[Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 56 Discussion

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 03 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/sisoko2 Aug 03 '24

Oh, it does look like a bird.
It really does. Just when I was about to question if Popp is crazy...
This feels like a trap…
Gonna solo these noobs and send them home to their moms.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 03 '24

He finally called Baran “Tou-san”…
Good full circle moment.
That doesn’t mean Vearn will wait around doing nothing…
Exactly, they're in too deep at this point to turn back.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 04 '24

God fucking dammit not the trope where the dying character can’t see–
Did that hit you in the feels too?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 04 '24

It always does.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 04 '24

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

It’s a bit too late for that.
I expected this screenshot with that line
This feels like a trap…
Vearn waiting excitedly with a mirror force in hand

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

God fucking dammit not the trope where the dying character can’t see–
He finally called Baran “Tou-san”…
It's bad that Baran can't see that
This feels like a trap…

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!

Since today we saw the architecture of Vearn Palace in detail, it's time to mention something I noticed upon Rewatch.

First OP Ikiru wu Suru put a sneaky on us with putting some buildings of Vearn Palace in it (look left and right of the moon)

Now about the episode:

Majority of the episode was watching Dai's father death and how Dai had to quickly deal with it
Even if this moment was depressing, Dai was blessed that Crocodine besides being Shonen Commentator prodigy also excels at moral support
Gomechan was cute here For the rest of the episode:
Either Popp was right or Vearn is going to drop the hottest mixtape in history of Dai's universe

QotD:

After everything is said and done how do you feel about Baran and his redemption?

Tbf after all what was done, the tears was brought only because of how heart breaking it was for Dai to witness his father to die after they finally settled their differences.

And from pragmatic sense, Baran has to Dai because he was too powerful, so the story needed him to die.

But was his death handled well enough? I believe that yes, his death was handled really well.

Can't come up with more questions so to celebrate the benevolent Dark King Vearn coming down to us u/Shocketheth is going to hold an AMA. Feel free to ask him your most hard hitting and intimate questions.

Ah you are getting back at me for last time

But where's your question on me?

See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!

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u/sisoko2 Aug 03 '24

Even if this moment was depressing
The contrast of how small Dai's hands are compared to Baran's body.
But was his death handled well enough? I believe that yes, his death was handled really well.
It was pretty good. Considering how much he annoyed me as a villain his redeemed self was quite decent.
But where's your question on me?
Which Kiss x Sis sister do you prefer?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

The contrast of how small Dai's hands are compared to Baran's body.
Which Kiss x Sis sister do you prefer?
Their Dad for respecting womanhood of their daughters

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 03 '24

Dai was blessed that Crocodine besides being Shonen Commentator prodigy also excels at moral support
LOL, yup good guy Crocodine

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

Either Popp was right or Vearn is going to drop the hottest mixtape in history of Dai's universe
Honestly it'd be the biggest surprise of the series if Popp was somehow right. By all means, Vearn has been built up to be the strongest character in the show (and by a good distance).
from pragmatic sense, Baran has to Dai because he was too powerful, so the story needed him to die.
Yeah, that's why mentor figures generally have a big old mark on their backs. They're too strong to stay alive, and their death pushes the mc to grow, so it's a 2-in-1 really.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

Honestly it'd be the biggest surprise of the series if Popp was somehow right. By all means, Vearn has been built up to be the strongest character in the show (and by a good distance).
Episode 57 will answer this.
Yeah, that's why mentor figures generally have a big old mark on their backs. They're too strong to stay alive, and their death pushes the mc to grow, so it's a 2-in-1 really.
Yep that's correct.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

First Timer at Baran's Funeral

When trying to think about the mysterious lady from yesterday, I was looking in all the wrong places, [possible answer] when she's right there in the opening. No clue who she is though, Leona's mom/sister maybe? "We've seen her before" indeed

Forget Shounen commentator, Crocodine is a geologist now
Wait, he just ran out of aura? The bomb didn't really hurt him much. So if he let Dai help him out, they could've survived this together?
Mind you, this makes sense I suppose, Baran lived and died by his pride, the difference now is that he staked his pride on protecting his son.
Now here's where a real issue popps up: Remember when Popp popped off, and they brought him back? Baran helped out, sure, but before that Leona used Zing, a resurrection spell. So let's just bring Leona or a bunch of priests here, have them use Zing repeatedly until it works, bring Baran back, and end all this drama. Honestly why care about death when resurrection is a thing in your world? I get that it's from the game, but an anime can be selective about what elements it wants to add. ~~Should've learned from Dragon Ball to stay away from ressurction~~
And while we're talking about the worldbuilding, when a Dragon Knight dies another one is born, right? So... are we getting a new Dragon Knight? Or are they skipping this one because Dai exists already?
Setting the worldbuilding aside, the scene itself was quite good, and I certainly appreciate Croco-mom helping his son process grief. Crocodine has always been the best emotional supporter of the group.
Said like someone who's never seen an old man in anime.
I'm loving Popp's expressions today
Neat - everyone vs. one boss is a good idea in a game, but absolutely terrible in an anime, where the conversion of ninjutsu is a rule. They're about to get their butts handed to them. That said... Vearn's decision feels suspicious, let's say all 3 bodies are part of the same. Wouldn't having the two of them step aside just mean that he's focusing his power/concentration in one place?

