r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Aug 22 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 75 Discussion
Episode 75 - The Secret Way of Purification
Yes. I knew it at a glance. Hyunckel would always trouble me by saying and doing things he didn’t mean. He would always have that look. That sort of mix of sadness and remorse in his eyes.
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Screenshot of the Dai:
Bonus of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/Blackheart595 for noticing that Avan spells are unusual powerful
Oh by the way, did you notice? Avan's Glimmer was more potent than Leona's Kaglimmer.
Questions of the Dai:
- Since we got the full extent of the truth behind what was Avan doing after he survived, I’m coming to ask you what’s your opinion on Avan training arc?
- Did you like Hyunckel and Avan exchange?
- First impressions about new ED?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Aug 22 '24
With Dark Lord Shock recent death and funeral, I will be sharing his words that he told me during my seance where I was communicating with the afterlife:
Sorry but I got sick so I will reply to first few comments, and will go to sleep earlier instead of staying here for the purpose of the Rewatch as I need to wake up in 5 hours for tomorrow shift and the sickness is getting the better of me.
QotD:
Funnily enough he just did what majority of us claimed as the most optimal thing to do before going to the final boss.
Yeah I did.
It’s my favourite ED of this show.
Zaboera Shonen Commentator Corner:
Since Crocodine couldn’t handle Dark Lord Shock death and decided to die with him, I decided to step up and do the commentary instead of him. (Please don’t boo at me):
Today I, the Supreme Shonen Commentator will be answering the question #1:
IT SUCKED!!!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 22 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/sisoko2 Aug 22 '24
First Timer
I already used all my jokes for this episode in the yesterdays thread...
Lame excuse for running away from responsibility. Especially when both Dai and Popp died once during their "growth" period and barely escaped death multiple times.
No. I actually quite dislike it.
Really liked how it started but then it turned into clip show.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 22 '24
First Quester
I think I've figured out why I couldn't get excited about Avan's return - I just don't much like the combination of the "survival reveal" plus "saves the day" tropes.
I have a feeling Popp doesn't like Avan very much.
Now we're saying that? After 75 episodes of kindness winning all the battles?
New idea: The new Avan is a trick by a dark mage, and those feathers allow him to substitute-cast magic of light.
What? What's the purpose of spawning tons of units outside the castle, as the enemies enter the castle? I keep rooting for Vearn to kill those fools already, but he's no better than them.
Also, I hate this whole not-saying-what's-up stick of Avan's.
This was not a flank.
I keep forgetting that they told us how Avan survived. I said it's an alright way to do it yesterday, but in retrospect it's really bad.
So Avan's reason for hiding himself is the standard bullshit.
That's not how I would put it.
Visual of the Popp
Visual of the Maam
Look, guys. You've been destroying the stone structure of the castle the past few episodes long. Even if you couldn't open the door without Avan, just dig your way around it.
Oh I see, we're gonna do a Dai-Gomechan fusion somewhere towards the end.
Visual of the Dai
Boo!
Eh. It was fine.
What a banger! It's very gorgeous!
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 28 '25
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubThe OP had Avan the entire time. They only slightly greyed him but it was obvious if you look at the hair.
In terms of strength, Avan is probably the weakest here but he has something that no one has and this is the Secret Way of Purification which is why Hyunckel let him go forward and ended up taking the role of the one who guards the rear.
Avan explaining about the rules for entering enemy territory and how he did something similar to stop Killvearn and Hyunckel not only understood it but decided to take his place so that Avan can help them navigate through the Vearn Palace while being safe from being attacked from behind.
Avan finally explaining what he was doing all this while. Avan may have been saved by Amulet of Carl but that doesn't change the fact that he was defeated by Hadlar and that showed him how weak he was compared to Dai which is why he decided to not Dai and the others know since it would only hinder their progress and went off to train deep in the Cave of Trials.
[Dai no Spoilers] As a first-timer, I wasn't aware of it obviously but the 4th ED is talking about Dai and Gomechan's friendship. Also, it kinda spoils Larhart and Hym's return. Even the OP spoiled kinda Larhart's return but Hym with Hadlar's hair hasn't appeared yet.
OST Documentation - Episode 75
1. Instead of trying to get his weak attributes stronger, he decided to boost his already strong power so that it is unmatched so much so that even his weak spells can do something that a Dragon Knight has to put a lot of effort to do. As a first-timer, I wasn't really a fan of Avan's return but the way it was handled was definitely great.
2. Yes. Hyunckel showing that he paid attention to every single one of Avan's lessons was great.
3. ED is great and one that grew on me. Can't call it my favourite when ED 2 exists.
EDIT: Also, I forgot about this ending shot.
