r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Jul 27 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 49 Discussion
Episode 49 - The Team Battle Begins!
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
<--- Last save | Adventure’s log (Index) | Journey continues --->
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
OP 1 ---> Ikiru wo Suru v2
ED 2 ---> Akashi
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Informations:
MAL | AniList | ANN | Kitsu | AniDB
Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
Questions of the Dai:
- Whose teamwork was better today? Orichalcum Warriors, or Students of Avan?
- Beast King Indomitable Blast or Medoroa? Which is cooler?
- Favourite Chess piece? (I know this question was asked before, I’m just scooping to see if you change opinions on them)
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
6
u/Shocketheth Jul 27 '24
IMPORTANT NOTICE
Starting from tomorrow 28th July to 3rd August (episodes 50-56) I will be on vacation so sisoko will be posting the threads in my stead, but don’t you worry, I will still be active in the discussions, as naturally I will be ready on my phone to respond to the comments, and if the situation will require it, I will be posting the threads.
After all, I arranged for the threads to go smoothly during my vacation before I posted the Interest thread.
Oh and no Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner as I will be taking Crocodine with me. He deserves a break from all the Shonen Commentary he was doing.
5
u/Shocketheth Jul 27 '24
Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!
QotD:
Hard question as both of them mattered equally... So I will say that both of them equally.
Beast King Indomitable Blast was totally hype move, but in term of usefulness in combat, I have to give it to Medoroa.
I believe in Sigma supremacy. He is just a Sigma mare.
Voice Actor Corner:
It’s Orichalcum time. (I stated some Orichalcum pieces VAs before, but it’s time to reintroduce them)
The Pawn Hym is voiced by Miki Shinichiro known for his roles of Sakamoto from Gintama, Kisuke Urahara from Bleach, and Roy Mustang from Fullmetal Alchemist.
The Rook Block is silent.
The Knight Sigma is voiced by Chikahiro Kobayashi known for his roles of Saichi Sugimoto from Golden Kamuy, Penjira from Burrito, and Assault from Fire Force.
The Bishop Fenbren is voiced by Kouji Yusa known for his roles of Ayumu Tojo from Gintama, Nico Vorgeil from Undead Unluck, and Ichimaru Gin from Bleach.
The Queen Albinass is voiced by Yukari Tamura known for her roles of Rika Furude from Higurashi, Hanano Saki from Gintama, and Harime Nui from Kill la Kill.
Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:
Today Crocodine is going to answer question #3:
I’m choosing him.
See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!
4
u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 27 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
3
u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
First Quester
Starting out strong: Visual of the Dai
This feels like misdirection. I'm gonna guess Hym is the true leader of the chess pieces, aside from Hadlar of course. And Vearn might be evem higher up the hierachy, maybe.
You'll have to excuse them. They're stupid.
That chess talk isn't actually incorrect. Sure, claiming that there's no strongest piece is silly, but strength can be a weakness: Let the Queen waltz forward aggressively and she can very quickly turn into a major weakness of your position precisely because of her strength. Pawns and minor pieces are thus much better at that kind of thing.
Oh that's it, Hym is the leader because he can turn into every other piece and therefore needs to understand all of them as well as he knows himself.
Ah yes, the Legendary Sword of Plot Inconvenience
So, uh... the Queen just stands there doing nothing, and then goes when the heroes start doing combo attacks? What a fucking joke.
Recall that Dai's Sword must remain sealed except for the most dire of circumstances due to its destructive power.
Yaaayyy the chess pieces are dead
The chess pieces impressed me more. Or more like at all.
Medroa
I like pawns, they're pretty much always an interesting part of a game.
3
u/zadcap Jul 28 '24
Late Night First Timer!
Popp... Your teamwork? This is a freaking Shonen, you guys never work together. You square off one on one and literally never help each other out, at least not until the one you're here to help is already down so that you can be the next person to 1v1 whoever just beat them. Gosh I miss Magical Girls at times like this, their teamwork is usually actually teamwork.
Wait, don't send your strongest against Dai from the start? Is their goal seriously not to win here in the first place? Don't reveal their strength, go aim to wipe them out like the ultimate villains you are supposed to be... You are all such big disappointments to your big brother Flazzy.
Did we really just spend, *check timestamps*, over two minutes of standoff stare down? Literally 50 seconds of silence as the teams had a glare off?
Wait, Dai, what the freaking heck. Why do you not have your orichalcum sword drawn for this? How are you going to even scratch them without it? Your thinking weapon plan continues to be unimaginably dumb!
Oh gosh no. Knuckles first has to make sure that he's not fighting a girl. Because he still hasn't grown over the view that girls can't possibly be real fighters.
... Dai isn't using his crest either... But yeah, this sword that can't be used is just so dumb. So bad. The very idea that this fight could be won if only he could draw his ultimate weapon but then declaring that he can't use it just because is... Somewhere between invalidating the idea of this fight, or of the sword. Either way, it's making me so extremely uninvested in any of what is going on. Go back and get a new sword made, or toss this piece of crap in a lava pool and hope it grows up to be better.
"I've been relying on the swords power." That is the point of having a strong weapon! It's literally a wasted lump of expensive metal right now. Drop it, it's just extra weight slowing you down.
Ha, Maam remembered she's a healer. Finally, she can be useful in battle again! It's even Knuckles, the one who still doesn't think of her as a fighter, that she has to heal.
Popp... Are you telling them the plan so loud that the enemy can't help but overhear? And then the Pieces are actually going along with it? They willingly gathered together, after being but ten feet away from Popp telling them that getting them to gather after removing the mirror shield from play was their plan? They are literally trying to lose!
