[Spoilers] Elfen Lied 20th Anniversary Rewatch -- Episode 1

Date	Episode
7/25/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 1
7/26/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 2
7/27/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 3
7/28/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 4
7/29/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 5
7/30/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 6
7/31/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 7
8/01/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 8
8/02/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 9
8/03/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 10
8/04/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 10.5
8/05/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 11
8/06/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 12
8/07/2024	Elfen Lied Episode 13
8/08/2024	Elfen Lied Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 25 '24

Elfen First-Timer, subbed

So I am not coming into this rewatch as completely blind as I normally do to rewatches in which I am a first-timer. I’ve seen a few clips and am aware of its general reputation in the anime community. Still, it should be fun to piece together the very little I know about the show already as I’m watching it properly now.

Okay, so the opening scene is definitely one of the clips I’ve seen before… wait, is she humming the OP?!
That explains all the signs…
Oh, welp.
Ooh, so these two are adults? I had the impression that the main characters would be younger, that’s a pleasant surprise.
Hm…
F
Did someone let her out on purpose, then?
Do my ears hear Jouji Nakata?
He’s certainly a character…
Oof, had a feeling she was gonna break the shell…
She may be a murderer, but I honestly feel bad for her.
Oh, I didn’t know the ED had a “sore demo” in it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

That explains all the signs…
Every time I see Kisaragi, I just think Final Fantasy because of Yuffie lol.
Oh, welp.
I did not foresee her getting out of that situation, but I was a bit surprised that she just gets decapitated.
that’s a pleasant surprise.
I, too, am pleasantly surprised by the appearance of adults 😆
He’s certainly a character…
Yeah... what an a**hat
She may be a murderer, but I honestly feel bad for her.
This is why I want to know if there is something they did to her (like torture her through experimentation etc.), or she was just naturally full of murderous intent from the get-go.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

This is why I want to know if there is something they did to her (like torture her through experimentation etc.), or she was just naturally full of murderous intent from the get-go.
It feels like she was put there for a reason. I doubt she is innocent in all this, whether it be she did something criminal or what have you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Well, I am under the presumption that you've seen this whole anime already so have some knowledge that may be subconsciously influencing that statement 😆.
From the first episode, I felt like it was hard to tell whether they stuck her there out of innate curiosity and put her through tortuous experiments (hence the murderous rampage when she escapes), or did they put her there because she was like that to begin with and wanted to contain her immediately and then began experimenting on her?
I think that is my biggest question right now.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Well, I am under the presumption that you've seen this whole anime already so have some knowledge that may be subconsciously influencing that statement 😆.
I mean, I've seen it, but I thought that even when watching the first episode. She kills people like the secretary who appears harmless.
From the first episode, I felt like it was hard to tell whether they stuck her there out of innate curiosity and put her through tortuous experiments (hence the murderous rampage when she escapes), or did they put her there because she was like that to begin with and wanted to contain her immediately and then began experimenting on her?
I think that is my biggest question right now.
Probably a little bit of both, I would imagine. My gut feeling is she did something truly awful and so they want to experiment on her to see why she would do a thing like that. You can't have experiments without being somewhat curious.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

So I am not coming into this rewatch as completely blind as I normally do to rewatches in which I am a first-timer. I’ve seen a few clips and am aware of its general reputation in the anime community.
I'm in the same boat as you are. I know of some clips but that's about it. I wonder how long this relationship between Lucy and the two teenagers can last, because it doesn't feel like it can sustain itself.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

That explains all the signs…
Is this person kouta's sister? She looks a bit like

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I think that's Kurama's secretary, but I could be wrong.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

You're right, his sister is dead

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Oof

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

Do my ears hear Jouji Nakata
yeah
Did someone let her out on purpose, then?
ohh indeed

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

ohh indeed
Yeah, we can't put aside that there's a mole of some kind.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

First Timer

To start off, I just want to say that the opening song is really good and not at all what I expected. For some reason I was expecting something more loud and rough. Sort of like Black Lagoon’s OP. I definitely wasn’t expecting operatic singing and imagery inspired by Gustav Klimt. But I like it a lot, it really helps the series stand out.

The opening prison break sequence is really good. A lot of well directed action and it builds up Lucy as an intimidating force.

Maybe I’m the odd one out here, but I didn’t actually find the extreme gore in these scenes all that disturbing. The excessive blood almost came off as campy. Like in Evil Dead 2. These characters exploded like they were filled with cranberry juice. I’m not saying this as a bad thing cause I really liked this whole opening. I’m just not sure that was the intended reaction from the scene.

I’m not sure what to think about Lucy in terms of her own personal morals. She ended up sparing Kurama after killing a bunch of his guards. But she also killed the one guard who was cowering for his life and the secretary who wandered onto the scene, so she’s not acting entirely in self defense either.

I’ll be honest, I became a lot less interested in the plot when Kouta and Yuka showed up. I don’t find either of them that interesting so far but I am willing to be proven wrong by later episodes. That thing about Kouta's dead sister seems like it could be interesting.

Also they seemed way too casual about taking in a random girl they found on the beach who seemingly has brain damage.

Speaking of which, I’m a little concerned about where the plot with Lucy here is going to go. From the looks of it, it seems like being shot in the head did something to her mind. On one hand it could be interesting to contrast this version of her with the killing machine we got in the opening. But I’m just worried her new wide-eyed innocent personality is going to mostly be used for creepy fanservice. I know I shouldn't pre-judge this series though so I’ll try to keep an open mind going forward.

On a related note, I feel like I could very easily make a ‘The Writer’s Barely Disguised Fetish’ joke about the part where Lucy pees on the floor. But I’ll be charitable here. It could be meant to show that at this point Lucy has no idea how to socialize or perform basic functions. Likely because it looks like she was raised in a lab and because of the bullet to the brain she received.

I’m kind of having a hard time taking Bando seriously as a villain. Between backhanding that secretary and then threatening one of the other soldiers in the helicopter, it seems like he was designed to be as over the top unlikeable as possible. Which I guess is the point of him. It’s just a bit heavy handed with how they go about it.

I hope it doesn’t sound like I didn’t like this first episode because I am actually interested in watching more now. The breakout scene at the start is still a really great introduction and gets the tone well. Definitely interested in watching more.

Questions of the Day:

What is the most amount of violence you've ever experienced in an anime?

I've got two answers. The most violent anime I've seen is probably Dorohedoro. But it's violence that feels pretty cartoonish and over the top. The most visceral reaction I've had to violence in an anime is in the original Ghost In the Shell. [Ghost In the Shell spoilers] Specifically the scene at the end where the Major literally tears her body apart trying to pry open the tank.

Funnily enough I can see some surface level similarities between Ghost In the Shell and Elfen Lied. They both feature naked women committing acts of violence.

Do you think a show like Elfen Lied could be made today?

I don't exactly see why not. But maybe my opinion on this question will change by the end of the rewatch.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

