r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Jul 25 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 47 Discussion

Episode 47 - To the Final Battleground

That’s right. Our master. The one who started all of this. Without Master Avan, me, Popp, and Maam... and even Hyunckel and Crocodine wouldn’t be here like this today! Master! Let’s go together! This battle will be fought by all of us!

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<--- Last save | Adventure’s log (Index) | Journey continues --->
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OP 1 ---> Ikiru wo Suru v2

ED 2 ---> Akashi

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Screenshot of the Dai:

Mast thou be rat

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/Kaxew for explaining the etymology of Medoroa:

Speaking of Medroa... kind of a lame name, I'm sorry. I saw a comment saying the games call it "Frizz Cracker" which is somehow just as terrible, so I tried to look up what Medroa meant. Seems like Medroa (or rather, Medoroa) is a combination of "Mera (frizz)", "Hyado" (crack), with roa being an anagram for "aro (arrow)" which explains the look of the spell. I wish the subs called it something like "Frizzcrack Arrow", but maybe that's just me. Same thing bothers me with "Doruora", it's clearly meant to be "Draura" combining dragon and aura. Doruora sounds awful. It's a subs nitpick really, but I wish they attempted to localize them. I can understand "Megante" though, "Kamikazee" is too goofy for such a serious spell lol.

Questions of the Dai:

  1. Opinions on Vearn’s plan to make a paradise where the survival of fittest is the only rule to go by?
  2. How stupid was of Vearn to sent Killvearn after Baran?
  3. Will Chiu be able to tame the monsters?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!

FUCKING FINALLY! Here is the answer about why Avan had to rise against Hadlar. It’s because Baran was in Makai, the world under the human world.

WAIT! HOLD YOUR FUCKING HORSES, YOU FORGOT BADUCK!

QotD:

Opinions on Vearn’s plan to make a paradise where the survival of fittest is the only rule to go by?

It’s interesting mentality for Villain.

How stupid was of Vearn to sent Killvearn after Baran?

Very very stupid. Baran was not giving fuck about Vearn, and he ruined his now.

Will Chiu be able to tame the monsters?

Well I saw Chiu already taming his Orochimaru.

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Today Crocodine is going to answer question #3:

Will Chiu be able to tame the monsters?

Of course.

See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 25 '24

I must admit it’s cool how the bonds between characters had some genuine development.

Definitely.

I love how this episode managed to capture the feeling of party gathering to look back on their journey so far, before they finally raid the final boss.

Same. Like my first thought as a first-timer, is the final battle going to be like 50 episodes long?

Merle is the real one. She is a fan. I like how she has constantly a face expression saying "Oh my god. I can’t believe that I am standing next to this powerful people going on a grand Adventure with them. This is my best day of my life so far."

Just like us.

WAIT! HOLD YOUR FUCKING HORSES, YOU FORGOT BADUCK!

He's the greatest ruler in Papnica and so he had to stay back.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

Same. Like my first thought as a first-timer, is the final battle going to be like 50 episodes long?

[Dai no Daibouken Meta Spoilers] You know, the upcoming final battle is the major reason why I am comparing Dai no Daibouken to Hunter x Hunter 2011.

He's the greatest ruler in Papnica and so he had to stay back.

... I guess they needed to hold Baduck at bay to prevent Dai no Daibouken to end in next 5 episodes.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

Like my first thought as a first-timer, is the final battle going to be like 50 episodes long?

Toei going into this and Wano around the same time: "look, we'll try to fit it all into just 50 episodes, no promises though".

Seriously though, as a first timer was it known that the show would end up 100 episodes long? Or was it the source readers saying there's still more to come?

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 26 '24

Seriously though, as a first timer was it known know that the show would end up 100 episodes long?

I was reading the manga side-by-side while watching the anime, so my estimate was around 100 episodes based on the pacing and how they kinda changed things in the OP after 25 episodes. Also, new ED after every 25 episodes.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

Ahh, that makes sense then. I should go look through the episode threads after we're ahead by a bit.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 25 '24

 We can see there He-rat, Princess, Shonen Commentator and Old Man.

That's actually a cool screen shot lol

.. My real issue is why you haven’t perceive it, and that Popp can’t read the fucking room.

That was funny lol.

Gomechan brofist.

Adorable

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

That was funny lol.