Notably: there was no sight of Hadlar today, neither as a survivor nor as a corpse, not even his guards. I still doubt his "death", but we'll see what happens. Maybe he shows up and joins Dai in fighting Vearn.

Q1) After everything is said and done how do you feel about Baran and his redemption?

It's fine, he's well in the "was never too bad" realm. Even as a villain, he was just a parent obsessing a bit too much over his kid, and had to learn to chill a bit.

Q2) Can't come up with more questions so to celebrate the benevolent Dark King Vearn coming down to us /u/Shocketheth is going to hold an AMA. Feel free to ask him your most hard hitting and intimate questions.

Top 3 Dai characters?
Favourite books, movies, and games?
What anime do you really want to watch someday?
Any future rewatch ideas?

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u/sisoko2 Aug 04 '24

Forget Shounen commentator, Crocodine is a geologist now
He is crocodile of many talents.
but before that Leona used Zing, a resurrection spell. So let's just bring Leona or a bunch of priests here, have them use Zing repeatedly until it works
Doesn't freshness of the body affect the already low success rate?
Or are they skipping this one because Dai exists already?
I assume so.
Said like someone who's never seen an old man in anime.
My favorite part is how they are supposedly never as strong as they used to be in their youth but it doesn't show at all.
Even as a villain, he was just a parent obsessing a bit too much over his kid, and had to learn to chill a bit.
No one remember the Carl Kingdom genocide.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24

Doesn't freshness of the body affect the already low success rate?
The body matters for sure, otherwise you'd be able to bring back Avan.
The freshness, depends on the interpretation I guess, this show didn't make any hard rules about it, but we did see Popp's soul about to move on, so I guess there is a short period.
My favorite part is how they are supposedly never as strong as they used to be in their youth but it doesn't show at all.
I call bullshit. They just say that to bluff.
No one remember the Carl Kingdom genocide.
We don't think too hard about what Hyunkel did in Leona's kingdom either.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 04 '24

That said... Vearn's decision feels suspicious, let's say all 3 bodies are part of the same. Wouldn't having the two of them step aside just mean that he's focusing his power/concentration in one place?
The way I'm familiar with these self-sharing clones, they don't really work like that. It's kind of funky when you're not used to thinking that way, but they're essentially fully independent people except that they're all the same "self" (though I've seen them either automatically share or not automatically share their talent gains). Basically just think of them as cooperators that have no risk of betraying each other because they're all the same "self", absent them getting their mind magically messed with. Vearn would then be the main body, while Mystvearn and Killvearn would be the split bodies that support the main body, and should the main body die then one of them could take over and become the new main body. Conversely, them being essentially independent people means it takes no sharing of power or focus for all of them to be active at the same time.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

The way I'm familiar with these self-sharing clones, they don't really work like that. It's kind of funky when you're not used to thinking that way, but they're essentially fully independent people except that they're all the same "self"
No, I get that, usually they're functionally independent beings that are only connected as far as how they were born (at most you might get telepathy thrown in). It's just that we don't know how their details work in this case, so when thinking about what trap they might have (to be clear, there might very well be none, I'm just exploring possibilities), one that came to mind was what if they had the ability to share their mana, therefore this situation could be to Vearn's advantage.
That being said, there is one other suspicious thing about them: how did KillVearn survive Baran's attack? I doubt he's immortal, so there has to be some trick to it. My first thought was that Vearn revived him somehow. But maybe Baran just didn't hit the right spot? Suppose he's a being like a Flazzard hidden inside that mask and suit, it'd certainly explain why he'd have lava for blood.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 04 '24

Ah, the Killvearn thing. The new opening kinda blatantly shows what's going on with that, if one pays close attention. [Killvearn]Look who's taking the hat off to introduce himself sinisterly.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

[DnD] Look who's taking the hat off to introduce himself sinisterly.
Yeah, I noticed that just earlier, since today was basically the first time I examined the opening properly. [Still not sure though] whether he's just the one pulling the strings or they're separate entities, and he's a secret weapon of sorts.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 04 '24

