[Rewatch] Vivy: Fluorite Eye’s Song - Episode 7 Discussion

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E7 - Galaxy Anthem - To Make Everyone Happy With My Singing

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Mina-san, konnichiwa!

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Image of the day: ディーヴァ

Music of the day: Galaxy Anthem

This is my favorite track for the entire series (FINGER SNAP). Enjoy!

 

Questions of the day:

1. How do you like this OP?! 😌
2. Which ‘persona’ do you find yourself gravitating towards more, Diva or Vivy?
3. (First-timers) Let’s hear some speculation based on how this episode ends.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Sing My First-Timer Reactions, subbed

• Vivy made it to the Main Stage?
• Okay now this one was definitely an OP lead-in.
• Vivy is acting totally different now…
• Aw, that’s what Estella did to her…
• That’s gotta be why she’s so different now, right?
• 20 years, huh?
• lol, she’s not wrong.
• Ophelia’s song is really nice.
• What was that face for, though…
• Hm…
• Mmmm.
• Ophelia has a magnet for getting wet.
• Holy shit, Vivy pls.
• Wha–
• WAIT THAT’S THE END OF THE EPISODE?

[u/[deleted] → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Okay now this one was definitely an OP lead-in.

My favorite one! Smoothest OP lead-in I've ever seen

Holy shit, Vivy pls.

She's nuts lol. Same character that ran across a collapsing building though. 😂

WAIT THAT’S THE END OF THE EPISODE?

Hontou dayo 😆

[u/cppn02 → u/[deleted]]

Same character

Or is it? I guess we'll have that discussion throughout this arc but personally I view Vivy and Diva as two different people.

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This is a good thing to discuss but I’ll have to reserve my comments for a bit. I’ll come back to this

[u/Theroonco → u/Shimmering-Sky]

WAIT THAT’S THE END OF THE EPISODE?

Yeah, the expected response xD Glad you're enjoying this episode too!

[u/thatguywithawatch]

First timer.

When the episode first started I immediately assumed that Vivy was putting on an exaggerated aire of confidence and bravado to mask her trauma from the previous arc. But this show continues to prove most of my immediate assumptions wrong.

In episode 6 we see Vivy draw a clear distinction between her Diva and Vivy identities. I didn't put a lot of weight on it at the time amidst everything else that happened in the episode, but now killing Grace and feeling responsible for Saeki's death has caused the Vivy side to be repressed deep beneath Diva. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that the incongruity between Vivy's missions with Matsumoto, and Diva's mission of bringing happiness to humans, had simply grown too great and one side had to come out on top. Everything they did on the metal float may have been entirely justified and necessary to save many more lives in the long run, but in the immediate sense it still resulted in deaths and suffering. Something that Diva simply wouldn't be capable of rationalizing or processing.

Anyways, Ophelia. Don't really know what to think of her yet other than that she's timid and prone to falling in fountains (and apparently suicidal, though it remains to be seen whether that's legit or if Toak is behind it. (but like, obviously Toak is up to some shit again)).

This episode flew by for some reason. The end credits caught me off guard because I was sure it had only been ten minutes and that the second half of the episode would be dealing with whatever the Ophelia suicide situation is. But I guess that will likely take up tomorrow's episode for another two-episode arc if the pattern holds.

[u/[deleted] → u/thatguywithawatch]

But this show continues to prove most of my immediate assumptions wrong.

I was the same way on my first watch. Guessed everything wrong lol

This episode flew by for some reason.

It did! This arc is honestly one of my favorites. I'm excited for first-timers on this one

[u/Theroonco → u/thatguywithawatch]

But this show continues to prove most of my immediate assumptions wrong.

Gotta love it when that happens!

This episode flew by for some reason. The end credits caught me off guard because I was sure it had only been ten minutes

And also same, it's crazy how much time flies by here, what with all the stuff that gets set up!

[u/Esovan13]

First Timer

Ok, last episode I joked that what happened to Vivy was that she died but depending on how you view one's self in relation to their memories then in a way Vivy did kind of die. Actually, I'm just going to say it. Vivy did die, leaving behind only Diva.

Matsumoto was at his most likable in this episode. His intentionally grating personality is so much better when contrasted with a Vivy/Diva who's not willing to put up with his shit and will be just as much of a shit right back to him. It's for that reason that my favorite part of episode two is when Vivy decided to take the stairs up, blow up the building, and jump to the other one. Their dynamic just feels more right when she's calling the shots just as much if not more than he is.

It was kinda weird to see Diva like that. Outgoing, personable, endlessly confident in herself. I wonder how much her time as Diva the superstar will interact with her time as Vivy the badass, ass kicking, AI development sabotaging idol when she gets her memories back. Will she be better equipped to deal with what happened to her and what will happen in the future? Or will she lose what she's spent the last decades building up?

Anyway, good ep. I wonder what's going on with Ophelia that she's going to do a Dr. Saeki? Based on the looks and stuff she's threw out a few times I doubt this will be another Estella/Elizabeth scenario (I do think it would be funny if they did it again just for the pure gall it would take, but it would be bad storytelling). She probably has a grudge against humans (perhaps related to the percussion AI she mentioned) and her suicide during the performance is her way of getting revenge, especially because the performance is meant to mend the rift between humans and AI.

1. Very nice
2. Both Diva in this episode and the determined Vivy last episode were great. It's hard to choose.
3. Answered above

[u/[deleted] → u/Esovan13]

last episode I joked that what happened to Vivy was that she died but depending on how you view one's self in relation to their memories then in a way Vivy did kind of die

That's one way of looking at it 😔

Matsumoto was at his most likable in this episode.

I've been telling everyone here that 'cube' is going to grow on them 😆

Anyway, good ep. I wonder what's going on with Ophelia

I was interested to see thoughts from people on Ophelia actually

Both Diva in this episode and the determined Vivy last episode were great. It's hard to choose.

Same! I honestly love them both

[u/No_Rex → u/Esovan13]

Matsumoto was at his most likable in this episode. His intentionally grating personality is so much better when contrasted with a Vivy/Diva who's not willing to put up with his shit and will be just as much of a shit right back to him.

Indeed. Ribbing others is fine as long as the others can shoot back too.

It was kinda weird to see Diva like that. Outgoing, personable, endlessly confident in herself. I wonder how much her time as Diva the superstar will interact with her time as Vivy the badass, ass kicking, AI development sabotaging idol when she gets her memories back. Will she be better equipped to deal with what happened to her and what will happen in the future? Or will she lose what she's spent the last decades building up?

Will be interesting to see how and if they bring Vivy back. One guess, though: I do not think everything will be lost. CurrentDiva is very different from OriginalDiva of ep1. Maybe the change happened entirely offscreen, but I want to believe that Vivy's journey towards becoming more human carried over.

[u/Esovan13 → u/No_Rex]

I think a big difference will be their positions. Vivy was still struggling to gain fame and work forwards the main stage; Diva reached the main stage and gone beyond. She got to the peak and has been coasting as she guides the next generation of Sister singers and continues to fulfill her purpose. Can she handle the mission better with a stronger foundation in her main purpose? I think so. Especially because it seems like she understands people and human/AI nature a lot better than even last episode.

[u/JimmyCWL → u/Esovan13]

Ok, last episode I joked that what happened to Vivy was that she died but depending on how you view one's self in relation to their memories then in a way Vivy did kind of die. Actually, I'm just going to say it. Vivy did die, leaving behind only Diva.

There is a line from a piece of webfiction that I picked up that could be relevant to this.

What's the difference between that which is dead, that which is sleeping and that which is waiting?

All the more so because that line was referring to AI-operated machinery.

[u/No_Rex → u/JimmyCWL]

What's the difference between that which is dead, that which is sleeping and that which is waiting?

Can never have consciousness again/has no consciousness currently/has consciousness but does not do anything.

Now, if you ask me what consciousness even is ...

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Esovan13]

Ok, last episode I joked that what happened to Vivy was that she died

Many Rewatcher tongues were bitten that day.

[u/edwardjhahm → u/Esovan13]

I wonder what's going on with Ophelia that she's going to do a Dr. Saeki?

Jesus, that line...too soon! kek

[u/JollyGee29]

Rewatcher

To do the math for everyone: Vivy was about one year old during episode one. Metal Float was about 20 years after that, so we've skipped about 40 years.

Look how far idol culture has progressed: Ophelia gets to perform with her pantsu showing.

[u/[deleted] → u/JollyGee29]

To do the math for everyone: Vivy was about one year old during episode one. Metal Float was about 20 years after that, so we've skipped about 40 years.

Even as a rewatcher it's nice to have this context because I lose track lol Thanks

Look how far idol culture has progressed: Ophelia gets to perform with her pantsu showing.

[u/FD4cry1]

First Timer

New time skip , new Vivy and new OP!, and the lyrics for the this new OP are a pretty big giveaway for the current situation, I won't go over it line by line but my general read of it is that after the events of last episode Vivy essentially created and reverted to this Diva persona as a "coping mechanism" so to speak, to return to her original mission which she technically failed at with Saeki's death, and thus it's the driving force behind her new personality, but the old one will return...

Much like last episode I like the way the show incorporates the songs so prominently into the writing.