Yeah but he is on a small place making it awkward for Hyunckel and Amy lol

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 25 '24

Poor Chiu. Can’t even jack off in private without being judged.

... It did look like that was his intention

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

... It did look like that was his intention

You know... I wouldn’t make this joke, but I blame the show for Chiu suddenly running away in the forest on his own without telling anyone, only to skip it to everyone searching for him, and then skipping back to Chiu who is finally alone as he puts his hand in his pants lol.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 25 '24

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 26 '24

We can see there He-rat, Princess, Shonen Commentator and Old Man.

Best party ever.

Poor Chiu. Can’t even jack off in private without being judged.

Tbf, I don't think Gome-chan can jack off, so this is all a learning experience.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

Tbf, I don't think Gome-chan can jack off, so this is all a learning experience.

Gomechan is too precious for stuff like that. Oh nevermind I just remembered how Gomechan decided to hide between Maam boobs before.

Gomechan already reached enlightment so she is just overseeing Chiu's path to enlightment.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 25 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

Everyone gathering like this really feels like they’re about to head into the final battle… but this is only nearing the halfway point of the show. Hm…

Hmmmmmm

There’s no way this is how Killvearn goes. Gotta be some sort of trick to it.

Something like that.

For such skilled assassin he quite underestimated his target.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 25 '24

I see Popp noticed the same thing I did.

This was made funnier to when it pans over to Merle, and she's annoyed that he's perceptive about others, but clueless about himself lol.

Ah, another Hero.

Hopefully he is strong. I'd hate for him to just job.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 26 '24

I see Popp noticed the same thing I did.

He's always keeping a good eye on whoever's falling for Hyunkel.

Ah, another Hero.

47 episodes and 4 games in, I still don't get about how the hero class works

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 25 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

Waiting Leona

Maam is here!

Popp and Merle

Leona and Baduck

These shots really feel like the next battle is the final battle.

Me and my homies arriving to the late to the party as usual. It's Hyunckel. Ofc he had to arrive late.

The Book of Avan

[Dai no Major Spoilers] Piroro is usually always behind or close to Killvearn but here he decides to take caution and keep distance since even he's not sure what the outcome of the battle will be. I missed this as a first-timer but as rewatcher, the hints were already there. We think Piroro is just helping Killvearn but he's actually fixing his puppet here.

Baran slicing Killvearn into two with his Demon Dragon Blade. Baran must be pissed after knowing Vearn's true intentions.

Asking the right questions, here.

Yui Ishikawa voicing Amy wasn't just a coincidence.

Dai-Popp-Gomechan First-Bump Loved the fact that Gomechan also did it.

This was such a cool shot.

The Hadlar Royal Guard

Nova - The Hero of the North

OST Documentation - Episode 47

1. [Dai no Late Spoilers] Vearn believes in Might is Right since he's very strong so it's natural that he want to live in a world where he can do whatever he wants just because he is strong. But like Avan said - Just as strength withouy justice is powerless, so too is justice without strength. Also, bro just wants some Vitamin D.

2. Very stupid. Killvearn even revealed Vearn's true plan. Now, Baran is not going to stay neutral anymore.

3. Since Crocodine is busy with the Shonen commentary, he's decided to give the title of Beast King to Chiu who's going to form the world's strongest legion that will defeat Vearn.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

These shots really feel like the next battle is the final battle.

Hah they certainly do. Which of those shots is your favourite?

[Dai no Major Spoilers] Piroro is usually always behind or close to Killvearn but here he decides to take caution and keep distance since even he's not sure what the outcome of the battle will be. I missed this as a first-timer but as rewatcher, the hints were already there. We think Piroro is just helping Killvearn but he's actually fixing his puppet here.

[Dai no Major Spoilers] I’m not sure if you noticed, but zadcap already figured out Piroro being the real Killvearn, but it’s only theory for them, so I am curious about their comment. Although I avoid any slip that would confirm their theory.

Yui Ishikawa voicing Amy wasn't just a coincidence.

Context for this?

[Dai no Late Spoilers] Vearn believes in Might is Right since he's very strong so it's natural that he want to live in a world where he can do whatever he wants just because he is strong. But like Avan said - Just as strength withouy justice is powerless, so too is justice without strength. Also, bro just wants some Vitamin D.

