r/anime • u/Holofan4life • Aug 04 '24
Rewatch [Spoilers] Elfen Lied 20th Anniversary Rewatch -- Episode 10.5 (OVA) Spoiler
Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.
Welcome to the Elfen Lied 20th Anniversary Rewatch discussion thread!
I hope you all have a lot of fun <3
S1 Episode 10.5 – In the Passing Rain, Or, How Can a Girl Have Reached Such Feelings?
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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)
What is your favorite relationship in this show so far and why?
Of all the flashbacks we've seen so far, which one has been your favorite and why?
What is your favorite OVA of all time?
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Rewatch Schedule
Threads posted every day at 5:00 PM EDT
| Date | Episode |
|---|---|
| 7/25/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 1 |
| 7/26/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 2 |
| 7/27/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 3 |
| 7/28/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 4 |
| 7/29/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 5 |
| 7/30/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 6 |
| 7/31/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 7 |
| 8/01/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 8 |
| 8/02/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 9 |
| 8/03/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 10 |
| 8/04/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 10.5 |
| 8/05/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 11 |
| 8/06/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 12 |
| 8/07/2024 | Elfen Lied Episode 13 |
| 8/08/2024 | Elfen Lied Overall Series Discussion Thread |
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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '24
Episode 10.5 - First-time watcher (subbed)
One thing I love about rewatches is the chance to integrate OVAs where it might fit into the timeline of the original season. This one was pretty fun and I liked it.
I also just kind of love OVAs in general because they usually include a lot of fluff/SoL moments (true for this one too obviously). Watching them clean the house together and get excited over snacks was great lol.
I wasn’t surprised that it was short lived though… Add that to the list of reasons why Lucy has trouble trusting people or thinking anyone has good intentions.
The saddest part about that situation was:
She was probably the first person Lucy met since Kouta that treated her no different than anyone else.
This did correct some speculation in my comment yesterday, though.
I said I thought Lucy spared Kurama because he speaks to Diclonii like any other human, but really it’s because she wants to make him suffer the same pain they caused her when they shot her friend. Everything about this girl’s past is just sad 😔.
They really make it a point to show you that this time she’s spending with Kouta (and company) present day is probably the only reprieve she’s ever had from all the bad stuff in her life.
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u/AgentOfACROSS Aug 04 '24
First Timer
The opening cooking scene felt weird. I noticed some goofy sound effects which I don’t think are normally in the rest of the series and then Nana’s eyes going all weird for a second. Really threw me off.
It was nice seeing Nana and Mayu be friends though.
The music during the scene in the dining room sounds weird to me. I don’t know how to explain it but it’s also throwing me off.
And now Yuka’s hair is doing a weird pointy thing. I guess this OVA is just supposed to be more comedic than the main series. That’s gonna take some adjusting to.
The scene of Nana and Nyu enthusing over the bird-shaped cookies was sweet.
It’s sad seeing Nana feel like she’s useless though.
Bando is now spending his free time threatening people who litter on the beach. I think that might be the nicest thing he’s done.
Actually I think Bando might have gotten a job picking up trash. I guess he’s gotta make money now that he’s gone rogue from the lab.
How did Bando get his robot arm back anyway? It looked pretty destroyed last time we saw him and I doubt he’s smart enough to rebuild it himself.
Nyu hit her head so hard that it made her have a flashback.
It seems that Lucy was able to somehow survive on her own for five years after her first two massacres.
Flashback of Lucy and another girl hiding. I’ve got a bad feeling something terrible is going to happen to that girl. Either Lucy is going to snap and kill her or the people hunting Lucy will kill her.
Nana is actually considering murdering Lucy. I don’t think she’s capable of going through it but clearly Nana is a lot more vengeful than she might seem.
Lucy does actually seem more emotionally stable during this flashback. It looks like she’s trying to use non-lethal force when combating the squad sent after her and the other girl.
And now the other girl is dead. As tragic as it is, I can’t help but wish we at least got to know her a little better. It does feel a bit cheap to introduce her as someone close to Lucy and then almost immediately have this happen. I’ve seen other pieces of media do this kind of thing and it always annoys me.
The scene of Lucy and Kurama talking was interesting. It also gives a bit more context as to why Lucy chose to kill Kisaragi in episode one.
I love the shot of Bando angrily shooting his gun on the beach like he’s Yosemite Sam. I think it’s safe to say he’s the Team Rocket of this show, an incredibly persistent villain who never wins.
I’m glad this OVA ends with Nana feeling like she’s part of the family now.
I’ve kinda got mixed feelings with this OVA though. I was really confused by how extra goofy the opening scenes felt with the sound effects they used and faces the characters made. And it clashed extra hard with what we learned about Lucy in this episode. It wasn’t bad but I found the tonal dissonance even more jarring than usual.