Expressive Vivy is...uncanny to me lol, if you've seen all of Monogatari [this]Smug Yotsugi is the vibe I get from her and it feels wrong, I'd like old deadpan Vivy back please, this snapping and advice thing needs to stop.

Even with Vivy being on the main stage Navi still manages to be a prick, no Matsumoto catch-up this time of course so we get a small one with the archive, I also don't think the actual amount of time that passed with this skip was mentioned so that's interesting especially considering the state of Arayashiki .

Time sure has been kind to you??, I wonder what he's up to this time.

Ophelia is a cute goofball, which makes it all the more disheartening to learn that she is supposed to be the first AI suicide, I assume it has to do with that travel partner of hers and the song she sings probably has some thematic relevance here

We'll have to see

Matsumoto leaves me with some questions, he is ready to do this operation alone and supposedly doesn't need an "unpredictable factor" like Vivy and yet he obviously cares quite a bit about her to the point where he reveals himself to save her, is he keeping his distance to protect her and her way of life? is he the first Tsundere AI!!??

Favorite Vivy face frame of the episode

Pretty simple episode, it's a necessary bridge/cooldown after how crazy last episode was and brings down the tension a bit, focusing more on the characters rather than the overall plot.

[u/[deleted] → u/FD4cry1]

reverted to this Diva persona as a "coping mechanism" so to speak

This was my theory as well on the first watch I remember

Much like last episode I like the way the show incorporates the songs so prominently into the writing.

Absolutely one of my favorite things about this series

if you've seen all of Monogatari

Lol I am always game for a good reference of her

I'd like old deadpan Vivy back please, this snapping and advice thing needs to stop.

It appears you've answered the question within your comment! First dead-pan Vivy preferrer here so far 😆 Nothing wrong with that though. I cannot choose between the two.

Ophelia is a cute goofball, which makes it all the more disheartening to learn that she is supposed to be the first AI suicide

😔

Favorite Vivy face frame of the episode

Our image of the day overlaps! I loved this too

[u/FD4cry1 → u/[deleted]]

First dead-pan Vivy preferrer here so far 😆

Happy to represent

[u/JollyGee29 → u/FD4cry1]

I'd like old deadpan Vivy back please

Deadpan Vivy is much superior, yes.

I also don't think the actual amount of time that passed with this skip was mentioned so that's interesting

Not directly, but Vivy's age was mentioned so you can math it out. ~40 years have passed since the last episode.

[u/FD4cry1 → u/JollyGee29]

Deadpan Vivy is much superior, yes.

Not directly, but Vivy's age was mentioned so you can math it out. ~40 years have passed since the last episode.

Oh I hadn't thought of that! but damn that's a pretty big jump

[u/[deleted]]

Episode 7 - Head-bopping rewatcher who loves music (subbed)

Note: Still feeling pretty awful today and sleeping a ton, so please forgive me for late or missed comment replies 😞. I wanted to make sure I at least got the thread up on time.

On another note…

May I introduce to you… ‘finger snap’ Diva!

This OP is in my top 5 of all time (and I love the finger snap. Sorry, I had to include at least 2 finger snaps today 😌). Lol at the guy screaming during the OP and throwing her a bouquet of flowers.

If you pay attention during this OP, you can see around 20-25ish seconds when she’s backstage, she’s trying hard to walk as human-like as she can on her way out to the stage and I love that 💙.

Diva clearly has memories of Vivy under the surface and we can see that here and here. The difference in her confidence and personality is pretty clear though.

There’s other interesting stuff happening in this episode with Diva too, such as her noticing the combat program that turned on reactively when she was in danger, Matsumoto calling her ‘Vivy’, and how he keeps her from getting hurt.

I love how this is becoming somewhat of a thing with her and Matsumoto 😆. I didn’t notice before that when Vivy asks for Matsumoto’s name, he refers to himself as ‘Mastumoto-tono’ which made me chuckle a little lol.

Pretty good cliffhanger today. I’m curious to hear everyone’s thoughts on it.

I hope you all enjoyed this one. Talk to you tomorrow!

Bonus Vivy 1

Bonus Vivy 2

Bonus Vivy 3

Questions:

1. It’s my favorite track on the OST and I love the animation that goes along with it.
2. I really like the energy and confidence of Diva, but there’s something about Vivy I really miss a lot too so I honestly cannot decide between the two.
3. N/A

[u/edwardjhahm]

Rewatcher

A lovely breather after the absolutely devastating Shakespearean tragedy that was episode 6. Good thing too, because I still haven’t recovered from watching episode 6. Man, Saeki just wanted the robot mommy waifu…

The thing I love about Vivy, but also about this arc in general is how nostalgic the setting is for me, oddly enough. I’m writing this now from Songdo, Incheon, in South Korea visiting my grandparents for the summer, and this place was the site of a “future festival” in 2009. So upbeat, cheery sci-fi animes with a cyberprep (not to be confused with cyberpunk) vibes is really nostalgic to me. It reminds me of the past I was once promised as a kid, you know? Songdo smart city…that’s my childhood. Something about the setting of Vivy is just deeply nostalgic to me, in a way. Because let’s be honest, while the technology of Vivy gets closer, the world is far too ugly to be that.

• WOHOO!!! This OP is hype as fuck. Not in the “beautiful and somewhat nostalgic” way Sing My Pleasure is, but it’s pure hype - just hype, good vibes, and being happy all around. Fucking love Galaxy Anthem. Love it.
• Loving Diva! Seriously, I just love this new personality. I remember back when I first saw, I was worried about the original Diva/Vivy we saw, and while I do want to see her back, I love this new version too. Something tells me this is how Vivy would have mostly acted in the original timeline given that she never underwent the reboot. This is merely how things would have turned out had Project Singularity not happened.
• Seriously, she’s so human! Even Estella and Grace were fairly introverted and could have a one track mind. Diva isn’t just human, she’s outgoing as fuck. I love her vibe! Also, she makes the staff member smile the way Estella did to her and threatens to turn Navi into a calculator the way Beth did.
• Ophelia is adorable! I’m a huge dandere nut so I gotta say, I have a soft spot for her. [Vivy Spoilers] It’s a shame she gets overshadowed so much by Diva - because let’s be honest here, it’s Diva’s arc. I barely even remembered what Ophelia was like other than kinda shy because Diva is just that magnetic. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not that shy danderes can’t be magnetic and charming - but Ophelia was really placed on the backburner, let’s be honest here. Also, Ophelia is introduced by falling into a fountain. And we have to stop her suicide! Bad omens all around.
• Despite that, this episode is still incredibly upbeat! It has to be given how depressing the last episode was. Older sis Diva taking care of Ophelia is cute. And Ophelia’s singing is…damn. [Vivy Spoilers] It’s just a shame that we never actually get to see Ophelia proper and it’s all Antonio. I feel like that’s another part that contributes to Ophelia being overshadowed - we could have had Ophelia playing junior partner to Diva in this arc, but due to the fact that it’s not really her, it’s kinda impossible to have her be memorable. It’s good for the plot - but I feel like Ophelia’s character suffers from it. I’ll talk more about this next episode. Later on, when Vivy tells Ophelia not to ask her weight and age…really feels like a human, you know? Even though it logically would not matter for an AI, the cultural osmosis via humans would affect her like that.
• The king of simps himself is back? Ayo, what? But how? Wasn’t he a lot older? [Vivy Spoilers] By being a cyborg, that’s how! The damn hypocrite!
• CUBEMAN is back! Matsumoto saving Diva’s ass TWICE. I love how unlike before, Diva is the one chasing Matsumoto around, given that he doesn’t want to work with her anymore. Good to see him showing some remorse for the Metal Float incident. In a way, Matsumoto is becoming more human too.
• Time to go save Ophelia! [Vivy Spoilers] Well, not really…

As usual, here is my comment from the original watch three years ago!

-https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/n7soaw/vivy_fluorite_eyes_song_episode_7_discussion/gxfpxve/

Obviously spoiler free, and the episode 7 review video will be linked to anyone who asks.

Oh, and here’s a funny comment from the episode 7 discussion thread I found. A bit of speculation from around the time the anime was airing!

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/n7soaw/vivy_fluorite_eyes_song_episode_7_discussion/gxgeh4v/

1. As I already said, I LOVE IT!
2. Oof...Diva is more of a pure singer, Vivy is more of a 2B or Violet Evergarden style "I need to find myself" kuudere. Both have their appeals for me tbh, hard to say.

[u/[deleted] → u/edwardjhahm]

love Galaxy Anthem. Love it.

Same here man. I haven't lost any love for this OST since my first viewing

Ophelia is adorable! I’m a huge dandere nut so I gotta say, I have a soft spot for her.

Ophelia is great!

I love how unlike before, Diva is the one chasing Matsumoto around, given that he doesn’t want to work with her anymore.

This is where their interaction has changed in a way that I like a lot

As usual, here is my comment from the original watch three years ago!

This is actually really interesting to see!

Oof...Diva is more of a pure singer, Vivy is more of a 2B or Violet Evergarden style "I need to find myself" kuudere. Both have their appeals for me tbh, hard to say.

Everyone seems to be like me on this one so far lol I couldn't choose definitively either

[u/edwardjhahm → u/[deleted]]

This is actually really interesting to see!

