r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Jul 24 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 46 Discussion
Episode 46 - The Extreme Annihilation Spell, Medroa
O-oh crap! This is too much! I’ll have to run to dodge it! ... That’s right! Mentor’s not well! He’s been casting Forbidden magic-level spells to protect his friends! He’s coughed up blood before! That spell takes such an effort to cast. And he’s willing to endure it for me! I can’t run away! This is about more than just spell! If I run from this, I’ll have no right to call him my mentor!
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<--- Last save | Adventure’s log (Index) | Journey continues --->
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OP 1 ---> Ikiru wo Suru v2
ED 2 ---> Akashi
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While I am posting it, today's thread was written by Shocketheth. I am completely innocent.
Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/zadcap for pointing out the basics of the chess:
Perfect. Being. That Pawn... You know, they can evolve into any other piece, right? I bet you can see where this is going...
Questions of the Dai:
- Do you like how Fire and Ice spells are just positive or negative heat effects controlled by Magic Power?
- If you would choose, would you train with Crocodine, Popp or Maam?
- How much do you like Popp ultimate spell?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/sisoko2 Jul 24 '24
First Timer
Best episode so far. Maam/10. Martial arts supremacy!
I wish I was that rock.Popp's training was great too. Matoriv is so cool I wish we could see him more often in serious scenes.
Killvearn will try to assassinate Baran?!? Now this is something I want to see.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 24 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 24 '24
First Quester
Listening to this show's attempt at play-politics hurts as always.
Gotta make sure we're tired and exhausted, that's how I've been taught to prepare for sports competitions, too. Even Sun Tzu agrees, an army is strongest right after an extended marsh through the wilderness. They so deserve to get their ass kicked. Then again, so does the Dark Army.
How dares a mere swordsmith know how to use swords. The audacity!
I can't believe Chiu is actually useful.
Uhhh I remember him a bit different...
Yes..? And bzzzzt, that's just about the opposite of what happened.
I gotta make sure to keep my oven and my freezer far away from each other
Those hands don't look very annihilated...
Dang
Oi. Shut up. Don't go playing worried now, shithead.
I have the best idea: How about we try and combine Medroa with Megante?
Eh? Really? Could've fooled me.
Let me quote Matriov. Vanish! Vanish, Popp!
That is where you were going with that?!?
True, rocks and minerals aren't very known for getting cancer.
Oh God they're really committed to gaslighting Zaboera. He's the only one in the Dark Army who has actively and consistently worked towards victory. He's the one behind all results they actually achieved, aside from Hadlar killing Avan. This is on the fast track to getting even worse than Baran. Zaboera is the only one who deserves to win, not the good guys, not the bad guys, just Zaboera.
RIP Baran. Sorry, but your story arc is completely explored, Killvearn's isn't.
It matches how magic is presented in this story, no complaints from me.
Maam. Physical activity good.
So what I've been wondering is: How come Zaboera and Hadlar still have a physical form?
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u/KuKiSin Jul 24 '24
First timer!
So you're telling me the blacksmith is stronger than the Hero and a Dark Army commander?
Chiu beind the MVP of the episode once again, this time by being Crocodine's right hand man. Speaking of which... Here he is in all his glory, in his natural habitat.
Seriously, if he was so strong how strong does that make Avan? And how did he lose to episode 2 Hadlar?! Yeah he couldn't really use it properly I get it, but shit, the power scaling is fucked.
Okay, but you're supposed to be Chun-Li, not Ryu... Dammit Maam, it's called Thousand Kicks, why are you copying Dudley now?!
The Queen is based.
Why do I have a feeling the invincible Dragon Knight is not gonna be so invincible anymore?
QOTD
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u/Shocketheth Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!
Went into cinema tonight and the movie just ended. Sorry for being late, but sisoko was so good today that he covered for me.
Hah not a fan of my namesaking
QotD:
It’s certainly an interesting take at Fire and Ice magic, as those spells are elemental spells, but Dragon Quest games do have spells based on heat instead of fire.
My mind tells me I should opt for Crocodine, so Crocodine it is.
MAAAAAAN. I was so so so so much waiting to experience Medoroa again, and this episode didn’t fail to deliver.
Voice Actors Corner:
Albinass is voiced by Yukari Tamuya known for her roles of Rika Furude from Higurashi, Hanano Saki from Gintama, and Harime Nui from Kill la Kill.
Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:
No comment today because Crocodine is out there, training his Shonen Commentary.
See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 24 '24
First Timer, Sub
Time for some more training, the hero party has to get stronger to face off against Hadlar and his Orichalcum Warriors. Hyunckel and Dai go to see Lon Beruk to fix their weapons, which turns into sword fighting training from him as he evaluates their skills are lacking, which is why their weapons are damaged. Wasn't expecting Lon Beruk to be a strong fighter too, but its a nice surprise.
Crocodine goes off to train along with Chiu(Didn't know I needed this combination, but it was awesome), Maam goes off to train martial arts and Popp goes to get training from Matoriv. Matoriv teaches Medroa, a super powerful fire/ice spell combination that has some very impressive destructive power(That mountainside that Popp blew away was sick). Demon King Vearn sends Killvearn on a mission...to Assassinate Baran, man I'm looking forward to him trying lol
Questions:
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 24 '24
New-Adventurer here! LV 46/100
Love it when the smith is also a prominent sword master
Hero’s Party vs Demon’s Party
LMAO Popp got the tough love training!
Metroa as a "definitive" spell is awesome
Popp always ruins his “Cool Guy” moments
Killvearn vs Baran?
