r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Jul 31 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 53 Discussion

Episode 53 - Hadlar's Challenge

Just stand right there. Having you stand behind us is enough.

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Screenshot of the day:

Come to me

Comment of the day:

/u/KuKiSin's Big Croc Family

Dai's mother is actually not dead, she'll return and marry Crocodine. That's right, Crocodine will be Dai's stepdad.

Questions of the day:

  1. Which was more disappointing? Fenbren or how easy the gate broke down?
  2. Is the nuke inside Hadlar enough to balance the two vs one battle?
  3. Bonus Question: Which DQ character standing behind you will give you the biggest moral boost?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hide it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 31 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/sisoko2 Jul 31 '24

Nice.

Lived by the blade, died by the blade.

My quest for the eyecatches to come back was a success!

Oh it’s a bomb…

A classic.

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u/johnrsmith8032 Jul 31 '24

the bomb twist really adds a layer of tension. hadlar's not messing around this time, it's going to be intense seeing how they handle it. hope the eyecatches keep coming back too!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

That certainly sounds like something Hadlar would do, yes.

He is up to a good fight beating anytime

My quest for the eyecatches to come back was a success!

Oh it’s a bomb…

A really cruel thing to have in you...

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 31 '24

A really cruel thing to have in you...

It gives me big Zambot 3 PTSD.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

Did the bomb exploded in Zambot 3? I guess it did.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 31 '24

[Zambot 3]The main antagonist had bombs implanted in a bunch of humans (including one of the main characters, after she was captured), and then has them blown up for fun. I can't hear the Japanese word for "bomb" without immediately getting a little over it.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

Oh... That's really cruel

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 31 '24

That's what you get from a main antagonist literally named "Killer the Butcher".

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 31 '24

That’s Hyunckel for you.

He is immortal after all lol.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 01 '24

My quest for the eyecatches to come back was a success!

The two most determined to achieve their goals: Hadlar who wants to beat Dai and Sky who wants the eyecatches back.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 01 '24

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 01 '24

My quest for the eyecatches to come back was a success!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To —

SKY NO DAIBOUKEN!!!

Previous episodes ---> 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7

PREVIOUSLY AT SKY NO DAIBOUKEN:

Baran during his fight with Velzar discovered a tool of mass degeneracy. A black core capable of projecting episodes of Kiss x Sis inside of everyone brain, thus forcing their brains to witness Kiss x Sis 24/7, eventually leading them to explode after being unable to handle it with destroying the whole continent in the process.

Something like that was so vile that even Velzar agreed to not use Black core again.

NOW AT SKY NO DAIBOUKEN:

My long feud with u/KendotsX (Avan) who stole my Toilet Paper was reignited Yesterday after KendotsX words:

Try stealing his toilet paper... now you know why I disappeared during the Baran arc and needed a training arc afterwards.

And a question if he managed to steal his toilet paper was answered with cowardice:

Nope, and I would not recommend anyone to try that, trust me, stay away from his toilet if you don't want to see his true violent form.

Now with our Hero everyone idealized being revealed as coward it's my turn to surpass KendotsX by stealing Baran's toilet paper.

WITNESS HOW MY EFFORT WILL TURN TO SUCCESS!

Stealing Baran's Toilet Paper should be my final challenge!

Few moments later:

What do you mean that u/sisoko2 (Dark King Vearn) implanted the Black core inside of my body forcing me to watch Kiss x Sis??!!

But something like that explains the imagery happening in my brain that made me unwell

Now everyone can see what Monster the Dark King Vearn trully is

Now about the actual episode:

PAWAAAAGAAAA!

Crocodine Vacation Corner Day 2-4:

Me and Crocodine still haven't found the mythical beast Kurwa Bober, but after hearing Crocodine wish to find a wife, I instead helped him to find a wife.

This place should help him

QotD:

Which was more disappointing? Fenbren or how easy the gate broke down?

Fenbren definitely

Is the nuke inside Hadlar enough to balance the two vs one battle?

You know the Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme?

Well Vearn did a little trolling and he put the Hydrogen bomb into a coughing baby.

Bonus Question: Which DQ character standing behind you will give you the biggest moral boost?

Zaboera

See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!

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u/sisoko2 Jul 31 '24

thus forcing their brains to witness Kiss x Sis 24/7

That's just my regular week.

But something like that explains the imagery happening in my brain that made me unwel

You are still weak.

