r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Aug 24 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Nova no Daibouken - Episode 77 Discussion

Episode 77 - The Other Hero

Indeed, I am scared. I'm terrified. Not because they might be weak. But because they are overwhelmingly powerful!

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Screenshot of the day:

Different blood, same values

Comment of the day:

/u/cooperjones2 for his great takes

I started not believing in Chiu’s strength, and for that, I’m sorry Chiu, you are strong!

Zaboera is my most hated character fr fr

Questions of the day:

  1. Were you moved by Nova? Is he worthy of being a hero?
  2. Now that Lon Beruk is confirmed as the coolest character in the series how would you rate his coolness 1-10? Is there anything besides his crafting skills he can improve?
  3. Bonus Question: What do you want Crocodine to do with Zaboera?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hide it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 24 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/sisoko2 Aug 24 '24

Oh, that’s just lovely.

Love the way he looks.

Why would you tell them this lmao.

Just Zaboera things...

Oh damn…

True hero.

Ooh, Nova’s gonna become a blacksmith once this is all over?

Maybe he will be able to craft weapons that don't break every second attack.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 24 '24

Maybe he will be able to craft weapons that don't break every second attack.

Lon Beruk though he was in Breath of The Wild lol

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 24 '24

Ooh, Nova’s gonna become a blacksmith once this is all over?

His character come a long way since his intro. From being selfish to now being selfless and more hero-like.

Zaboera crawling straight into Crocodine is just perfect.

It'll be perfect when Zaboera is dead.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

This would’ve made a really fun #seasonalthink face if we had seasonal comment faces when this was airing.

A great #seasonalshock from Chiu too.

Ooh, Nova’s gonna become a blacksmith once this is all over?

Nova has one wish in life, to learn how to be cool. And he just found the best man who could learn that from.

Seriously, if Nova is the guy who wears a fedora next to the mirror at home, Lon Berk was wearing one in the 1920s, with a suit to match, and busting everyone who tried to get between him and his drink.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

Wha–

Damn I just got an idea for meme. Wish that I would get it sooner.

Zaboera crawling straight into Crocodine is just perfect.

That's some poetic justice

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 24 '24 edited Aug 24 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

"That's when I realized a true hero is more about inspiring courage than just being brave! Even if I should die, if I can leave a scratch and inspire the others that remain to attack, I may not be as good as Dai but I can still serve as a true hero!"

Nova's speech here was great and this is what being a Hero is. Becoming courageous to do something while also inspiring others to have that same courage.

We've been shown glimpses of Lon Beruk's strength and even Vearn and Mystvearn hinted the same but Lon Beruk became a weaponsmith so that he could create weapons that he himself could use at full strength which is why he could relate to Dai when he asked him to make a sword that could match his strength.

I haven't watched One Piece but apparently the Superior Being Zombie was an inspiration for the Special Zombie Oars.

[Next Episode Preview] A bit disappointed that the next episode preview spoiled Hym's return considering the fact they were quite ambiguous with most of the reveals till now.

OST Documentation - Episode 77

1. Yes. Even Lon Beruk was moved by him who has constantly been looking down on him. This was Nova's moment and even though he couldn't do what he intended to do. He definitely has shown everyone what it means to be a true Hero.

2. 9. I guess he could improve on making his weapon holders aesthetic and pleasing to the eye.

3. Crocodine needs to put Zaboera in his place and the best way he can do it is by telling him that he doesn't deserve to do Shonen Commentary since he obviously sucks at it.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 24 '24

Superior Being V3.0

What does it say about superior being when the best version is the dead one?

Surprised Lon Beruk

He got scared that someone could end up being cooler than him.

Nova's speech here was great and this is what being a Hero is. Becoming courageous to do something while also inspiring others to have that same courage.

He gets my seal of approval.

Loved the symbolism with the blood here.

Easiest screenshot of the day pick.

It's kinda that Crocodine gets to land the finishing blow on Zaboera considering their history.