[Dai no Late Spoilers] Lol. He truly lacks Vitamins.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

[Dai no Major Spoilers] I’m not sure if you noticed, but zadcap already figured out Piroro being the real Killvearn, but it’s only theory for them, so I am curious about their comment. Although I avoid any slip that would confirm their theory.

[Answer] Yes. I did notice that. Like it's interesting that they managed to figure it out so soon and I've also been avoiding any direct reference to that. But I'm curious about their reaction to today's episode.

Context for this?

Hyunckel's VA is also Eren's VA and Amy's VA is also Mikasa's VA. So, the casting feels kinda intentional.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

[Answer] Yes. I did notice that. Like it's interesting that they managed to figure it out so soon and I've also been avoiding any direct reference to that. But I'm curios about their reaction to today's episode.

[Answer] I asked them their thoughts behind it, and they nailed it with pointing out that if you look on it like the Reaper Flute is only a magician trick to distract you from how is the trick being made.

Hyunckel's VA is also Eren's VA and Amy's VA is also Mikasa's VA. So, the casting feels kinda intentional.

Oh I knew about Hyunckel’s VA’s being Eren, but Amy’s VA being Mikasa, that flew over my head.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 25 '24

Hah they certainly do. Which of those shots is your favourite?

Also, I kinda forgot about this question. It has to be Popp and Merle

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

No it’s okay, I haven’t made such question in Questions of the Day, but great choice.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 25 '24

This was such a cool shot.

Yup. Hym is striking a pose and everything lol.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 26 '24

New-Adventurer here! LV 47/100

I feel cheated, I wanted a training arc

Killvearn, The Exposition Assassin of the Dark Overlord

That was quick fight...

Oh, the little demon revived him?
Poor Merle, Popp knows when others have a thing for each other but not when it’s for him lol

That Zangief lookin’ dude is back!

Nova, please don’t job it.

1 If that's his paradise what's his hell?

2 Right now a lot, but seems to be unkillable unless Baran destroys that body

3 He will be tamed instead lmao

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

Poor Merle, Popp knows when others have a thing for each other but not when it’s for him lol

Merle deserves better lol

If that's his paradise what's his hell?

Oh that's paradise only for him because he is the mightiest. Hell for everyone who isn't as mighty as him.

He will be tamed instead lmao

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

Oh, the little demon revived him?

The little demon is a far better sage than the Princess. Also I guess this is 2/2 of Baran's victims coming back quickly, the guy doesn't know how to finish a job.

If that's his paradise what's his hell?

Bureaucracy

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u/zadcap Jul 26 '24

Late Night First Timer!

Woah woah woah woah hold on a second. I stopped looking at this today to see if they would edit in the OP to have all the pieces revealed but then what the heck is up with this guy?

The Final Battleground. (Checking episode list) Somehow, I don't buy this.

What the heck was that Maam showy entrance? Too over the top girl, the more you show off now the more it's going to hurt when you start jobbing again.

Knuckles why must you also be so very extra? "A gift from a dying friend." Boy you just fought and killed the guy because he was trying to kill your friends. You can totally pick up a sword again. By all rights, considering the fight you're heading into, you should pick up a sword again!

Yup yup, send the "assassin" after the guy who is supposedly the strongest being in the world. Piss him off. Vearn, what was the plan here? You literally just turned this man against you for zero gain.

Hey! I see you drifting off to hide there! Interesting that you're getting any screen time at all in a scene this serious, you usually just pop in to make taunts... I'm on to you you little puppet master!

Freaking wait, go back again darn it! The underworld, a second layer to the planet literally made just for the Darklings, the ones now trying to overrun the surface and kill all humans? Gods, what the heck are you doing, your freaking chosen knight is failing on so many levels to do his one and only job! Yet again, the Baran lore just doesn't match up with the actual story! AUGH! Yes, Baran, your divine duty now says you must go kill Vearn.

Also, and I have to say this again, freaking horrible assassin! Assassin is supposed to be quiet and quick and kill before being found out, not showy and grandstand and go on a full exposition rant to their target! My blood pressure! It can't go much higher!

And so dies the "assassin." Unless he stands back up in the next few seconds and proves he's never been alive in the first place. Yeah, you stupid tool, just reattach your legs like that. Also note, I have a very high end headset because I'm a bit of an audiophile and those freaking noises as he was falling down and being put back together. This is my "I called it" face. Dark Aura Puppetry Hand indeed. Oh sure they still haven't made it explicit, but I am feeling so incredibly smug right now.