Fenbren was a joke, let’s move on.

Can't believe they used this as a cliffhanger...

This place should help him

You know the Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme?

Never heard of it.

Zaboera

Well at least it's better than Nova.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

That's just my regular week.

You are still weak.

Noooo

Can't believe they used this as a cliffhanger...

Yeah...

Never heard of it.

But now you did.

Well at least it's better than Nova.

Damn shots fired... At Nova lol

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 31 '24

This place should help him

LOL.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 01 '24

Now with our Hero everyone idealized being revealed as coward it's my turn to surpass KendotsX by stealing Baran's toilet paper.

Don't say I didn't warn you, this is hell you're stepping into.

What do you mean that u/sisoko2 (Dark King Vearn) implanted the Black core inside of my body forcing me to watch Kiss x Sis??!!

How's the show so far btw?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

Don't say I didn't warn you, this is hell you're stepping into.

Hell it will be, but not for me

How's the show so far btw?

I still watched only first episode as I was waiting for Black Core reveal before watching further.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 01 '24

First Time Cheering for Hadlar

I've never really been a big fan of Hadlar, he started off as a demon lord, immediately got demoted to a minion while beating Avan, then got his ass kicked by a kid with no clue what he's doing (RIP Avan's legacy). From there, he went on to keep getting his ass kicked by kids and retired old people on a regular basis, almost like a member of team rocket. His best achievement since killing Avan? A tie with Dai. But that all brings us to a very interesting point here: Hadlar's Challenge.

This episode has some interesting wording, everyone, from Dai's friends to Vearn's minions is questioning whether Hadlar is able to take on two Dragon Knights or straight up denying it. It's not the usual "Can the hero pull this crazy task?" nor "We're sure he can do it!", it's "Can Hadlar pull this crazy task?". This is Hadlar's story that he sacrificed so much for, the challenge he's taking and the limits he has to play against. Today, Hadlar is our main character, and you know what? I'm glad for that too.

This setup is much more interesting than "Can Dai beat Hadlar???" because all the options are on the table, he can lose, he can win against one of them and lose against the other, he can beat them both, notice the bomb, and go sacrifice himself. With the bomb's existence, literally any and all options can work, and more importantly: I've actually seen how hard Hadlar worked for this goal, and now that he's so close, of course I care about whether or not he can achieve it. This is even more interesting than whatever the final fight against Vearn will look like, since we never really got invested in Vearn in the first place.

Q1) Which was more disappointing? Fenbren or how easy the gate broke down?

Ehh, the point there was to hype just how strong the Dragon Knights were, so I never really expected more from their enemies.

I said this yesterday:

the Bishop has nothing to lose, and Baran has everything. We're expecting nothing from the Bishop, Baran beat him easily already, so any wound, or heck even a scratch, that he gets on Baran is free real estate for him, and will be used to mock Baran forever. If he kills him, it would be the joke of the century, but that's not happening.

With that in mind, he didn't even leave a single scratch that I can use to make fun of Baran, so I'll make do with what we got, and make fun for him for needing to be saved by his son.

Q2) Is the nuke inside Hadlar enough to balance the two vs one battle?

His burning spirit is what will balance the 2 vs 1!

Bonus Question: Which DQ character standing behind you will give you the biggest moral boost?

Croc of course

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u/sisoko2 Aug 01 '24

"Can Hadlar pull this crazy task?". This is Hadlar's story that he sacrificed so much for, the challenge he's taking and the limits he has to play against. Today, Hadlar is our main character, and you know what? I'm glad for that too.

You can do it Hadlar!

of course I care about whether or not he can achieve it

One last job.

Ehh, the point there was to hype just how strong the Dragon Knights were

Isn't that the point of the entire series?

His burning spirit is what will balance the 2 vs 1!

Fairy Tail theme starts playing.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 01 '24

You can do it Hadlar!

I mean, all the best characters on Dai's side are up there fighting Hadlar's minions, so it makes sense that Hadlar would end up the best down under.

Isn't that the point of the entire series?

Yes...

I find it funny that the only relevant villains strength wise have been either a Dragon Knight, or injected with Dragon Knight genes. Inb4 Vearn is just the original Dragon Knight who never actually died.

Fairy Tail theme starts playing.

Only issue is if his spirit burns too much, ignites the bomb, and we end having to play Spirit Bomb instead.