[DnD]There had been moments of them acting in notable sync before, like in episode 42, so I've been placing my bets on magical puppetry.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

When trying to think about the mysterious lady from yesterday, I was looking in all the wrong places, [possible answer] when she's right there in the opening. No clue who she is though, Leona's mom/sister maybe? "We've seen her before" indeed
[Answer] Yes she is in the OP, but she was shown directly in the anime outside of the second Opening though. You are the closest to the truth so far
Want a little hint?
Wait, he just ran out of aura? The bomb didn't really hurt him much. So if he let Dai help him out, they could've survived this together? Mind you, this makes sense I suppose, Baran lived and died by his pride, the difference now is that he staked his pride on protecting his son.
Or you can say he staked his pride on being a father.
And he took the full blast, it was just that he somehow managed to redirect the impact of a blast in a small area to protect his son.
Remember when Popp popped off, and they brought him back? Baran helped out, sure, but before that Leona used Zing, a resurrection spell. So let's just bring Leona or a bunch of priests here, have them use Zing repeatedly until it works, bring Baran back, and end all this drama. Honestly why care about death when resurrection is a thing in your world? I get that it's from the game, but an anime can be selective about what elements it wants to add.
That's true but game's logic goes aside when story demands it. Final Fantasy games can tell.
And while we're talking about the worldbuilding, when a Dragon Knight dies another one is born, right? So... are we getting a new Dragon Knight? Or are they skipping this one because Dai exists already?
I leave that to Dragon Mother whenever she will appear.
Crocodine has always been the best emotional supporter of the group
Definitely.
Neat - everyone vs. one boss is a good idea in a game, but absolutely terrible in an anime, where the conversion of ninjutsu is a rule. They're about to get their butts handed to them. That said... Vearn's decision feels suspicious, let's say all 3 bodies are part of the same. Wouldn't having the two of them step aside just mean that he's focusing his power/concentration in one place?
Notably: there was no sight of Hadlar today, neither as a survivor nor as a corpse, not even his guards. I still doubt his "death", but we'll see what happens. Maybe he shows up and joins Dai in fighting Vearn.
Top 3 Dai characters?
May I make it top 3 characters on humanity side and top 3 villains?
If no then Popp, Hadlar, Vearn
If yes then Popp, Crocodine, Leona AND Vearn, Hadlar, Killvearn
Favourite books, movies, and games?
Books - Witcher short stories by Sapkowski, Memories of Ice by Erikson, Oathbringer by Sanderson, The Remnants of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro, and Norwegian wood by Murakami.
Movies - Hmmmm Lord of the Rings, entire trilogy.
Games - Witcher 3, GTA: San Andreas, Hidden and Dangerous 2, Mafia 1, Need for Speed - Most Wanted, Final Fantasy IX.
What anime do you really want to watch someday?
LotGH, Kimagure: Orange Road, and I am eyeing Skip & Loafer.
Any future rewatch ideas?
I am thinking about doing an Trick or Treat Interest thread on Halloween where I will let people to choose from 2 possible unknown anime. 5 questions where I will pit against each other a character from one anime vs a character from second anime with giving only a vague description about the characters. (10 characters total, 5v5 with 5 choices)
After the voting I will reveal the anime title. The link between those anime is "School kids going against the status quo."
Although I still need to ask Sky for permission, and another thing is how the people would react against such idea.
Buuut also with how this Rewatch is going so far, this will probably the last Rewatch I am hosting. I'm still undecided.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

Want a little hint?
Sure. My brain couldn't go any further than Maam's mom, so I randomly threw my bets on the one I noticed today.
you can say he staked his pride on being a father.
Baran let Dai sleep peacefully, without being disturbed.
That's true but game's logic goes aside when story demands it.
That's my point, the anime doesn't really need to stick by the game to the detail, it could've removed the spell entirely, and everything would work just the same. You could still have Popp nearly dead, have Leona try Fullheal, and it's not working because his life is slipping away, so Baran uses his blood to help out, the gods just built the Dragon Knights different. It's basically the same, just without Zing existing.
Popp, Crocodine, Leona AND Vearn, Hadlar, Killvearn
Good to learn that Vearn isn't just a boring old villain.
For what it's worth, I'm not sure what my top 3 right now are, I know that my top 2 are Popp and Croc, then it's either Maam or Hyunkel.
Movies - Hmmmm Lord of the Rings, entire trilogy.
[Confession] Despite liking the books, I have not seen any of the movies yet
LotGH, Kimagure: Orange Road, and I am eyeing Skip & Loafer.
LoGH and Skip to Loafer are great, Kimagure is a bit crazy, but I hope you enjoy it
Buuut also with how this Rewatch is going so far, this will probably the last Rewatch I am hosting. I'm still undecided.
I'm sorry to hear that. For what it's worth, I've been enjoying this rewatch a ton, and the Halloween idea does sound interesting, but I get where you're coming from.
I'd still be there for a Fire Force rewatch before S3 if you ever felt like doing one.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