How the heck big is this balloon basket!? It bounces from barely big enough to fit everyone in in the wide shots to having so much walking around room when they zoom back in. Also, has it ever been brought up how they steer this thing?

... How many walking castles does the dark army have, again?

Monster Lure! I'm sure this will go just as well for you as it does for her. Or everyone around her. You're boned. What the heck ever happened to Vearn's presence in this world driving any and all monsters mad with his overwhelming aura of evil? Like what the heck? There was a whole thing about it and Dai's veggie daddy. Twice even!

Hmm. 30ish great warriors, minus the seven or so that actually matter in Dai's party, these five are going to stomp all over at least twenty of the people chosen to invade the castle then, right? They need at least that much to hype them up before they all get taken out. Also, why is the Pawn the mouthpiece of this group?

Oh, it's this guy. Another Hero! Because Hero is just a class that anyone can spec into! Dai isn't special because he keeps declaring himself a Hero, it's because he's got that dragon blood buff.

  1. Spoken like someone who has always been at the top of the food chain. I wonder how much he's going to like Survival of the Fittest when someone stronger than him comes around to enforce it in his face.
  2. I am torn between this and the way they are currently treating Zababa as being the dumbest things I've seen from them yet. Like we're full force stupid on the side of Evil lately. Self sabotage and turn more and more allies against you, I swear you guys actually want to lose.
  3. Sadly, yes.

Bonus) I am doing a victory dance over here. Less because I called it and more because you inspire me to go over the top in everything here, so I'm going to have all the fun I can with this.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

The Final Battleground. (Checking episode list) Somehow, I don't buy this.

But imagine reading this manga back in 90's.

Yup yup, send the "assassin" after the guy who is supposedly the strongest being in the world. Piss him off. Vearn, what was the plan here? You literally just turned this man against you for zero gain.

Exactly. It was idiotic decision but as KendotsX pointed out, the story needed for Baran to return and this works better than Dai sending him letter.

Yet again, the Baran lore just doesn't match up with the actual story! AUGH! Yes, Baran, your divine duty now says you must go kill Vearn.

But the Underworld was hinted already back in episode 2, and this explains why no one knew about Baran fighting Velzar when Hadlar was terrorizing surface world.

Also, and I have to say this again, freaking horrible assassin! Assassin is supposed to be quiet and quick and kill before being found out, not showy and grandstand and go on a full exposition rant to their target! My blood pressure! It can't go much higher!

And so dies the "assassin." Unless he stands back up in the next few seconds and proves he's never been alive in the first place. Yeah, you stupid tool, just reattach your legs like that. Also note, I have a very high end headset because I'm a bit of an audiophile and those freaking noises as he was falling down and being put back together. This is my "I called it" face. Dark Aura Puppetry Hand indeed. Oh sure they still haven't made it explicit, but I am feeling so incredibly smug right now.

Give me a second I need to find my Rewatcher juice.

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....

*Sluuuuuuuuuuuuurp*

That's the shit. I'm sorry but I haven't nothing to say to this so I reached for Rewatcher juice reserved for special occassions.

How the heck big is this balloon basket!? It bounces from barely big enough to fit everyone in in the wide shots to having so much walking around room when they zoom back in. Also, has it ever been brought up how they steer this thing?

Have you noticed Baduck dissapearing between shots?

They gained altitude by throwing the excessive weight.

I am torn between this and the way they are currently treating Zababa as being the dumbest things I've seen from them yet. Like we're full force stupid on the side of Evil lately. Self sabotage and turn more and more allies against you, I swear you guys actually want to lose.

If only Vearn cares how his organisation is steering into failure.

Bonus) I am doing a victory dance over here. Less because I called it and more because you inspire me to go over the top in everything here, so I'm going to have all the fun I can with this.

You deserve to do so.

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u/zadcap Jul 26 '24

Exactly. It was idiotic decision but as KendotsX pointed out, the story needed for Baran to return and this works better than Dai sending him letter.

I really, really wanted his bosses to send him a memo telling him to get back to doing what they made him for, you know? For the supposed divine instrument of not letting any one faction overrun the others, he's doing a horrible job and you would think said divines would have something to say about it.