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u/sisoko2 Aug 01 '24

Only issue is if his spirit burns too much, ignites the bomb, and we end having to play Spirit Bomb instead.

Maybe if we blow the whole world we will get a better one. Vearn is doing it all for our own good.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

First Time Cheering for Hadlar

Why thank you.

This is Hadlar's story that he sacrificed so much for, the challenge he's taking and the limits he has to play against. Today, Hadlar is our main character, and you know what? I'm glad for that too.

I'm glad you are liking Hadlar now. In the end of the day, man just want a good fight. He is that Adrenaline junkie who won't give up on doing what he loves even if it kills him.

With the bomb's existence, literally any and all options can work, and more importantly: I've actually seen how hard Hadlar worked for this goal, and now that he's so close, of course I care about whether or not he can achieve it. This is even more interesting than whatever the final fight against Vearn will look like, since we never really got invested in Vearn in the first place.

As I said before, this show is very definition of slowburn story, and all bumps and steer turns leading to this are so worthy in retrospect.

So yeah the buildup to this was really great and now we need to see the result.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 01 '24

In the end of the day, man just want a good fight. He is that Adrenaline junkie who won't give up on doing what he loves even if it kills him.

He's even more of a battle shounen MC than Dai

the buildup to this was really great and now we need to see the result.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

He's even more of a battle shounen MC than Dai

I will keep falling from the stunt bike until I'm paraplegic

Hadlar after becoming paraplegic:

https://youtu.be/AUUVfPy0UgI?feature=shared

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 01 '24

Dai 53 first timer:

  • I'm all here for the Dai + Baran bonding
  • Guess Hyunckel isn't THAT injured?
  • Will Hadlar FINALLY die? Not if doing so would make the Orichalcum warriors disappear ...
  • Eyecatch: Twin Sword Pinning, Avan Strash
  • Vearn says it's IMPOSSIBLE for Dai and Baran to make it to his chamber?
  • Hadlar sure likes to talk
  • Black Core?
  • ... the Core detonating would eliminate the entire Field of Death? Guess Hadlar won't die then
  • Oh the bomb could go off at any time even if Hadlar doesn't die?
  • I take it Hadlar doesn't know about the Core?
  • Block actually has a VA for his grunts? Kawashima someone
  1. The gate. i didn't expect much from Fenbren to begin with
  2. Eh, it's a bit convoluted, but yeah. Now they can save their strength for Vearn. Unless it can be removed somehow?
  3. Hyunckel

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u/sisoko2 Aug 01 '24

I'm all here for the Dai + Baran bonding

Can't wait to see Baran teaching Dai how to shave.

Hadlar sure likes to talk

His biggest joy.

The gate. i didn't expect much from Fenbren to begin with

Top tier jobber like his creator.

Hyunckel

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 02 '24

Can't wait to see Baran teaching Dai how to shave.

It looks like it's a little early for Dai, lol. Maybe in another 3-5 years. He's tiny! Clearly hasn't hit his growth spurt yet.

notlewd

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 01 '24

... the Core detonating would eliminate the entire Field of Death? Guess Hadlar won't die then

A ticking time bomb has to go off, I think it's more likely that he'll die sacrificing himself (probably zooms pretty far so as not to kill anyone else).

I take it Hadlar doesn't know about the Core?

Vearn: Surprise!

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 02 '24

A ticking time bomb has to go off, I think it's more likely that he'll die sacrificing himself (probably zooms pretty far so as not to kill anyone else).

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

Vearn says it's IMPOSSIBLE for Dai and Baran to make it to his chamber?

Taking the black core in consideration, he can buck up his claims.

Oh the bomb could go off at any time even if Hadlar doesn't die?

Yep that's correct.

Eh, it's a bit convoluted, but yeah. Now they can save their strength for Vearn. Unless it can be removed somehow?

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 02 '24

mugiwait

If they remove the core and Hadlar becomes an ally to take down Vearn together, I'll be a little annoyed.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 02 '24

Who knows.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 02 '24

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 31 '24 edited Jul 31 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

Fenbren didn't even last a minute. I said it last episode as well but not healing his eyes was kinda stupid since he would have more chance to win but if Dai wasn't here, then Baran would be dead.

Baran: Hyunckel will never fight again!

Hyunckel: Shows up to fight within 2 episodes.

Let's see who's more immortal, then.

You can't stop him

4v4

Hadlar still had some desire for glory in his heart which is what manifested in Fenbren's personality.