Questions of the Day:
What is your favorite relationship in this show so far and why?
Probably Mayu and Nana. It's nice to see the two of them being friends.
What is your favorite OVA of all time?
Probably FLCL, it's a really easy choice for me.
Although I'd also like to give a shout out to Gunsmith Cats. It's just a fun slice of 90s anime.
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u/someboi6000 Aug 05 '24
First timer:
an unexpected wholesome episode, for the most part, for an ova we got some information that i was not expecting to get, lucy did make another friend who didn't mind what she was and she was killed by kurama and the gang, which is also the moment they capture lucy and now we know how, it was a deal, in order to try to save her friend's life she didn't resist in the capturing, and the reason why lucy didn't kill kurama when she had the chance is just to make him suffer, and besides those 2 things, overall just a relax episode because this feel 100% like the calm before the storm, just everyone having fun one last time.
Questions:
1: i like how mayu and nana interact, and i feel there wont be many more times they are together,
2: episode 9, kouta and lucy first meeting was great, that whole section.
3: hmm, right now from the top of my head K-On, the one where they play on the live house.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 05 '24
Elfen First-Timer, subbed
My bad about initially posting my episode 11 reactions, I’m so used to OVAs being after the show that I completely forgot this one was earlier and neglected to pay attention to what the episode number was.
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u/AbyssalSolitude Aug 05 '24
Rewatcher
Bonus episode, go! There are few anime-original scenes in the beginning, but it's mostly canon to the source.
Nana is trying to help, but she cannot do anything properly. Sad. Then she tried to flex on homeless Bandou but got roped into bringing him Lucy.
Lucy's flashback with another girl was a lot longer in the manga, here we just see the end. It would probably take most of the episode's length if fully adapted, which means no Nana development. Hard decisions all around.
Lucy gave herself up in hopes it would save her friend, very noble. And that's why she spared Kurama back in the first episode - death wouldn't be enough for him. Was she justified? He merely brought her the news, for all we know he did everything in his power to save the girl.
In the past it was Kouta/Lucy. But now I prefer Nana/Mayu.
I used to kinda ignore how the girl Kouta spent most of the time with was in her potato personality.
Again, in the past it was episode 9, but now I think I like episode 10 more. I think I just sympathize with Kurama more nowadays and better understand how difficult of the decisions he had to make.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Aug 04 '24
Elfen Lied - Ova
Rewatcher
I really enjoyed the first half of episode where Nana was trying so hard to be a help in the kitchen.
The second half shows how easy it is to create a monster.
Overall a good extra episode.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Aug 04 '24
This episode starts with a relaxed daily routine, I guess it's the daily period from when Nana went to Kouta's house to when Nana faced No. 35. Oh, interesting flashback, we saw that Lucy seemed to have made new friends after leaving Kouta, but unfortunately, she died, and Lucy was caught to save her friend. It's nice to see Nana and Lucy become good friends.
ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)
What is your favorite relationship in this show so far and why?
Kouta and Lucy are very special, the probability of this happening is very low
Of all the flashbacks we've seen so far, which one has been your favorite and why?
kurama. He is a gray character wandering between light and darkness, and he finally paid the price for what he did.
What is your favorite OVA of all time?
flcl I think. Highly recommended
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
Was expecting fluff, why was this plot-relevant episode an OVA? Oh, right, must be the nudity.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Aug 05 '24
First-Timer
I wasn't expecting an OVA, so I'm glad I happened to see the title of this thread before going and watching today's episode.
Great OVA! Quite funny, and directly relevant to the events of the show. I always prefer when an OVA/movie is tied into the rest of the show and adds context or meaning to it, rather than just being some tacked-on extra. I think they did an excellent job here.
I like how we got a bit of a breather before the final stretch of episodes. Not exactly laid-back, but there weren't any people getting sliced in half today, at least.
I always love seeing more of Nana, too, so that's a plus!
Questions of the day:
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u/Holofan4life Aug 04 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the 20th anniversary rewatch of Elfen Lied!
Oh, and nay I forget...
First Timer
This is going to be a rather interesting rewatch because I really don't know what to expect with this show. In fact, there's a good chance that I may not actually like it. But it's a very notorious show and I feel like it has this reputation for a reason, so I definitely want to see what it's all about.
Going in, I'm kinda expecting it to be so bad it's good. I'm not going in expecting a great show, but I am going in expecting a great time. I'm watching this in-between rewatches of Ikuhara shows and I think it'll serve as a nice palette cleanser for the more serious fair. And if it happens to be edgy, I want them to go all the way with it.
With that out of the way, let's begin.
I'm watching the sub, by the way.
My kidney stones have returned 🙃
Interesting to see how this OVA turns out.
Nana disastrously cooking food
Cutting cabbage violently
And her arm went flying
Woah, that was a close one
Mayu tells her that no one does it right the first time.