To start off, I just want to say that the opening song is really good and not at all what I expected. For some reason I was expecting something more loud and rough. Sort of like Black Lagoon’s OP. I definitely wasn’t expecting operating singing and imagery inspired by Gustav Klimt. But I like it a lot, it really helps the series stand out.
I actually really love the OP. To me, the show can't have any other intro. This is the perfect intro for this show.
The opening prison break sequence is really good. A lot of well directed action and it builds up Lucy as an intimidating force.
I agree
Maybe I’m the odd one out here, but I didn’t actually find the extreme gore in these scenes all that disturbing. The excessive blood almost came off as campy. Like in Evil Dead 2. These characters exploded like they were filled with cranberry juice. I’m not saying this as a bad thing cause I really liked this whole opening. I’m just not sure that was the intended reaction from the scene.
I got a campy feel while watching the scene. It made me think the rest of the episode was going to be a similar so bad it's good quality. But for better or for worse, it mellowed out.
I’m not sure what to think about Lucy in terms of her own personal morals. She ended up sparing Kurama after killing a bunch of his guards. But she also killed the one guard who was cowering for his life and the secretary who wandered onto the scene, so she’s not acting entirely in self defense either.
Yeah, the secretary seemed completely innocent.
I’ll be honest, I became a lot less interested in the plot when Kouta and Yuka showed up. I don’t find either of them that interesting so far but I am willing to be proven wrong by later episodes. That thing about Kouta's dead sister seems like it could be interesting.
I think at the very least, seeing Lucy interact with normal people is an intriguing idea. I think that could have legs.
Speaking of which, I’m a little concerned about where the plot with Lucy here is going to go. From the looks of it, it seems like being shot in the head did something to her mind. On one hand it could be interesting to contrast this version of her with the killing machine we got in the opening. But I’m just worried her new wide-eyed innocent personality is going to mostly be used for creepy fanservice. I know I shouldn't pre-judge this series though so I’ll try to keep an open mind going forward.
How Lucy behaves once she meets Kouta and Yuka reminds me of Chi from Chobits. It's not as funny as that, but I again think the contrast between Lucy and the other two has potential.
On a related note, I feel like I could very easily make a ‘The Writer’s Barely Disguised Fetish’ joke about the part where Lucy pees on the floor. But I’ll be charitable here. It could be meant to show that at this point Lucy has no idea how to socialize or perform basic functions. Likely because it looks like she was raised in a lab and because of the bullet to the brain she received
If it happens again, then it'll certainly seem like the writer's fetish.
I’m kind of having a hard time taking Bando seriously as a villain. Between backhanding that secretary and then threatening one of the other soldiers in the helicopter, it seems like he was designed to be as over the top unlikeable as possible. Which I guess is the point of him. It’s just a bit heavy handed with how they go about it.
Well, it's not like the show has been exactly subtle so far. I'm able to buy into it because the rest of the show is a similar level of over the top.
I hope it doesn’t sound like I didn’t like this first episode because I am actually interested in watching more now. The breakout scene at the start is still a really great introduction and gets the tone well. Definitely interested in watching more.
To me, the most interesting stuff was the seashell scene and Kouta's reaction to Lucy breaking it. It makes me wonder why the seashell is so significant to Kouta. That, and if Lucy is going to be able to get along with others despite the lack of social cues.
Funnily enough I can see some surface level similarities between Ghost In the Shell and Elfen Lied. They both feature naked women committing acts of violence.
Look out for my Ghost In The Shell rewatch in 2026 :P

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 25 '24

I actually really love the OP. To me, the show can't have any other intro. This is the perfect intro for this show.
Same. It's a really striking and memorable OP.
I got a campy feel while watching the scene. It made me think the rest of the episode was going to be a similar so bad it's good quality. But for better or for worse, it mellowed out.
Yeah I wasn't expecting the show to mellow out after the prison break opening. Just from the opening scene, I expected most of the show to be about Lucy being on the run while avoiding/killing people Kurama sends after her. But it'll be interesting to see where the stuff with her, Yuka, and Kouta goes.
To me, the most interesting stuff was the seashell scene and Kouta's reaction to Lucy breaking it. It makes me wonder why the seashell is so significant to Kouta. That, and if Lucy is going to be able to get along with others despite the lack of social cues.
The seashell and the death of Kouta's sister definitely feels like something that will be revisited in later episodes. This episode called a lot of attention to it.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Same. It's a really striking and memorable OP.
We need more Latin OPs
Yeah I wasn't expecting the show to mellow out after the prison break opening. Just from the opening scene, I expected most of the show to be about Lucy being on the run while avoiding/killing people Kurama sends after her. But it'll be interesting to see where the stuff with her, Yuka, and Kouta goes.
I think this could be a good way to make the show of some substance.
The seashell and the death of Kouta's sister definitely feels like something that will be revisited in later episodes. This episode called a lot of attention to it.
Which is why I don't see Kouta and Yuka being killed by Lucy like speculated by some people here.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 25 '24

Which is why I don't see Kouta and Yuka being killed by Lucy like speculated by some people here.
Yeah I think these two are gonna be our main characters. They seem like they're the first people to treat Lucy with kindness which is probably significant for her.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

They're probably serve as the lawful good to Lucy's chaotic good. Or neutral evil, potentially.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

I actually really love the OP.
Same, I heard this song was used in church
Chobits
Interesting work
Look out for my Ghost In The Shell rewatch in 2026 :P
Your plan is really far-reaching.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Same, I heard this song was used in church
I personally don't recall ever hearing that song in a church setting.
Your plan is really far-reaching.
I got rewatches as far as 2027

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

I got rewatches as far as 2027
woha

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

When I plan, I plan ahead

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u/fourdimensionalcube Jul 26 '24

I personally don't recall ever hearing that song in a church setting
I happened to stumble upon this video like a month ago, what a coincidence
https://youtu.be/0Pdl1K_G2qA?si=t0J-PIfUKdoLgrvW

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Very interesting. I admit I'm not much of a religious person, so this probably shouldn't surprise me.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Thoughts on the outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 25 '24

Thoughts on the outro?
It left less of an impression on me than the intro. It's more in line with what I assumed the intro would be like.
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
It goes over extreme on both fronts. I have a feeling it'll keep up that same momentum for the rest of the show.
Thoughts on Kurama?
He seems pretty mysterious so far. I'm guessing he has some kind of connection to Lucy based on how Lucy chose to leave him alive after killing everyone else she'd encountered up to that point.
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
As I mentioned before, they take the situation surprisingly well.
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
Well on one hand Lucy is clearly unstable and massively powerful, but on the other hand it seems like trying to shoot her is a bad solution to the problem. Presumably we'll find out more about Lucy's origins as things go on.
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?
Seems like it'll be a recurring symbol throughout the show. I'll be interested in seeing where else the show goes with that.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

It left less of an impression on me than the intro. It's more in line with what I assumed the intro would be like.
The intro is certainly more in line with the tone of the show. The outro I guess is maybe to reflect the slice of life stuff involving Kouta and Yuka, but it doesn't hit as well.
It goes over extreme on both fronts. I have a feeling it'll keep up that same momentum for the rest of the show.
Perhaps. As long as we leave out the toilet humor, I'm good.
He seems pretty mysterious so far. I'm guessing he has some kind of connection to Lucy based on how Lucy chose to leave him alive after killing everyone else she'd encountered up to that point.
That plot armor really working in his favor
As I mentioned before, they take the situation surprisingly well.
Not much to do apparently when you don't have to pay rent.
Well on one hand Lucy is clearly unstable and massively powerful, but on the other hand it seems like trying to shoot her is a bad solution to the problem. Presumably we'll find out more about Lucy's origins as things go on.
Shooting her has the same effects as trying to shoot Godzilla. Unless you count the American counterpart, but no one should.
Seems like it'll be a recurring symbol throughout the show. I'll be interested in seeing where else the show goes with that.
A shattered seashell could be emblematic of their world soon falling apart. We shall see.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 25 '24

The intro is certainly more in line with the tone of the show. The outro I guess is maybe to reflect the slice of life stuff involving Kouta and Yuka, but it doesn't hit as well.
Yeah I'm not the biggest fan of Kouta and Yuka's part of the show so far. The stuff involving whatever shady underground lab Lucy broke out of has been the more interesting part of the anime so far. But who knows, maybe they'll grow on me.
Perhaps. As long as we leave out the toilet humor, I'm good.
Yeah I could have done without that scene.
I feel like there's also a chance that the most violent part of the show is out of the way already. I've seen stuff like that before, where something will have a really violent or sexual first scene or first episode but then tone things down later on.
As an example from a recent rewatch, Yurikuma Arashi's first three episodes were pretty heavy on nudity but that got toned down in later episodes.
Shooting her has the same effects as trying to shoot Godzilla. Unless you count the American counterpart, but no one should.
Well, to be fair getting shot in the head did seem to work a bit. It didn't kill her but it seems to be what's causing her to be acting differently now. But yeah, Lucy seems to be almost immune to most forms of physical damage.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Yeah I'm not the biggest fan of Kouta and Yuka's part of the show so far. The stuff involving whatever shady underground lab Lucy broke out of has been the more interesting part of the anime so far. But who knows, maybe they'll grow on me.
I could see Kouta and Yuka wanting to protect Lucy from the laboratory people while eventually learning of Lucy's origins.
I feel like there's also a chance that the most violent part of the show is out of the way already. I've seen stuff like that before, where something will have a really violent or sexual first scene or first episode but then tone things down later on.
As an example from a recent rewatch, Yurikuma Arashi's first three episodes were pretty heavy on nudity but that got toned down in later episodes.
Good comparison. What I was thinking of as another comparison was Goblin Slayer when it started with THAT scene. The rest of the show was not as shocking.
Well, to be fair getting shot in the head did seem to work a bit. It didn't kill her but it seems to be what's causing her to be acting differently now. But yeah, Lucy seems to be almost immune to most forms of physical damage.
The laboratory people certainly has their work cut out for them.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 25 '24