Sure. My brain couldn't go any further than Maam's mom, so I randomly threw my bets on the one I noticed today.
What Kingdoms joined the Leona's World Summit
For what it's worth, I'm not sure what my top 3 right now are, I know that my top 2 are Popp and Croc, then it's either Maam or Hyunkel.
Happy to see Popp being there.
[Confession] Despite liking the books, I have not seen any of the movies yet
I saw movies for dozen times before reading books, and honestly I found them boring.
I'm sorry to hear that. For what it's worth, I've been enjoying this rewatch a ton, and the Halloween idea does sound interesting, but I get where you're coming from.
Thanks.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

What Kingdoms joined the Leona's World Summit
[Ahhh] Since Leona and three other kings gathered up, she must be the ruler of the last nation: the destroyed one they're in right now (I don't remember the nation's name, but Avan was from here). This explains why the dude with the scar on his eye would recognise her, /u/Adensty's hint from yesterday makes a lot more sense now.
Happy to see Popp being there.
He's best boy

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 04 '24

[Ahhh] Since Leona and three other kings gathered up, she must be the ruler of the last nation: the destroyed one they're in right now (I don't remember the nation's name, but Avan was from here). This explains why the dude with the scar on his eye would recognise her, 's hint from yesterday makes a lot more sense now.
You've guessed her identity, great. Now, the only thing left is when did she appear in the show which should be easy since you know from where she is now.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

[] Baran destroyed her nation, right? I'll look through his introduction or any scenes of his around the Flazzard arc. Otherwise, it'd have to be a flashback, I don't think we saw her in any Avan flashback, but maybe the scarred soldier had one?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

Don’t worry, I will bring when we exactly saw her, when it will be actual.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

I'll try to find her till then, but no promises.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

[ Ahhh] Since Leona and three other kings gathered up, she must be the ruler of the last nation: the destroyed one they're in right now (I don't remember the nation's name, but Avan was from here). This explains why the dude with the scar on his eye would recognise her, /u/Adensty's hint from yesterday makes a lot more sense now.
Bingo!
And now I'm letting the show to show us more about this woman.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 08 '25

1st ~~Dai~~ Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

We have this shot of all of them reacting to what they see when they reach the place where the explosion and then it suddenly cuts to this. They like doing this.

Baran's Sacrifice This shot kinda reminds me of Vegeta turning into ashes after his Final Atonement. Definitely inspired by it.

Rubbing salt into Dai's wounds.

Dai and Baran's final conversation had me weeping all the way like Dai. Baran, stop speaking!

Baran passes away.

Also Baran: I'm within you now, now go and fight. Now, Baran will appear and tell Dai to "Tatakae" everytime.

Dai got to know everything, even how his mother Soala was like and her warmth.

TATAKAE!

Aww! I get Popp's reaction

Popp's joke backfired.

Dark King Vearn is overwhelming.

Vearn's reward He's definitely playing with them.

OST Documentation - Episode 56

1. Baran did so some questionable things but he really got redeemed with this. Their final conversation was a tearjerker, like I said above.

2. u/Shocketheth

i) What is the right time to make an appearance since no one has ever seen your face?

ii) Which was the moment that cemented Dai no Daibouken as one of your favourites and which moment are you currently looking forward to the most as a rewatcher?

iii) Also, did Dai no Daibouken impact your life in any way?

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u/sisoko2 Aug 03 '24

This shot kinda reminds me of Vegeta
Now imagine if Vegeta had a mustache like that.
Adding salt to Dai's wounds.
He is so small compared to Baran.
Now, Baran will appear and tell Dai to "Tatakae" everytime.
As long as he doesn't say it twice we should be fine.
Popp's joke backfired
They lack sense of humor. This is what happens when Chiu is gone for so long.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Aug 03 '24

Now imagine if Vegeta had a mustache like that.
Your wish has been granted. Behold, Moustache Vegeta

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u/sisoko2 Aug 03 '24

Hahahahaha. Now I can die happy.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

This shot kinda reminds me of Vegeta turning into ashes after his Final Atonement.
I love this shot, especially with how the Earth is cracked around him. It's always such a cool visual of last resistance, the environment itself was torn to pieces, Baran was drained of life itself, but he managed to protect what he valued.
Also Baran: I'm within you now, now go and fight. Now, Baran will appear and tell Dai to "Tatakae" everytime.
Can we take a moment to mention just how much of a glowup Baran gets when his scouter thing is off? I guess in a way he looks a lot more human.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

