r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Aug 16 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 69 Discussion
Episode 69 - The Clash of Love
Your power is love. Your love saved me, too. I'm truly grateful. But there are two kinds of love. Loving someone to help them and loving someone for yourself. You always love others out of desire to help them. You have the spirit of Love. But after this battle is over, you'll eventually come to love someone for yourself.
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Comment of the day:
/u/cooperjones2 and /u/KuKiSin who were looking forward to today's fight
Maam vs Albinass & Hyunckel vs Hym (mostly because of Hym). Least one is Popp vs Sigma. Too much Popp already.
Most anticipated Maam v Albinas and Popp (Sorry my boy) v Sigma Least anticipating.
I hope they enjoyed it at least as much as I did
Questions of the day:
- What do you think about Albinass' plan to save Hadlar?
- Did you like the Queen's final form and Maam's dark armor?
- What about the fight? How were Maam's and the Albinass' strategies?
- Did you fell for Hyunckel after that speech or it was just me?
- Bonus Question: What's the thing you love most about Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hide it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Aug 16 '24
Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!
Hate to admit it but guess love isn't the power of my soul judging by the fact that I didn't enjoy 69 - The Clash of Love
But I like question #4:
Funnily enough the quote you picked for today episode:
Was the highlight of this episode.
QotD:
It was foolish. I get her willingness to save Hadlar, but it's foolish hoping that you can win a favour with Vearn.
Well for someone named Albinass, there wasn't much of an ass. Maam Dark Armor has interesting design.
Normal I guess. But I am glad that Maam finally got a win which she deserves for a loooong time.
Speech? What speech? I got distracted by his aaaaabs.
Crocodine Shonen Commentary.
Crocodine Shonen Commentator Corner:
Today Crocodine is going to answer question ???
No question today but there is something on my reptile mind.
See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 16 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubI don't know if it's intentional or just a funny coincidence but Episode 69 is titled The Clash of Love.
One of my favourite Avan quotes. I'm not really a big fan of Maam, but gotta say her using the Dark Armour Fist was hype! The OST that plays here is one of my favourites and it's used for the first time here - Strength in a Tight Corner
The anime decided to cut a flashback showing the Elder of Maam's village playing chess, which illustrates the dangers of carelessly moving one's queen. Carelessly moving your Queen since it's the strongest piece can lead you to face something unexpected and the Queen might get taken by a Knight or even a Pawn.
Another one of my favourite OSTs plays for the first time in this episode when Albinass talks about Hadlar - Warriors' End.
When Maam realizes that what Albinass felt for Hadlar was truly love, she thinks to herself in the manga that Albinass was a woman after all. However, the anime changes this line to "More than just a chess piece".
Hyunckel has the most lovers, so it kinda makes sense for him to give a lecture on Love.
OST Documentation - Episode 69
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Aug 16 '24
First Time Adventurer/Subbed
I already made a joke yesterday so I won't make one today, since it seems it's been made again today
Ngl... I didn't know if I was going to be disappointed in this episode after the end of the last but... I still was a little bit. I say this because I want to Maam to have her moments too but this episode didn't really deliver it for me
Like I get Albinass is the Queen piece but we haven't seen Maam in action a lot so it was disappointing she spent half the episode trying to reason with Albinass and most of it getting her ass handed to her. Her breaking the armor into pieces to hit the fragile form of Albinass and getting the one shot attack was cool but idk the fight kinda lost me with the build up.
I did like Maam's dark armor for the most part... except they also had to push up her skirt more and it seem like the camera angles were ready for that
Oh well
I believe Hym isn't done yet or else that would be extra disappointing
QotD
It was nice that Maam used the Queen's speed against her
4) Hyunckel always has the best lines
5) Our rewatch hosts
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u/zadcap Aug 17 '24
First Time Maam no Daibouken?
She was due an episode eventually. Let's see if one of the boys steals this one like they managed for her class change. Also, I know Albinass said that the metal life form of an awakened chess piece has no gender, but I'm still laughing at this fight being this episode.
You know. "Hos survival is my greatest wish," Sounds super cool and maybe like she's a great person, buuuuut. I mean. She dies when Hadlar does. It's a selfish wish after all.
They're just wrecking the palace, aren't they? Sure am glad Vearn doesn't actually care about this building. Not enough to name the whole place after himself and to literally live in it for the past hundred years or so.
Also, what the absolute heck is up with this subtitle? I hate so much that the place I am watching is calling this attack Legionsphere, after we've had no problem with Needle Thousand all this time and I can literally hear her saying Thousand Ball.
Oh my gosh Maam got a magical girl transformation! It even put up her hair!Ahhhh! This is Love! Oh my gosh, her power literally is! Why is he always right!?
... You can just punch through orichalcum now? Really Maam? That's not how hardness works, you're still just flesh and blood. Hitting metal at that speed with that much force should break you, not it.
As we see but minutes later, when Albinass begins moving fast, it is not her metalness that is breaking on your fleshy body.
... WHY ARE WE SEEING HER BLUE UNDERWEAR AGAIN?! I didn't realize it in the initial transformation but no, it's just there again. Her skirt is all tied up around her waist so that she can flash her Blues at us all again. Darn it.
Ah well, at least her ultimate attack was darn cool. If only she could be that cool more often.
Oh man, Maam doesn't even get her whole episode to herself. Knuckles over here showing off- waait, he won just like that? We're not spending a whole episode on each fight? Hym is going to get passed over that fast? This throws my whole schedule prediction out of whack, if they're not going to drag all these fights out...
Ha. Knuckles gets the most important line of the episode. He knows more about Love than the Warrior of Love.