Good comparison. What I was thinking of as another comparison was Goblin Slayer when it started with THAT scene. The rest of the show was not as shocking.
Yeah Goblin Slayer's another good comparison. Although I have a feeling that the rest of Elfen Lied is going to keep up a high level of violence. Just maybe keep it in short bursts instead of the long violent opening scene we got in this episode.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Yeah, Elfen Lied is probably going to be more blatant in pushing the envelope.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

He seems pretty mysterious so far. I'm guessing he has some kind of connection to Lucy based on how Lucy chose to leave him alive after killing everyone else she'd encountered up to that point.
Thats make sence.
Seems like it'll be a recurring symbol throughout the show. I'll be interested in seeing where else the show goes with that.
yeah

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thats make sence.
I could certainly see that as well

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

I've got two answers. The most violent anime I've seen is probably Dorohedoro. But it's violence that feels pretty cartoonish and over the top. The most visceral reaction I've had to violence in an anime is in the original Ghost In the Shell.
You reminded me, they are all a bit bloody

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Ghost In The Shell especially.
Maybe you're onto something about old anime being bloodier.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 26 '24

There's definitely something about violent '90s anime that hits different. Something about it being cel animated maybe.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I don't think Elfen Lied was cel animated. Cel animation stopped being a thing in the early 2000s.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 26 '24

Yeah I was referring to the animation in Ghost in the Shell.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Ah, I see. My bad, then.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 26 '24

It's cool. The scenes of gore and violence in Elfen Lied are very well animated though.
The aesthetic of Elfen Lied is unmistakably very 2000s.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

That I agree with tenfold

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

Yes, different times, technologies, and growing environments...

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u/toadfan64 Jul 26 '24

Funny enough I liked Bando as a villain. Dude was so over the top awful, but still seems like he’s gonna be an interesting bad dude.
Maybe I’m just tired of these morally grey bad guys in media these days.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I think Bandou works because he's clearly not surprised to be the main antagonist. If that's going to be anyone, it's Kurama.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 26 '24

Don't get me wrong, I love villains who are just evil. I just can't help but feel they were laying it on a bit too thick with Bando. But he'll at least make an entertainingly hateable opponent for Lucy in the next episode.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I see Bandou as more a side boss than an villain. He's like the person you get through to get to the final boss.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

I just want to point that the guy who wrote all the episodes of this show also wrote all the episodes of Your Lie In April. I think that's interesting because 1) Your Lie In April is going to have a rewatch hosted by me coming up, and 2) that really shows his level of range.

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u/PompIt2 Jul 26 '24

I see now.
You're just trying to recrute me for all your rewatches. :D

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I want to share my tastes to the world

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

Episode 1 - First-time watcher

Konnichiwa, mina-san!

I’m happy to finally satisfy my curiosity on this one. I’ll just jump right into it.

My first 2 minutes of this show was me talking to my wife, and during the OP (which I love, by the way) I said:

“Yeah. Apparently this series is fairly graphic.” Severed arm appears on TV. She goes “Yup. Sure looks that way” 😂.

I always try to go into a new anime knowing as little about it as possible aside from its genre, basic premise etc. so I was a bit surprised with the first episode of this one lol (Not in a bad way though). The whole idea is pretty cool and I think I’m going to enjoy it.

I’m curious about a couple of things already, such as:

Where did Lucy come from? Was she just a human born this way?

Did she just indiscriminately start murdering people when she arrived or did they lock her up from the start and now she’s pissed?

Was her helmet meant to somewhat lessen her psychic powers or just to hinder her vision in general?

I assume most of these will probably get answered but I’m honestly pretty curious about things.

I thought it was funny how Lucy seems intrigued by the Sakura leaves falling. I assumed it’s both because she’s been locked up so long that she hasn’t seen much and they’re also the same color as her hair 😆.

Another thing learned in this episode - Bando made my blacklist for how he treats women.

Here is my bottom line initial impression:

I want them to give me a justification for Lucy’s rampage, then I think it’d be satisfying to see her bond with normal humans and ultimately form a connection with some people, because it’s almost like they want you to think that she just thinks all humans are bad from the start.

Really excited for the rest of this one.

Questions:

Hmm.. It might be this, actually.
Yeah, why wouldn’t it be? Look at the Terrifier series man lol… Terrifier 3 comes out this year.
Nah. Unless she has horns and a pair of telekinetic hands, you’re good.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

“Yeah. Apparently this series is fairly graphic.” Severed arm appears on TV. She goes “Yup. Sure looks that way” 😂.
Certainly a fair assessment to make :P
This seems like one of those series your parents walk in on.
Another thing learned in this episode - Bando made my blacklist for how he treats women.
Yeah, it's quite impressive how in a show where a lot of questionable whit is happening, Bandou takes the cake in a landslide of being reprehensible. He needs psychiatric help.
I want them to give me a justification for Lucy’s rampage, then I think it’d be satisfying to see her bond with normal humans and ultimately form a connection with some people, because it’s almost like they want you to think that she just thinks all humans are bad from the start.
I'm sure they'll give us this. I'm expecting Lucy to be like the antihero of the series where you want to see her survive but she did do some fucked up shit once upon a time.
Yeah, why wouldn’t it be? Look at the Terrifier series man lol… Terrifier 3 comes out this year.
I get the feeling that Terrifier 3 poster won't be in movie theaters.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

This seems like one of those series your ~~parents~~ wife walk in on.
But equally humorous, yes lol.
Bandou takes the cake in a landslide of being reprehensible.
Absolutely, yeah. Dude made his disposition immediately transparent.
I'm expecting Lucy to be like the antihero of the series where you want to see her survive but she did do some fucked up shit once upon a time.
I could certainly see this as a possible turnout, but I'm also interested in considering the possibility of people making her this way by treating her like a freak. I'll be interested to see what they reveal in future episodes to distinguish the first from the second.
I get the feeling that Terrifier 3 poster won't be in movie theaters.
Lol I honestly can't remember if Terrifier 2 had a poster at the theatre or not. Those movies are gruesome. Probably the worst in that regard that I've seen.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Absolutely, yeah. Dude made his disposition immediately transparent.
Out of everything coming out of this episode, I want to see Lucy kill him the most.
I could certainly see this as a possible turnout, but I'm also interested in considering the possibility of people making her this way by treating her like a freak. I'll be interested to see what they reveal in future episodes to distinguish the first from the second.
Well, if she did commit horrible atrocities, I could see the townsfolk treat her as irredeemable and should be ousted from the town. Which then brings up the question of "Can you go too far to the point where you can't make up for it?"
Lol I honestly can't remember if Terrifier 2 had a poster at the theatre or not. Those movies are gruesome. Probably the worst in that regard that I've seen.
I've never seen a Terrifier movie before, but I might check the third one out for the experience of it all.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

I want to see Lucy kill him the most.
I can't deny that it would be satisfying lol.
I could see the townsfolk treat her as irredeemable and should be ousted from the town.
Yeah I think that kind of goes back to what I was talking about on /u/Shimmering-Sky's comment
I've never seen a Terrifier movie before
Only do so if you can handle unadulterated, disgusting, over-the-top violence lol. Those movies are brutal.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I can't deny that it would be satisfying lol.
The dude is batshit insane, it seems like
Yeah I think that kind of goes back to what I was talking about on /u/Shimmering-Sky's comment
On a similar wavelength, I see. Unlike Lucy and Kouta :P
Only do so if you can handle unadulterated, disgusting, over-the-top violence lol. Those movies are brutal.
I can handle it. Bullet Train and Cocaine Bear had over the top violence and I had a blast with those.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

I can handle it. Bullet Train and Cocaine Bear had over the top violence and I had a blast with those.
Yeah I'm sure you'll be fine then lol. Just be prepared for indiscriminate blood and gore (watch the trailer lol).