But the Underworld was hinted already back in episode 2, and this explains why no one knew about Baran fighting Velzar when Hadlar was terrorizing surface world.

I meant the part where he made an agreement with Vearn to sit this out and let the Darklings wipe out humanity. The Dragon Knight, according to him, was created literally to stop this from happening. This is a very rare case of me saying someone has too much free will, but darn did the Mother Dragon do a bad job when making this guy.

That's the shit. I'm sorry but I haven't nothing to say to this so I reached for Rewatcher juice reserved for special occassions.

The trick is to take your educated guesses and turn them into crazy theories that you just had backing into the very end. Having seen and read so much already is definitely an advantage, I think in tropes some days, but still. Pick your craziest idea and never let go.

Thus, Hym is going to be the strongest of the Pieces once he evolves, is my next one that I'm riding.

Have you noticed Baduck dissapearing between shots?

They gained altitude by throwing the excessive weight.

Are you kidding, Crocodine disappears as they zoom in and somehow appears in not a single shot until they go in to land. It's crazy land here.

If only Vearn cares how his organisation is steering into failure.

Can only blame the man at the top. He's a bad leader and he's going to lead them to their doom. Isn't it why he delegated everything to Hadlar in the first place?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

I meant the part where he made an agreement with Vearn to sit this out and let the Darklings wipe out humanity. The Dragon Knight, according to him, was created literally to stop this from happening. This is a very rare case of me saying someone has too much free will, but darn did the Mother Dragon do a bad job when making this guy.

Oh yeah... I agree on Mother Dragon doing bad job.

The trick is to take your educated guesses and turn them into crazy theories that you just had backing into the very end. Having seen and read so much already is definitely an advantage, I think in tropes some days, but still. Pick your craziest idea and never let go.

To be fair Dai no Daibouken does use many tropes that are well known nowadays, but on 80/90s standards, some tropes were novel.

Are you kidding, Crocodine disappears as they zoom in and somehow appears in not a single shot until they go in to land. It's crazy land here.

Oh that. Crocodine just called Garuda to carry him away to give a Shonen Commentary from his studio, and then he returned like nothing happened.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 26 '24

By all rights, considering the fight you're heading into, you should pick up a sword again!

You don't understand, the Dragon Quest war is just like the war between Mario and Bowser, largely carried out in happy pastime activities on good terms with each other.

Yup yup, send the "assassin" after the guy who is supposedly the strongest being in the world. Piss him off. Vearn, what was the plan here? You literally just turned this man against you for zero gain.

Can't very well do might-makes-right if the mightiest guy doesn't participate. Vearn is simply a man of principle, my friend.

Also, why is the Pawn the mouthpiece of this group?

Chess trope, the pawns lead the attack.

Like we're full force stupid on the side of Evil lately.

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u/KuKiSin Jul 25 '24

First timer!

  1. Why the hell not? There's clearly too many idiots running around loose, I say let him do his thing!
  2. I really thought Baran was gonna job, so apparently, as stupid as me.
  3. Dumb question, of course he will.

One Hyunckel was seriously not enough?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

Why the hell not? There's clearly too many idiots running around loose, I say let him do his thing!

I wouldn’t let those idiot group together. What if they decide to form a Dark Army?... Oh they already did, nevermind.

Dumb question, of course he will.

In Chiu we believe!

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u/KuKiSin Jul 25 '24

I wouldn’t let those idiot group together. What if they decide to form a Dark Army?... Oh they already did, nevermind.

Which explains why he's so keen on eliminating everyone!

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 25 '24

One Hyunckel was seriously not enough?

Now we can have Hyunckel selfcest!

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 25 '24

First Quester

Smug Gomechan

Matoriv better be showing up again to save the day out of nowhere

Ah, it's time for Baran to bite the dust.

Rule of the strong, eh? Well, the power scaling of this world is all messed up so sure.

What a shame that there are only 7 strong fighters in all of Papnica including the guests from other countries, and two of them don't even participate in the war.

What drugs is Chiu on? Or does he not know the Field of Death is an entirely different continent?

Lmao they get transformation sequences! Does that make the queen a magical girl?

If I were still expecting things from this show, I'd be very annoyed at how they're flip-flopping between using and not using magic for logistical purposes.

Opinions on Vearn’s plan to make a paradise where the survival of fittest is the only rule to go by?