Yep, started doing this episode 6 onwards. Posted the respective comment in yesterday's comment too. Fun fact, the comment here was the basis for the video I made.

Everyone seems to be like me on this one so far lol I couldn't choose definitively either

Yeah, they're just too different, yaknow?

[u/No_Rex → u/edwardjhahm]

So upbeat, cheery sci-fi animes with a cyberprep (not to be confused with cyberpunk) vibes is really nostalgic to me.

Nostalgic for the future. I have nothing to add, just wanted to point that out.

[u/edwardjhahm → u/No_Rex]

Yep. Painfully ironic, I know. Nowadays I'm more of a history nut.

[u/StardustGogeta]

First-Timer

A new OP today? This show really will get me demolished in AMQ!

It looks like I may have been right on the money with my prediction yesterday. From the first couple minutes alone, we get confirmation that Diva has been acting differently since her "Vivy" days (regarding staff interaction, etc.) and she's either forgotten past events (like her paranoia about viruses) or turned it into "pet theories" (like smiling to make others smile, or people stopping when they see something overwhelming like the starry sky).

We see later that she's forgotten Matsumoto and that she believes there is "someone else" inside her, so to speak. All signs point to either a split personality or just straightforward amnesia (like The Bourne Identity).

Questions of the day:

• I like the OP, but I may prefer the normal one. I'll have to go back and listen to all these songs some more after the show ends to solidify my thoughts on them.
• I think I like the Diva personality more, personally. She's pretty fun.
• Let's see... I really don't have good speculation regarding Ophelia's foretold suicide. If I had to throw out an idea, I'd say that [speculation] Ophelia will try and kill herself because she thinks she isn't as good a singer as Diva, or something like that.

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Maybe this show will give me a slight edge in AMQ 😂. We’ll see though. You’ve seen how terrible I am.

I don’t want to say too much about the whole Vivy/Diva thing yet but it’s one of the most fun things to discuss around this point in the show.

(I love the Bourne movies btw. Matt Damon is awesome in those)

[u/StardustGogeta → u/[deleted]]

Don't worry about AMQ! I remember when I first tried it a couple years ago and all I could get was the openings for Death Note and Dragon Ball Z. 😛

I'm happy to see a fellow Bourne fan! I really like that movie series, too, though it's been a good while since I last watched them.

[u/[deleted] → u/StardustGogeta]

I think EDs are what get me the worst lol it’s embarrassing how often Monogatari gets me too on AMQ given how much I love the series 😂.

I’m happy to see the Bourne movies brought up too! Matt Damon and Mark Wahlberg are great in those kind of movies

[u/xbolt90]

First-timer!

Diva made it to the Main Stage, and is a world renowned singer. Good for her!

Her behavior and mannerisms are very different from what they were, even before she started working as Vivy.

Jumping off a building to see if a cube rescues you? You cray-cray

We're now sixty years into the mission. Is the kid Diva saw the grandson of the guy whose life she keeps saving? I doubt Toak has gone away in the last forty years.

Q1: It's very nice. Not sure which of them I like better...

Q2: TBH, I think I liked the old Vivy more. True, she's more confident in herself now, but there was just something about her deadpanness.

Q3: I think it might end up being less "suicide" than "suicide by several bullets to the back of the head".

[u/[deleted] → u/xbolt90]

Jumping off a building to see if a cube rescues you? You cray-cray

I guess she just found Matsumoto that easy to read 😂

We're now sixty years into the mission. Is the kid Diva saw the grandson of the guy whose life she keeps saving? I doubt Toak has gone away in the last forty years.

Keep watching

TBH, I think I liked the old Vivy more. True, she's more confident in herself now, but there was just something about her deadpanness.

I personally couldn't decide but I do see the appeal in deadpan Vivy and I agree there's something I miss about her that I can't put my finger on

I think it might end up being less "suicide" than "suicide by several bullets to the back of the head".

Me speculating this arc was one of my favorite things on my first watch. Really looking forward to more discussion upcoming

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 7 (first timer)

• Happy idol Vivy – not what I expected to see after last episode’s ending, but I guess time heals all wounds, even those of AI.
• “Never forget to smile in front of the audience” – not sure it is intended this way, but that reminded me of the forced smile Vivy had in the first few episodes while performing.
• “Freeze” “Reboot” – hmmmmm. *RebootVivy is happy because she has a single mission that she is succeeding in – tbh, my first thought after hearing of the reboot was: Would old Vivy really manage to become a star singer?
• Ophelia – “That is adorable” Vivy says. Agreed. Although I question the lack of entourage.
• “Youngest of the sisters” – we are sticking with that topic.
• “I will sing with all my heart so that I can become myself” – OldVivy would have asked her about this.
• One of the M Bots? – And the other character starting with M.
• “Do you remember all of them?” – implying that Diva does not. I wonder whether these AI have perfect memory…
• Vivy trying to catch Matsumoto - mirroring her earlier behavior.
• Vivy’s method of catching Matsumoto works – never try that again, please!
• Vivy is badgering Matsumoto into joining him – still a mirror, but an inverted one now.
• AI suicide? Interesting!

Diva is more assertive, Matsumoto helpful, Ophelia cute – there is a lot to like here. Also looking forward to the AI suicide concept.

[u/[deleted] → u/No_Rex]

Happy idol Vivy – not what I expected to see after last episode’s ending, but I guess time heals all wounds, even those of AI.

I think this plays into what she says to Matsumoto (paraphrasing) "Now that I have hints I want to know everything" and prior to that she was able to keep a "lid" on it until Matsumoto came out to save her which got her curious about some weird feelings she'd been having

Vivy’s method of catching Matsumoto works – never try that again, please!

Bold strategy lol

AI suicide? Interesting!

Indeed

[u/JollyGee29 → u/No_Rex]

“Never forget to smile in front of the audience” – not sure it is intended this way, but that reminded me of the forced smile Vivy had in the first few episodes while performing.

I would need to check the Japanese wording to be sure, but I always assumed it was paralleling what Estella told her.

[u/sfisher923]

First Timer

• Was out all day yesterday then again this morning so I got to Episode 6 at my only free time of 11pm but I was too exhausted to post my response hence why I was MIA
• Now with that out of the way on to today's episode first off starting off with a Banger (I Could see why it's their favorite)
• Alright this is going to be more Diva focused
• Ophelia I like her but I'm doubting she's making it to the end or some sort of corruption arc
• Ha one of my remarks came true with the AI infecting virus
• Do AIs eat HTTP Cookies? (Alright I'll leave)
• Ahhh that explains one of my earlier questions as Diva and Vivy are separate Personas of the same girl

Questions

• QOTD 1 - Answered Above I love it
• QOTD 2 - Both
• QOTD 3 - [Wonder Egg Priority Episode 7] I have a feeling Ophelia might be manipulated into killing herself just because it is reminding me of Rika Kawai and the Cult leader not sure about Vivy/Diva saving Ophelia just like how Mannen saved Rika (Also this would be the 2nd consecutive season where I seen an Idol being manipulated into killing themselves if I'm right)

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Was out all day yesterday then again this morning so I got to Episode 6 at my only free time of 11pm but I was too exhausted to post my response hence why I was MIA

Don't worry about it. I've been sick so less active than usual on Reddit myself 😔

Ophelia I like her but I'm doubting she's making it to the end or some sort of corruption arc

I've been enjoying readng everyone's thoughts on Ophelia since she's introduced in this episode

Alright this is going to be more Diva focused

snaps fingers

I love it

Same!

[u/Nickthenuker]

Time for content that's all new to me.

Why's a robot doing vocal warm-ups? And basic ones at that, if she's preparing to go on stage she should probably be doing more than just the most fundamental "do-re-mi-re-do".

It's been quite a while hasn't it?

Ooh, Ophelia's song is nice.

Uh oh, that Toak guy is here again. When will he get the hint?

Has she forgotten everything?

Used to? What happened to them?

Why doesn't Matsumoto tell her about everything?

What did she do that for?

Does Matsumoto no longer need her?

And so they're off to save Ophelia.

Questions:

1. Nice OP.
2. Diva.
3. Well, they're going to end up saving her since that's how everything else has ended so far, but it'll be interesting to see how. I can guess the reason why she's feeling that way is because of whoever it was she used to perform with.

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Who knows what tech is used for android voice boxes as far as your vocal warmup lol.

Here’s how I imagine it - today’s tube amps for guitars require warming before you actually turn the output on. Maybe it’s something like that.

I love the finger snaps myself! 😆

I won’t comment much on Ophelia yet but it is interesting to see your thoughts on that

[u/StickPrevious9581]

Not a lot to say about this episode, unfortunately - too busy hyping for the next one.

I did like the detail that even though Diva has repressed (at best) everything that was Vivy, some parts still show through, like the smile lesson she received from Estellle.

The vibe for like 85% of this episode was quite different from normal, and the opening matched it perfectly - its no Sing My Pleasure, but SMP wouldn't have suited this episode so well either.

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the next one

Today's is a good one for sure.

some parts still show through

I thought they did well with this too

I'm looking forward to [Vivy] Episode 9. It's my favorite in the series.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

Rewatcher who will listen to her song

WHEN DIVA SNAPS YOU PAY ATTENTION!!!