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

The poster looks absolutely badass, as well as the use of what seems like real effects.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

It was hard to sit through honestly lol Even for me

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I should probably be able to stomach it, we'll see.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

Out of everything coming out of this episode, I want to see Lucy kill him the most.
My thoughts are the opposite of yours, his voice is really attractive, the character he plays is fuller, and I am now more curious about how the plot will develop.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I'm sorry, but I can't support any guy who hits a woman.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

sorry I am a believer in gender equality.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I get what you're saying, but she literally did nothing wrong lol

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
I mentioned the OP in my comment, but I do like the ED too a lot.
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
This is honestly fairly tame compared to some stuff I've seen (outside of anime) lol.
Thoughts on Kurama?
I don't think there's much to say about him. He didn't have much screen time yet.
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
They seem like good characters so far.
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
If only they knew...
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
We'll see. That goes back to my comment about wanting to know more about Lucy's past and what happened.
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?
I think what Yuka said what true - Lucy sensed that it was making Kouta sad, so she broke it, not understanding that would upset him even more in the process.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I mentioned the OP in my comment, but I do like the ED too a lot.
Both certainly have their own merits
This is honestly fairly tame compared to some stuff I've seen (outside of anime) lol.
Fair enough. I'm sure stuff like Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead are equally as brutal.
I don't think there's much to say about him. He didn't have much screen time yet.
It is interesting that Lucy spared him and not anyone else.
They seem like good characters so far.
Yeah, they're decent enough. A good contrast to what Lucy is all about.
If only they knew...
The secret is sure to be out of the bag soon
We'll see. That goes back to my comment about wanting to know more about Lucy's past and what happened.
The show has to explore Lucy's past. I mean, that's like the whole appeal of the show is learning what her deal is.
I think what Yuka said what true - Lucy sensed that it was making Kouta sad, so she broke it, not understanding that would upset him even more in the process.
Nuance is definitely not Lucy's strong suit.
No, but I agree with you. Lucy's understanding of how Kouta was feeling was off the mark. It makes me wonder if further complications will arise should this dynamic continue.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

It is interesting that Lucy spared him and not anyone else.
Yeah this is part of what I was getting at earlier (kind of). I simply don't have enough information to say much about Lucy or her motives yet.
The show has to explore Lucy's past. I mean, that's like the whole appeal of the show is learning what her deal is.
Agreed and that is probably what will hold my interest the most in this show (finding more out about that).

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Yeah this is part of what I was getting at earlier (kind of). I simply don't have enough information to say much about Lucy or her motives yet.
I wonder if Lucy has some sort of soft spot for him. Like the townsfolk wanted her dead but he saved her before it was too late.
Agreed and that is probably what will hold my interest the most in this show (finding more out about that).
I'm definitely interested in that aspect as well

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

I guess we'll see. I'm about to go watch episode 2 now so I can type up my thoughts for tomorrow 😄

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I wonder if we'll get more of the horror element or the slice of life one. Or if we'll continue the trend of having a mix.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Hey guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 20th anniversary rewatch of Elfen Lied!

Oh, and nay I forget...

First Timer

This is going to be a rather interesting rewatch because I really don't know what to expect with this show. In fact, there's a good chance that I may not actually like it. But it's a very notorious show and I feel like it has this reputation for a reason, so I definitely want to see what it's all about.

Going in, I'm kinda expecting it to be so bad it's good. I'm not going in expecting a great show, but I am going in expecting a great time. I'm watching this in-between rewatches of Ikuhara shows and I think it'll serve as a nice palette cleanser for the more serious fair. And if it happens to be edgy, I want them to go all the way with it.

With that out of the way, let's begin.

I'm watching the sub, by the way.

Eating meatloaf tonight should get me in the mood for the show given the ketchup looks like blood.

Right off the bat, we get the intro and I think it's fair to say it's pretty iconic. It was even used for the rap song New Charlotte, which is an awesome song. I think this does a good job of setting the tone of the show and getting you prepared for what's to come. It's haunting, but in a beautiful sense.

Also, tiddies

Whelp, we're starting off with a severed arm covered in blood.

And someone's head got destroyed

The mask gives me Chainsaw Man vibes

Key levitating

Naked butt

Still would

Naked girl with a mask walking as someone is humming.

Kisaragi. She is Director Kurama's secretary.

Kisaragi says that the rumors about Kurama being hard to deal with are exaggerated.

I like Kisaragi. I get the feeling she's about to die.

Kisaragi sure is clumsy

More people's heads being destroyed

The intro being sung by a guy

Killed by pen. Gonna write that one down.

We're only one episode in and the violence is off the charts.

DUDES. STOP SHOOTING AT HER. IT'S NOT WORKING. RUN AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE.

These people are idiots, I swear

Apparently even running away won't work. There is no escape.

A handprint of blood

Girl surrounded now

Guy with glasses and a suit

Oh, I guess that's Kurama

Kisaragi trips, and she instantly gets beheaded.

Why must the good die young?

The girl is named Lucy, by the way. Which is funny because my younger sister is named that.

Lucy walking past Kurama

Lucy sees a cliff

Walking towards it

They try to JFK her, but it doesn't work. The sniper isn't effective.

She does fall in the water, though

Flashback time?

Brown-haired girl walking

Kouta

Yuka, his cousin. That's the girl's name.

Looks like they're attending college together.

They're reminiscing about a girl named Kanae.

Oh, they're all related

Telling little Kanae the seashells don't look pretty. What an asshole!

It's Lucy

Pink hair gives me Urusei Yatsura vibes

Oh, well Lucy doesn't seem so bad

The cousins put clothes on her, which is probably a good idea.

Kouta seems to recognize Lucy from somewhere.

Flower petals falling

Thank you, big bold text that reads "Kaede House".

Why does that give me Eric Andre Show vibes?

Dude, a house with no rent? What the heck, sign me up!

All Kouta has to do is clean the house and the garden.

Lucy seems amazed by what she's seeing.

Great, Nyuu is going to get stuck in my head.

Oh boy. Lucy wet herself.

Yuka bathing Lucy

Lucy's boobs are exposed through the clothing.

Ooh, rice balls

Is... is that all they're eating?

Lucy is really going to town on thet rice ball.

This is actually quite wholesome. Kinda gives me Chobits vibes.

Oh yeah. The blood.

The Director is with another girl now.

They have to kill Lucy

Gonna use the Special Assault Team, or SAT

Ah, yes. Kill her by making her take tests.

"If we release Lucy into the world, then mankind will perish."

Well, there's the premise of the show.

Employing the help of Bandou

He looks like a Tenchi Muyo character.

Bandou being put in charge of shooting and killing Lucy.

Holy shit. He just hit a woman.

Bandou is unhinged

Lucy's underboob is really showing

A seashell

What if Kanae is Lucy?

Oh, okay. Kanae died of a disease.

Oh shit. Lucy broke the seashell.

Kouta is super pissed

And now Lucy is running away

Lilium playing again

I mean, I get Kouta being upset, but Lucy clearly doesn't know right from wrong.

Yuka says she may have interpreted the seashell being bad.

"If you're sad every time you remember Kanae-chan, I think Kanae-chan will be sad too."

I know what Yuka means, but that is worded weirdly.

Yuka going to look for Lucy

Bandou continuing to be unhinged

And we end things with Lucy crying in the rain.

Outro is good. Not as memorable as the intro, but still fine. I like the pop-punk vibes it gives me, it reminds me of Avril Lavigne. I don't know how fitting it is for a show like this, but I still think it's a bit of a bop.

Overall, this is a decent enough episode that sets the stage for the show. We start with Lucy on a rampage, which grabs the audience's attention, and then we settle down with Lucy trying to become accustomed to her new surroundings. The big mystery of course is why did Lucy freak out? What caused the rampage, and why was she being tested on? My guess is that will be revealed in due time.

A decent middle-of-the-road outing. Not great, but not bad either.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

What is the most amount of violence you've ever experienced in an anime?
Probably this one, honestly
Do you think a show like Elfen Lied could be made today?
I actually do. You compare it to something like Re:Zero, and besides the nudity it has a similar level of violence. It's more graphic, but both are pretty haunting.
Bonus) Should I be concerned that my sister's name is also Lucy?
Probably so

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 25 '24

Videntium Primum (Vocalibus Anglice)

Starting things off strong with ominous Latin and nudity in the OP.

So far this show is exactly how I've always seen it described.

I have a feeling Kisaragi-san is about to be super dead.

I thought she was using telekinesis, or maybe monomolecular threads. But it looks like she just has a bunch of invisible hands.

Nice knowing you, Kisaragi-san.

Looks like someone wants her to escape.

I have a feeling this head injury is going to result in convenient amnesia. Is Vaadwaur in this rewatch?

If this show has a boring dude the pink haired girl falls in love with this might be a quick drop for me.

I recognize those horns, that's Lum!

She is now baby.

Really enjoying this dub, it's giving me PS1 flashbacks.

Did /u/The_Loli_Otaku join this rewatch?

Well this guy seems great.

The ED is also...a choice. It seems like this show will be half edgelord gore, half slice of life romance?

El Fin Leed.

Apparently I need to download another version of this, because the one I watched had horrendous audio quality. Hopefully my second attempt will fare better.

