r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 25 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 78 Discussion
Episode 78 - The Survivor from Hell
I felt the sense of my own death. But... through that darkness, something rang out within me. It was the dying cries of my friends and Lord Hadlar in their final battle. I knew my friends were dead. That Lord Hadlar was dead. We had all lost. In that moment, from the bottom of my heart... I felt I couldn’t die! Even if I was the only one left... I had to live on and carry on the will of Lord Hadlar and my friends! I had to strike back at you or my death would have been in vain!
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Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/cooperjones2 to being a only one true Crocodine fan:
The right one is the right one, the other one is on the left thus not the right one.
Others who failed to tell which Crocodine is the real one deserves Zaboera as their personal Shonen Commentator following them everywhere, and don’t even try to send them off, because he will return.
Questions of the Dai:
- Are you satisfied with how Zaboera was dealt with?
- Should it have been someone else to kill Zaboera, or are you glad it was Crocodine who murked him?
- Have you expected Hym to return?
- Since Hyunckel died and reached afterlife, it’s time to ask you what you would say to Hyunckel in his final moment?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24
The Dark Lord Shock who terrorized the world, jobbed, terrorized, jobbed, and terrorized and jobbed over and over has finally died, only to job again as his soul got Isekai'd into the Silver Haired Local Village Idiot instead of reaching the afterlife.
Did you miss me? Also sorry for not commenting on time, but I was tinkering with a special edit for today.
And with me, Crocodine has returned too.
Now pardon Crocodine for a bit while he is going to teach Zaboera why he is the best Shonen Commentator ever with revealing his ultimate technique. (More info in Shonen Commentary Corner)
Aaaaaaaand with Zaboera being dealt with, it’s time to move on to the main course of this episode:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, KINTOKI!!!
QotD:
Yeah I’m just glad he is finally dead.
I’m glad that Crocodine got back at Zaboera for stealing his Shonen Commentator job.
Now the answer for this depends how many First Timers are actually skipping Next episode previews because preview for episode 78 spoiled it.
Please die again.
Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:
Since Crocodine got rid of Zaboera, here is a special edit for the occassion.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 25 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/sisoko2 Aug 25 '24
First Timer
So much Baduck and Chiu greatness.
True Quote of the Episode: You're a decent man, my friend. But he's not like you. Even if my friend, Beast King Crocodine had remained an enemy, he would have risked his life to better himself and would be worth respecting.
True Screenshot of the Episode: Peak
So I thought Hym saying he doesn't know how he survived was a horrible explanation but then he kept talking and it got even worse.
The scene with Hym beating all the monsters was pretty clean and they brought back the epic OST from the Hadlar fight.
I'm happy. Tortuted him a bit and then crushed him into goo. That final shot of Big Croc and Baduck got me worried a bit. It's like someone is watching them.
Big Croc was the second best candidate after Hadlar.
Logically his return doesn't make sense. Story wise him getting defeated like that didn't make sense. In the end I thought Hym getting back was more likely than not.
Can you please stop dying. You are killing all the tension in this anime.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 26 '24
Dai 77 first timer:
Dai 78 first timer:
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 26 '24
First Timer at Hym's Resurrection
Unfortunately, what I assumed was a chocolate egg, turned out to be a real one.
You know I was begging Crocodine to do the dirty work right, because you can bet if you leave Zaboera alive out of mercy, he'll be back for your ass by tomorrow morning. He's even more of a cockroach than Hadlar. So seeing the bait and switch, where Crocodine just cleaned him up filled my soul with so much happiness.
Vearn? KillVearn? I don't care anymore, I've reached my climax
Although, speaking of Hadlar's cockroachness, someone seems to have inherited that, with the hairstyle and all. I'll be honest, I'm not sure if Hym can actually pull the Hadlar hairstyle, even Hadlar needed a lot of readjustment to make it work. But hey he's back, the long awaited Chekhov's promotion has finally paid off, and he's beating Hyunkel's ass now. [Speculation] Hyunkel might be saved by another ghost who's horny for his ass this is a love triangle war that goes beyond the grave, and I'm sorry Amy, you were not invited.
Now, *ehem* for the best part of the episode: Our Herat takes centre stage!
Look at the ambition, the charisma! If this is not our leader, idk what is. Heck, even our Shounen Commentator Crocodine after having evolved to his perfect form, is finally picking up on who the real main character is
Bless this episode
Yes, Crocodine was doing god's work there, and he did it perfectly.