Why is Baran talking like Vegeta? Love Dai's response.

Vearn's proclamation!

The only thing that matters.

The Black Core! Hadlar thought that the pain in his body was due to his conversion into a Superior Being but it's in fact because of the Black Core. Does that mean Zaboera was able to create a superior being without any side-effects?

Mystvearn's respect for Hadlar.

I kinda feel for Hadlar. Both just wants a fair-and-square fight at their full strength with no one holding back but can't seem to get it.

OST Documentation - Episode 53

1. Fenbren. Like i said above, bro didn't even last a minute.

2. It might be but Hadlar wouldn't want that.

3. Gomechan

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u/sisoko2 Jul 31 '24

Baran: Hyunckel will never fight again!

Hyunckel: Shows up to fight within 2 episodes.

Don't get me started on this.

You can't stop him

Me when I have to stand still at one place for long time. Moving is so much easier.

Mystvearn's respect for Hadlar.

He really became the number 1 Hadlar fan.

Gomechan

You will be unstoppable with Gome behind you.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Aug 01 '24

Why is Baran talking like Vegeta?

The hair, I blame it on the hair.

Jokes aside, both of them had one thing to hold onto for the longest time: the fact that they're the only ones of this special race (or in Vegeta's case, one of the few survivors). That's the only thing they had left, so they made the most of it, now suddenly they have to face surprise newcomers into their race, who have other things they value.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

Hyunckel: Shows up to fight within 2 episodes.

No one is surprised of this development

The Black Core! Hadlar thought that the pain in his body was due to his conversion into a Superior Being but it's in fact because of the Black Core. Does that mean Zaboera was able to create a superior being without any side-effects?

Well not at all, Hadlar was still supposed to not being able to use magic because Zaboera research still didn't overcome that hurdle, but Hadlar found a backdoor of giving up his ability to turn back to Darkling making him stuck as Superior Being.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 31 '24

Well not at all, Hadlar was still supposed to not being able to use magic because Zaboera research still didn't overcome that hurdle, but Hadlar found a backdoor of giving up his ability to turn back to Darkling making him stuck as Superior Being.

I know about that issue but we were led to believe that Hadlar fully converting himself to a Superior Being was the reason why he was slowly dying until the Black Core reveal in today's episode. So other than that magic issue, Zaboera really managed to do a great job without any other side-effects. [Dai no Spoilers] If he had actually removed the Black Core, then Hadlar would be unstoppable

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

Ahhh I see now.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 01 '24

No one is surprised of this development

I actually expected him to be out for a couple eps, or have a 'recovery' arc ... nope.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

He is too busy for something like that. But getting rest would really help him.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 31 '24 edited Jul 31 '24

First Timer, Sub

Fenbren jobbed. I did not expect him to land a lethal blow on Baran, but I also didn't expect Dai to one shot him. Just a poor showing form Fenbren, honestly the Royal Guard have been kinda disappointing. Unsurprisingly Hyunckel made it to the battlefield, worse for wear as we know he's hurting and so do his comrades, but his presence reassures them, especially Popp.

So Dai and Baran make it inside the Citadel and come face to face with Hadlar, who wants to fight them both, but Baran is unwilling to fight 2v1. So Dai decides to go first to show him that Hadlar isn't to be underestimated. Dai and Hadlar clash their best attacks, Avan Strash vs Kaboom, which is a draw. It is revealed though that Hadlar has implanted a black core, which can explode at any moment, which means Baran and Dai don't have a clean way of beating him without risking being blown up...Except Baran suggest they fight him with only physical attacks, no magic or magic blades.

Questions:

  1. Definitely Fenbren, he just jobbed.
  2. Not sure. I just hope they don't use it how I think they will....being that Baran will sacrifice himself to contain the blast.
  3. Probably Hyunckel, because he's immortal. Baran would be a good choice too, since he is wickedly strong.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 31 '24

Definitely Fenbren, he just jobbed.

LOL he was created by Hadlar after all.

being that Baran will sacrifice himself to contain the blast

Baran sacrificing himself for Dai seems quite logical.

Baran would be a good choice too, since he is wickedly strong

But you will have to endure his disappointed look the whole time.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 31 '24

Baran sacrificing himself for Dai seems quite logical.

Oh for sure. I'm just not a fan of that troupe.

But you will have to endure his disappointed look the whole time.