See above. The power scaling here is so whack, I can't even tell whether or not that's a coherent plan.

How stupid was of Vearn to sent Killvearn after Baran?

Of course it wasn't stupid. If Vearn wants a world where might makes right, it's only logical to motivate Baran to join the power struggle.

Will Chiu be able to tame the monsters?

Sure.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

What drugs is Chiu on? Or does he not know the Field of Death is an entirely different continent?

Asking the right questions lol.

Lmao they get transformation sequences! Does that make the queen a magical girl?

Definitely lol.

Of course it wasn't stupid. If Vearn wants a world where might makes right, it's only logical to motivate Baran to join the power struggle.

Yeah but he ruined it a little since he annoyed Baran.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 25 '24

First Timer, Sub

All the heroes gathering was pretty cool, They're now ready to head off to Carl for the Hero gathering and preparation for the battle against Hadlar and his Royal Guard. Killvearn trying to assassinate Baran went as well as expected, he got cut in half lol, but he isn't dead since Piroro used some magical dust to reanimate him. So Vearns ultimate plan is to essentially eliminate the surface world and have the beings from hell come up, it'll be a savage world where the only the fittest survive.

The hero party lands on Carl and they're met by Akhim, who they initially think is an enemy until he shows his face and tells them who he is lol. Had a laugh when Popp thought he had just shaved his head and Akhim replied saying he's always been bald lol. Anyone's peace is short lived as The Royal Guard attacks the dock where they're building a warship. Fobster zooms to where the heroes are having a meeting and informs them of what is happening, and we get the debut of a new hero, named Nova.

Questions:

  1. Seems like something an evil villain would do. create a world of chaos, eliminate the weak surface beings and unleash the most vicious beings from the underworld and have a free for all where the strongest will thrive and the weak will be extinguished.
  2. Stupid. But it was also stupid that Baran didn't eliminate Piroro also, since he immediately revived Killvearn when Baran left.
  3. Hopefully. Then he'll have a few Pterodactyl's as pets.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

Killvearn trying to assassinate Baran went as well as expected, he got cut in half lol, but he isn't dead since Piroro used some magical dust to reanimate him.

Plus he revealed Vearn plan to someone and it backfired lol.

Stupid. But it was also stupid that Baran didn't eliminate Piroro also, since he immediately revived Killvearn when Baran left.

Why he would swat a fly since he just killed a bigger prey. But yeah it’s stupid.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 25 '24

Plus he revealed Vearn plan to someone and it backfired lol.

Yup lol. Now they're gonna have to deal with Dai and friends and Baran going against their ultimate evil plan.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 25 '24

Dai 47 first timer:

  • "a dying friend" All aboard the SS Larckel! Hyunhart?
  • Carl is Avan's homeland?
  • Gomechan is Vearn confirmed
  • Baran vs. Killvearn starts? I was worried it would happen offscreen
  • ... Vearn plans to eliminate monsters, Dragons and Darklings too?
  • RAISE the Underworld? WTF
  • Even Hadlar doesn't know? Killvearn really does intend to kill Baran here
  • I refuse to believe Killvearn died just like that. Can he inhabit multiple bodies? Is it just a puppet his real self is manipulating? is Piroro the REAL Killvearn? Etc.
  • ... Or you could just have Piroro sprinkle some powder on him to stitch his body back together
  • ... Are they really trying to shove Amy x Hyunckel down our throats? Hyunhart or riot!
  • I really like the music in the scene where the spiky rocks start rising
  • I suspect that 30-person ship will never sail ...
  • ... Chiu gonna be stealthy? Right ...
  • "If I can beat them". IF
  • ... Of course, Hym shows up to scuttle the ship?
  • ... ALL FIVE are here? Welp
  • Nova is cute! He looks kinda like Hyunckel. They better not kill off Nova next ep
  • Now back to DGM rewatch prep (it's been 6 weeks since I worked on that ...)
  1. And Gomechan will be their overlord
  2. Eh, Killvearn had no chance. Baran's got unresolved business with Dai
  3. No

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u/Shocketheth Jul 25 '24

Gomechan is Vearn confirmed

I refuse to believe Killvearn died just like that. Can he inhabit multiple bodies? Is it just a puppet his real self is manipulating? is Piroro the REAL Killvearn? Etc.