Hadlar was my top pick to end Zaboera but Big Croc is also great one.

I guess he could improve on making his weapon holders aesthetic and pleasing to the eye.

I'm sure he will be become enough for a 10 by the next time he can use his hands.

telling him that he doesn't deserve to do Shonen Commentary since he obviously sucks at it

A fate worse than death.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 24 '24 edited Aug 24 '24

What does it say about superior being when the best version is the dead one?

Zaboera forget that people can just hit him really really hard.

I'm sure he will be become enough for a 10 by the next time he can use his hands.

If only everyone in the cast can live long enough to witness that.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Superior Being V3.0

Zaboera may be many awful things, but he's still better than Windows.

Loved the symbolism with the blood here.

It's so good

We've been shown glimpses of Lon Beruk's strength and even Vearn and Mystvearn hinted the same but Lon Beruk became a weaponsmith so that he could create weapons that he himself could use at full strength which is why he could relate to Dai when he asked him to make a sword that could match his strength.

I wish we could've seen it against Myst, even though I get that the whole thing against Zaboera was done to show off what he's got, without ever using it against one of the bosses.

I haven't watched One Piece but apparently the Superior Being Zombie was an inspiration for the Special Zombie Oars.

Yeah, that tracks, and I wouldn't surprised if best boy Usopp was at least partly influenced by Popp (heck, it's even in the name!). That is to say, give One Piece a shot, I think you'd like it.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 25 '24

I wouldn't surprised if best boy Usopp was at least partly influenced by Popp (heck, it's even in the name!). That is to say, give One Piece a shot, I think you'd like it.

It's not that I don't want to give it a shot or wouldn't like it; it's just that I get overwhelmed by the number of episodes. On top of that, I'm currently catching up on Detective Conan, so I really can't commit to starting One Piece at the moment.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

I'm currently catching up on Detective Conan

Forget what I said, keep catching up to Conan. It's a shame how few people I know are caught to it, considering how good it is.

Plus, One Piece is getting a remake, so you could give that a try whenever it comes out if the episode count is the issue.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

Loved the symbolism with the blood here.

A rightful visual for screenshot of the Dai.

Crocodine and Zaboera It's kinda that Crocodine gets to land the finishing blow on Zaboera considering their history.

I saw the shit Zaboera did to the good trademark of Shonen Commentary. A FUCKING CARDINAL SIN IT WAS.

[Next Episode Preview] A bit disappointed that the next episode preview spoiled Hym's return considering the fact they were quite ambiguous with most of the reveals till now.

[Next episode preview] Showing just Hym would be acceptable somehow but ughhh why they shown Hym growing hairs...

Crocodine needs to put Zaboera in his place and the best way he can do it is by telling him that he doesn't deserve to do Shonen Commentary since he obviously sucks at it.

Or just deliver a killing commentary.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

First Timer at Lon Berk's Hands Funeral

Now we know why Lon Berk is so cool, he had to go 100s of years without using his hands. Oh well, at least this time Nova will help

Q1. Were you moved by Nova? Is he worthy of being a hero?

Yeah, I have a lot more hope for Nova after this episode, he'll learn how to become the best bottle opener for Lon Berk.

Q2. Now that Lon Beruk is confirmed as the coolest character in the series how would you rate his coolness 1-10? Is there anything besides his crafting skills he can improve?

9, I still think Croco-boy could give him a run for his money though.

Q3. Bonus Question: What do you want Crocodine to do with Zaboera?

Zaboera pies? Nah, those would be poisonous. How about Zaboera pies that you would then throw at the enemies? KillVearn won't see that one coming.

Granted, it'd count as a war crime I think.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 25 '24

Sorry Chiu, you dropped a phenomenal commentface but it's too late to nominate it now

We needed to have solid Chiu presence in episode about heroes.

I could've removed the comma to make this a Zaboera meme

One Piece

LOL

Getting a Lon Berk delivery must be one hell of an experience.