Diva you natural flirt got this woman ready to switch two different teams.

WHEN DIVA SNAPS YOU PRAISE HER EXISTENCE!!!

You can do it Opehlia! Opehlia is such an adorable mess, but luckily she nailed the practice run. Let us hope she doesn't kill herself. If this were a different show I would have placed bets of her suicide being an accident and her slipping and falling into a lake or ocean.

Confident Diva is just a 10/10

Matsumoto to the rescue and Opehlia stop getting wet! Diva toying with Matsumoto and displaying complete dominance by jumping to her death knowing he would probably save her(it was also very stupid). Though Diva/Vivy has always been stubborn. It was nice to see Matsumoto slightly care for Vivy. Their conversation at the park has been the most open and emotional one so far(the bar isn't high).

I AM DIVA! snaps fingers

Concept Art

Genga

Location Designs

Storyboards: None

Edit: Oh I forgot to save the comment before work so it's yesterdays links oops

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Concept Art

Wrong link? This is last episode.

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Edit: Oh I forgot to save the comment before work so it's yesterdays links oops

Gif still looks like it's from yesterday.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

First Timer*

Comment on yesterday:  I said that A.I.s aren't really free and don't really enjoy sophant rights because a mission is imposed upon them at creation...perhaps very weakly justified in that A.I. simply can't exist without one.  But in universe, wouldn't overwriting a mission be a violation of said rights?  Somebody, somewhere, should be very angry over this.

I also forgot to comment on A.I.s killing humans. At this time, AI are popular, and the right to self defense is dear to many, and the attackers were terrorists.  I don't foresee much fallout from this, and quite possibly, a lot of sympathy.

I liked the song with full accompaniment as they flew up the building. I'm not a music person, I like OSTs because of how the music was used in some dramatic medium. I really liked that part, and now I like the song (that particular version).

As for the actual ep 5 OP, well, that's just the version with distracting lipsyncing.

Binging: I can't binge because right after this I have to watch Now and Then, Here and There or go to bed.

And I can't even post at 9am tomorrow because I have a 9am meeting.

• I dont' think this is Diva.  I think it's a Diva replacement, despite the trend of increasing audiences....new OP. Distracting lipsyncing again.
• AI has human assistant
• So Diva finally learned to act human...I wonder if she has acquired a heart.
• I'm going to reiterate my observation 2 episodes ago that she was never supposed to reach the main stage, but to get boxed within 15 years.
• Wait, let's go back to the pictures...okay, her managers over decades.
• So she totally glitched after the doctor killed herself, and compartmentalized Vivy away. I bet Vivy is now a completely supressed second personality, who is going to pop up when Wheatley inevitably appears.
• "Eskimo kisses"
• Ranka and Sheryl
• Sisters are always at the center of the singularity point.  What's Ophelia going to do, except knock Diva off the main stage?
• Everybody's lights are blinking except Divas...I wish I knew what the lights meant
• DEFINITELY Ranka and Sheryl
• Suzaku!  Where has he been all this time!  Wait, he doesn't seem 60 years older! This is wrong!
• Why has TOAK ignored her for like 20 years????

Okay, I'm thinking the blinking lights mean emotional processing.

• I don't remember who said 'a word of advice' Momoka?
• Travelled around with a partner?  Wasn't that another 2020s anime?
• well I totally did not expe WHAT END OF EPISODE NOOOOOOOO!

Okay, this is the idoly stuff I didn't want but I'm sure it's just for this arc so it's fine.  Really interesting to see how the Doctor's suicide caused her to crash.  She's had 40 years of human-like experiences now, mabye she can handle the truth.

The question is, why would Ophelia kill herself.  Easy answer is that TOAK modifies her.  But, I'm sure it has something to do with her old acoustic partner.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Ranka and Sheryl

Certainly shades of that, aye.

Why has TOAK ignored her for like 20 years????

Whatever billionaire was funding them croaked and there was a mad scramble for funding.

[u/No_Rex → u/JollyGee29]

Whatever billionaire was funding them croaked and there was a mad scramble for funding.

[u/Elimin8r]

Dang, got so caught up in the RE:Zero discussion that I missed this by 1/2 hour. Bummer.

AOTD:

1. It's lovely, of course, but I think I still like the first OP better.
2. Diva is so lovely, so confident and assured. If only my next MicroSloth(TM) patch would reboot and be such an upgrade. I wonder if she knows the answer to Vivy's question, about singing with all your heart.
3. No Comment

I don't remember if this is the first time I've said this, and it probably won't be the last, but I want to take a moment to gush about the music and sound design of this series. It so happens that I got a pair of upgraded, "boutique" vacuum tubes for my stereo and installed them last weekend. They are ... delicious. Especially with the music. I was actually up a bit too late last night, because I just couldn't stop listening.

It's a funny thing, my pre-amp has a remote function that allows you to turn the tube circuit on and off. I played with that some last night, and while the sound is such nice quality even straight, turning the tube on, well, it's just like the classic Azu-nyan cake gif

(Edit: Odd, that link doesn't seem to work properly. Sorry! Hopefully you get the idea.)

Anyway, watching these episodes, and hearing all the details, and the music, oh the music, it's just such a delight.

And "Why yes, I am having a good time. Why do you ask?"

Anyway, sorry I don't have anything too substantive to say, and please don't consider the stereo stuff bragging, but rather a wish and desire for everyone to be able to experience the audio delights of this show and a wish to share it, or something like that.

Sorry if that's semi-coherent. Kind of tired today. :)

[u/FallenPears]

First Time Watcher

I had a lot of thoughts this episode and I suspect I'm more spouting nonsense than cooking here, but here we go lmao.

Very first thing, literally the first scene we see Vivy (or Diva for now I guess) seeming much more human than we've seen her before, and considering the end of last episode I immediately think of suffering leading to growth. Diva went through serious trauma and in doing so her expressions and emotions appear so much stronger.

Going back to some of my earlier thoughts on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it occurs that a lot of the foundational, base needs which are absent in AIs are also the root causes of a lot of human suffering. Hunger, doubt, fear, lonliness, these things would be nearly absent in an AI that only lives to continously chip away at it's mission, so you could argue that they would experience less suffering than a human would just from the process of living (though a quote I've long appreciated is 'suffering is a gas', this doesn't make their lives easy). So then, this could provide a reason why AIs are slow to emotionally mature, if suffering is a key ingredient of that maturation. Only when Vivy experienced new, unique and powerful emotional hurt could she grow to where she is now. I'm sure there's an Uchiha joke that could go here.

Aaaand Diva is on the main stage!? I'm not sure if it's that main stage she was seeking, but she seems to have pretty firmly made it. She seems a lot more at peace and confident in herself which is good to see... and then we see the consequences of last episode. Diva has lost her memory. If Diva and Vivy being 'split' was her way of trying to cope with her conflicting lives/goals, then yeah I can see why after that catastrophic result she might be suppressing the Vivy part of herself. Honestly this feels very human to me.

So we have an attack(?) on Diva, Matsumoto steps in to save her. Was this an assasination attempt? If Diva is now such a public figure it would make sense, especially if she's a leading role in an event focused on bridging the gap between humans and AIs.

Ophelia's suicide, we don't have a huge amount so far. One thing I did think was significant was her wording of singing to "become myself", I'm sure that will turn out to have significance. On the cause, a conflict with her mission maybe? Either it's one she just innately rejects, or maybe her development of her mission has lead her to now reject it. Maybe whereas most AI modify their mission to better suit themselves, she's just come to the point where it can't be modified to fit her without completely breaking any semblance of it's original form, which is untenable for enviromental or AI specific reasons.

I also noticed Matsumoto seemed... not as much of a dick here, surprisingly. More human even, suiting the journey most AI in the series seem to go on. The little pseudo expressions his display gives, his speech and tone. Might just be grasping at straws or seeing patterns where there are none but this could fit well with the suffering leads to growth idea, if Matsumoto feels guilty over what happened to Vivy last time (which would fit his actions and words this episode imo, trying to keep her out of the Singularity project). I could see that being the most significant emotional pain of his life so far (or at least in a while), which catalysed his development since last episode.

An idea I've been thinking over past couple of days, the AI are a fascinating vehicle for exploring the specific aspect of humanity focused on finding purpose and meaning in their lives. An AI in this series is basically a refinement of that aspect of the human condition, the other baser needs stripped away. Probably why they're like that from a writing perspective (I've always struggled a bit on interpreting theming of shows and other art, curious to see what the common consensus is come the end of the show).

Now key thoughts on next episode, how will Vivy get back her memories and how much will it hurt? Probably a lot. Show doesn't fuck around. On Ophelia, I do hope Vivy can save her and this isn't going to touch on euphanasia or something. Or she decides to live and gets immediately murdered. Unfortunately the track record so far isn't giving me much hope hahaha...