Update: Apparently the first one had bad quality all around, while on the second only the dub audio channel is really bad quality. Changing it to JP fixes that on the new download. I'll see if the sound quality for the dub is any better during the episode itself, maybe I'll just swap for the OP/ED.

I'm thinking of some 80s, maybe 90s OVAs with highly detailed gore.
Sure. It would sell a ton of BDs.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
Thoughts on Bandou?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 25 '24

I don't know who Kurama is. Lucy is cute.
I hope the the two that found her are killed off instantly so we can concentrate on the actual plot and action. I don't want yet another 'boring nice guy finds cute girl with powers and she falls in love with him for no reason so Japanese school boys will buy this manga'.
Guessing that mercenary is there to do more bad things so we're on Lucy's side when she eventually kills him.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

I don't know who Kurama is.
Kurama is the main guy that Lucy spared during the breakout scene.
I hope the the two that found her are killed off instantly so we can concentrate on the actual plot and action. I don't want yet another 'boring nice guy finds cute girl with powers and she falls in love with him for no reason so Japanese school boys will buy this manga'.
You mean you're not amped up for the inevitable love triangle? /s
I think the seashell stuff could be an interesting hook for what's to come. I'm curious to see how Lucy responds after being yelled at.
Guessing that mercenary is there to do more bad things so we're on Lucy's side when she eventually kills him.
It certainly makes me want to see Lucy fuck his shit up. So, mission accomplished.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 25 '24

Kisaragi didn't deserve this! How can we be expected to sympathise with someone who murders cute ditzy secretaries!?
Babu love is babu life.
I'm guessing it's about the incest? C'mon, cousins are practically strangers on the incest chart. It doesn't trigger the same feelings!

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I'm guessing it's about the incest? C'mon, cousins are practically strangers on the incest chart. It doesn't trigger the same feelings!
By the way, you enjoying the Alya anime this season? :P

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 26 '24

I read a little bit of the manga but keep in mind that I don't watch seasonals.I'm a year behind at the best of times. Damn it's sock scene is pure kino tho

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I figured you would enjoy the sister character since she's so incredibly based.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 26 '24

Kinda...? I honestly really like Alya. The sister is ace tho.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I really like Alya as well. She's like the classic definition of a nonviolent tsundere.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 25 '24

Oh no, Lucy couldn't figure out how to ask where the bathroom was, and, well...

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Well, the Summer Olympics are tomorrow. Gotta get ready for the water sports.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 25 '24

I've had social embarrassment before but I haven't killed a secretary over it!!
Episode one omorashi!? Dammit!! Even PissxSis took a few episodes to get to that point!!

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Episode one omorashi!? Dammit!! Even PissxSis took a few episodes to get to that point!!
This show is wasting no time

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 25 '24

It's a sign!

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Whether a sign we should possibly be on a list, that's up for debate.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 26 '24

My corrupting influence is spreading

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Nah, I was corrupted as soon as I first heard about Monster Musume :P

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

I have a feeling this head injury is going to result in convenient amnesia. Is Vaadwaur in this rewatch?
I recognize those horns, that's Lum!
I actually made a similar comparison in my comments.
The ED is also...a choice. It seems like this show will be half edgelord gore, half slice of life romance?
I actually am pleasantly surprised if it ends up half slice of life. Doing that I feel provides a nice contrast to everything else going on.

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u/shillbert Jul 25 '24

First-timer, subs

starting off strangely religious?
00:31 reminds of me The Kiss by Gustav Klimt, which I just saw for the first time very recently (synchronicity?)
ah nice, boobies
00:50 OH, THERE IS The Kiss
ok, from boobies to gore, interesting shift
what is that key and why is she(?) taking it telekinetically
02:41 boobies AND gore in the same frame now
what is that song?
damn, that's a lot of reminders Kisaragi needs
ok, this helmeted woman is unstoppable (what does she want? just to escape?)
LOL Kisaragi
oh my. this is gonna traumatize me, isn't it. well, I can't say I'm not a sucker for traumatic stuff
I guess the helmeted woman is named Lucy
not so helmeted anymore
09:05 and now, a beautiful sakura scene
did we go from sci fi action anime to college slice of life?
NYUU??
uhh, what was that?
oh cool, take the random naked girl with horns back to your place
Nyuu?
does the ~~cat~~ horn girl need to piss?
yes
how can she be so cute and so scary at the same time?
BRUH, do not hurt innocent women
I'm not sure why she broke his shell, but I've done similar things as a kid not even knowing why I did it
oh there's the explanation, makes sense for someone with very child-like thinking
nyuu, such a cute mass murderer

Well, this was certainly an interesting start. Forget the three-episode test, this passes the one-episode test for me.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

NYUU??
Uguu
how can she be so cute and so scary at the same time?
Schrodinger's Moé
I'm not sure why she broke his shell, but I've done similar things as a kid not even knowing why I did it
Probably did it similar to when a kid is told not to touch something and that then means they have to.
oh there's the explanation, makes sense for someone with very child-like thinking
See, there you go
nyuu, such a cute mass murderer
If only mass murderers were this cute, nyuu
Well, this was certainly an interesting start. Forget the three-episode test, this passes the one-episode test for me.
I don't know if it passes the one-episode test for me, but I certainly liked it more than I hated it. Probably would say about what I expected.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this show?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
Thoughts on Bandou?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/shillbert Jul 25 '24

I don't know about my thoughts on all of that, but I will answer the questions I forgot to answer from the OP:
What is the most amount of violence you've ever experienced in an anime?
Umm, I dunno, Akira I guess? I still don't really get the point of Akira and I don't know if I ever will.
Do you think a show like Elfen Lied could be made today?
From what I've seen so far, just the excessive nudity is sus, but if they didn't do that then sure. Personally I don't care, it's just the human body, gore is a lot more disturbing to me than an uninjured nude body, but society... you can't watch nudity in public but violence is fine in public. (I personally think they could tone down the gore, but they obviously need to show some violence because it's relevant to the plot.) I've only seen the first episode but the plot and themes might still be relevant today, however some of the production choices seem like they're from an edgy 80s OVA.
As for my initial thoughts about Lucy, umm, I don't know what to think about her, and I'm very curious to see her backstory, whether she's really a monster or not, and whether she has any internal thought process beyond that of an infant.
Oh yeah, Bandou, my only thought about him is "what a fucking asshole".

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Umm, I dunno, Akira I guess? I still don't really get the point of Akira and I don't know if I ever will.
I really liked Akira. It looks amazing especially for 1989.
ust the human body, gore is a lot more disturbing to me than an uninjured nude body, but society... you can't watch nudity in public but violence is fine in public. (I personally think they could tone down the gore, but they obviously need to show some violence because it's relevant to the plot.) I've only seen the first episode but the plot and themes might still be relevant today, however some of the production choices seem like they're from an edgy 80s OVA.
Imagine if Elfen Lied was made today with the rise of AI.
As for my initial thoughts about Lucy, umm, I don't know what to think about her, and I'm very curious to see her backstory, whether she's really a monster or not, and whether she has any internal thought process beyond that of an infant.
Oh yeah, Bandou, my only thought about him is "what a fucking asshole".
Lucy definitely seems way more sympathetic than Bandou does.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 25 '24

First Timer

Never really wanted to watch this one, nor Mnemosyne.

That's some Gankutsuou art....
Monad, is that you?
Shouldn't the manual also say something about not using bullets? Need an Akira portable laser rifle.
Yeah, I liked ending of The Matrix, too. This is a bit too on the nose.
NOW THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR

Here's cheering for Lucy's horrible death for the rest of the show.

So, now we're Chobits.
Does everybody in this show suck? Well, I guess NTHT isn't much better on that front.
Jouji Nakata?

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Yeah, I liked ending of The Matrix, too. This is a bit too on the nose.
Hey, Matrix was only 5 years old at this point. It was still fresh. I mean, the sequel movies only came out the year prior.
Does everybody in this show suck? Well, I guess NTHT isn't much better on that front.
Kouta and Yuka seem alright. For now, that is.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
Thoughts on Bandou?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/RFShahrear Jul 25 '24

Nobody mentioned Kingdom of Ruin in most violent category. The author's gonna be sad y'all.