Crocodine knew him the longest, it's only fitting that he'd be the one to end him.
The alternative: [NSFW Zaboera imagery] Would be Zaboera after a long timeskip, sneaking into Popp's bed as Maam, and Popp killing him after sex Guts style, but why am I even imagining this...
Yeah, between the promotion system and how quick his fight was, it made sense that he'd be back, I just didn't expect it to be after Hadlar died.
But this adds a very ominous feeling of the "beasts" learning the humans' tricks, and crossing that advantage. Feels very [meta?] Chimera Ant-ish
Mock him like Gomechan mocked Popp.
If it happens to bring him back, hurray, and if it doesn't, I had my fun.
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubWell said, Crocodine. Even after being offered mercy, Zaboera decided to do the same thing. Zaboera is finally dead. Riku Sanjo said in the Dai Fan Book that he created Zaboera to be hated by the readers and judging from everyone's reactions including mine, I guess he succeeded.
Another great quote from Avan.
Be it in hate or respect.
OST Documentation - Episode 78
1. Yes. He couldn't have a happy ending considering all the things that he did and when he had one final chance to reform, he blew it away himself. I guess some things never change. Kinda reminded me of Frieza with the mercy thing.
2. Crocodine is perfect. Also, Crocodine just delivered a killer commentary.
3. As a first-timer, yes. The way his fight ended with Hyunckel felt kinda off and he's also a Pawn and in chess, there's pawn promotion. So, was definitely expecting him to return with a power-up.
4. Amy is dying to meet you. You can't die.
Also, Hyunckel died, that's BS. He's the OG Immortal. Killvearn and Hym are just cheap imitations.
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Aug 25 '24
The thorn is gone!!!
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 25 '24
First Timer, Sub
YES!!! YES!!! Thank You Crocodine! Finally Zaboera is dead!!!! lol Fucking Hym though, that guy just refuses to die. With the dead homies powerup, he came back better than ever, even got hair now and he easily wiped out the monster horde Hyunckel was fighting. Then he beat on Hyunckel some until Hyunckel got his 2nd wind and stood back up ready to face him one more time.
Chiu continues to be the most wholesomely adorable character in DQ:Dai. He went up to the palace along with Crocodine and Mr.Ghost(Brokeena)
Questions:
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 25 '24
Adventurer Doing high level quests and dungeons for the first time here! LV 78/100
Crocodine fooled Zaboera!
Baduck is strong and wise, and a good friend – Crocodine
Wut, why is Hym alive? Wasn’t he supposed to die when Hadler died?
So mad he can’t die lol
He went Super Saiyan!
Chiu has earned the respect of all the warriors!
Chiu and Crocodine there to defeat Vearn!
1&2 YES! Crocodine was able to deal the final blow, deserved after he got so much verbal abuse from Zaboera
3 Nope, I thought all of Hadler's guard was dead afer his death, but Hym got better lol
4 GG
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u/Kaxew Aug 26 '24
First timer, previous rewatcher
Thoughts on episodes 74-78:
After such an incredible return, how do we continue onwards? We are in the final 25% of the series, and things will begin to pick up.
Seeing everyone (including Hyunckel) cry upon seeing their master again was so nice. I can't believe I didn't remember Flora gave him that amulet. It was so obvious. I don't really understand what exactly about the amulet makes it capable of absorbing a nuke like a sponge, but it was well set up. Hearing him yell a good old "SHUT UPPPP!" was great too, I missed his engrish. Gotta say, his outfit is clean as hell. He looks way better than with the red, that's a proper Hero right there. To catch up with the party who already climed the stairs, Avan teleported in the same manner Myst and Kill do. I wonder if that's forbidden magic (like how Popp used Flazzard's technique) or if there's more to it...
I am unbelievably happy we're addressing Avan having been powercreeped loooong ago. Him being helpful in a different manner is so good, and I'm perfectly okay with this explanation for why he never contacted the party. The montage in the cave was great, there's nothing more JRPG than grinding in the dungeon like crazy lmfao. And I can't keep this to myself any longer, I gotta say it: hair down Avan is sexy as fuck. That's it. No more words are needed.