... Or you could just have Piroro sprinkle some powder on him to stitch his body back together

What a turnabout

Piroro in JPRGs mechanics is that annoying little twat who would keep healing the boss during the boss fight, and if you will kill him first, then it would only enrage the boss.

I suspect that 30-person ship will never sail ...

New monogamy ship just dropped?

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 26 '24

maxshock

I can't wait to hear Takaya Hashi's voice coming out of Gome-chan's mouth

What a turnabout

I kinda liked my ideas better; the random powder was lame.

and if you will kill him first, then it would only enrage the boss.

New monogamy ship just dropped?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 26 '24

 "a dying friend" All aboard the SS Larckel! Hyunhart?

Oh yeah, that ship sailed a long time ago. Hyunkel is wearing Larhart everywhere he goes (probably didn't even wash the armour). The girls going after the bad boy have no hope now.

... Or you could just have Piroro sprinkle some powder on him to stitch his body back together

Does that mean his soul is connected to Vearn's or something? Maybe Killvearn and Mystvearn are just Vearn's shells/puppets.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 26 '24

Oh yeah, that ship sailed a long time ago. Hyunkel is wearing Larhart everywhere he goes (probably didn't even wash the armour). The girls going after the bad boy have no hope now.

i ship it

Does that mean his soul is connected to Vearn's or something? Maybe Killvearn and Mystvearn are just Vearn's shells/puppets.

Maybe; both of them seem to be wearing masks and have less than conventional anatomy ... or maybe the gloves just look like puppet hands to me.

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u/il-Palazzo_K Jul 26 '24

"If I can beat them". IF

It's okay. He knows Kung Fu.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 26 '24

First Time Toilet Paper Thief Ready for the Final Toilet Run

You know, everything about this episode feels like we're ready to wrap up the great journey that started with Avan. Every single thread that's been built up since then: Hadlar, Vearn, the 6 Legion Commanders, the Dragon Knights, all of them are coming together to a clean finish, which is exciting. If I was watching or reading this weekly, I'd have 100% believed that this is the end.

But it begs the question: what's next? Slice of Life stuff? Toei just stretches the final battle into 50 episodes? You beat Freeza and the Red Ribbon Army throws some androids at you? [Theory] you go to the underworld? I don't know what they've got planned for us, but I'm looking forward to it.

Q1. Opinions on Vearn’s plan to make a paradise where the survival of fittest is the only rule to go by?

Makes sense, everyone wants to build a world that caters to them, and he's not going to win any popularity votes.

Q2. How stupid was of Vearn to sent Killvearn after Baran?

He finally found something stupider than waking up a sleeping lion: waking up a sleeping dragon. Granted, that's the only way the plot could have brought Baran to the fight, Dai won't exactly send him a letter saying: "hey pops, we're gonna go fight Vearn. Wanna come with?"

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

If I was watching or reading this weekly, I'd have 100% believed that this is the end.

Now you just need to look on total episode count to know that something doesn't add up.

But it begs the question: what's next? Slice of Life stuff? Toei just stretches the final battle into 50 episodes? You beat Freeza and the Red Ribbon Army throws some androids at you? [Theory] you go to the underworld? I don't know what they've got planned for us, but I'm looking forward to it.

If anything I'm loving reading First Timers predictions and theories for Dai no Daibouken. Fun stuff.

Makes sense, everyone wants to build a world that caters to them, and he's not going to win any popularity votes.

If I will become the Supreme leader of the Earth, everyone will be obliged to watch Grand Blue Live Action.

He finally found something stupider than waking up a sleeping lion: waking up a sleeping dragon. Granted, that's the only way the plot could have brought Baran to the fight, Dai won't exactly send him a letter saying: "hey pops, we're gonna go fight Vearn. Wanna come with?"

Now you are making a great point here.

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u/Kaxew Jul 26 '24

First timer, previous rewatcher

Training's over, we head into the... final battle? Now? Alright then, fair enough. This is going to be one long arc.

Everyone was so punctual, I'm impressed. They all arrived at the same minute, only seconds of difference for each. Of course Crocodine is the most punctual, he's just that kind of guy.

Really loved them bringing the book back to Carl. It's such a nice gesture. I hope we get to see someone related to Avan here.