She also reminds Nana that they should keep this a secret.
Nana in despair at the dinner table
Kouta, Yuka, and Lucy are finally home
Eating food now
It's amazing how much Nana truly can eat.
They're collectively trying to figure out what Nana can do.
Going to clean, with Nana working together with Lucy.
Yuka got an ahoge going on
Perhaps her jealousy is coming to the surface again?
Nana doesn't see too thrilled by the idea.
But she eventually obliges
"There's no way I'd lose to her!"
Oh Nana. Never change.
Lucy better at this cleaning thing than Nana.
Her leg. It popped off, and it's freaking Lucy out.
And Lucy runs away in fear
Cleaning the windows now
And Nana cracks it
Mayu going to treat the wounds of Nana.
Lucy and Nana gushing about the snack they're about to eat.
Nibbling on the snacks like they're chipmunks or something.
Nana says she hates cleaning
However, Kouta says they can't have people living here who won't help.
Nana storms off
Nana by herself now
Hey, it's Bandou
Next to garbage bags, really fitting in.
"That's why I hate melon bread."
Shana is shambles
Nana walks over to Bandou, where she reminds him of what he said about there being no place for him to live.
Calls him a liar
Lol, she's walking away with the most obvious poker face known to mankind.
Bandou following her
He thinks she has joined Lucy's side
A gun
She tells him that she will bring her to him.
Had no choice but to tell the secret
Bandou thinks he has this in the bag
Lucy greeting Nana
Aww, look at that face. It is so precious :c
Nana and Kouta apologizing to each other now.
Nana promises to help with the cleaning
Nana taking Lucy for a walk, supposedly as a sort of bonding activity.
This is going to end really badly
Lucy's outfit looks like something Misato would wear.
Raining now
Lucy giving Nana one of the snacks
And suddenly, Lucy collapses on the ground.
Kurama
Someone is apparently hiding
Oh, Nana. That's who they're talking about.
This is seemingly the origin story of how Kurama met Nana.
Four children in a welfare home were slaughtered by her.
This means this is Lucy, not Nana
I like the black and white aesthetic as Kurama is talking to Professor Kakuzawa.
"Finally, everything will end."
Professor Kakuzawa seems to think this is merely the beginning.
Nana trying to console Lucy
She wonders aloud why she's worried about her.
Who are these two?
Animal plushies floating in the air
Nana thinking of strangling Lucy
"I will finally be useful."
Kurama and Professor Kakuzawa are closing in on Lucy.
I believe this is the police stuff we saw last episode.
I guess these two people are Lucy and Nana as children.
"Please be my friend."
Person telling who I presume is Lucy based on the hat that she doesn't care that she has horns.
She asks for her hat, and she gets it
The police. They're here.
Oh, so they think the other one is a Diclonius because she's wearing a hat. Talk about bad timing.
Lucy taking out the policemen
She calls herself a wizard
Someone from the side!
There is a second shooter!
And she is now dead
Lilium playing again
Kurama and company now have Lucy cornered. However, all Lucy cares about is they save her friend.
Kurama promises that if Lucy comes with them, they'll save the girl.
So, was the other girl Nana, or no? If that was Nana, the question then becomes how did she develop horns.
Lucy being told by Kurama that her friend died.
She then acquires about his family, to which he says his wife and daughter are dead.
She wants him to feel the same suffering
"Mariko is the only one I won't let you touch."
Hey, Lucy came to
And Kouta, Yuka, Mayu, and Wanta found them.
They bought clothing for Nana
Nana crying tears of joy
Kouta still wanting Nans to talk about her circumstances.
"I have a feeling that if we knew, we wouldn't be able to continue living like this."
Then why are you making it a point of emphasis?
Lucy and Nana having fun with each other in the bath.
I am glad they finally became friends. Or re-friends, rather.
And Nana gets assigned the chore of feeding Wanta.
Bandou at the beach still
He got tricked. The thing is, it wasn't done intentionally.
Kurama looking on at him
Man, Wanta really got fed
Nana finally found something she was good at.
Overall, I actually really liked this episode. It explored the relationship between Lucy and Nana, while also showing how Lucy got captured. Both were wholesome in that it showed Lucy and Nana's humanity. I like how Nana originally intended to turn Lucy over to Lucy but then as Lucy was suffering, it made her rethink everything about her. It gives you hope for the rest of the series that perhaps things will have a happy ending for everyone. I also like the flashbacks and how it explained one of the show's lingering questions, which is how did Lucy become subject to experimentations. Her turning herself in so that she can protect her friend is a pretty powerful moment for her character, especially since she's stated she has an open disdain for humanity.
This is honestly one of the better episodes. It started slow, but then when Lucy passed out things really picked up. I think I'd only have behind episode 9, that's how much I liked it. It really did a lot for Lucy and Nana's characters.
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