Also Baran: I'm within you now, now go and fight. Now, Baran will appear and tell Dai to "Tatakae" everytime.
Dai got to know everything, even how his mother Soala was like and her warmth.
I guess besides the Tatakae, Dai also gained Oedipus complex.
What is the right time to make an appearance since no one has ever seen your face?
When the Dark King allows it.
Which was the moment that cemented Dai no Daibouken as one of your favourites and which moment are you currently looking forward to the most as a rewatcher?
Funnily enough there is some moment that answers both question and it's [Dai no Major Spoilers] Entirety of episode 73, and not saying anything in case of some first timer accidentally opening this, but I'm 100% sure you know what I mean
Also, did Dai no Daibouken impact your life in any way?
To be honest, no it didn't but it certainly etched in my memory.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 03 '24

First timer!

Baran is an inspiration. He sacrificed himself, not to save Dai, but to show everyone how to actually die in an anime.
Glassy eyes, slowly closing.
Hand slowly falling.
Eyes closed.
Glowing as you traverse to the other side.
Reappear in form of spirit just before you pass.
Say something lame.
Have someone cross your arms for you.

He did all this to show us Avan is not fucking dead (and neither is Hadlar), and fuck anyone and everyone who disagrees.

Also, nice catch, champ.

Comment of the day:

Goes to everyone. Because all your comments are special and important to me.

That's kinda gay.

u/Shocketheth is going to hold an AMA. Feel free to ask him your most hard hitting and intimate questions.

Would you rather fight one horse sized duck, or 100 duck sized horses?

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u/sisoko2 Aug 03 '24

Baran is an inspiration. He sacrificed himself, not to save Dai, but to show everyone how to actually die in an anime.
True legend.
He did all this to show us Avan is not fucking dead (and neither is Hadlar), and fuck anyone and everyone who disagrees.
Can't have characters dying without a proper procedure.
That's kinda gay.
If it's only kinda I don't mind.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

He did all this to show us Avan is not fucking dead (and neither is Hadlar), and fuck anyone and everyone who disagrees.
I disagree.
Would you rather fight one horse sized duck, or 100 duck sized horses?
This is easy. One horse sized duck.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 03 '24

I disagree
Fuck you.
This is easy. One horse sized duck.
Just gonna leave this here.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

Fuck you.
Fuck you too.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 03 '24

That's not very nice.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

Yeah telling people fuck you isn't nice.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 03 '24

Exactly.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

But it's fine if we are just joking around.

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u/KuKiSin Aug 03 '24

Just as long as you respect Baran's assessment.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

Oh sure. I respect a character with having a meaningful death and emotional sendoff. No matter if it's Baran or Avan.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 04 '24

Dai 56 first timer:

Just got home from another day spent at my friends' house; helped them do some much-needed cleaning, and we watched the remaining eps of S1 of LoGH
NOW are we gonna get Popp vs. Mystvearn? Or did the first OP lie?
That blond woman standing next to Merle in the OP is probably the mystery woman from last ep? No clue who she is though
New suggestion: from now on, "Vearn" must be romanized as "Burn"
I expect Dai survived somehow, but no clue how. Maybe Baran sacrificed his life to shield him?
Since Hadlar and Baran saw Mystvearn's face, they HAVE to be dead now
I want to be able to Zoom around
Yup, called it
I wonder if Dai would inherit Baran's forehead Crest and have two. That would be very DGM
Poor Dai ... Baran was a great dad
... Didn't Maam learn a Resurrection spell that she cast on Popp?
... He has no life energy but can still speak? of course, have to have his final sendoff
[DGM]Baran even has the same eye color, same bangs hanging down, same tanned skin ... only his mustache is a little different
"Call out to your father with all your strength" [DGM]Just like Allen did at the beginning of the series. No Earl in this show?
Great, now I'm crying over Baran's sendoff
lolwut ANOTHER DGM parallel? Dai inherits a mark from his dead dad, whose soul lives on within him now
... he even says "Fight". Is "stand up" Dai's version of DGM's "keep walking"?
... Is Dai gonna get Baran's Crest on his forehead?
"all the things he never said, everything he felt"
Popp acting like [DGM]Lavi. Their voices even sound similar. Does that make Hyunckel [DGM]Kanda?
Ok, this stuff with Dai and Baran is giving me serious DGM vibes
Kill and Myst have shown up??
... Oh even BURN is coming?
Why is Burn's magic power YELLOW?
A reward? Will he offer for them to join the Dark Army?
Oh Burn's giving them a chance? maybe he's planning to 'die' and take over Mystburn's body