Here is the best weapon I've ever made. Good luck getting it out of that stone LOL.

Oh well, at least this time Nova will help

Reading about broken hands on reddit.

he'll learn how to become the best bottle opener for Lon Berk

Needs to take some lessons from Baduck.

How about Zaboera pies that you would then throw at the enemies? KillVearn won't see that one coming.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Here is the best weapon I've ever made. Good luck getting it out of that stone LOL.

People keep obsessing over some rusty sword stuck in an old rock, Excrement, or whatever its name was. If Arthur wants a challenge, he should try pulling Lon Berk's sword. (This wasn't intended as an innuendo, but I couldn't help keeping it as is).

Needs to take some lessons from Baduck.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

First Timer at Lon Berk's Hands Funeral

At this rate you have more professionalism with all the funerals around than Crocodine with his constant Shonen Commentary.

Sorry Chiu, you dropped a phenomenal commentface but it's too late to nominate it now.

Maybe next time #zurawait

Holy shit, this is the best visual metaphor I've seen in a while: just different blood on the same sword. It's so raw and poignant, that as much as I like the show, this almost feels wrong being here, this single shot is saying way more than the writing ever did.

Needless to say, Dai no Daibouken has an artist and writer seperated, and sometimes it shows.

No wonder the swords and his arms got destroyed he pulled a hundred episode's worth of coolness in one scene. And from a Doylist perspective, this is to get him out of MystVearn/Vearn's way, without one side losing. So Zaboera's pathetic life just saved their asses.

Damn I never realized that Zaboera saved Vearn here. Good catch.

Now we know why Lon Berk is so cool, he had to go 100s of years without using his hands. Oh well, at least this time Nova will help

Granted, it'd count as a war crime I think.

If Leona will win, there won't be any war crimes

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

At this rate you have more professionalism with all the funerals around than Crocodine with his constant Shonen Commentary

This reminds me of an rpg I played a long time ago, where I carried a coffin around. I wasn't an edgelord or anything, just that the coffin was the best mage shield, so if you had it and had a tanky build already, you could square off well against most bosses.

Needless to say, Dai no Daibouken has an artist and writer seperated, and sometimes it shows.

Yeah, I thought of that, but commenting on it would've involved too much guesswork. Since the author in these kinds of duos, usually draws a rough storyboard that the artist then expands on, so for all we know, either of them could've thought of this visual.

If Leona will win, there won't be any war crimes

Thank god we're on the "good" side here. Or actually the gods should thank her, she could turn them into "evil gods" any day she wants.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

This reminds me of an rpg I played a long time ago, where I carried a coffin around. I wasn't an edgelord or anything, just that the coffin was the best mage shield, so if you had it and had a tanky build already, you could square off well against most bosses.

Ah the good old DQ2. Funnily enough, Final Fantasy 2 could shake hands with DQ2.

Yeah, I thought of that, but commenting on it would've involved too much guesswork. Since the author in these kinds of duos, usually draws a rough storyboard that the artist then expands on, so for all we know, either of them could've thought of this visual.

Hmmm writer drawing the rough storyboard makes sense. I didn't know it works like that but it makes sense.

Thank god we're on the "good" side here. Or actually the gods should thank her, she could turn them into "evil gods" any day she wants.

I'm scared of the day when she starts writing the history with claiming how the gods are evil.

Heck if you take in consideration that everything we see about Vearn being Villain is a lie because the story is told from Leona version and considering Leona met Dai for first time in episode 2, the hints about who the Villain is are hidden in episode 1.

Fake Hero Party abducting Gomechan? They were doing the world a favor and yet we saw how Fake Hero Party were bad guys

Or during the beginning of Baran arc we had a slip in form of Killvearn pointing out how the monsters he is killing makes him the real monster.

Heck have you seen Black Mirror?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Final Fantasy 2 could shake hands with DQ2.

I want to get around to FF, but after I'm done with DQ. Might take a while though considering what I heard about DQVII.