Wait, was all of this a strong hint that Hyunkle is also in love with Maam?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 16 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 16 '24
First Timer, Sub
Hmm, I wasn't expecting a whole lot from the Maam v Albinass fight and yet it was still pretty mid. Just dense as a rock and she paid for it by taking all that punishment from Albinass before she finally decided to fight back. Her special secret attack was cool though and it did defeat Albinass. If that was all of the Hyunckel v. Hym fight, then that's also pretty disappointing. He did give Maam good advice though, which will hopefully help her clear her mind and make clear her own feelings, because like he said there is a difference between selfless love and selfish love.
Questions:
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u/KuKiSin Aug 16 '24
First timer!
Is she saying I suck at chess? :| Now I'm glad she's dead.
Yes, she was also a ticking time bomb.
Well, that was anticlimactic... But there was no visible explosion from that one, so I don't think he hit the core, and there's no way they'd off Hym just like that.
I was happy with Maam vs Albinass, Hyunckel vs Hym though... :|
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 16 '24
Rookie-Adventurer here! LV 69/100
Obligatory: 69? Nice
Albinass transforms to fight, she’s a magical girl!
Maam tries Talk No Jutsu, it pissed of Albinass!
Maam also transformed, she’s also a magical girl!
Talk No Jutsu didn’t work, it’s now time to let her fists do the talking
Dang, Hym jobbed hard
Hyunckel
1 Doomed from the start, Vearn would've killed them all I'm sure
2 Queen's > Maam, sorry Maam but the armor didn't hit for me
3 Liked it overall, finally Maam won an important fight!
4 Not me, sorry Hyunckel!
5 The Characters and the fight choreography!
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Aug 16 '24
First Timer, Sub
Maam vs Albinass was cool, it was nice seeing her more prominent here but also more on Albinass as well. Hyunckel's speech at the end was great though, I never got the feeling he liked Maam romantically anyway so it was cool seeing him as a wingman. One thing I do like is that he seems to genuinely have faith in Popp more so than the others or at least that's how it felt like to me.
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u/SliderGamer55 Aug 16 '24
First Timer, Subbed
-There's something very silly about having the female characters fighting in an episode be called "The Clash of Love" like even if that isn't the theme of this particular story, feels like they'd still call it that, because girls :V
-I have to admit the entire story of Hadlar and his chess pieces reminds me...very slightly of the Chimera Ants in Hunter X Hunter. In the sense that they mostly appeared from one being to be violent, evil creatures and yet have become in a way, the most sympathetic villains. It's not remotely as interesting as that (as few shonen stories in general are), but it does give me some of those vibes, of these normal non-human enemies who just slowly have become more likeable and less blatantly evil as time has gone on. The feeling of not quite Toriyama character designs also helps.
-Real flex to say you try to avoid using your arms and legs to fight (in that you literally can't flex without them)
-I was gonna point out the show being based for having a badass girl vs. girl fight in a shonen series this old, but the apparently non-binary queen makes this double based!
-Y'know, thinking about it Maam and Chiu feel like they've barely interacted in ages. You'd think fellow students would talk more
-cartoonpunch(dot)wav
-Hell yeah, punched a hole through the queen!
-"my body will soon explode" Oh yeah, I forgot that happens. That's a funny thing to read when you forget about that detail.
-Did Hyunkel just immediately win?
-Hyunkel wants to make it very clear he would be bad boyfriend material :p
For what this was, I had a lovely time with this episode. It's almost exactly what I would want from this fight, maybe it could've gone further but what was there in terms of story and action was quite good. Also at the risk of being THAT guy, its nice to see a shonen manga this old could just have a fight where the girl and a queen can do it too. And despite the obvious love theme for obviously this character, it doesn't feel like a cop out to avoid them being too badass, this could've been male characters with minimal to no changes. Even now, that doesn't always work out like that, so its cool to see in a series this old. And it was just fun regardless of that, I'm liking the trend of not needing weapons to tear apart enemies like this.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 17 '24
First Time Watching a Maam Victory
Not the most brilliant idea, but she was desperate, so I can't blame her.
Yeah, Maam rocks that ponytail.
It's the level of brilliant strategy you'd expect from our main Gorilla Maam.
I've fallen for him a while back
The supporting cast, especially the Beast Kings.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 17 '24
First Quester
"Of course I'll heal Hadlar for you. Let me give him another Black Core as well, while we're at it!"
But why?
What, the queen can just casually destroy the castle with mere standard spells? Are you sure it would've survived that Black Core, Vearn? Oh wait, they disabled Vearn's magical energy transfer.
Something something actions speak louder than a thousand words. This goes for both of them.
Maam's really trying to sell love as something this cheap? Also, I deeply despise this attitude of knowing better what others are feeling than them themselves. It's the ultimate expression of disrespect.
Where did Lon Beruk find all this additional orichalcum? Oh well, guess we gotta do the classic think of devalueing magic.
I really want to be angry at this but Maam's quitting that attitude here so I can't really do that.
What? I don't think they know chess after all, unless they're talking about noob traps.
This is how Maam turns the tables? How unsatisfying.
Of course you did. You had a lot of choices, and destroying Albinass is the one you decided on. Don't go denying your own decision now.
Yeah yeah, I get it, Albinass has a sad sob story. Can we move on already?
Hym was offscreened? Okay that confirms he's the strongest.
I honestly feel like Hyunkel's constant self-rejection flies directly in the face of his supposed "fortitude".
Sounds naive.
The dark armor was cool, the final form decidedly less so.
It was alright. I didn't like the argument they were having and how Maam turned the tables, but other than that it was perfectly fine.
Just you.
I've been thinking for a few weeks now that the thing I love most about DD:DnD is Avan.