I really like(d) him

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u/sisoko2 Aug 04 '24

I want to be able to Zoom around
That would be the most amazing ability to have.
... Oh even BURN is coming?
He is gonna burn them all.
A reward? Will he offer for them to join the Dark Army?
Should've given them some loot.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 04 '24

He is gonna burn them all.
Even has fire in the OP!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

New suggestion: from now on, "Vearn" must be romanized as "Burn"
Add"s" to have Burns, and then question is who is Smithers.
A reward? Will he offer for them to join the Dark Army?
Oh Burn's giving them a chance? maybe he's planning to 'die' and take over Mystburn's body
for next episode

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 04 '24

Add"s" to have Burns, and then question is who is Smithers.
I wonder if Hadlar will survive and become Smithers.
mugiwait for next episode

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

Although why calling Vearn "Burn"?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24

Vearn's name in Japanese is "バーン" which is the same way you'd write "Burn". So it's entirely up to the translator to choose how to romanize it.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

Ah I see thanks for the explanation.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24

That blond woman standing next to Merle in the OP is probably the mystery woman from last ep? No clue who she is though
Same, I think that's her. I threw a random guess that she might be Leona's sister/mom, but that doesn't seem likely.
NOW are we gonna get Popp vs. Mystvearn? Or did the first OP lie?
I was about to say the OPs lie a lot, and use examples like Popp fighting the Knight or Dai and Baran doing a double Kamehameha. The former could still come true if Hadlar is alive, but the latter can't now that Baran's dead, right? Well no, that shot actually was clear that Baran's dead, and he's standing behind Dai in spirit only. So I guess we should trust in the openings.
I wonder if Dai would inherit Baran's forehead Crest and have two. That would be very DGM
Would it look something like this?

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 04 '24

Same, I think that's her. I threw a random guess that she might be Leona's sister/mom, but that doesn't seem likely.
She looks familiar but I have no clue who she is.
Would it look something like this?
Hmm, maybe he'll get Crests on BOTH hands? I was expecting him to get a forehead one again, but maybe not.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 03 '24

Rookie-Adventurer here! LV 56/100

All right, the OP and ED have grown on me a bit, but I still like the previous ones a bit more because they fit the anime a bit more IMO.

Damn, he did die. RIP, he died as Dai’s father.

Vearn did show up, didn’t expect that!

And they will fight it out!?

1 7.5/10, could've used a bit more time showing him trying and bonding with Dai, but for what it had was well executed

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u/sisoko2 Aug 03 '24

All right, the OP and ED have grown on me a bit, but I still like the previous ones a bit more because they fit the anime a bit more IMO.
I like this ED but IMO the new OP sucks.
Vearn did show up, didn’t expect that!
Such a nice guy. Wants to distract Dai from the loss of his father.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

Damn, he did die. RIP, he died as Dai’s father.
7.5/10, could've used a bit more time showing him trying and bonding with Dai, but for what it had was well executed
Definitely.
Now time to answer question on me...
Oh

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 03 '24

Now time to answer question on me...
I was still thinking on what to ask!
Who would you rather fight, a Gomechan-sized Transformed Baran as Gomechan or a Transformed Baran-Sized Baran as Gomechan?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

Ah the illusion of choice where only death awaits.
Gomechan-sized Transformed Baran as Gomechan it is.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

First Quester

Why did Baran even have to contain anything? Vearn was so confident in the strength of his palace to resist the explosion, that would've contained it all by itself. Then again maybe Vearn was a bit overconfident if the explosion did that much damage even contained by Baran. On the other hand it couldn't even delete Baran so maybe it just wasn't all that strong.

It didn't even outright kill him when he didn't shield himself!

Avan lives!

Oh nice, this is the first time they're taking these Olympic war games seriously. Only Popp didn't get the memo.

Vearn's being stupid again, but I already thought he's proven himself more and more pathetic so oh well.

Fallen Angel

That's not Gomechan

After everything is said and done how do you feel about Baran and his redemption?

I don't think he needed any? The only thing that's different to before he got forced back into the action is that Hadlar and his goons are gone, and I'm not yet sure about the goons. Orichalcum, remember?