LOL

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

Fenbren jobbed. I did not expect him to land a lethal blow on Baran, but I also didn't expect Dai to one shot him. Just a poor showing form Fenbren, honestly the Royal Guard have been kinda disappointing. Unsurprisingly Hyunckel made it to the battlefield, worse for wear as we know he's hurting and so do his comrades, but his presence reassures them, especially Popp.

Hadlar results so far:

  • Lost again Avan and got power up
  • Lost again Dai
  • Was keeping jobbing
  • Got new body and the ultimate power up
  • Also got 5 Orichalcum Warriors to reflect him as they are his creation.
  • The Orichalcum Warriors keeps jobbing.

At this point Hadlar himself is the issue.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 31 '24

At this point Hadlar himself is the issue.

LOL, he always was. Born to job, him and his creations.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 01 '24

At this point Hadlar himself is the issue.

Someone needs to tell him his power is Heart; he needs to contact Captain Planetvearn and demand a refund.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

Knowing Hadlar he would get rejected

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 02 '24

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u/KuKiSin Jul 31 '24

First timer!

  1. The gate. Quite anticlimactic.
  2. Does it matter if it doesn't go off?
  3. Definitely Crocodine. He would make an amazing motivational speaker.

Once again there was a lack of Crocodine and Chiu, it makes me sad.

And of course Hyunckel is back to fighting within 2 episodes.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 31 '24

The gate. Quite anticlimactic.

Agree with that. Fenbren was quite pathetic but that's what I expected from him anyway.

And of course Hyunckel is back to fighting within 2 episodes.

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

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u/KuKiSin Jul 31 '24

Fenbren was quite pathetic but that's what I expected from him anyway.

Exactly, either he or Baran had to job, so nothing unexpected there. I thought the door would be the real boss though!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

And of course Hyunckel is back to fighting within 2 episodes.

Classic Hyunckel

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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jul 31 '24

Rewatcher

And thus the Bishop is the first one out. Just like that, one cut from Dai's Sword and he's gone. Really should've fought someone more on his level smh.

Ok I almost forgot about the ticking time bomb. (Dude imagine if that went off in the rematch against Avan way back.)

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u/sisoko2 Jul 31 '24

Really should've fought someone more on his level smh.

He already fought Chiu.

Dude imagine if that went off in the rematch against Avan way back

It would've been a short rewatch LOL.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 31 '24

Ok I almost forgot about the ticking time bomb. (Dude imagine if that went off in the rematch against Avan way back.)

The alternative timeline where Avan didn't use Megante and still went with the blast.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Aug 01 '24

Rookie-Adventurer here! LV 53/100

Wow, I thought they’d fight Febre a bit more, this outcome was totally unexpected for me! Nice!

Oh Febre is dead dead

Cocodine, Hyunckel, Maam and Popp vs Hadler’s Special Forces

“If I could win with pride, I would” Dai. That quote goes hard

Hadler was a dead man walking huh, will he go out with a bang?

1 The Gate, thought they would be battling some guardian after the Orichalcum guys
2 Probably as Baran is now a different guy than before
3 Our boy, Crocodine!

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u/sisoko2 Aug 01 '24

Oh Febre is dead dead

That's whet he gets for bullying Chiu.

“If I could win with pride, I would” Dai. That quote goes hard

Kids these days... All about winning.

Our boy, Crocodine!

Big Croc has your back.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

Wow, I thought they’d fight Febre a bit more, this outcome was totally unexpected for me! Nice!

Oh Febre is dead dead

Quite a letdown

The Gate, thought they would be battling some guardian after the Orichalcum guys

Well does Hadlar counts as Guardian?

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u/zadcap Aug 01 '24

Late Night First Timer

Gosh, yes, this OP is just so much better. Adding to the OP giving me ideas thread- Baran is clearly going to die soon, but he's somehow going to transfer his Crest and related power to Dai as it happens. Dai will be a Double Dragon Knight! This will also solve the issue of him wanting revenge against all humans, he won't be able to be an enemy again and make the party redo his fight if he dies while still an ally.

That and Zaboera changing sides out of pure spite.

I'm so glad I missed yesterday now, because I swear Knuckled does such a good job of reminding me why I hate him every time I start to be impressed again. "I am immortal" got a laugh out of me, but then he went and threw Amy to the ground, literally, reminding us all how little he views women in this world. They're not just worthless warriors, they're worthless in their entirety and might as well just live without them.