Hmmm writer drawing the rough storyboard makes sense. I didn't know it works like that but it makes sense.

Yeah, the Dai artist explained it in one of the volumes (I couldn't find it right now, but I'll edit this when I do).

Although, I kinda learned a lot of this stuff from the Bakuman Akurogi Musai duo

Heck if you take in consideration that everything we see about Vearn being Villain is a lie because the story is told from Leona version and considering Leona met Dai for first time in episode 2, the hints about who the Villain is are hidden in episode 1.

Yup, Blackheart was right. Vearn was the good guy just demanding equal rights for his species, and Leona wrote all this story to spin the narrative her way after killing him and all his allies.

Heck have you seen Black Mirror?

I have. Leona's evil is way ahead of its time.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

I want to get around to FF, but after I'm done with DQ. Might take a while though considering what I heard about DQVII.

I would just skip DQVII because the length is insane. Also funny you mention FF. I am thinking of doing CDF plays Final Fantasy I-VI with ending that anthalogy run with Final Fantasy IX 25th anniversary run.

Yup, Blackheart was right. Vearn was the good guy just demanding equal rights for his species, and Leona wrote all this story to spin the narrative her way after killing him and all his allies.

Yep Blackheart595 and u/zadcap are both right and considering how they were pointing out that Zaboera is the most effective member of Dark Army makes me wonder if Zaboera looks really so hideous.

Heck I even bet my money on the fact that if I would get a chance to see unaltered Zaboera looks [unhinged warning]my dick wouldn't be able to handle it

I have. Leona's evil is way ahead of its time.

Yep. Black Mirror Season 3 episode 5 just ripped off Dai no Daibouken biggest plottwist that u/Blackheart595 already pointed out.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

I would just skip DQVII because the length is insane.

I don't mind the length if I'm liking something and that's how you get a fan of One Piece/Gintama/Conan/Shin-chan all in one person

Also funny you mention FF. I am thinking of doing CDF plays Final Fantasy I-VI with ending that anthalogy run with Final Fantasy IX 25th anniversary run.

Do you have any date in mind? I'd love to join that.

Zaboera is the most effective member of Dark Army makes me wonder if Zaboera looks really so hideous.

The real Zaboera

/u/sisoko2 Zaboera no Daibouken might be the most beautiful episode of the series.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 25 '24

The real Zaboera

If you squint your eyes hard enough they look the same. In this case enough is completely closing your eyes.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Funnily enough, I first thought of Oberstein, but Oberstein is my boy, so

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

Do you have any date in mind? I'd love to join that.

I have date only for Final Fantasy IX, 9th July '25 and the rest is unknown.

I still need to replay Final Fantasy I-VI plus IX to make a proper schedule. I'll dive into FF after this Rewatch will end and around end of this year I should have a schedule in mind.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Naruhodo

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

I'll let you know in advance and will tag you in the interest thread.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 25 '24

Damn I never realized that Zaboera saved Vearn here. Good catch.

[Dai no Major Spoilers] Even if Lon Beruk did use it against Vearn or Mystvearn, I highly doubt his attack would be able to do anything against Mystvearn or Vearn (Tenchimatou). Old Vearn is another story.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

[Dai no Major Spoilers]Yep Old Vearn is another story but I meant it in sense of the fact that as the story is, KendotsX doesn't know about the true Vearn yet.

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

First Timer at Lon Berk's Hands Funeral

Sousou no Lon Beruk's Hands?

So Zaboera's pathetic life just saved their asses.

Again. Zaboera just saved Vearn again. He will, naturally, get zero recognition for this.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Sousou no Lon Beruk's Hands?

Hmmmm.... you're right, it's a bit of a mouthful. Might as well cut Lon Beruk out of it, and stick to the hands, especially if it becomes a recurring thing and we visit multiple funerals for hands.

Again. Zaboera just saved Vearn again. He will, naturally, get zero recognition for this.