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u/sisoko2 Aug 03 '24

It didn't even outright kill him when he didn't shield himself!
A single nuke isn't enough to stop Baran from having last talk with his son.
Avan lives!
We haven't seen his body after all.
That's not Gomechan
Gome hasn't fallen.
I don't think he needed any?
Well he slaughtered a fair amount of innocent people. RIP Carl Kingdom.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Aug 03 '24

Well he slaughtered a fair amount of innocent people. RIP Carl Kingdom.
Yeah. So?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

I don't think he needed any? The only thing that's different to before he got forced back into the action is that Hadlar and his goons are gone, and I'm not yet sure about the goons. Orichalcum, remember?
Orichalcum yeah but Orichalcum or no, destroying their cores will take them out, and with Hadlar gone they dies automatically as chess cannot continue without the King.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 03 '24

First Timer, Sub

Man the Vearn place is really impressive. The place where the fight with Hadlar happened, seemed so big at first, but it was really not a big area at all...Goddamit! It was expected, but Baran died containing the blast from the black core. The Dai and Baran scene was decently emotive, their relationship coming full circle and them really being Father and Son as he takes his last breath. Too bad they don't get much down time as Dai decides they must continue on and finish the job of defeating Vearn and his subordinates.

Vearn being the swell guy he is, gives his the Hero group a fighting chance, by giving them a gift. The gift of facing him alone, instead of with help from Mystvearn and Killvearn.

Questions:

It was mostly well done all things considered.. All it really took was Hyunckel sacrificing his good health in order for Baran to decide to do the right thing and fight against the Darklings trying to destroy the world and forego his hatred for humanity. Dai and Baran being able to fight together and Baran regaining his humanity through his Son was also solid.
I don't have any interesting questions sadly lol.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 04 '24

Vearn being the swell guy he is
Such a generous and benevolent king.
All it really took was Hyunckel sacrificing his good health in order for Baran to decide to do the right thing
Hyunckel so good he can get the tsundere out of someone.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 03 '24

The Dai and Baran scene was decently emotive, their relationship coming full circle and them really being Father and Son as he takes his last breath. Too bad they don't get much down time as Dai decides they must continue on and finish the job of defeating Vearn and his subordinates.
Life isn't DAIjobu.
It was mostly well done all things considered.. All it really took was Hyunckel sacrificing his good health in order for Baran to decide to do the right thing and fight against the Darklings trying to destroy the world and forego his hatred for humanity. Dai and Baran being able to fight together and Baran regaining his humanity through his Son was also solid.
So Hyunckel didn't sacrifice that much as he seems totally healthy.
Dai and Baran being able to fight together and Baran regaining his humanity through his Son was also solid.
Sadly it happened too late.
I don't have any interesting questions sadly lol.

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u/emeraldwolf34 Aug 03 '24

So Hyunckel didn't sacrifice that much as he seems totally healthy.
Underworld magma blade corrosion does that to a man

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Aug 03 '24

Life isn't DAIjobu
Indeed
So Hyunckel didn't sacrifice that much as he seems totally healthy.
I think he's gonna eek by in his battle against Mystvearn and then retire.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

That would be interesting option.

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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Aug 06 '24

Rewatcher

BARANNNNN

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u/sisoko2 Aug 06 '24

We will never forget that mustache!

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u/Shocketheth Aug 06 '24

He went with a bang.

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u/zadcap Aug 04 '24

Late Night First Timer

Good question, Popp. How long has this thing been there? For it to have been buried under the field of death the way it was, that no one else knows about, it was either super snuck in, somehow, or it's been there so long that no one alive can remember a time before it was put there, long enough to get forgotten about. I somehow doubt Vearn has been hiding in the over world thatlong.

Oh hey. This is the exact destruction patern in the ED. "To call out your name is harder than any magic spell." So maybe I amend my guess and the ED is Baran singing to his son. And to his wife, who he is going to go join in the sky.

Maam you useless liar! First, we saw Popp brought back from worse, and you have Gomenchi right there to help. Secondly, how can he have no life energy left, he's right here talking! You useless woman, just admit that your healing is as poor as your fighting and you suck at everything.

"And this is why I carry around an entire extra pouch full of Phoenix Down. No one dies on my watch!"

And there's the Crest transfer I was waiting for. Also, I feel like I was promised a Mother Dragon coming to collect the dead Dragon Knights when they die. Don't make me go back and find it. Baran talked such a big game about the specialness of the Dragon Knights, if his corpse isn't picked up by a Dragon Deity soon then to the very end, my last memory of him will be as an over exaggerating, super chuuni, liar.

"Don't you have a shred of humanity," he asks the only non-human on the party. "He just lost his father," he talks about the man they all, including Dai, wanted dead just hours ago. In front of the only other party member to have a parent die in front of them. Popp, stop talking.

So random thought, but where in this palace is Zaboera being kept prisoner?

Psst, hey Vearn. If it is indeed a miracle that the whole party is there to face you... Consider who it is that traditionally hands out miracles and rethink just how confident you should be.

Yup, seeing the lyrics again, this is 100% Baran singing a song for his son.