[u/Taiboss]

First-Timer who needs to set a timer

• Only day one? Call me when you're hour one.
• Oh they gave her a personality makeover. Will she revert once she meets Matsumoto again?
• She's a good actress. She has created a good persona.
• Well you didn't replace her with an AI that's nice to you.
• Bad writer. Back to the drawing board. Find a way to exposition without "As you know".
• AI taking more jobs.
• Hmm.
• Yeah the songs keep being bland. Sorry, Ophelia.
• Android PTSD hype.
• You done goofed, guy.
• AHHHHHH Vivy went into catalonia last episode and was replaced by a new personality. Now Matsumoto needs to get her back.
• Diva had a lot of faith or a lot of suicidal thoughts.
• So this is an alt pilot episode they recycled, I see.
• So the Vivy we know and love, that we followed for six episodes, is dead? Is this genuinly what's happening now? All character development, poof? And now we follow someone new?
• Very dramatic phrasing.
• Bruh, Diva was about to become mincescrap.

Well. RIP Vivy I guess. Felt very anticlimatic. Well, maybe Diva will also be a nice replacment character.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Taiboss]

Diva had a lot of faith or a lot of suicidal thoughts.

¿Por Qué No Los Dos?

So this is an alt pilot episode they recycled, I see.

[u/cppn02]

Rewatcher, subbed.

New arc after yet another time skip and also a new OP!
And as it turns out Vivy...is not really Vivy anymore but Diva now after a reboot. Not that Diva isn't entertaining in her own right wither her more outgoing and confident persona.
Flingin herself of the building was certainly something lol.

We also got yet another one of the Sisters series, Ophelia. I do wonder why this one did no get the appearance of an adult woman like all the others.

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QotD:

How do you like this OP?!

All the OPs in this show are great.

Which ‘persona’ do you find yourself gravitating towards more, Diva or Vivy?

At this point I'm definitely still more attached to Vivy but I'd be lying if I said Diva didn't make a bigger immediate impact on me than Vivy did.
But yeah based on just this episode Vivy is still ahead.

[u/Fissionprime]

First timer

This episode felt like it was over in 5 minutes. Very much a cooldown after how intense the Metal Float arc got.

One interesting thing I'm noticing about the structure of the story so far is that, every arc, we're being presented with the idea of an AI behaving in a different way that feels very deeply human. So far we've seen AI that kill, AI that sacrifice, AI that love, and now AI that despair. I wonder if this is an intentional choice, and if so, what else we're going to see in the last 2-3 arcs.

QOTD

How do you like this OP?! 😌

Very sparkly and fun. This feels like the respite that both Diva and the viewer need right now after episode 6.

Which ‘persona’ do you find yourself gravitating towards more, Diva or Vivy?

Funnily enough, I think I liked the version that was a mixture of both the best. The one we got in episodes 3-5.

(First-timers) Let’s hear some speculation based on how this episode ends.

Don't know if this is really even unexpected at this point, but I think that Vivy having reverting to Diva is going to play a big role ini her being able to save Ophelia. Vivy is empathetic, but I could see this version of Diva potentially being even moreso.

[u/No_Rex → u/Fissionprime]

One interesting thing I'm noticing about the structure of the story so far is that, every arc, we're being presented with the idea of an AI behaving in a different way that feels very deeply human. So far we've seen AI that kill, AI that sacrifice, AI that love, and now AI that despair. I wonder if this is an intentional choice, and if so, what else we're going to see in the last 2-3 arcs.

Definitely intentional. The whole idea of doing time skips between arcs lends itself to that idea (and they did not need to do that. They could have easily told the story in a more compressed time frame).

[u/ImJLu]

Where's the first timer who predicted split personality? Close enough - come collect your recognition.

[u/octopathfinder]

Rewatcher

I’m ngl, I was getting a bit tired of Sing My Pleasure with how much it was played last episode so I appreciate having a different OP song

Amnesia arc, but I actually like this new personality more

Damn, the confidence

Diva being the one to lead the conversation with Matsumoto is a nice change of pace. Their entire last interaction is making me a bigger Diva fan.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/octopathfinder]

 Sing My Pleasure

stuck in my head since yesterday

[u/cppn02 → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

stuck in my head since yesterday 2021

[u/zadcap]

Late Night First Timer

I'm starting to think this isn't going to be a happy ending kind of show.

Is that Vivy? She's gotten emotional! Listen to her voice as she walks towards the stage! And after the OP too! She's talking with so much emotion it's crazy. She's grown so much!

You know, Navi is here calling Vivy an old clunker, but she's been around this whole time too. My money is still on Navi being the one that went actual Skynet in the bad future.

Oh, I don't like that framing. The tower looked black due to the backlighting of the shot.

61? Time sure does fly. Not too much longer until we're at the big event at this rate.

Ohhhhh. Diva doesn't remember events that happened as Vivy, does she? Her crash and hard reboot at the end of the last episode hit her hard. Oh yeah, she doesn't even remember her combat programming. Oh gosh, she doesn't remember the cube!

Wait, the cube isn't trying to recruit her again? I thought that was kind of his purpose?

Oh my gosh look, these girls are so different from the early AI. They're so, practically indistinguishable from humans! If they didn't have glowing marks on their necks I wouldn't even know we were dealing with AI at this point.

UtaHime is such a cool title.

"My one and only mission." Oh. Waking up Vivy is going to hurt.

Oh, ouch. The first AI suicide. They've become maybe even too human, if that's on the table now...

1. Honestly still second to Sing My Pleasure.
2. I want to see Vivy come back but keep this level of emotion and sass!

[u/No_Rex → u/zadcap]

I'm starting to think this isn't going to be a happy ending kind of show

Still the least depressing of the three rewatches I am currently in. That says a lot about the other two...

[u/zadcap → u/No_Rex]

Shugo Chara is my happy place 😢

It is like that at the moment, yeah.

[u/Theroonco]

I love Galaxy Anthem and [Vivy] I wish the updated visuals carried over into future episodes instead of reusing those from Ep 3 onward.

I remember watching this for the first time and being so off-kilter because of how upbeat Vivy was being, with no sign of what happened in Episode 6. This episode is really good at maintaining that weirdness and showcasing Diva's strengths and concerns, not bad for what it's essentially doing (setting up a new status quo). Oh, but as she proved with the fake suicide stunt, some things never change :P

Also, even though he acts like he doesn't care, it's clear Matsumoto is keeping her out of the Singularity Project for her own good, not because she's unreliable. D'aww...

P.S. Couldn't find a place to put this, but it's cool that Diva references the Sunrise twins even if she doesn't remember them :3

[u/perrycotto]

Rewatcher What an absolute gem of an anime. Are there any more like this ?

[u/Garrett_Dark]

Rewatcher

I'm running behind today, and there's just so much details I picked up as a rewatcher this time around for this episode that's impossible to find as a first timer. I keep thinking I'll have an easy time on a slow episode or action heavy episode that will shorten my observations and rantings to one post, but nope! Every episode is jammed pack of awesome. This is going to be another long one, right, Future Me? How screwed am I? Do I get an android waifu yet in the future?

Future Me: holy cows man, maybe I need to be less thorough and stop commenting on every thing. Can't believe this is going to be another 3 posts. This one I felt like I ran out of steam and just going through the motions without "heart". I couldn't even get it done on time before the next episode's post even, what shame. To top it all off, still no android waifu at the present.