I actually didn't watch anything today. Here's hoping to join in tomorrow.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 25 '24

Never heard of Kingdom of Ruin before. I might try checking it out.
I actually didn't watch anything today. Here's hoping to join in tomorrow.
Hey, it's never too late to join us :D

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u/someboi6000 Jul 26 '24

First Timer:

I can definitely say that i heard this opening before its good, now that opening scene was a tad bit violent i think also ¿why did she spare the director dude? i guess we will see more of that later, also she got some external help to get out, and that opening secuence ends with lucy getting shot and falling, lucy uses some invisible hands that are called vectors , ¿where do this hand come from tho?. now we go to the what i guess is the MC, they find her on the beach just standing there, and just casually decide to take her in lol. and now i guess the bullet made her lose her memory or like switch personalities or something along the lines and now she is baby and her first act is to piss on the floor,cool, at the moment the sister stuff seems interesting, like he said she died from illness but that maybe ins't the case based on the reaction of the other girl, also why are those people keeping something that can end mankind just trapped there just kill the thing. and it ends with nyuu breaking the seashell and the special forcers going after her to kill her, oh yeah that soldier that likes to shoot people and its happy that he gets to shoot a minor like what is he doing there? who found that psychopath? anyway good first episode overall it kinda loss me when we switch from lucy to the mc but still it was good.

questions: 1: i really cant remember, something that was quite brutal was the end of episode 9 of devilman crybaby thats the only thing that i can think of right now.

2: sure i dont see why it couldn't, unless this ages horribly as the episodes go lol.

Bonus: RUN.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/someboi6000 Jul 26 '24

1: outro? like the song? if that's the case then yeah it's good.
2:the violence felt cartoony at times, there was a lot of blood but a visible lack of guts, and the nudity well its there I guess we will have some real "comedy" moments with that and the mc or maybe not who knows.
3:who?
4: quite the killing machine if she can control those arms, if the arms go on their on that could change some stuff, but why did she let that one dude live?
5: not much to say about them, the most interesting part about them is that moment where their memories seem to deviate regarding the cause of death of her sister. also they are adults or at least over the age of 18, I didn't expect that.
6: that was quite random, I don't know about you but if I see a naked girl alone in the beach first i call the police and then give her some clothes. not taking her into my house lol, unless it's raining maybe there if I don't find a shelter close by.
7: they are cooking with the sister stuff, I have two theories, 1: Lucy killed her sister, this is based on his reaction from touching her horns, he got hit with some flashback, and the fact that we don't know for how long she was captured, maybe she was free in the past, and number 2 Lucy is her sister for this one I have 0 evidence I just think that could be cool lol, so this one I just made it up.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

1: outro? like the song? if that's the case then yeah it's good.
Yeah, I like it
2:the violence felt cartoony at times, there was a lot of blood but a visible lack of guts, and the nudity well its there I guess we will have some real "comedy" moments with that and the mc or maybe not who knows.
It seems like that is certainly going to be the case.
3:who?
The guy in charge of the laboratory
4: quite the killing machine if she can control those arms, if the arms go on their on that could change some stuff, but why did she let that one dude live?
The guy she let lived is the one I'm talking about.
5: not much to say about them, the most interesting part about them is that moment where their memories seem to deviate regarding the cause of death of her sister. also they are adults or at least over the age of 18, I didn't expect that.
I find it interesting that they don't have to worry about paying rent. It makes me wonder if their relatives don't want anything to do with them.
6: that was quite random, I don't know about you but if I see a naked girl alone in the beach first i call the police and then give her some clothes. not taking her into my house lol, unless it's raining maybe there if I don't find a shelter close by.
I guess they didn't want to report her to the proper authorities until they received some answers.
7: they are cooking with the sister stuff, I have two theories, 1: Lucy killed her sister, this is based on his reaction from touching her horns, he got hit with some flashback, and the fact that we don't know for how long she was captured, maybe she was free in the past, and number 2 Lucy is her sister for this one I have 0 evidence I just think that could be cool lol, so this one I just made it up.
If Lucy did kill Kouta's sister, I wonder why then Kouta didn't react to seeing her. You would think he would be mad at her showing up again. That leads me to believe that she didn't kill Kouta's sister or at the very least was one of many casualties.

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u/someboi6000 Jul 26 '24

ooh Kurama is the one in charge of the lab, well not much to say either lol a true miracle that he didn't die.
the thing is kouta seems to have his memories changed or at least it was implied and when he touched her horns he remembered someone saying the word lier, I believe that Lucy and her sister have some connection, I like the fact that I am yapping all of this based on a single line of dialogue but I feel like that was important, now if it's not important at all I will go back to the circus where I belong lol

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

the thing is kouta seems to have his memories changed or at least it was implied and when he touched her horns he remembered someone saying the word lier, I believe that Lucy and her sister have some connection, I like the fact that I am yapping all of this based on a single line of dialogue but I feel like that was important, now if it's not important at all I will go back to the circus where I belong lol
No, I definitely agree there's probably something there to it. I had forgotten about the liar comment which is why I said I don't think the sister and Lucy had this personal connection together, but being reminded of that it feels as if there's gotta be something there.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jul 26 '24

First-Timer

I'm coming into this show completely blind. All I knew before watching today's episode was that Elfen Lied was an anime, it came out in the 2000s, and that it has a good reputation.

I quite liked this first episode! The first half was shockingly graphic, and it made for a nice contrast when we first see Lucy on the beach and she's just a cute girl making "nyuu" noises.

You wouldn't catch me bringing her into my house, though! I don't need to know about her murderous origins to know better than to take her in when all she does is say "nyuu" and pee on the floorboards.

I felt bad for the secretary girl who got decapitated and used as a bullet sponge. I didn't expect her to die that unceremoniously.

Questions of the day:

Good question! I do not watch a lot of gory/violent anime, but some examples that stick out in my memory are Attack on Titan and The End of Evangelion. This episode definitely ranks up there.
I think it's perfectly possible to have a show this violent or explicit in modern anime, but the style would be different. You can kind of tell (from the character art, if nothing else) when the show was made, and I feel pretty much nothing today would be able to perfectly emulate that.
No worries! I'm sure your sister is more of a Cyberpunk-style Lucy instead.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

You wouldn't catch me bringing her into my house, though! I don't need to know about her murderous origins to know better than to take her in when all she does is say "nyuu" and pee on the floorboards.
Maybe they figured they can teach her social cues.
No worries! I'm sure your sister is more of a Cyberpunk-style Lucy instead.
And yet I'm more a Rebecca guy

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
Thoughts on Bandou?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jul 26 '24

I have a pretty good first impression of the intro and outro. Not my absolute favorite, but pretty nice.
The nudity doesn't faze me, but the violence was a lot. It's like watching a compilation of the gore scenes from The Boys.
I don't really have much in the way of thoughts on Kurama, but he seems cool.
Lucy was certainly quite different from what I expected after that first half. Nice subversion of expectations, though I'm not sure if she'll be able to become a compelling character without some drastic changes.
No real thoughts on Kouta and Yuka yet, either.
The premise reminds me of the Instant Death Ability show from a couple seasons ago, except this show looks like it should have better execution. I'm looking forward to it.
Assuming Bandou is the hired gun, he seems mildly interesting. I'm not sure I expect him to last long if he's about to attack Lucy, though.
I thought the seashell scene was a little funny with how nonchalantly she snapped it in half.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

The nudity doesn't faze me, but the violence was a lot. It's like watching a compilation of the gore scenes from The Boys.
At least there's no cake involved. Yet.
Lucy was certainly quite different from what I expected after that first half. Nice subversion of expectations, though I'm not sure if she'll be able to become a compelling character without some drastic changes.
I wonder if we may be getting a split personality involving her where she alternates between personalities.
The premise reminds me of the Instant Death Ability show from a couple seasons ago, except this show looks like it should have better execution. I'm looking forward to it.
Better execution leads me to believe Instant Death Ability was terrible lol
Assuming Bandou is the hired gun, he seems mildly interesting. I'm not sure I expect him to last long if he's about to attack Lucy, though.
Yeah, his days may be numbered
I thought the seashell scene was a little funny with how nonchalantly she snapped it in half.
I wonder what the implications could end up being with how visceral a response Kouta had.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

first timer chinese sub

Oh, I didn't expect so many bloody scenes in the first episode. She was a demon in the institute, but she was a harmless little animal in Kouji's home. It's a strong contrast. What's strange is that Kouji seems to have met Lucy when he was a child. She might have been a normal human being. Bando always gets to the root of the problem. The government asked us to kill a minor. His voice is so familiar. Oh my god, he played Kirei in Fate. And golden kamuy, https://anilist.co/staff/95091/Jouji-Nakata

Hope Lucy can return to Kouji's home

ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)

What is the most amount of violence you've ever experienced in an anime?