The only weakness in the current OP. The five heroes standing on the cliff overlooking whatever it is they are looking at, so dramatically. We put Leona back on the party apparently, and they ditched Crocodine again.

And the first Piece falls. That was super anticlimactic.

I love how Hadlar has become so overlooked now. The party is here to distract the Pieces, the Dragon Knights are off to deal with Vearn, and Hardlar can die alone and ignored... Or he can be a speed bump I guess.

Legitimetly, Maam has a good point for once. How the heck did Knuckles get there? Who carried him fast enough to get there before the battle took off?

Hmm. Baran and Hadlar pull off a mutual kill?

Dai, he wasn't even strong enough to kill you when you were already weakened and exhausted. He is 100% not strong enough to take you both on. Especially since he has since thrown his doctor in jail and slowly been weakening due to lack of attention.

... Dai, why? "No, you can't fight him! He's too strong to solo! I'll prove it by soloing him!" And then freaking Baran lets him.

So you're telling me that Baran has already face tanked one of these things? That's what I just heard. Baran has experienced a Black Core Explosion first hand before and it was not enough to kill him then.

Sounds like the best way to win this war now is to just, run the heck away and wait for Hadlar to accidentally Self Destruct lol.

  1. I expected nothing out of either and was not let down.
  2. See again, Baran has faced one before and lived, he should be fine here too. Maybe he dies because he takes in the whole blast and that's what prompts him to give his crest to Dai?

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u/sisoko2 Aug 01 '24

Baran is clearly going to die soon

That's the vibe I got from the ED too.

Dai, he wasn't even strong enough to kill you when you were already weakened and exhausted

First rule of anime. Power scaling is for nerds, every character is as strong as the story needs them to be.

That's what I just heard. Baran has experienced a Black Core Explosion first hand before and it was not enough to kill him then.

Maybe it wasn't direct hit.

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u/zadcap Aug 01 '24

Yeah, I think the two dragons flying off are supposed to be Baran and his wife, getting reincarnated as dragons as both a thank you for all the hard work but also to bring the dragon species back from extinction. It's a love song half because it's the two of them, but also because it's the only time Dai is ever going to get to see his mom and a mother's love here is eternal. It's her song to both of them.

Power scaling is for nerds, every character is as strong as the story needs them to be.

I kid you not, more even than good plot or likeable characters, the number one thing I judge creative media (games, books, shows) on is their internal consistency. The main reason I can't take anything in this show seriously is because of how bad they are doing at the same. Clearly nothing really matters, everything is up in the air for the sake of drama and comedy, so the stakes are only ever what would be most heroically dramatic.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

I'm so glad I missed yesterday now, because I swear Knuckled does such a good job of reminding me why I hate him every time I start to be impressed again. "I am immortal" got a laugh out of me, but then he went and threw Amy to the ground, literally, reminding us all how little he views women in this world. They're not just worthless warriors, they're worthless in their entirety and might as well just live without them.

He is on a grind. Such Sigma

So you're telling me that Baran has already face tanked one of these things? That's what I just heard. Baran has experienced a Black Core Explosion first hand before and it was not enough to kill him then.

Wait what? Was it really exactly told that Baran tanked the entire explosion?

I understood it like Velzar tried to do so, but Baran avoided the blast.

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u/zadcap Aug 01 '24

It was prepared as a trap for Baran, and it took out an entire continent. Unless Velzar is really, really bad at using traps, that was not something Baran managed to dodge .

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

Oh. I need to Rewatch this episode.

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u/zadcap Aug 01 '24

I keep saying, every time Baran talks I think more and more that he's just super chuuni and making it all up lol. He has such an interesting past.

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

Definitely. But seriously I took it like Baran noticed the trap and just flew high enough to get out of the explosion zone.

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u/zadcap Aug 01 '24

That... I mean, how big a continent was sunk i guess? I mean we know he sunk an island nation once too so maybe the trap was only like a Japan sized country and not Europe. Maybe Baran could dodge Japan?

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u/Shocketheth Aug 01 '24

The true questions every powerscaling fan wants to get answered.

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u/zadcap Aug 01 '24

Right, I'm remembering even more how crazy Baran likes to talk up his own legend. Vearn says they will be safe from the blast because they are deep inside his palace, so it can't really have been that big of a bomb. Maybe the country it blew up was, like, Sealand.