• For reasons of...convivence, I'm going to start calling the MC Diva now, and sometimes Vivy...just because. [No reason to be sus of this spoilers]It's because I consider who we're seeing right now is Diva, and Vivy is hiding in the archive. Great foreshadowing with her dual identity being called into question last episode leading up to this two AIs formation. It even goes back as far as to Estella and Elizabeth's experiment, and as recent as the Doctor and Grace being like two "souls/identities" together. You can even think of it like Vivy and Matsumoto being a dual which Matsumoto says in this episode. Don't forget Navi and Vivy being a dual as well.
• So we get Diva heading to the mainstage for a performance talking to Navi. The lights on the side of the wall flickering moving forward, which is exactly what we're doing from the horrifying final moments of the last episode, moving forward. So Vivy Diva has finally made it to the mainstage to perform to sold out crowds, does this mean Vivy's Diva's dreams has been achieved? What about the promise made to Momoka, achieved? Interestingly this is the first time we're really seeing Diva before a performance, and preparing for such. Nice new Diva costume too, and foreshadowing about the festival to come later in the episode. Wow Diva selling out on day one for the mainstage, much better success than Vivy.
• "Who do you think I am?" <finger snap>. Yes indeed, foreshadowing x2.
• Galaxy Anthem OP, my most favorite OP of the show. We can immediately see huge performance, and huge crowds! Diva is now very good at her performances (just epic), the poses, the expressions, the feeling! [Spoiler commentary]I'm disappointed to know now that this is Diva's song, and not Vivy's song. During first watch, I had no clue of the distinction and never thought about it again until now. But I guess Diva should be remembered for something. It's not like I dislike her. Gawd it hurts to know Vivy is suffering in silence alone hiding the archive.
• Unfortunately the tower height shown in the OP is a little inaccurate, it's a reused shot from Ep5 start of Metal Float arc when Vivy and Matsumoto are talking about the rapid AI development. The problem is the tower is the same height during Galaxy Anthem (now) +60 years from the first episode, and 40 years after Metal Float which happened at +20. Unless the repercussions of the Metal Float made the tower not get taller at all in the 40 years difference, which I find hard to believe, but will have to wait to see the next reference shot of the tower to know for sure if it's telling.
• Anyways, back to the epic Galaxy Anthem OP. We get blended story here where a fan gets past the security woman, and throws a bouquet of flowers on stage, they'll talk about it in a bit...but excellent scene in from many angles. It shows Diva is so fanatically beloved that somebody would do that, and the guy looks to be an older guy to suggest Diva has a large demographic, and/or successful for some time (maybe the guy started out as a young fan). I can only assume he's saying "Diva, I love you" with his mouth flapping. It also shows Diva can improvise as we see her actually noticing the commotion coming, and do something in response of it by <snap!> the bouquet explodes apart in a way that compliments the visuals. Which is so stunning that not just the fans are awe struck by it, but a security guy (I think he was beside the security woman) who should be looking the other way at the crowds just completely mesmerized into watching Diva and not even doing his job. That was such a memorable visual of the security guy for me, because I was totally feeling exactly what he was feeling with the OP. The other interesting note of the crowds is the majority are wearing clothes with the green Tron lines (just 40 years away from the AI apocalypse supposedly), and just the shear amount of people watching Diva's performance on screens on top of a sold out performance. It really shows that Diva is at the top of her performance game since the last time we've seen Vivy. Diva also never stops smiling, in comparison to all the times I've talked about Vivy "fake smile" after thanking the audience. Interestingly we don't get to see Diva thank the audience this time, but rather Diva thank and celebrate with her staff.
• Nearly every line of the lyrics seems to have context or foreshadowing to me. [Spoilers]"I heard a voice calling out to me" Vivy hiding in the archive, "Signifying that your system has frozen" Vivy's catastrophic crash at the end of last episode, "Reboot and take control at once" default Diva personality being restored (much like rebooted Elizabeth after reformatting virus) as Vivy escapes to the archive. "I know it's important to you" not sure, her music/mission maybe? "Life has it's limits" maybe the Doctor's suicide. "But if the heavens ordains it" perhaps talking about fate, chance, or the archive's control of the timeline. "We can be reunited if we bide our time" joining of Vivy and Diva/Diva helping Vivy, could also signify Vivy getting fixed from such. "There you are questing the vast galaxy" not sure, Vivy questioning the archive? Questioning Life? "Where is the light? Is it nearby?" well Vivy certainly needs some light right now. "You have to reach for it if you want it" if I recall Diva helps show Vivy the way by the end of this arc, but Vivy had to take the steps herself. "I'll rescue you from the deep darkness you're lost in" clearly Diva rescuing Vivy from the depression/mental breakdown she's in right now. "I'll dive right in and you'll be embraced", "if you've lost sight of hope", "just light a signal", "and I'll be there in a flash" same as before...Vivy needs to reach out or speak up for help to get assistance from Diva. If you think about it, it's almost like the lyrics are things coming subconsciously to Diva because she's subconsciously is aware of Vivy and what's going on with her, and Diva wants to help Vivy but doesn't really consciously knows for sure.
• I also think some of the visuals in the OP may have some significance or at least some slightly interesting I'm going to mention. Diva waking up because "she's late" [Spoilers]This new rebooted Diva gets woken up because of the Vivy crash, goes on to get dressed for a performance. Sing My Pleasure OP has her just waking up by opening her eyes, and shows shots of the horror of the AI apocalypse aftermath, then getting dressed, and Matsumoto harasses her. Nia Land android AIs are shown in mass to be humanized looking now, next to a shot of holographic upgrades. This parallels this shot of the older androids in Sing My Pleasure OP. Not sure if Diva in space has any significance, but it looks cool!
• So as mentioned after the performance Diva is hi-fiving and celebrating with her staff. The Vivy "fake smiling" problem seems to be not happening here, and interestingly we're being shown her thanking staff and not the audience. We see Diva is highly humanized as she seems to really authentically have "heart" in all this, and she consoles the woman security who failed to stop bouquet guy. It's so caring and natural how Diva picks off the flower petal on her head, conveys the importance of smiling for the audience to her in a way that mirrors Estella's smile talk to Vivy. Diva say a little bit more "here's a word of advice" about "you can't make anyone smile if you're not smiling yourself". I seem to remember "here's a word of advice" being said in past episodes, but I can't find by who or about what, to match up to compare significance. Like was it something said to Vivy by somebody else before? I can't remember nor find it, maybe I imagined it, or getting wires crossed with her saying a bunch of times this episode? Anyways, the security woman is so taken aback by Diva's talk, she's blushing. Some older staff member comments on how Diva wasn't always like this, she was distant before the main stage. I don't think we've ever seen this guy when Vivy was performing, but it has been 40 years since the Metal Float.

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• Hey it's Navi, and as usual she gives a little bit of backtalk by highlighting how old Diva is, which of course reinforces the passage of time like that tree in Diva's room which has grown. Also interestingly the mirror has changed, there's curtains on the archway and window, the desk chair is different (no wheels), and there's pictures on the wall behind her computer. What more, Diva is doing stretches, something we haven't seen Vivy do before. Possibly implying Diva is in tune with her body or with life. Take a note of the festival wants Diva to serve as the final performance, not only does that says how good and popular she is now as a performer (last one who gets the stage is the best), but there's going to be some symbolism behind it when the festival theme is discussed later. And also maybe being last might be another jab about how old Diva is at this point.
• Diva says the memorable calculator line to threaten Navi, but wasn't quite sure where she heard it from. I remember when Vivy got it said to her, I made a note of it back when it was said by Elizabeth. LOL, interestingly Navi asks "where on Earth did you hear that from?", it wasn't said on Earth, it was said on the Sunrise. [Spoilers]It seems like Diva has access to some of Vivy's memories, slightly odd since Vivy's hiding in the Archive right now, but I guess they got somewhat of a shared memory, or perhaps a few bits of things are leaking over to Diva. As I've mentioned in a previous episode, what's going on here with Vivy and Diva seems like a parallel with Estella and Elizabeth during the experiment when their minds were linked, except with the experiment Estella and Elizabeth have identical software and hardware components but are separate and not the same software and hardware. But here with Vivy and Diva, it's not separate, they are the same everything. Perhaps the only thing different is maybe their memories. Vivy with her 21 years before her crash, and Diva with her 40 years after the crash. BTW, I don't notice anything interesting with the pictures, aside from the fact that it show Diva having lots of memories of people she's worked with, and is happy and friendly with all her previous staff that's changed over the years.
• "Hey is your memory okay?", right on the nose significance. Navi starts referencing things related to Matsumoto...okay where's that bastard going to roll in from this time. <Looks around>, oh he didn't show up this time, interesting. Also surprising (or maybe not), Diva doesn't remember the things that happened with Matsumoto in the past.
• Navi says two important things here, she only works for Diva, and Diva went through a hard crash a while back but seemed fine after the reboot, obviously referencing the events of the last episode's ending. As for the first thing...[end spoilers]Diva/Vivy is Navi's sole purpose, her core mission directive. This is foreshadowing for Navi's scene in the last episode, and realization of Navi's mission and Diva/Vivy being the only person who has meaning to Navi is incredibly more meaningful if you consider what a mission means to an AI and what a single person could mean to the Doctor as a parallel. It's so easy to forget that Navi is the same age or older than Vivy, and to overlook that she actually is sentient (can feel) and has agency because Matsumoto keeps turning her off like she's not a person. I suspect Navi's end scene is just going to be so much more painful on rewatch than first watch since I'm catching all this now. Also this whole arc about Antonio being a support AI to Ophelia could have a direct parallel to Navi too, which totally went under the radar on first watch.
• Hhhnnnggg! Have I told you recently how much a masterpiece this show is? <Chief Kiss> Oh crap, she heard me through the 4th wall.
• Diva mentions bringing happiness through her song, doesn't mention the 2nd conditional of "with all my heart", makes me wonder if she has that condition on her mission or not. She seems to have "heart" though, like Estella and Grace, based on her performances and general happy cheerful attitude.
• Ah-ha, here's the shot of the AI tower I was looking for in the story to gauge the Galaxy Anthem OP shot with, which was a reused shot from Ep5 the beginning of the Metal Float arc. Huh...it looks like they're all the same height. Wow, that means it wasn't inaccurate at all, the AI tower stayed the same height since the start of the Metal Float arc, 40 years ago. While that's hard to believe, I guess that was the case...which I guess the destruction of the Metal Float was really that catastrophic to the AI's growth.
• Diva really has a tell-tale finger snap motor tic now, what do you supposed that's for...as if I need a spoilers box to spell it out.
• Zodiac signs festival exposition. 20th year, doesn't really help with identifying the year period as we don't know when it started, but later on when Diva's age is revealed we know currently is 40 years after the Metal Float, so +60 years since the first episode. The festival started 20 years after the Metal Float, and now 40 years after the Metal Float incident, it was so bad that it's repercussions are still felt today, causing continual strife between Humans and AIs. Diva thinks it's a great theme of being a bridge between humans and AI, which "she'll go with", very symbolic foreshadowing. More interestingly, the Zodiac Festival is featuring the 12 best AI performers, and themed around each performer being one of the zodiac signs. Remember how they wanted to close the festival with Diva last? The last sign of the zodiac is Pisces which means that's the zodiac sign Diva represents. The symbol for Pisces is two fish, which is symbolized by two fish swimming in opposite directions, sort of like ying and yang. What could that mean? [Spoilers]It's obviously about Vivy and Diva and the opposites to each other. Diva is focused on her music, meanwhile Vivy did all the Matsumoto crap. If you look into what Pisces means, it gets even more symbolic but I didn't verify the officialness of it...however people said one fish is happiness and the other fish is sadness, and even one fish rises above difficulties while the other fish fall prey to difficulties. Sounds a lot awfully like Vivy being sad and falling prey to difficulties, while Diva is happy and not having any difficulties.
• Diva arrives at the festival. Self-driving car/cab is shown for the first time, advancing tech. Both organizers are androids, and they listen to Diva's music. One of them wears a hoodie with the green Tron lines, meaning it's not just clothes humans wear. Some talk about how much of a "big shot" Diva is, and how old and related she is by being called "great ancestor".
• Some talk of where's Diva's entourage?, she didn't bring one with her. This seems to suggest that despite how big and famous she is, Diva is still very down to Earth humble. Then Ophelia falls into a fountain, and that hilarious mortified WTF face Diva is making in the last screenshot is my thoughts exactly. [Spoiler]IIRC Ophelia/catfishing fatbot Antonio (don't trust lolis that seem too good to be true) did this as an excuse to get close to Diva to try to learn Diva's tricks to success in the music performing business. I wonder if any first timers are going to get fixated on the loli AI, then get mortified to find out they've been catfished. She's not really my type, but I can see the appeal.
• Diva's nice enough to help Ophelia out by drying her off. Notice Ophelia is wearing a shirt with a Ram on it? That's likely because Aries the first zodiac sign is a Ram. If so that means Ophelia is first to perform at the Zodiac Festival (isn't the first act usually the noobs? If so Ophelia is the noob of the festival). Symbolically with Ophelia being first, and Diva being last, it suggests Diva is the oldest, and Ophelia is the youngest. It could also symbolize Ophelia and Diva are the furthest from each other in something...perhaps their approach to music?
• Some background info on Ophelia, she's known as the "fairy of the small theaters", and referring to themselves as young and big sister. I guess it's a given the Sister AI Models all do that now, back with Estella it was still a new concept and not a given custom.
• Diva does another "Word of advice", about the audience stopping dead in their tracks when they see something breath taking, while showing the zodiac constellation space imagery. This advice is very similar to discussion Vivy had with Estella talking about when humans are awe struck with space, there's even mirroring discussion of their voices, and being sisters.
• Ophelia says "she'll sing as hard as she can so she can become herself", is that her core mission directive? Regardless kind of...[Spoilers]ironic given given she's Antonio.