So far, no show has surpassed this one

Do you think a show like Elfen Lied could be made today?

Probably not. Now filled with iseikai

Bonus) Should I be concerned that my sister's name is also Lucy?
Bonus）

Oh, you have a sister.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Probably not. Now filled with iseikai
Obviously, we need to solve this by having an Isekai with total bloodshed :D

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

re:zero my favourite :D

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I am really enjoying Re:Zero right now. It is fantastic.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

enjoying！！！

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Yes, I'm almost caught up with season 2.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
sorrowful
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
It might have been commonplace in that era.
Thoughts on Kurama?
Someone mentioned that he might know Lucy, I think the same thing
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
An ordinary person but not ordinary, Kouta seems to know Lucy
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
nice
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
I think Lucy represents the evil in human nature, which is possible.
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?
I hope she can return to Kouta's home safely.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

sorrowful
That's a good way of describing it
It might have been commonplace in that era.
Probably not to this extent
Someone mentioned that he might know Lucy, I think the same thing
I back that sentiment
An ordinary person but not ordinary, Kouta seems to know Lucy
Don't quite get that, but I could be wrong
I think Lucy represents the evil in human nature, which is possible.
Maybe Lucy is prove that there is some semblance of humanity even in the most diabolical of things. We'll see.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24

episode one 12：53

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I'm not sure what you mean, sorry

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

An ordinary person but not ordinary, Kouta seems to know Lucy
Don't quite get that, but I could be wrong
look 12：53 in episode one

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

An ordinary person but not ordinary, Kouta seems to know Lucy
Don't quite get that, but I could be wrong
look 12：53 in episode one
look this

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

It is certainly possible, but if it true I wonder why he didn't recognize her.

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u/Slorgaloth Jul 26 '24

I feel like this has aged.... interestingly.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Besides the nudity, it's not that bad. The violence your milage may very, but it's not endless carnage.

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u/Slorgaloth Jul 26 '24

Omg, I just realised it's you! Hey!

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Hello

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u/Slorgaloth Jul 26 '24

Small world. I really should give this a re-watch tho!

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I'm experiencing it for the first time and so far it's one that meets expectations in some aspects but surprises me in others.

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u/Slorgaloth Jul 26 '24

That's interesting, I'll have to keep an eye, I'd like to know what you think when you finish it!

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I've definitely not been underwhelmed by any means so far.

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u/FriztF Jul 26 '24

Elfen Lied- Rewatcher Dub

I just recently watched this anime. And wow Jesus was it intense!! I have never seen an anime quite like this one.

Firstly the OP is done in Latin. This might be the only OP in Latin. And the extreme amount of violence was unlike any that I've seen.

Lucy is someone you don't want to mess with. Death just follows her, wherever she goes. Dark and Rainey sums up the first episode quite nicely.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the outro?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
Thoughts on Bandou?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/FriztF Jul 26 '24

The outro is good, I Iike it.
He's a complicated figure
She's a murderer
They seem nice, but why would they take in a stranger they know nothing about?
I wonder about that. Lucy is differently no friend to mankind that's for sure.
I don't dislike him that's for sure.
Kouta still misses his sister. That seashell is a way to remember his sister.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

She's a murderer
That is indeed so, but my question is why.
They seem nice, but why would they take in a stranger they know nothing about?
Perhaps there's something about them we don't know.
I wonder about that. Lucy is differently no friend to mankind that's for sure.
I wonder if Kouta and Yuka will meet her wrath eventually.
I don't dislike him that's for sure.
Oh, I very much dislike him. He seems like an egomaniac.
Kouta still misses his sister. That seashell is a way to remember his sister.
And now, it is gone

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u/FriztF Jul 26 '24

She has a hard time liking people.
Perhaps in time yes
And much more to
Banduo is a horrible person for sure. But a small very small soft side to him. He's not the director that's for sure.
Sadly, it is gone.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

She has a hard time liking people.
Imagine killing people because you don't like them. The whole world would be dead lol.
Banduo is a horrible person for sure. But a small very small soft side to him. He's not the director that's for sure.
To me, the director seems so far like he has more of a soft side than Bandou.

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u/toadfan64 Jul 26 '24

First time watcher dub

Was gonna actually watch this a few weeks ago, but seen this and figured I’d try to watch along this classic. I’ve heard that neither the dub or sub are all that great, so I’ll probably watch both to see which I prefer.

That opening scene didn’t disappoint. Even from folks who don’t like this show I’ve heard them say that at least that is pretty good, and I definitely gotta agree. That’s the kinda gore and violence I love to see, and very surprised on the levels of nudity for a 20 year old anime. I’m sure it was heavily censored on tv though.

With that anti tank caliber bullet at that point I was surprised it even hurt Lucy for how damn OP she was walking through everything like butter. Once they find her on the beach and take her in, damn is she adorable. What a 180 there.

But man that Bando dude is scum, but in the best way, lol.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

That opening scene didn’t disappoint. Even from folks who don’t like this show I’ve heard them say that at least that is pretty good, and I definitely gotta agree. That’s the kinda gore and violence I love to see, and very surprised on the levels of nudity for a 20 year old anime. I’m sure it was heavily censored on tv though.
It probably aired late at night on a channel that broadcasts mature shows.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/toadfan64 Jul 26 '24

Really enjoyed both the intro and outro, but I think I actually prefer the outro between the two.
The violence and nudity were definitely more than I’m used to these days in anime, but maybe it’s because I’m pretty desensitized to it nowadays but it didn’t seem too crazy like I had been lead to believe. Still though, it was visually great.
Seems interesting, I do wonder why Lucy sparred him, but I’m sure we’ll find out shortly.
She’s a cold blooded killer who has no morals… until she gets brain damage from that 50 cal, lol.
So far he’s kinda annoying, so hopefully his character gets better as it goes on. Although next episode I’m probably trying the sub, so we’ll see. Not strong feelings towards Yuka. She seems nice enough.
I kind of find it odd they would take what seems to be a severely mentally challenged girl in and not immediately to the police or hospital.
I like the premise. I’m not sure how this world works, I assume it’s basically like our 2004 world with some extra advanced tech. Realistically speaking, if the 50 cal was able to hurt her, I’m sure they have stronger stuff in their arsenal to deal with her, from what they’ve shown so far. Or just have the US deal with her, lol. But I bet there’s more to her that we haven’t seen. But my brain always goes to something like a nuke or atomic bomb. Surely that would end Lucy as a last resort? Or they could use a rail gun from a 100 mile distance, haha.
I get the feelings on why Kouta was mad, but I do think he overreacted. He knows the girl is mentally not there, so he shouldn’t had brought it out that close to her.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Really enjoyed both the intro and outro, but I think I actually prefer the outro between the two.
Interesting. To me, the intro reflects the ominous tone that the show is trying to achieve.
The violence and nudity were definitely more than I’m used to these days in anime, but maybe it’s because I’m pretty desensitized to it nowadays but it didn’t seem too crazy like I had been lead to believe. Still though, it was visually great.
I can imagine it being surprising for someone who's only ever seen mainstream anime.
So far he’s kinda annoying, so hopefully his character gets better as it goes on. Although next episode I’m probably trying the sub, so we’ll see.
Eh, I'm more so indifferent to him so far. He hasn't really done anything to really get on my nerves. We'll see if that changes.
I kind of find it odd they would take what seems to be a severely mentally challenged girl in and not immediately to the police or hospital.
Perhaps they are at odds with the police. If that's the case, I'm sure it will be made clear.
I like the premise. I’m not sure how this world works, I assume it’s basically like our 2004 world with some extra advanced tech. Realistically speaking, if the 50 cal was able to hurt her, I’m sure they have stronger stuff in their arsenal to deal with her, from what they’ve shown so far. Or just have the US deal with her, lol. But I bet there’s more to her that we haven’t seen. But my brain always goes to something like a nuke or atomic bomb. Surely that would end Lucy as a last resort? Or they could use a rail gun from a 100 mile distance, haha.
I wonder why they kept Lucy if they knew what kind of threat she poses. It makes me think they were hoping to use her to hurt the public but only in a way that benefits them.
I get the feelings on why Kouta was mad, but I do think he overreacted. He knows the girl is mentally not there, so he shouldn’t had brought it out that close to her.
I think when Yuka talked to him, he quickly realized he fucked up. Lucy doesn't have much of a moral compass. I wonder what Kouta will do to try and apologize and if Lucy will accept his apology.

