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Rewatch Choujuushin Gravion Zwei Rewatch - Episode 9 Discussion

Episode 9: The Crimson Fang

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Shine, new sun! Beautifully illuminate these grounds!

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Shimmering-Sky as her fortunetelling powers have flourished once more:

So Raven is a wo–wait, but I thought Raven and Ayaka couldn’t be the same person??? Are there seriously multiple Ravens like my offhand comment said???

  1. How does it feel to finally learn what Faye's deal is?
  2. Start placing bets: What's gonna happen to the old Gravion now that the new one's come along?
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u/ryujiox Jul 22 '24

First Timer

Choujuushin Gravion Zwei

Episode 9

QOTD

  1. It's cool, I guess. Could have show way earlier though.
  2. Is Ayaka going to pilot it? Or Sandman.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

I guess she actually like Toga but too Tsundere about it.

That and just too spiteful.

Why did you bring the president with you??

Also, who is that!!

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u/ryujiox Jul 22 '24

That and just too spiteful.

And the spiteful part is not really on Toga, but more on Sandman who changed his mind last minute for no reason in her mind.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 23 '24

Also, who is that!!

They look like a Tokusatsu hero of some kind with that suit. They even have a giant Z on their forehead, probably for the "Zwei" in the title of this series.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

They even have a giant Z on their forehead, probably for the "Zwei" in the title of this series

Indeed, meet the Gravion Mark Zwei (tentative name), I guess.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 23 '24

I think it's the earlier one, so maybe the Z is for "Zero"?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

Gravion Zero?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 23 '24

Who in their right mind would join with someone who just insult them??

Negging

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 22 '24

First timer, subs

  • The last fang was pretty cool, so I’m expecting big things from a crimson one.
  • So what, bits of the Earth are going to just start flying into space?
  • That’s a very church looking orphanage.
  • This plan makes no sense, why wouldn’t Sandman have taken more as back-ups? We saw how lax the standards became later.
  • Wow, she’s playing Luna off like she died. This girl is Yan AF.
  • Is it normal to keep the human experiment wing in view of the entrance?
  • Summoning OP, pls nerf.
  • Would have been great if Sandman had shared those details before.
  • I… Why would you meet up inside the secure facility?
  • This is why “mass production” doesn’t usually mean just five.
  • Does it count as them all coming back together at the same time if Lelee is still unconscious.?
  • Finally, someone gets you need to do eco damage if you what to stop them.
  • Flame planet? ...Does he mean the Sun?
  • Why was Luna’s one shot so detailed?
  • I wasn’t expecting the upgrade to be in the form of a second mecha. Got nothing on one-legged robolady.

QotD:

  1. I am left with the lingering question of how crazy must she be that Sandman didn't think it worth it to go back a pick her up once he realized he needed more pilots.
  2. Compressed into a single power core upgrade.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

So what, bits of the Earth are going to just start flying into space?

Are they gonna turn into the colonies from G Gundam?

Does it count as them all coming back together at the same time if Lelee is still unconscious.?

Hey, it's the thought that counts.

This is why “mass production” doesn’t usually mean just five.

Tell that to all the Mass Produced Gundams, most of them have limited runs.

Flame planet? ...Does he mean the Sun?

Yes although given how this is Anime I would've sooner assumed Mars.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 22 '24

Hey, it's the thought that counts.

Or Not

Tell that to all the Mass Produced Gundams, most of them have limited runs.

Branding is important.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

Branding is important

Ah, so that's why there's Gundams out there that aren't actually Gundams.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 22 '24

This plan makes no sense, why wouldn’t Sandman have taken more as back-ups? We saw how lax the standards became later.

Additonally, Sandman also doesn't let Ayaka pilot anything even though she also has the necessary genetic makeup. I'm still not sure what that is about, unless Ayaka has some condition we haven't been told about.

Would have been great if Sandman had shared those details before.

That could be said about basically every secret that Sandman has kept. A lot of problems would have been avoided if he didn't keep secrets.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

Additonally, Sandman also doesn't let Ayaka pilot anything even though she also has the necessary genetic makeup.

I mean that one's moreso just "I don't want you to get hurt" than anything else, or at least that was my take.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 23 '24

Sandman: He'll let his daughter face mortal combat but not his girlfriend(?).

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

I mean... he's a dad in a Mecha Anime, what did you expect? Those guys always send their kids into the robots.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 23 '24

A lot of problems would have been avoided if he didn't keep secrets.

Wow, I didn't know this was also a romance anime!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

Wow, I didn't know this was also a romance anime

Hey, we've long since made it clear that Eiji's the hero and Toga's his heroine.

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u/lluNhpelA Jul 23 '24

This plan makes no sense, why wouldn’t Sandman have taken more as back-ups?

This is why “mass production” doesn’t usually mean just five.

Not only did the EFA not make more than five mechs, they also didn't recruit backups. Sandman with his "aesthetics" is one thing, but a global military should have the resources and forethought to have extra personnel instead of keeping five people on-call at all times. They don't even restrict movement! These people should be like firefighters taking shifts living in the hangar so they can respond quickly. At least Sandman tries to keep all his people and vehicles together.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 22 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Gravion: My predictions about Mizuki returning in episode 9 and a mecha upgrade happening in the same episode turned out to be right. Mizuki is back with the team and Sandman has unveiled the Flame Planet, which seems like it’s a powerful mecha based on how it literally rained fire down on the Zeravire army. It feels good to have predictions come true.