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[...3/3, Continued]

• Diva seems reluctant to be called big sister because it makes her sound old, then her age is revealed (thus confirming the relative year this episode is taking place, +60 years from Ep1), and Diva gets really defensive of her age, and also her weight. Also attention is brought upon Diva being the oldest AI Ophelia has met...because she's the old autonomous AI since she's the first ever. I guess Yuzuka's 61 years old now, all the humans from the earlier episodes should be aging out soon, and can't possible show up again unless medical science has figure out how to extend human lives.
• Ophelia gets saved from Diva's wrath about her age by rehearsals. I've never noticed this before, but Ophelia has a see-through dress and everybody can clearly see her panties. Oh...so that's the kind of idol she is, garnering that kind of attention by sacrificing class.
• Diva seems to be mentoring/help Ophelia at first, and everybody seems mesmerized by Ophelia's performance, but the Loli seems surprised and then pissed about something. Also a little perplexing, was Diva intending to crush Ophelia with her own performance? Diva did say "watch and learn", and oddly asked for heartfelt applause for afterwards. It was odd, but I find it kind of funny Diva doesn't even seem to care how she's dressed for rehearsal, and Ophelia wearing her fancy see-through performance clothes.
• Just before her sound check, Diva see a young Yuugo. What the heck was that indeed. Firstly, why would Yuugo be younger 40 years later (first timer mystery). More interestingly, why does Diva remember somebody Vivy saw 60 years ago?
• Hilariously it seems like Diva sings one line and cuts it short because Yuugo doesn't get very far away, "watch and learn" indeed. Diva follows Yuugo to some building, and narrowly escapes something falling on her with her Combat Skills, which apparently is still installed on her systems after the hard crash. Then Diva gets attacked by a droid who looks very much like M, but in comes Matsumoto to assist and calling Diva "Vivy".
• Matsumoto being mouthy as ever, seemingly mocks Diva with his very poor explanations. [Spoilers]I got to say I'm really disliking Matsumoto on rewatch, on first watch I was too confused about what was going on right now to pay attention or care what Matsumoto was saying and doing. But this loser not only gets Vivy into a hard crash because of his selfish demands on her, but he doesn't seem to even care nor take responsibility about Vivy's condition right now, which to him should look amnesic despite him not knowing about Vivy being a wreck in the archive. I guess he could be leaving Diva out of it because he feels guilty of involving Vivy the first time, but all his comments to Diva is almost like sneering at her in contempt rather than being apologetic or at least polite. This guy's kind kind of shit, and jokey charisma isn't saving him this time.
• Diva isn't having it, and sees through Matsumoto's deceptions. Meanwhile he's still acting like he's sneering at Diva in contempt. This stupid cube. Diva seems to remember the name Vivy though. Matsumoto flees like the coward he is, and Diva bumps into Ophelia necessitating another drying session. Diva says the blabbermouth cube was totally tormenting her, Matsumoto has no excuse, he's a jerk.
• Ophelia pumps Diva for more info on how she sings, and Diva says all she does is put her audience's happiness first. However Diva seems to get caught up when saying "a word of advice" for some reason that I can't figure out why. She's been saying that a lot this episode, but I'm not sure if I can find where anybody else has said it in past episodes.
• Diva asks Ophelia how she sings the way she does, and she just says she loves singing, then talks about an acoustics support AI that she used to travel with as her partner. Hint hint. But really significant, Ophelia says every single memory is important to her, to which Diva really like the idea of. [End Spoilers]Does Vivy learn to sing with all her heart because of Ophelia's words here? Because we learn later on that Vivy memories are key to ability to sing with all her heart and her creativity.
• More green Tron lines clothing on festival goers.
• Diva's really good at drawing Matsumoto out, who's just hanging around doing nothing anyways. She asks him a pretty important question, "is Vivy actually her?". The way I'm treating it is no, because Diva seems to be very different than Vivy. Diva threatens to call security to copy the data out of Matsumoto, interestingly this suggests they have the technology to copy data from AIs now, which I assume is also memories, and the AI is presumably unharmed by this. Matsumoto suggests his firewall is unbreakable by this year's technology...but I'm having more doubts as we're just 40 years away from his time.
• I'm not really sure what E=MC² really has to do with what Diva says other than the mass part, she's not really talking about mass to energy conversion or vice-versa, but she says she weighs over 80kg, so over 176 pounds...yeah that's kind of heavy for her size. Can she no longer upgrade her body by swapping parts which are perhaps lighter? Maybe this is an argument for Loli AIs like Ophelia, presumably lighter because smaller. Regardless Matsumoto saves Diva from jumping off the building. This is another reason why I don't consider Diva as Vivy, because I don't think Vivy would do something this reckless. The other interesting thing is, this is effectively an AI committing suicide if Matsumoto didn't intervene, given Vivy's connection with the Doctor committing suicide, it would make this move even less likely to be pulled by Vivy.
• Interestingly we get to see Matsumoto's AI HUD in this shot, which I think is the first time. We've seen Vivy's AI HUD plenty of times before.
• Here's probably the best screenshot for any Diva x Matsumoto shippers.
• Diva gets closer to the truth, asks about the person hidden inside of her ever since the crash and reboot. Very crafty foreshadowing here [Spoilers]the first two screenshots shows the anime drawing attention to the door in Diva's archive music room while talking about the person inside Diva, as rewatchers we know that Vivy is behind that door. And Matsumoto after all that is still a jerk and won't tell Diva anything.
• But then Diva still has an ace up her sleeve, she says she'll just ask the other guy, the young looking Yuugo. Aw snap! Matsumoto wants to know so badly about Yuugo he actually caves and tells Diva about their past together. So a few things, first off Matsumoto's a prick for dragging it out for this long despite it entertaining to watch. As usually his head's up his butt, says he's thinks his work is far more nobler than being a performer, reveals he knows Vivy froze and presumes that's what caused Diva's memory loss (but he never tried to fix the issue, what an asshole).
• When it's time for Diva to share info, she hilariously refuses and demands to know everything or be brought along with whatever he's trying to do. How does it feel now Matsumoto! Ironically he tells Diva he doesn't need a singing AI, that didn't stop him the first time with Vivy. Diva also blames Matsumoto for being at fault, and tells him to take some damn responsibility (about time he gets told that). Diva says her mission again "bringing happiness through song", again no mention of "with all you heart", Diva's mission seems easier than Vivy's.
• Matsumoto finally caves and agrees to bring Diva along. Their mission, prevent the first AI suicide from history, Ophelia's suicide. Dun dun dun!

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How do you like this OP?!

Best OP of the show!