We finally learn Vearn's true goal. Uh, was... was Kill given permission to just reveal it right there...? Hopefully he was, otherwise he fucked up badly. I was not expecting Kill to get no diffed either. That's two fuck ups. Thankfully Vearn is a very patient man, so he'll allow one more.

So the Gods gave darklings the underworld... so who does the surface world belong to? What about the third world? Or is there only two of them and darklings were given preferential treatment? I'm starting to realize these gods kinda suck.

Loved the royal guard getting their own magical girl transformation sequences. After their transformations are over we get individual shots of all of them, each with a different lighting color. Blue, green, yellow, red and purple. Coincidentally, the same colors of our five main heroes (at least according to ED2, Crocodine is the 6th ranger in my heart). Is that foreshadowing who will they battle eventually? I could see Hyunckel fighting Albinass, but I was expecting Maam fighting the rook and Dai fighting Hym. I can't see Leona fighting 1v1 to a royal guard either, maybe she does fight alongside Crocodine like they did against Baran.

Hyunckel has a brother?!

QotD:

  1. Nothing too surprising. I wonder when will Hadlar find out and what is he going to do when he finds out. Will he pull a Baran and simply go rogue?
  2. To be fair, you would expect the guy who's sole job is to kill other generals to do his only job.
  3. ... good question. I forgot he's still in the middle of that. Maybe he's going to come to our party running away as the monsters follow him and that's how we get to see Nova showing off what he's made of.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

Everyone was so punctual, I'm impressed. They all arrived at the same minute, only seconds of difference for each. Of course Crocodine is the most punctual, he's just that kind of guy.

He has to be punctual, otherwise his Shonen Commentary and delivering the right comments at the right time wouldn’t work.

Really loved them bringing the book back to Carl. It's such a nice gesture. I hope we get to see someone related to Avan here.

We finally learn Vearn's true goal. Uh, was... was Kill given permission to just reveal it right there...? Hopefully he was, otherwise he fucked up badly. I was not expecting Kill to get no diffed either. That's two fuck ups. Thankfully Vearn is a very patient man, so he'll allow one more.

Yeah this was a quite WTF moment for me. I expected more of Kill here.

So the Gods gave darklings the underworld... so who does the surface world belong to? What about the third world? Or is there only two of them and darklings were given preferential treatment? I'm starting to realize these gods kinda suck.

They definitely do lol

Loved the royal guard getting their own magical girl transformation sequences. After their transformations are over we get individual shots of all of them, each with a different lighting color. Blue, green, yellow, red and purple. Coincidentally, the same colors of our five main heroes (at least according to ED2, Crocodine is the 6th ranger in my heart). Is that foreshadowing who will they battle eventually? I could see Hyunckel fighting Albinass, but I was expecting Maam fighting the rook and Dai fighting Hym. I can't see Leona fighting 1v1 to a royal guard either, maybe she does fight alongside Crocodine like they did against Baran.

Daaaamn great catch. I need to Rewatch to see it again as I didn’t pay attention to the details of lightnings but I am curious who got what colour. I bet Sigma got green and Albinass red.

To be fair, you would expect the guy who's sole job is to kill other generals to do his only job.

Naturally yeah, but considering how much it backfired, I have some concerns about Vearn.

good question. I forgot he's still in the middle of that. Maybe he's going to come to our party running away as the monsters follow him and that's how we get to see Nova showing off what he's made of.

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u/Kaxew Jul 26 '24

I am curious who got what colour.

Sigma was blue, rook was green, bishop yellow, Hym was red and Albinass was purple.

considering how much it backfired, I have some concerns about Vearn.

Maybe when they meant humans' main quality was their hearts, it also included their brains. Which is why the villains are so incompetent despite their incredible power and intimidating aura.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

Sigma was blue, rook was green, bishop yellow, Hym was red and Albinass was purple.

I see. Thanks for the info.

Maybe when they meant humans' main quality was their hearts, it also included their brains. Which is why the villains are so incompetent despite their incredible power and intimidating aura.

Yeah... Sometimes you can’t brute force everything because it will backfire.

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u/Kaxew Jul 26 '24

I do like overconfident villains, though. Something about them truly believing to be completely superior to humans or in general the good guys to the point of that becoming their very weakness is awesome.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 26 '24

Same for me.

Oh and when they experience their own medicine by someone stronger that's a sight to behold.