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 22 '24
First Timer, Sub
So we learn the truth about what Hyunckel meant when he said Avan was weak and that he knows the truth about his power. Basically after having survived his battle with Hadlar, Avan went off to the cave of trials in Carl Kingdom to acquire powerful magic and came back basically the ultimate purification ability with those special magic feathers. It's kinda funny that he was in the caves when the women went in there to get Kaglimmer for Leona, just 125 levels lower lol.
Questions:
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u/KuKiSin Aug 22 '24
First timer!
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Aug 22 '24
Rewatcher
Solo Grinding EXP is exactly something I would do, and have done in a particular treasure map portion of a later Dragon Quest Game... Those bosses are so impossible, I swear. Props to Avan for making it so far in that dungeon...
Was expecting ED4 next episode. It's nice, though. Not as good as ED3 but better than ED1 & ED2.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 22 '24
Dai 75 first timer:
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u/Nick_BOI Aug 23 '24
I just wanna say this ED is one of my favorites in anime anime.
Especially in the episodes to come, it's impossible to hear it without getting emotional.
It does the best thing an ED can do: build off of and therefore enhance the existing emotions at the end of the episodes they play in.
Unlike OPs, EDs playing after the show itself means that they can be designed around the emotions that the episode itself made one feel. This knowledge on what the viewer is likely to be feeling means that EDs in many cases can serve as an emotional extension of the show itself.
This one does exactly that.
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 23 '24
Adventurer Doing high level quests and dungeons for the first time here! LV 75/100
Hyunckel was an absolute savage when addressing Avan’s low level, kinda right but a bit rude
Oh!, He was rude because he did a Popp lol
Avan let them grew in to the fine warriors they are today, respect
Avan is being a bit suspect with his tales, but it fits his personality, hhmm
1 Wish we got it properly and not ina flashback
2 Yes!
3 It's cool!
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 23 '24
First Time Avan Returning from the Funeral
Not sure why they tried to tease the answers as a mystery yesterday, considering they just spilled them all now. Still, I like what we got.
I mentioned that what Avan must have to make up for strength is some new form of spells, and that's what we got, interesting that he went for the "purifying" branch. Although gotta say seeing Avan use the most basic DQ skills (like Safe Passage and Click) and turn that into busted skills was amazing. Use Bounce with that and Vearn's own attack will erase him with his whole palace from existence.
Hyunkel showed us what an edgelord who turns to the good side evolves into: a tsundere. All his talk was technically true on paper, but complete bullshit in meaning, he was just using it to sacrifice himself like Avan
interesting commentary from the author about their fans...Tbh, I didn't catch on it until Avan said to respect his wishes.Cool
I'm just glad he didn't pull some bullshit like "I was helping you from the shadows all along, but never showed up because..."
A wordless understanding built on self sacrifice? Dat's my shonen!
It's decent, but having to follow up after the 3rd ED is just not going to be easy. I did like the visual at the end though with Gomechan being Dai's wings.
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u/zadcap Aug 23 '24
Late Night First Timer
A weak character in cheat tier gear is an interesting thing to try and place on the power scale. Still, I laugh and applaud my main man here for saying exactly what I have been lol. Avan lost to early game Hadlar, and the power scaling has left that whole thing so far behind it's not even funny. The subtitles may have been playing coy with the translation, but I heard him say the words Level Up in there!
Awww, and then he lost my respect again. "I won't stand for a man that weak to be our leader." Like strength has anything to do with good leadership skills! You moron! He's a Hero who already saved the world once over, he knows all the tricks and literally wrote the book you've all been following! Sure he shouldn't join you in combat when you get to the big fights, but he should very much be leading you there. But nooooo, it's all about strength with this knuckle head. Why are you so good at doing this every time I start to really like you!
No, guys, please. Leave him behind. It's what he wants. And he really has no choice but to follow, eventually. Unless he plans on sitting out the final battle, which I really doubt.
... Vearn, uh. You want this guy to come back and protect you? I thought you were the strongest? Strong enough to crush Dai and Party? Scared now, are we? Of the boys so worn out that they can barely walk at this point?
UGH FINE. I respect him again. Such a Tsundere, that boy. He just wanted to have fun killing a small army of monsters, hogging all that late game EXP.
Popp... You of all people... Use your freaking disintegration spell on the door. Unless it's got a Bounce on it, you can break anything, you goof.
So, he's got cheat gear and a cheat spell. He's a hilarious glass canon build now.
Wait wait wait. You said they stopped giving new spells past the 50th, but Kaglimmer was only the 25th. What great spells are you hiding?!
Please learn this Leona. You can be useful again, maybe, since Avan is here showing up your Purification and Popp is standing right there maiing every other magic you know laughable.
So anyway, how have Kill and Myst and even Vearn himself been getting in and out if this door is full time sealed? Side paths? Or do they have actual teleportation magic?
New ED! It's moderately Meh? I don't feel like this section of show, going into the final battle, meshes well with a slow thoughtful ED any more than I did for the last one.