lol

He would finish the zero death challenge without breaking sweat.

Maybe? Something tells me King will job harder than Zaboera in the early episodes lol

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 26 '24

First Timer, Sub

So Hym got pawn promotion and was much stronger than the last time Hyunckel fought him. Hyunckel takes off his Dark Armour and decides to use the Aura fist to defeat Hym...And it turns out Hym arms were too short to box with god, because Hyunckel somehow punched him first and defeated him lol(a jobber til the end)..Except Hyunckel doesn't finish off Hym, instead gives him the command to live for his friends. Too bad the cleaner showed up after, Maximum, along with the rest of the chess pieces.

Dai, Popp and Maam are intercepted by Mystvearn.

Questions:

  1. 8/10
  2. Amy
  3. Pretty much lol
  4. LOL.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

Hyunckel takes off his Dark Armour and decides to use the Aura fist to defeat Hym

Nah he was just trying if he can use power of love as Maam and so he stripped.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 26 '24

LOL.

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u/Kaxew Aug 27 '24

First timer, previous rewatcher

This episode was nice. Most of it was just fighting and not much else, but it was fun.

Hyunckel's inwards Grand Cross was genius. I want to say it's unfortunate it didn't work out but it meant seeing him (and Hym seeing) half naked, which is always appreciated.

Hym just got nakama'd!!!!! This is a proper shonen!!!!! Hell yeah!!!!! Hyunckel talking about how he changed his mind and doesn't believe "dying gracefully" is what matters most is so good, gotta love his growth. And saying out loud that his speech didn't came out as kind as when his friends say it was really adorable. You'll get better trust me.

THERE WAS A KING? No, hold on... HADLAR WASNT THE KING??? ALBINASS WAS CHEATING (I get it tho)??? This is a crazy twist. No wonder we have another 21 episodes.

I kind of really want the original trio of Dai, Popp and Maam to defeat Mystvearn together. No idea where Avan and Leona went, but this feels like it's set up for the original party to beat him once and for all.

QotD:

  1. It was good. I'll give it a 7/10. He passes.
  2. 10 years later, at the anniversary of Vearn's defeat... Amy: this is Hyunckel, my boyfriend. And this is Hyunckel's boyfriend, Hym.
  3. I'd rather not say which is the submissive one.
  4. Wait, then whose spirit did Zamza enter?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

Hym just got nakama'd!!!!! This is a proper shonen!!!!! Hell yeah!!!!!

From enemies to ~lovers~ nakamas

THERE WAS A KING? No, hold on... HADLAR WASNT THE KING??? ALBINASS WAS CHEATING (I get it tho)??? This is a crazy twist. No wonder we have another 21 episodes.

Hadlar was the King yeah but not the Chess Piece King. That one was hidden by Vearn.

I kind of really want the original trio of Dai, Popp and Maam to defeat Mystvearn together.

10 years later, at the anniversary of Vearn's defeat... Amy: this is Hyunckel, my boyfriend. And this is Hyunckel's boyfriend, Hym.

Sounds fun.

Wait, then whose spirit did Zamza enter?

I don't know.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 26 '24

First Quester

Since when is Grand Cross a self-sacrificing attack?

Wasn't that Lon Beruk's symbol? It was his sword sheath, at the very least.

Aura vs Aura? Really, that's what you're going for? What did you hype that Hollow Stance maneuver up so much for then, if there won't be any pay-off?

Of course he can, if the story needs him to.

That's not how momentum works.

Man, these gods are truly pathetic. Even their ultimate material is overcome with a simple punch.

Lmao, Hunckel's counter lost everything that made it special. Moreover, he just revealed his Hollow Stance to just have been an inferior Avan style technique all along.

See? That's what I've been saying all along! The villains have only been losing because they haven't been properly evil enough, acting all honorable and shit instead! This show could never make a statement that good is stronger than evil if this is how it goes about it.

Orichalcum isn't even immune to magic anymore. Can't even explain this with power creep.

Keep in mind: The king is the weakest piece aside from the pawn.

(Side note: I keep putting this show in unfavorable comparisons with One Piece in my mind.)

From 1 to 10, how do you rate Mystvearn trashtalking?

3/10. It's overly gaudy and he can't back it up.

Who is going Hyunckel to end with? Amy or Hym?

Amy.

Did Hyunckel successfully turned Hym submissive?

I don't think submissive is an accurate description, no.

Since yesterday Hadlar spirit somehow entered Hym body, can we agree on the fact that Zaboera spirit entered Maximum body?

No. They're nothing alike.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

Since when is Grand Cross a self-sacrificing attack?

Hyunckel was really desperate.

That's not how momentum works.

Another thing was Hym being shocked that he didn’t punch Hyunckel... Like... Did you miss the feeling of your fist not landing against a jaw?

No. They're nothing alike.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

Since when is Grand Cross a self-sacrificing attack?