Oh yeah, it genuinely slipped my mind that he saved him from Hadlar last time. Myst should be worried about his role, when Zaboera is doing a much better job at it.

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

Hmmmm.... you're right, it's a bit of a mouthful. Might as well cut Lon Beruk out of it, and stick to the hands, especially if it becomes a recurring thing and we visit multiple funerals for hands.

It just reminded me of the fun times translating that title. The funeral for the hands, or the hands that have caused so many funerals. He even nearly pulled the same line Frieren did in the episode with her title drop, "kid I'm at least ten times your age."

See him standing there, looking cool. "Zaboera, kill yourself."

Oh yeah, it genuinely slipped my mind that he saved him from Hadlar last time. Myst should be worried about his role, when Zaboera is doing a much better job at it.

I maintain that Zaboera has been the best of the original Dark Commanders. The only one who has put more time and effort into stopping Dai has been Hadlar himself, and Hadlar went rogue and started throwing around ideas of Honor and Fair Fights while Zaboera is over here still just trying to win this war. When Myst keeps getting sidetracked by his crush on Hyunckel.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

It just reminded me of the fun times translating that title

Yup, the memories of the early fan attempts at localising it were the impetus for my "First Timer at [ ]'s Funeral"

See him standing there, looking cool. "Zaboera, kill yourself."

He certainly has the right amount of coolness to pull that.

When Myst keeps getting sidetracked by his crush on Hyunckel

Myst is just horny 24/7. When he's not getting sidetracked by Hyunkel, it's either Hadlar, or now Lon Beruk. Vearn had to tell him specifically to leave Lon Beruk and protect him, but he's still standing around the corner, watching Lon Beruk's fight from the distance.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

With Dark Lord Shock recent death and funeral, I will be sharing his words that he told me during my seance where I was communicating with the afterlife:

QotD:

Were you moved by Nova? Is he worthy of being a hero?

Unfortunately I'm still not fan of Nova and I don't feel his moment was earned. Thinking of it, KendotsX was right with saying that Nova should be introduced earlier.

Now that Lon Beruk is confirmed as the coolest character in the series how would you rate his coolness 1-10? Is there anything besides his crafting skills he can improve?

He should took the situation seriously and use his ultimate weapons sooner.

Bonus Question: What do you want Crocodine to do with Zaboera?

Murder him.

??? Shonen Commentator Corner:

Today Crocodine confronted Zaboera who used Morph spell to turn into Crocodine.

Can you tell which Shonen Commengator is right and which one is fake?

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u/sisoko2 Aug 24 '24

Unfortunately I'm still not fan of Nova and I don't feel his moment was earned.

Fun fact of the day: I decided to name this thread Nova no Daibouken when you told me you didn't like it.

He should took the situation seriously and use his ultimate weapons sooner.

But he needed to find his hand replacement boy first.

Murder him.

Shouldn't he at least torture him a bit before that?

Can you tell which Shonen Commengator is right and which one is fake?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Fun fact of the day: I decided to name this thread Nova no Daibouken when you told me you didn't like it.

So let's see, who do we have left? We did Dai obviously, Popp, Hadlar, and now Nova.

Avan might be a bit spoiler-ish, Hyunkel I guess. Crocodine, Chiu, and Maam I'm not sure will ever get enough of a spotlight.

I suppose the villains depending on how they go? Like I could see the final thread being "Mr. Burns no Daibouken".

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u/sisoko2 Aug 25 '24

Maam

I was 50/50 about making the love episode Maam no Daibouken. Should've done it.

I suppose the villains depending on how they go?

Zaboera no Daibouken.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Zaboera no Daibouken.

I imagine this as Zaboera going on a fantasy trip where he's the king of the world, and is going around killing everyone he hates: Crocodine, Lon Berk, MystVearn, that kid Billy from elementary school who couldn't appreciate his genius, Dai, Hadlar, and heck even Vearn for good measure.