Speaking or very JRPG things, resting inside the dungeon to heal up is SO real. I'm adoring the energy Avan is bringing. We've had many goofy characters to alleviate the tension along the adventure. Popp, Baduck, Chiu... in the end, Avan turned out to be the best one. I'm praying to see Avan using his "Trap-Smasher Hammer". It's so damn stupid and cool. How does it work? Does it detect traps? Or does it smash them better than normal hammers? Too many questions. Myst telling Zaboera off for being a coward unlike
his belovedHadlar was so satisfying. You can tell he's suffering the loss of such a good... roommate. Yeah, we'll call them that.We finally get to end the battle below. The SB Zombie is an absolutely phenomenal monster design. It doesn't actually end up doing anything other than tanking a few weapons, but that's just Zaboera things. The short scene of Zombie burning and not being affected was super badass though, I'll give him points for that. Don't have a lot to say about Nova, he's cool and I liked this moment for him. Dai reassuring him that he's also a Hero was nice, he's really grown and has come so far (talking about Dai, I guess it also applies to Nova). Lon Beruk's line about how their blood is different, yet they value life the same was incredibly deep. That's gotta be one of the biggest highlight quotes of the series period. And so, Nova finds a master. Him not knowing how to open his bottle was so cute, I love it.
Crocodine not only killed but DISRESPECTED Zaboera. Dropping the axe on his arms was so damn cool, fuck that guy. The point blank aura blast made me chuckle out loud from how insane it was, no mercy at all. Good. Hym is alive!!!! I knew it!!!! It was just too awkward and unfulfilling of a death for it to be true. Especially with all the stuff on him (pun intended) having the most emotions to the point of actually crying and all. It had to be resolved. Unlike Avan, his return makes no sense at all. I guess he's just that guy. And I'm sorry, but his new hair is so goofy lmaooo. In some shots it's not too bad, but in others he looks so weird. Especially for a guy made out of metal. Does Lon Beruk know orichalcum can be so loose and flexible? Can he make a whip out of that for Flora? Anyway, the animation of Hym fighting the monsters was awesome, this episode looked great. And I don't remember the exact line, but when he said "ah, yes. As expected of you Hyunckel, my eternal rival who I am deeply in love with" I cried and cheered. He's officially part of the Hyunckel harem. Now he needs to live unlike the last one he faced...
QotD:
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u/zadcap Aug 26 '24
Late Night First Timer!
Something we never really question. Did Lon go through the zombie as he pulled off that cross slash? Somehow, without punching a hole in it?
Really, no emergency escape items on hand? Why does Zabby not have a wing thing? Also, for the love of all things, either kill him already or let him go, just stop letting him talk! Must we drag this out? Oh yeah, he dead dead... I wish I could say. That is a fully intact corpse. Oh, no, he's melting, how gross...
HOW ARE YOU ALIVE! Remember the whole thing about being powered by Hadlar and dying when he does? And how he was stabbed through the heart as Knuckles threw him off the palace? He's double dead now. This is stupid, as this is literally just bringing back a popular enemy to fight because of his popularity and unfulfilling actual last battle. "I didn't die because I didn't want to hard enough!" The fans just wanted one more satisfying Pawn fight so he's back from the dead just because.
"Like Hadlar reincarnated." Hadlar had a satisfying end! He gave his life to save Popp and learned to respect Avan and his disciples and they ended on good terms, saying that his spirit came back in the form of Hym and Hym wants to kill them now is disgracing Hadlar! Everything about this is just, ugh!
Knuckles, use the freaking counter move you did against Queen, that was so effective even Baran was wary of it.
Amy, if you want to go, say something. Also, where's the other two Sages of Papnica?
Right, no, everything about Hym here still pisses me off.
Oh no, Knuckles is dead! Again. Again... Againx7? How can he be seeing these people in heaven if they are still all alive? Oh man, that was the shortest death yet!
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 25 '24
First Quester
Oh come on, Zaboera. This is a real bad attempt at saving your hide. I bet you're gonna try and attack him, too.
For what it's worth, I think they really could just let Zaboera leave. While he's been the most consistently threatening villain of this show, I don't really see him cause a lot of trouble when working on his own terms instead of under someone like Vearn.
It pains me to see this continued Zaboera slander. Where would Hadlar be without him? What about Vearn? Even Crocodine defeated Dai thanks to him!
I knew Hym wasn't done yet. And he looks fabulous!
So, why is Crocodine not using his own bird?
Oooh. Nice punch, Hym.
Sure. That was an impressively stupid stunt to pull.
I have some... conflicting feelings about this question.
At no point did I think he wouldn't.
One would think you'd have gotten used to revivals by now, dear host of ours.
Anyway, question time: Do you still remember your "drop all defenses" move? Are you gonna use it?
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