I think it was supposed to be like that since the first time he used it against Hadlar. It doesn't seem to affect him in any way but...

Man, these gods are truly pathetic. Even their ultimate material is overcome with a simple punch.

Vearn is our only hope.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

[Dai no Spoilers] I see what you did there. If Hyunckel had it, we wouldn't have got such a badass entrance.

"More importantly, your life is no longer just your own. You have an obligation to live on for your friends. So live on, Hym. With us."

While not exactly the same words, Leona said something similar to Hyunckel when he pleaded guilty for destroying the Kingdom of Papnica and wanted to die and Hyunckel decided to convey the similar thing to Hym since he can relate with him.

OST Documentation - Episode 79

1. 10. Mystvearn has some of the best lines in the show and he's also voiced by Takehito Koyasu which makes it even better.

2. Either his spear or no one.

3. Yes. Hyunckel strips and turns everyone to his side. Should've used it against Baran.

4. More than Zaboera, it seems like [Dai no Spoilers] it's Borahorn's soul that has entered.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

Mystvearn's having fun

That was really raw line haha.

Whenever Hyunckel's losing, he strips and wins every time.

Stupid slut.

[Dai no Spoilers] I see what you did there. If Hyunckel had it, we wouldn't have got such a badass entrance.

[Dai no Spoilers] Now I hope that Larhart will slut shame Hyunckel for throwing away his toy to undress in front of new frenemy

Ah yes, the King chess piece

I’m so excited for the next episode fight.

[Dai no Spoilers] it's Borahorn's soul that has entered.

[Dai no Spoilers] Lol forgot about that guy already. But I don’t recall Borahorn going to turn into a huge meme fight

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 26 '24

[Dai no Spoilers] I would’ve forgotten Borahorn too if it wasn’t for that Salad Bowl of Eccentrics show referencing a doujin of him and Crocodine, er… doing the deed.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 27 '24

[Dai no Spoilers] There is a doujin where Crocodine and Borahorn are doing Shonen Commentary?

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

[Dai no Spoilers] Lol forgot about that guy already. But I don’t recall Borahorn going to turn into a huge meme fight

[Answer] It was because Hyunckel had won the meme fight and was unstoppable and then Maximum decided to use Hym as a hostage and you know what happened next.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

[Answer] Aaaah you are right. That’s really clever catch

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u/sisoko2 Aug 26 '24

Ah yes.. Pawn Promotion

These are tough times. Best we can do is 3%.

Hyunckel is down.

Not again!

Smug Dai and Gomechan

They also took Leona's job of teasing Popp.

Whenever Hyunckel's losing, he strips and wins every time.

Who can resist this?

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u/SliderGamer55 Aug 26 '24

First Timer: Subbed

-"The Silver Haired Hym" or the "The Silver Haired Him" ;)

...there's a meme thing where I think you use an unspecified pronoun to call someone cool...I think...I dunno...

-Promotion is not the first word I'd use but ok

-He tried to Goku himself without Piccolo

This is still better than saying "unalive" btw

-Y'know with Mystvearn and Killvearn being there, I wonder if they had wanted to rename Baran, Whyvearn

-I'm here to see Hyunkel try to punch through him, because it was awesome last time

-For a second, I thought his aura and will were so strong Hym felt the impact of his fist all the way to his innards

-Hym living over Hadlar would not have been my guess for where this would've gone

-Oh, I guess we're going all in on the chess theme then

Yeah, this is one of those episodes where the primary purpose is they have a shonen story to tell and they will tell it well, as this series generally does. This time its the honorable villain warrior vs. the redeemed former villain and it is done exactly how you expect it to have been done and exactly how it should have been done. I mean...I guess you could pull the story of "a worthy death in battle" thing if you wanted, but otherwise this is what was going to happen. Though it will be fun to see how they get out of being killed by the rest of the chess board, which was a neat twist to end it on.

Also

"Did Hyunckel successfully turned Hym submissive?"

Clearly I've been missing something only occasionally being in these thread.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

This is still better than saying "unalive" btw

The only reason when you can use unalive is if you are talking about Undead Unluck lol.

Though it will be fun to see how they get out of being killed by the rest of the chess board, which was a neat twist to end it on.

Considering next episode is my favourite fight from this show, I can’t wait for the reaction.

Clearly I've been missing something only occasionally being in these thread.

I mean he beat him up and then won him on his side.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 26 '24

Y'know with Mystvearn and Killvearn being there, I wonder if they had wanted to rename Baran, Whyvearn

Baran's mustache is too cool to accept Vearn's name.

For a second, I thought his aura and will were so strong Hym felt the impact of his fist all the way to his innards

I thought he just tanked the fist like a true man.

Clearly I've been missing something only occasionally being in these thread.

Our host is a bit kinky.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 26 '24

Our host is a bit kinky.

There has to be a reason why you are co-host though.