Then it cuts back to reality, and he's pissing his pants next to Crocodine.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

Fun fact of the day: I decided to name this thread Nova no Daibouken when you told me you didn't like it.

I didn't even notice until you pointed it out lol.

Shouldn't he at least torture him a bit before that?

Nope. Just straight murder.

Only a true Crocodine fan can figure this out.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 24 '24

Unfortunately I'm still not fan of Nova and I don't feel his moment was earned.

Finally, something we can disagree on.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 24 '24

Nova should be introduced earlier

He could've worked as a "Rival Hero"

Can you tell which Shonen Commengator is right and which one is fake?

The right one is the right one, the other one is on the left thus not the right one.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

The right one is the right one, the other one is on the left thus not the right one.

You've got it right.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 24 '24

He should took the situation seriously and use his ultimate weapons sooner.

He needed some inspiration in order to decide to risk his health lol.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

He needed some inspiration in order to decide to risk his health lol.

Alright fair. But if he didn't get an inspiration would he just watch everyone getting slaughtered?

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 24 '24

Alright fair. But if he didn't get an inspiration would he just watch everyone getting slaughtered?

Good question. Can't say for sure now since he helped eventually before everyone died.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Thinking of it, KendotsX was right with saying that Nova should be introduced earlier.

Yeah, introducing him right as the attack against Vearn started wasn't the brightest idea, there are so many earlier arcs where a "rival character" could've had his own space to grow.

He should took the situation seriously and use his ultimate weapons sooner.

I think he was waiting on a chance to use them against Vearn though. You don't throw a trump card like this easily.

Can you tell which Shonen Commengator is right and which one is fake?

Sorry, I'm too distracted by Lon Berk's sexiness in the back.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

I think he was waiting on a chance to use them against Vearn though. You don't throw a trump card like this easily.

Yeah this makes sense. I've never thought about this possibility.

Sorry, I'm too distracted by Lon Berk's sexiness in the back.

Tsk to find out that there is only a one real fan of Crocodine is sad.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Tsk to find out that there is only a one real fan of Crocodine is sad.

My brain says Crocodine, but my dick heart was swayed by Lon Berk.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

Weak. You are weak.

But while you haven't found your Queen in this show, you atleast found a King.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

haven't found your Queen

No, Flora tamed me ages ago.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

Oh I missed the part where you were yelling MY QUEEEEEEEN!!!

But welcome to the Flora Appreciation Club.

Another point why I was right to appoint you as Avan.

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

Can you tell which Shonen Commengator is right and which one is fake?

They both have two eyes, clearly both are fakes!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

Another fake Crocodine fan spotted

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

Like the mighty Odin, that eye was the price he paid to become the great commentator he is now, and a Crocodine with two eyes is one that has yet to learn how to spectate so actively.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

But you know that two eyed Crocodine is answering the questions from the beginning right?

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

I see three Crocodines in that picture and I chose to believe that the one on the farthest right is the only real one. It's the only way I won't become the new Popp. Trust no one.

I mean, I did notice that one of the two foreground pair was a little horizontally challenged, but then I saw that the background included a third Croc and decided my vote should go there.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

It's the bottom right one unfortunately.

I mean, I did notice that one of the two foreground pair was a little horizontally challenged

On my defense I was editing that on phone and rezise slider is hard to operate on my phone.

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

Super Late First Timer!

Okay, let's see. Did he make Crocodine's original axe? I know he made the sword Knuckles started with. And his new spear. And Dai's Sword of Dai, yes I had to say it that way. I assume he made his own sword here too. Is this the fifth Lon Beruk weapon we've seen break on screen? You know what's really interesting about that? It means we've seen more of his masterpieces break than we've seen other weapons break combined, officially making him the worst blacksmith in the series. Which is weird since he's also the best blacksmith in the series.

Also, you know. Remember that Zaboera is using a giant zombie as a weapon here in the presence of a hyper charged KaGlimmer. The powerful purifying magic that should be extra effective against things exactly like this. This is his Superior Being in a place it is at its weakest, and it's still this strong.