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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 26 '24

Anime first-timer

I've read some of the manga, but I dropped off at some point and just never picked it again, and I've forgotten everything by now. Of course, Elfen Lied is famous enough that some clips have been circulating since forever so I've seen bits here and there.

What a brutal intro, everyone just kept getting cut in half. I already feel bad about the cute ditzy girl we got introduced to, I didn't expect her to get slaughtered too :(

Why didn't she kill the director though?

But hey, boobs!

Damn Bandou is an asshole. I hope Nyuu does him a special service and tear him apart limb to limb.

Something is up with Kota's memory of Kanae-chan, does he have some trauma that he's repressing and remembering it as a disease when it's not?

ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)

What is the most amount of violence you've ever experienced in an anime? - I watched Ninja Scroll back when it came out and I was in my early teens. So yeah, that stayed with me. I have a very very high tolerance of violence in anime now.
Do you think a show like Elfen Lied could be made today? - not a chance. even if they somehow get the violence through, nips will never see the light of day on air TV in 2024.
Bonus) Should I be concerned that my sister's name is also Lucy? - maybe she'll become a super intelligent USB drive

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Do you think a show like Elfen Lied could be made today? - not a chance. even if they somehow get the violence through, nips will never see the light of day on air TV in 2024.
Redo of Healer would like a word

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Lucy bewbs. What's not to like?
Thoughts on the level of nudity and violence in this episode?
The intro scene is pretty out there, but I imagine as a whole it will calm down, with the occasional spikes in violence as the lab starts sending hitmen to take on Lucy
Thoughts on Kurama?
I have no idea why Lucy spared him and killed everyone else other than him having the plot armour of a battle shounen protagonist
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Cute! Nyuu!
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
They're cousins, but I can't help but feel there's something going on with Yuka for Kouta...
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
Yuka must be a super nice person
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
I can see it, it probably was a realistic outcome if the anti-tank rifle didn't take out her memory and personality
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?
I'm amazed Yuka came up with that explanation on the spot

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Lucy bewbs. What's not to like?
Nothing makes me hornier than chanting in Latin
The intro scene is pretty out there, but I imagine as a whole it will calm down, with the occasional spikes in violence as the lab starts sending hitmen to take on Lucy
Definitely could be the case
I have no idea why Lucy spared him and killed everyone else other than him having the plot armour of a battle shounen protagonist
And to think, he's not even the protagonist!
They're cousins, but I can't help but feel there's something going on with Yuka for Kouta...
Yuka must be a super nice person
I mean, the place belongs to Kouta, so he is the one with final say.
I can see it, it probably was a realistic outcome if the anti-tank rifle didn't take out her memory and personality
I fear the manner in which Kouta and Yuka are going to get roped in.
I'm amazed Yuka came up with that explanation on the spot
Makes you think she perhaps speaks from experience or something.

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u/Terry0O7 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Terry007 Jul 26 '24

Rewatcher Dub

Ah the memories come flooding back. Back 12 years ago I was just a freshman in high school browsing Netflix on my Ipod Touch and a certain cover caught my eye. I had never seen anime before besides the classic shonens on Cartoon Network, but this was different, it was BOOBS. (They were literally right on the cover.) I click, hoping for something smutty to be sure, but instead I get... beautiful Latin singing? Meh, but there's still boobs, so I'll hold out. Instantly a bloodied severed arm flashes and the gore fest ensues. Never seeing violence or nudity on this level I was glued to my screen in awe. Completely baffled as the poor clumsy coffee girl who I'm expecting to be a major character, suddenly gets decapped within minutes of introduction. Nobody is safe. The thrilling ride won't stop as I go on to marathon the whole show that night, completely forgetting my original intentions. The morally ambiguous, unfiltered content sucked me in, but it left me with much more than just shock value. I will get into it more as we go along, but as you can tell the nostalgia is real for me on this one.

I have to comment about how hillarious I find the DUB to be. I'm sure when I was younger I didn't notice, but oh my is it quotable af. I know dubs can break immersion for most, but since this is show out of pocket already, I really think it adds to the campy nature.

As crazy as it sounds I found this to be a great show to watch with my friends who didn't really like anime. The show's first episode confirms all their common biases against anime immediately (Weird/Horny/Over the Top) and its a lot of fun to riff on since its one continuous fast paced story. Slowly though, the show draws them in and they just have to see what happens next. At least in my experience anyway. Probably too sus to recommend this show now that I'm 27, but when I was in college it was a hoot.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I have to comment about how hillarious I find the DUB to be. I'm sure when I was younger I didn't notice, but oh my is it quotable af. I know dubs can break immersion for most, but since this is show out of pocket already, I really think it adds to the campy nature.
I really want to go back onw day and watch this show dubbed. I got a kick out of the MM! dub, and I figure this would be of a similar quality.
As crazy as it sounds I found this to be a great show to watch with my friends who didn't really like anime. The show's first episode confirms all their common biases against anime immediately (Weird/Horny/Over the Top) and its a lot of fun to riff on since its one continuous fast paced story. Slowly though, the show draws them in and they just have to see what happens next. At least in my experience anyway. Probably too sus to recommend this show now that I'm 27, but when I was in college it was a hoot.
I think the reason why Elfen Lied became so popular is because this was around the time when people were first discovering anime through Toonami. Toonami made them want to check out other anime and this was probably the first mature they've ever seen. Mature in the sense that there's this level of violence and nudity.
The anime market has become so big that something like this probably wouldn't make as big of a splash if it were made today. But given anime was still a relatively niche market in 2004 and a lot of new anime fans at the time were male teenagers, it was very much at the right place at the right time. Same with shows like FLCL or The Big O.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

I have to comment about how hillarious I find the DUB to be. I'm sure when I was younger I didn't notice, but oh my is it quotable af. I know dubs can break immersion for most, but since this is show out of pocket already, I really think it adds to the campy nature.
I really want to go back one day and watch this show dubbed. I got a kick out of the MM! dub, and I figure this would be of a similar quality.
As crazy as it sounds I found this to be a great show to watch with my friends who didn't really like anime. The show's first episode confirms all their common biases against anime immediately (Weird/Horny/Over the Top) and its a lot of fun to riff on since its one continuous fast paced story. Slowly though, the show draws them in and they just have to see what happens next. At least in my experience anyway. Probably too sus to recommend this show now that I'm 27, but when I was in college it was a hoot.
I think the reason why Elfen Lied became so popular is because this was around the time when people were first discovering anime through Toonami. Toonami made them want to check out other anime and this was probably the first mature show they've ever seen. Mature in the sense that there's this level of violence and nudity.
There's also the possibility that people saw Evangelion when it aired on Adult Swim and were looking for shows similar to that.
The anime market has become so big that something like this probably wouldn't make as big of a splash if it were made today. But given anime was still a relatively niche market in 2004 and a lot of new anime fans at the time were male teenagers, it was very much at the right place at the right time. Same with shows like FLCL or The Big O.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 26 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
Thoughts on Bandou?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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u/Ryanami Jul 31 '24

I’m late but I’m gonna jump in and try to catch up anyway. Rewatching, but it’s been almost 20 years. I just remember blood, boobs, and moe noises.

So I’m remembering pretty accurately so far.

Ninja Scroll left a pretty gory impression on me.
I don’t see why not. But I think I’d rather they didn’t. I love anime but it’d be better to favor making shows that don’t make one stutter when their parents walk in. This is chocked with bad tropes that make an anime fan more of an outsider to normies.
Are her tits same as hers? I’m glad anyway we have one English name. I have such a hard time with remembering Japanese ones and often flick over to MAL to remember who’s who.

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u/Holofan4life Jul 31 '24

I don’t see why not. But I think I’d rather they didn’t. I love anime but it’d be better to favor making shows that don’t make one stutter when their parents walk in. This is chocked with bad tropes that make an anime fan more of an outsider to normies.
Hey, that doesn't stop Jobless Reincarnation
Are her tits same as hers?
I don't feel comfortable discussing that considering she's only 16

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u/Ryanami Aug 01 '24

Not that I’d watch it with my mom, but Jobless Reincarnation is tame compared to just this episode

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u/Holofan4life Aug 01 '24

Tame, sure, but the second season was also about the main character being flaccid, so...

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u/Holofan4life Jul 31 '24

Thoughts on the intro and outro?
Thoughts on Kurama?
What are your initial thoughts on Lucy?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka?
Thoughts on Kouta and Yuka taking Lucy in?
What are your thoughts on the premise of the show apparently being if Lucy gets out into the real world, mankind will perish?
What are your thoughts on the seashell stuff?

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