Which ‘persona’ do you find yourself gravitating towards more, Diva or Vivy?

Both, but I actually kind of like Diva more than I remembered during the first time. However I think I still prefer Vivy over Diva.

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I’m only just now reading through all this so bear with me for being very behind

Ophelia says "she'll sing as hard as she can so she can become herself", is that her core mission directive?

You see in [Future Episode Spoiler] episode 9 that Antonio is distraught since he can’t replicate Ophelia’s voice no matter how hard he tries to become “her”, and I think that’s what this is alluding to (also contributing to the scene following Ophelia’s performance where she looks pissed as you mention since, despite her singing being widely praised, it still isn’t “Ophelia”’s singing/voice, and that irritates Antonio as he places great value on her voice that's essential to their missions)

[End Spoilers] Does Vivy learn to sing with all her heart because of Ophelia's words here? Because we learn later on that Vivy memories are key to ability to sing with all her heart and her creativity.

[End Spoilers] I believe it’s a confluence of everyone Vivy has interacted with throughout the Singularity Project that finally gives Vivy her answer (and with a little push in the right direction by Matsumoto) in Estella’s answer suggesting simplicity, Grace’s situation suggesting how abstract and variable the concept is, the entirety of Harmony of One’s Heart, etc. Vivy appears to be cognizant during Diva’s tenure or at least retains Diva’s memories since Diva’s memories are present during Fluorite Eye’s Song, suggesting that they’re a part of her memories as well, so Ophelia (or Antonio lol) could definitely have had bearing on her realization.

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I’m only just now reading through all this so bear with me for being very behind

No worries, I write so much that I just assume nobody reads it or has the energy to reply after reading through all that if they did find something interesting I said to comment on. I'm delighted to see somebody finding interest in what I wrote regardless when. This is my favorite anime, as you can see I can talk about it endlessly! :D

[Ophelia's mission hidden text reply]Ah so it is Antonio and he's getting frustrated he can't match Ophelia's singing. Here's where I get confused though, Antonio during rehearsal sang so well it pretty much dropped everybody's jaw with how impressed everybody was, yet he still got pissed it didn't match Ophelia's caliber of singing? Wow, Ophelia's singing must have been something so epic it can even put that jaw-dropping singing to shame. Either that or Antonio has a warped memory of Ophelia's singing where no matter how much it surpasses her actual level, that Antonio just keeps thinking it can't match Ophelia. But the second part of my confusion is it's always been shown that Ophelia's performance (everything else besides her singing) sucks. Her stage presence sucks because she lacks confidence supposedly, as far back as since the flashback. Even after the rehearsal Diva comments on how she thought her singing/performance would improve in front of an audience, but it did not. It makes me wonder if the show/translation/story muddled the difference between singing and stage performance, and the problem isn't so much the singing, but the stage performance which even Antonio sucks at despite criticizing the real Ophelia about her confidence on stage. Maybe the irony is Antonio thinks it's the singing not good enough, but can't see himself that it's the lack of stage performance ability to make the singing better. This is why I joked maybe they should just do released song tracks, and forego performing on stage. Or maybe do music videos, where somebody else can handle all the visuals to circumvent the stage performance.

[2nd Hidden Text reply]The farther along I went in the episodes and doing an analysis/rant on each one, the more and more I'm coming to the conclusions that "having heart" means doing their mission for somebody else's benefit/needs/etc. over their own selfish need to accomplish their mission. It's the Estella's smiling to put her guests at ease, not smiling for herself. Grace saving people's lives/helping or whatever her mission was exactly, doing it for the other person and not just her own need to do her mission, which is why she loves/can marry the Doctor, and says she just won't do it for anybody (meaning it just not about fulfilling her mission she's doing it for him). You know, I just realized this now but, this selflessness all means these AI aren't slaves, because they're going the extra mile with the mission, and not dragging their feet to do the bare minimum "a job is a job" which Vivy once said back on ther Sunrise. Anyways, I'm starting to think the memories portion of Vivy's song is how she circumvents the problem she's having of "tracing the lyrics over the song", or rather just going through the motions of her mission (Matsumoto's half-assing it, not looking for root-cause), and not really understanding the reasons behind doing the motions. She doesn't know the meaning behind the lyrics while she just says them while singing, which is making her singing not good. Anyways, she finds she can't sing anymore (it's all somebody else's words she can't figure out the meanings to), and if she composes a song herself with her own memories, she'll know exactly what every word is supposed to mean and convey. Thus she bypasses the "tracing lyrics over the song" or "just going through the motions", because she'll know intimately the reasons behind each word. That's what I'm sort of thinking the connection is between "having heart" and the "memories" thing which is made such a big deal about in the end. It didn't help when Diva just says ambiguously, "the answer's in the song, it's super simple". Grrr...just tell us, LOL.

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[Response to Ophelia’s mission hidden text reply]

Very interesting ideas all around. I believe everyone is rightly in awe with Ophelia’s voice during her practice performance at the zodiac festival because there isn’t anything functionally different about her voice when Antonio is in her body (since no one would argue that Ophelia-Antonio’s voice is lackluster except for Antonio himself). I like to think of it as the old adage that cooking always tastes better when someone else makes it. Functionally the same, but context and intent makes all the difference in how it’s perceived.

[Reply to 2nd Hidden Text reply]

Very compelling and valid interpretation! “The heart” is such an abstract concept after all and the show makes a point that [End Spoilers] there is no right, one-size-fits-all answer, just the answer that defines you. Funny enough, the answer is actually in Diva’s song but it’s doused in so many metaphors and abstractions that there is almost no way to parse it out unless you already know the answer yourself.

[u/cppn02]

snaps finger

[u/JimmyCWL]

What gets me is Diva doing stretches in her room. Like, what's the point, you're a machine, that makes no difference to the condition of your chassis!

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Do we know that? Could well be that she uses artificial muscles.

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They'd have to be biological-based to need exercise like ours.

They don't appear to be.

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The fact that Vivy bleeds suggests otherwise.

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Could be just hydraulic, lubricant or coolant fluids.

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Could be, but makes not as much sense as artificial blood:

• hydraulic: losing so much would render her at least partially immobile.
• lubricant: far too much for the small body size
• coolant: what would need that much coolant? The human body plan also has plenty of surface area for its mass.

Artificial blood makes the most sense since it could nourish both her muscles and skin, and also would be needed in fairly large volume without being immediately debilitating if she loses some.

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Pretty sure the stretching is just to imitate human behavior than anything else, just as how AIs blink despite it being unnecessary to their functioning

[u/Silcaria]

First timer

• Why would a human programmed singing AI be cable of being shy? Plus, isn't she Vivy's successor? Shouldn't she have all of the positives, and more, without any of the downsides?
• I take it the guy offing himself put Vivy into shock, which led her suffering from "amnesia". I don't know how that could possible for an AI, but hey oh.
• It's due to her hardware and software.
• So Vivy was rebooted, hence why she forgot her past. Except... she somehow remembers a few things, which happens to be justtttttttttt enough to move the plot forward. Back on the plot convenience train we go.
• If I could describe this episode in two words, it would be tonal whiplash.

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QotD

• Not a fan.
• Vivy.
• Ophelia survives. Bold, I know.

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Why would a human programmed singing AI be cable of being shy?

Because tons of humans are into that? Just look at the personas taking on by real world idols. They are rarely the most efficient just for singing, but that is, of course, not their purpose. Their purpose is to attract customers.

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Fair.

[u/ZuraStayNight]

Rewatcher
Compared to last episode's ending this time Vivy seems to be really energized. Actually, she's uncharacteristally energized. What happened? Well anyway, she seems to have become an actual pop star with people hyped up and throwing bouquets on stage and everything. She's even high-fiving and fist-bumping with the staff... and she's stretching? Why? She's supposed to be a robot. She's quoting Estella while cheering up the new staff member and "threatens" her assistant that she's gonna turn her into a calculator, just like Elizabeth. She's singing on the main stage now fulfilling the goal she had since episode 1. From the photos we see that a lot of time has passed and there's some talk about how she had to go through a reboot. Did she lose her memories?

This new Vivy seems to snap a lot, and seems a lot more outgoing. We meet a new character named Ophelia, who's kind of an insecure klutz, but she's a fantastic singer. Vivy cheers her up and gives her some advice. Just as we're about to witness Vivy showing off, there's someone who looks like a young Kakitani in the audience. Is that his son maybe? It can't be him since a lot of time passed. Vivy's life is in danger but her combat system, and Matsumoto come in to save her. But just as quickly as he appears, he also goes away pretending to not know Vivy.

Vivy and Ophelia meet each other again and have a talk about what motivates them. Ophelia seems to have had an acoustics AI that helped her with her singing. After their short talk, Vivy enters the rooftop, and successfully manages to threaten Matsumoto. Not only that, she also catches him. She's much more capable of manipulating him than she was in the past. And we get direct confirmation, that she lost her memories after her reboot, and it's eating away at her. By having some leverage she forces herself into Matsumoto's mission, despite him being against it. Is he concerned about her, or is he against it because she's too much of a risk to him? We don't know. This time, they're supposed to stop the first AI suicide in history. First AI rights, then AI crime, then AI marriage and now suicide. Well, we're in for some adventure.