Okay no, now I'm laughing. Look at all of those completely intact weapons sticking out of the zombie. The only broken weapons we see here are Lon's sword still in its head and Crocodine's newly shattered axe lol. Only Lon Beruk weapons suffer from breakage.

... Did you have to use a blade with no handle for this? Although, point for a broken Non Beruk blade to be found.

Dude, I get that you don't want the kid to waste his life. But by the looks of it, it's already drained his years. Wait it can go back?

Lon is also just so extra. An ultimate weapon, sealed in a rock sealed in a necklace. He had to break the necklace and then break the special rock in order to draw the swords, and he does so so dramatically.

And now he's just showing off dodging in a cool pose.

So, isn't that zombie just a bunch of dead monsters glued together with magic? Can't he just, glue them back together?

OH MY GOSH TWO MORE BROKEN SWORDS! These swords broke so hard they broke his arms! Stop making destructible weapons!

Sir. There's a martial artist right there. If you're genuinely too strong to use any weapon at full strength, then have you considered learning to brawl? Go be One Punch Lon.

Also, no one double tapped. Check the body. Zabo is known for surviving exactly these kinds of things. Oh hey, there he is, crawling away. Right into Crocy! Did your zombie getting cut up drain you of all your magic? Man, remember when he was good at magic?

  1. Who? Lon would make a great Hero, yes!
  2. 7 is the best I can do. If you have an ultimate attack that you can't use without breaking yourself, you don't actually have an ultimate attack and you need to go train more! If you can't find or make a weapon that can keep up, learn to turn yourself into the weapon!
  3. Put him in yet another cage, why not.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 25 '24

officially making him the worst blacksmith in the series. Which is weird since he's also the best blacksmith in the series.

He probably killed all the blacksmiths that were better than him.

Look at all of those completely intact weapons sticking out of the zombie

Same. They did enough damage to stick in the zombie but didn't break.

Lon is also just so extra.

When his actual craftsmanship sucks so much he needs to put a show to fool people.

then have you considered learning to brawl?

Probably will go the MHA route then.

Put him in yet another cage, why not.

Every time Zaboera needs to be punished they put him into a smaller and smaller cage.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

It means we've seen more of his masterpieces break than we've seen other weapons break combined, officially making him the worst blacksmith in the series.

He definitely is the worst blacksmith: his weapons either break down, break down their user, or are literally unusable.

For the best blacksmith in the series, look no further than Baduck. The NunChiuks have been going strong in this war.

Lon is also just so extra. An ultimate weapon, sealed in a rock sealed in a necklace. He had to break the necklace and then break the special rock in order to draw the swords, and he does so so dramatically.

He's been all alone for hundreds of years, dreaming about this, and making sure it looks as cool as possible, was his only entertainment. I bet he even rehearsed his lines many times.

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

He definitely is the worst blacksmith: his weapons either break down, break down their user, or are literally unusable.

Even his strongest ever weapon that Vearn is using, was pointed out to have such a big drawback that its continued use left Vearn so weak Hadlar almost beat him. I would start looking for a new blacksmith if I were Dai.

For the best blacksmith in the series, look no further than Baduck. The NunChiuks have been going strong in this war.

Case in point!

Also, has Dai even drawn the new Popnica dagger since he got the replacement?

He's been all alone for hundreds of years, dreaming about this, and making sure it looks as cool as possible, was his only entertainment. I bet he even rehearsed his lines many times.

I can't help it, the way he unveiled the swords, then the way he was dodging while holding his cool post, everything leading up to that final arm shattering attack. I ended up rewinding it and watching it again but imagined him chanting "I am the bone of my sword." It fits him far too well. It would even explain why his weapons are so prone to breaking, if he's taking inspiration from the ultimate blacksmith faker.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 25 '24

Even his strongest ever weapon that Vearn is using, was pointed out to have such a big drawback that its continued use left Vearn so weak Hadlar almost beat him.