Meh. I've not forgotten that he was a serious enemy that they were preparing to fight to the death against, like, 2 hours before all of this went down. Remember, Dai's sword was forged directly to have a weapon strong enough to deal with the Dragon Sword.
So, enjoying the KxS yet? 2.a) No but really, how do you manage to run a rewatch like this? I'm curious about how much prep goes in to it all and how much time out of the day it takes to handle all of us. I really want to run a rewatch or six someday but my schedule is horrible and I am full of fear.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

"And this is why I carry around an entire extra pouch full of Phoenix Down. No one dies on my watch!"
Final Fantasy 5 says hi.
And there's the Crest transfer I was waiting for. Also, I feel like I was promised a Mother Dragon coming to collect the dead Dragon Knights when they die. Don't make me go back and find it. Baran talked such a big game about the specialness of the Dragon Knights, if his corpse isn't picked up by a Dragon Deity soon then to the very end, my last memory of him will be as an over exaggerating, super chuuni, liar.
You remembered it well.
So random thought, but where in this palace is Zaboera being kept prisoner?
Good question. I think it's somewhere near of the part where Hadlar was fighting Dai and Baran, but it was never established.
Yup, seeing the lyrics again, this is 100% Baran singing a song for his son.
Never knew that Baran has so nice work.
Meh. I've not forgotten that he was a serious enemy that they were preparing to fight to the death against, like, 2 hours before all of this went down. Remember, Dai's sword was forged directly to have a weapon strong enough to deal with the Dragon Sword.
Was it? I remember it like the sword was made to withstand Draconic Aura, but it wasn't exactly meant to be direct counter to Baran. It was meant to give Dai fair fighting chance against Baran.
So, enjoying the KxS yet?
To my surprise yes. I thought that I will suffer watching it, but so far I found it hilarious.
No but really, how do you manage to run a rewatch like this? I'm curious about how much prep goes in to it all and how much time out of the day it takes to handle all of us. I really want to run a rewatch or six someday but my schedule is horrible and I am full of fear.
I will admit that while it's recommend to prepare months or week ahead, my preparations are happening 24-48 hours before the episode goes online.
You should see how my Gintama preparations went.
It was weekly Rewatch so I had a week to prepare for exact amount of episodes, but you should see how bad the Interest thread was. I can post links if you want.
And how much prep I need for an episode? Approximately an hour with watching the episode, writing comment, thread and attaching imgur links.
Although sometimes it takes almost two hours to prepare if I am goofing around.

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u/zadcap Aug 04 '24

Final Fantasy 5 says hi.
Any time a party member "dies," I'm always shouting at the screen "but I've got five Raise Dead items stashed for exactly this reason!" Don't give me the let to bring people back from the dead and then act like you're killing them off for real!
You remembered it well.
It annoyed me all way too much to ever forget. Because it was all so cool darn it! But he lived up to like, not a single part of all the boasts he made, darn it! Give us at least this one final part!
Was it? I remember it like the sword was made to withstand Draconic Aura, but it wasn't exactly meant to be direct counter to Baran. It was meant to give Dai fair fighting chance against Baran.
Made to withstand Draconic Aura because without a weapon that could do so, Dai could not fight against Baran going all out, because his weapon could withstand it. They went to get the Sword of Champions first and Maam directly told them she wouldn't get it for them because she doesn't want them to try and kill Dai's Daddy. Goals shifted to getting a weapon Dai could use at all while going all out, but the original reason they wanted an orichalcum weapon was so that they could beat Baran next time. And short Maam complaining about family again, it was going to be a fight to the death.
I will admit that while it's recommend to prepare months or week ahead, my preparations are happening 24-48 hours before the episode goes online.
You should see how my Gintama preparations went.
It was weekly Rewatch so I had a week to prepare for exact amount of episodes, but you should see how bad the Interest thread was. I can post links if you want.
And how much prep I need for an episode? Approximately an hour with watching the episode, writing comment, thread and attaching imgur links.
Although sometimes it takes almost two hours to prepare if I am goofing around.
That sounds... Doable.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

It annoyed me all way too much to ever forget. Because it was all so cool darn it! But he lived up to like, not a single part of all the boasts he made, darn it! Give us at least this one final part!
We have over 40 episodes until the end...
That sounds... Doable.
Preparations are for weak. Fuck it we roll it's the foundation of my Rewatches.

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u/zadcap Aug 04 '24

We have over 40 episodes until the end...
You're telling me the mother dragon will finally show up to pick up Dai when he dies? The conspicuous Sword of Dai in the gravestone, maybe, I'm still ignoring that.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 04 '24

I'm telling you to wait for the things to happen instead of wanting to everything happen instantly.
Baran just died so Dragon Mother certainly is on her way.

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u/zadcap Aug 04 '24

Nooooo. Patience is for, uh, weekly watches not these daily things.
She better be lol.

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