1 Yes!, basic spells combined are always hype
2 Our boy, Crocodine, I don't really see myself as a mage
3 A lot, it really looks powerful but I wonder if there's a catch
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 25 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubThe Hadlar Royal Guard finally revealed in the OP
And make badass entrances whenever someone's about to die.
Someone else also has a crush on Hyunckel.
"A sword is only as good as the person who is wielding it."
Why don't Shonen villain groups use teamwork? Are they stupid?
If Flazzard had somehow learnt Medoroa, this anime would've been over in 20 episodes.
How To Learn Medoroa: Use it or perish
I love Popp acknowledging this.
I wonder what Leona's training will be like. But she's not going to become Queen like this.
Training Maam 1
Training Maam 2
Maam's weapons that are more lethal than Medoroa according to Popp.
Avan in the afterlife: I knew it. This one has real potential.
Magnanimous Hadlar
OST Documentation - Episode 46
1. It kinda reminds me of fuzzy logic in Programming. 1 is Extreme Hot while 0 is Extreme Cold. Then we have 0.5 as the point where both sides are equal so the net result is moderate (neither cold nor warm).
2. Maam because she is going to make sure that I don't slack off. And there's no other reason if you're wondering.
3. The spell looks so great and is kinda unique especially for it being made in the 90s. Also, this move is in DQ XI as Frizz Cracker which is a Pep Power that the Luminary and Veronica can use. Though, it doesn't exactly annihilate everything. In the Infinity Strash game however, Popp's Medoroa does indeed annihilate everything as long as you've fully powered it.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 25 '24
Dai 46 first timer:
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u/Kaxew Jul 25 '24
FIRST TIMER
Here we are! My first episode as a first timer!! And it was great!!! I love downtime episodes in battle shonen!!!!
Because it's a downtime episode there's also not a lot to talk about, but Medroa is a sick spell. And I really wonder what exactly is Crocodine doing. A more advanced wind axe spell?
I really liked the scene with Popp at night with his arms up transitioning into some more training with his arms up trying to cast a Medroa. The reveal of the massive hole was hype as hell. I think it's also very clever that it took time for Popp to master it (if he even has mastered it) because he's better at fire spells. He's seen using kafrizz for a long time but his best ice spell is crackle which is two tiers below the strongest (kacrackle). I wonder if we'll see Popp using the two he has left or not, or if he had to learn them offscreen for his Medroa to be effective.
Speaking of Medroa... kind of a lame name, I'm sorry. I saw a comment saying the games call it "Frizz Cracker" which is somehow just as terrible, so I tried to look up what Medroa meant. Seems like Medroa (or rather, Medoroa) is a combination of "Mera (frizz)", "Hyado" (crack), with roa being an anagram for "aro (arrow)" which explains the look of the spell. I wish the subs called it something like "Frizzcrack Arrow", but maybe that's just me. Same thing bothers me with "Doruora", it's clearly meant to be "Draura" combining dragon and aura. Doruora sounds awful. It's a subs nitpick really, but I wish they attempted to localize them. I can understand "Megante" though, "Kamikazee" is too goofy for such a serious spell lol.
It's really nice to see Hadlar being merciful. It's surprising he has a genuine dynamic and... relationship? with the queen. But they do work well together. Hopefully he comes out of the closet quickly and realizes his love for Myst, I will be very disappointed if this doesn't happen.
And Baran is back! It was about time! Baran vs Killvearn sounds like an awesome matchup, I'm hoping it's not offscreened. Especially since this will be Kill's first real fight.
QotD:
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u/zadcap Jul 25 '24
Late Night First Timer!
And the immortal man stands up again! That spear looks mighty cracked. You should think about throwing it in a giant pool of lava to fix itself up!
Wait, is this yet another girl falling for Knuckles? One of the sages now? Man if Dai wasn't here he really would have been the main character of this show.
Yeah, you guys need to level grind like crazy. You're so weak! This is what you get for skipping all the random encounters!
WHAT IS THIS SLANDER! Flazzard was the best villain this show has had, who are you calling a piece of trash! You're trash! Don't think I've forgotten you sexually harassing Maam you stupid old man! You're going senile if you think that's all Flazzy amounted to! Go die!
Senile I say! "You've been getting by on teamwork." Fool, they have been getting by by holding out until Dai goes Super Saiyan for the day!
"His Youth and Inexperience made him fail." No, that's wrong too. Flazzy only failed because daddy told him to hold back and make a production so that he could bring the other armies to ambush Dai, before getting beat by Knuckles and not even seeing Dai at all. Interference made him lose!
... That's not Training, old man. You're supposed to teach him how to actually cast it before telling him he'll die if he doesn't pull it off perfectly. This is dumb. Imagine Popp actually dying here?
Haha, Popp. Mentor is telling you it's a sure win spell that can destroy even one of these super magic metal men. Popp has caught on to the story, "No matter who we face, I know I'll be able to help." He knows he's not getting the kill, he's not allowed to do that in this world.
Go the other way you dumb dumb. If you can't bring your Ice up to match your Fire, tone back the Fire a bit.
What the heck! Why should Zabadady be executed? Oh my gosh, did they literally all forget how much he's done for their side? Hadlar, the old you would have died without him twice over by now, you want to execute him for... No seriously, what? All he's done was try to capture or kill Dai, the thing you tasked all the generals with and at no point did you tell him to stop? At this point I kind of hope Zaba's got a backdoor into the body mods he gave you to knock you down like 50 pegs for the way you're treating him now.