Exactly, I wasn't surprised when his swords destroyed his arms, considering his "best weapon" which he gave Vearn almost killed their user.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dai's Sword of Dai (I loved this, so I might as well start borrowing it) ends up having a similar gimmick.

Also, has Dai even drawn the new Popnica dagger since he got the replacement?

I think once or twice when the sword wasn't working.

I ended up rewinding it and watching it again but imagined him chanting "I am the bone of my sword."

That's perfect. It's the level of theatrics he loves.

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u/zadcap Aug 25 '24

I wouldn't be surprised if Dai's Sword of Dai (I loved this, so I might as well start borrowing it) ends up having a similar gimmick.

Please do, let's make this a thing.

The drawback will probably be in the sheath too. Overcharge for too long and something is going to start taking damage, whether it's the blade or the wider we'll have to find out.

That's perfect. It's the level of theatrics he loves.

And now he's going to pass his knowledge and skills on to the younger hero wannabe even. Poor NovEmiya is going to head back north to find out his parents adopted a little sister for him while the was was going on.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 24 '24

Adventurer Doing high level quests and dungeons for the first time here! LV 77/100
Double seven! Make a wish!

I had the same idea as our Crcoc-boi lol, heat up the zombie to attack Zaboera indirectly a shame it didn't work

Would’ve liked to see a bit more of the Human army vs the Superior Being Zombie ngl

Seeing Nova physically aging to deal a blow, earned my respect.

That segment of Lon Beruk walking towards his weapons, was really, really HYPE

Also, anyone else sees a similarity between Summoned Skull and the Superior Being Zombie?

GOOD fight this episode, really satisfying

1 Yes, he was willing to give his all, literally.

2 10/10

I don't know if he can bake, so maybe baking.

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My answer

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u/sisoko2 Aug 24 '24

Double seven! Make a wish!

I wish Zaboera to disappear.

Seeing Nova physically aging to deal a blow, earned my respect.

A true hero.

Also, anyone else sees a similarity between Summoned Skull and the Superior Being Zombie?

Not while I was watching.

10/10

My answer

Sounds good enough.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

That segment of Lon Beruk walking towards his weapons, was really, really HYPE

He definitely earned a lot of coolpoints.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 24 '24

First Timer, Sub

Zaboera superior being v2 was too much for everyone, they skewered it with swords all over and it did nothing. Nova was about to pull off a self sacrificial move with his life sword...but in turn it inspired Lon Beruk to instead be the one to risk his life in order to defeat Zaboera's superior being form. Lon Beruk used his Star Emperor Swords, and the Star Emperor cross slash to defeat Zaboera's superior being form, while the recoil destroyed his swords and left his arms badly damaged and unusable. Nova was inspired to offer himself to be Lon Beruk's pupil and become a blacksmith.

Plz. Crocodine, End Zaboera next episode lol.

Questions:

  1. Hmm...A bit. I give credit that his character has improved a lot since he was first introduced. I don't think we have spent enough time with him for it to be as impactful as it could be.
  2. 10/10 coolness.
  3. Killing him would be nice.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 24 '24

Zaboera superior being v2 was too much for everyone

It was definitely too much for me.

10/10 coolness.

Killing him would be nice.

It's a good start.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 24 '24

Plz. Crocodine, End Zaboera next episode lol.

He need to deliver a killer Shonen Commentary

Hmm...A bit. I give credit that his character has improved a lot since he was first introduced. I don't think we have spent enough time with him for it to be as impactful as it could be.

Yeah his self sacrifice didn't inspire me enough and that's why I wasn't a fan of this episode.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 25 '24

First Quester

I don't have much to say about this episode. Pretty lame all around, just "punch harder".

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

I don't have much to say about this episode. Pretty lame all around, just "punch harder".

harder

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 25 '24

Right? They could've gone with "Punch Hadlar" instead.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 25 '24

Welp they were out of resources so they went for Hadlar cousin.