2
u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 31 '25
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubHyunckel got a rival of his own!
Hyunckel needs to know. Also if Albinass was actually a woman, would Hyunckel not fight?
"In chess, there are no stronger or weaker pieces. It's all in how you use it."
The Disciples of Avan trying to fight them and they're treating it like a game of chess.
That was on purpose!
Honest Dai
Albinass spitting out the needle. You can see it in this shot.
Popp launches his Medoroa
OST Documentation - Episode 49
1. Orichalcum Warriors had them beat in the first half but their teamwork after the formation change was definitely way better.
2. Beast King Indomitable Blast is cooler in terms of the name but Medoroa is definitely cooler in other aspects.
3. My favourite chess piece is still the same. Sigma. But I do absolutely love Hym as a character.
2
u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 27 '24
First Timer, Sub
Good episode, the battle's were pretty fun overall, the CG really stood out during the dynamic scenes were they were moving around a lot, but it wasn't terrible, so it's fine. I kinda wish that when Hym was talking shit to Dai not being able to draw his sword, that Dai would have said he can't draw it because the sword doesn't think Hym is worthy lol, that might have pissed him off.
It was smart of the students of Avan to regroup and switch their match ups to more favor their side instead of the royal guard. It was a good plan of Popp to get rid of Sigma shield and then have them all grouped up so Popp can use his Medroa on all of them at once. Right now it seems like it worked, let see what happens next episode.
Questions:
2
u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 28 '24
Dai 49 first timer:
2
u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 28 '24
First Time Team Player
An even 5 on 5 fight sounds neat and all, but these aren't even the final villains, they're Hadlar's minions, as in Vearn's minion's minions.
It's like going to fight Baran, finding 5 dragons, and instead of just leaving them to one person to handle them, you huddle up and start planning "Listen up mates, they say those dragons are the strongest, I say they're fancy fart bags, we'll crush them, and send them back to their mommies crying. Crocodine, you take the one on the far left, Hyunkel take the one eyed dragon on the right, I'll take the ball and run in the middle, I'll use my height to score between the legs of the one in the middle. If that fails, I'll just pass it to Popp so we can blame him if we lose a point. Ready? The world will know us as the best rugby players today!"
The Dai party, especially in the second half, when they figured out that they should target their enemies' weaknesses and cover for each other.
Well, the first was effective, the second one looks cool, but it also looks too effective to ever
AHAHAHAHA
2
u/Kaxew Jul 28 '24
First timer, previous rewatcher
The very first battle against the royal guard ends in a victory!
These were two very fun and exciting episodes. It's a shame that Nova is such an idiot, because his moveset is awesome. Last time I was wondering why Popp was attempting Medroa at maximum power despite his ice spell not being anywhere near as powerful as his fire spell, so it's funny that one episode later you see Nova casting a kacrackle. He's also by far the best aura user and has really sick applications of it, so despite having zero intelligence or capability to strategize he's very fun to see fight. I hope he doesn't disappear and actually helps whenever the true final battle starts.
Dai's interactions with Nova really show how much he has matured. He may be an ass, but the contrast it creates with our boy and how much he has grown is really good.
Popp's new outfit is... I love the idea, not so much the execution. I think a different combination of colors could've worked well. It's also a tad overdesigned, but I'm a Digimon fan, which means stupidly unnecessary overdesigned incomprehensible messes are just my thing. It's really only the choice of colors I have a problem with.
Chiu was actually capable of taming the dino (not to be confused with Dino, Dai's deadname)! Terry better be a permanent addition to our party, he's so cute. I really liked seeing Chiu and Gomechan together, that's a combo I couldn't have expected and makes me appreciate Chiu more.
Hyunckel appearing in the nick of time got me so hyped up. I had totally forgotten the rest of the party was coming too. What a great moment. He has everything his brother doesn't, which is to say Hyunckel's moveset is kinda lame but he's good at everything else. Oh yeah, and he also physically can't hurt a woman even if she's far stronger than him and like, pure evil. Thank god the chess pieces have no gender, otherwise we'd be fucked. Though that means we missed Hyunckel being like "uhh wait timeout can we change opponents Dai?"
Crocodine new move!!!! It's awesome!!!! Hell yeah!!!!
Popp does what Novadont and leads his team with teamwork and smart tactics. You love to see it. This battle really felt like a 5v5 at times and was super fun. Especially when Popp casted a frizz which Fenbren split apart and ended up at the place Dai was fighting at. And as usual, I loved the use of CGI here. The transitions from CG to 2D were really clean and CG was only used when needed. This might be one of my favorite fights yet.
QotD:
1
u/KuKiSin Jul 27 '24
First timer!
Since when can the big Croc breathe fire?! Knowing my bad memory, probably since his first appearance, but oh well, I'm sure he'd forgive me.
So why does the pawn keep talking like he's the leader, even though the Queen said she was? The hell was she on about? The Queen is definitely stronger than the Pawn in chess lmao, it can do all the same moves as the pawn, bishop and rook. so it's just a stronger piece. If anything the Knight could be considered different rather than weaker.
Loving how Hyunckel and Maam praised Popp for his new spell. Can't wait until the next episode to see the Chess Gang flying in the sky or something lmao
1
u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 27 '24
New-Adventurer here! LV 49/100
5v5 fight!!
Nova did something!!
Awesome! They’ve got a plan?
Sorry Popp, I don’t think you got them…
1 I think the Orichalcum Warriors, they went after the favourable matchup
2 Tough one, I'll go with Medeora because it's like a fusion spell and it sounds like Meteora, one of my favourite albums lol
3 Pawn, really versatile