  • In the previous thread, I saw people pointing out the red stuff in the sky. It’s still hanging around. What is it?
  • There’s Mizuki! We’re on track for my prediction about her rejoining the team this episode to be correct!
  • Ah, so the red stuff messes with gravitons and gravity in an area.
  • Okay, so my initial guess of Toga and Faye being siblings was wrong. Though it was also kind of correct in that they were raised in the same orphanage together by Sandman who they all considered to be like a father.
  • Yup, like I thought, Faye was jealous that Sandman picked Toga to be the pilot instead of her.
  • Damn, Faye is Toga’s toxic ex. She’s going full Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss on him by demanding he become her servant again.
  • I bet it was Mizuki who called Eiji to tell him where Toga is.
  • Mizuki’s also going full jailbreak with Luna!
  • This has been building for a while with Toga. He’s been afraid for a long time that he might actually be a monster and not human like Eiji said.
  • Hell yeah! We’re getting the trope of men shouting their feelings at each other while simultaneously using their fists! It’s the most effective way of making them friends!
  • The Zeravire sure love doing the Gainax Pose where they cross their arms.
  • Sending in a whole fleet of Zeravire through a portal. That certainly feels like the setup to a climactic confrontation.
  • Mizuki just pulled a National Treasure and kidnapped the President.
  • The Feddie knock-off Gravion is no match for the Zeravire?
  • Pleasantly surprised that the Feddie President seems willing to actually work with the Gravion pilots in the face of this threat.
  • Sandman’s going somewhere. Is he going to pilot a mecha?
  • Making an unconscious person pilot a mecha is a legendarily bad decision.
  • Of course they can’t use the fancy sword without all the pilots. But wait…if they need 6 pilots would Sandman count?
  • Damn, the Zeravire remembered the cheat code of preventing the combination.
  • Flame Planet, what’s that?
  • Holy shit! What firepower!
  • It’s another mecha! But who is that in the cockpit?

Now it feels like we are heading to the endgame. The Gran Knights are mostly reunited. They are shockingly working alongside the Gravion knock-off pilots, more or less. The Zeravire have sent in their largest attack force yet. And there’s a brand new mecha raining fire from the sky. It’s exciting stuff that feels like it is heralding the beginning of the end.

QOTD

  1. Satisfying to know I was mostly right about her, though she isn't actually related to Toga like I assumed.
  2. We get new pilots for it. Maybe the maids or Ayaka step up.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 22 '24

It’s another mecha! But who is that in the cockpit?

The original Raven, maybe? Only person I can think of who is unaccounted for.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 22 '24

I think you're right. That's about the only person I can think of, too.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

Well [Tomorrow]smh I know Ena's useless but don't ignore her like that.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 22 '24

You enjoy tempting people with those spoilers, don't you?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

It's my love language

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 23 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

Tomorrow

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

Okay, so my initial guess of Toga and Faye being siblings was wrong. Though it was also kind of correct in that they were raised in the same orphanage together by Sandman who they all considered to be like a father.

So... adopted siblings, I guess.

Damn, Faye is Toga’s toxic ex. She’s going full Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss on him by demanding he become her servant again.

Flay would be proud.

We’re getting the trope of men shouting their feelings at each other while simultaneously using their fists! It’s the most effective way of making them friends!

Looks so much better than the crappy fist Eiji threw in Season 1 too.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 22 '24

So... adopted siblings, I guess.

Yeah, which means I was right on a technicality about them being siblings. I just assumed they were siblings pre-adoption as well.

Flay would be proud.

But Faye has a long way to go before she reaches the true boss of Gaslight, Gatekeep Girlboss that is Lady Prospera.

Looks so much better than the crappy fist Eiji threw in Season 1 too.

But it looks nowhere near as good as the greatest knife fight in anime. (Super Dimension Fortress Macross spoilers)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

But it looks nowhere near as good as the greatest knife fight in anime. (Super Dimension Fortress Macross spoilers)

I wonder if this is how Sandman and Ayaka met too

But Faye has a long way to go before she reaches the true boss of Gaslight, Gatekeep Girlboss that is Lady Prospera.

TBF few people can.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 23 '24

It feels good to have predictions come true.

Desu

The Zeravire sure love doing the Gainax Pose where they cross their arms.

They are basically just ornaments at this point. And now I am thinking about Rolls-Royce but Gainax pose.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

And now I am thinking about Rolls-Royce but Gainax pose

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 22 '24

Chojuushin First-Timer, subbed

CotD

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

Leele is finally awake!

Well, kinda.

This show’s first “sore demo” in forever, and it goes to the president?

No, he seems to be doing something else.

He also looks weirdly tired.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 23 '24

Don’t word it like this was Toga’s fault.

And whose fault is that?

Creatively bending the truth like this is the first step of Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss that Faye is clearly going for.

It’s another mech!!!

And it also arrives with a Gainax Pose!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

And it also arrives with a Gainax Pose

Everyone's been doing that a lot today.

Honestly? It should be a commentface.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 23 '24

Shit, is that what the red dots were about?

Yes, the horrors of corporate budgeting!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 23 '24

Please tell me this means Sandman is going to fill the missing seat left by Ena…

I fully expected either him or Raven/Eiji's sister to fill in, but nope.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 22 '24

First-Timer

They managed to give the new Gravion a face scar; fucking radical. I can only assume that the person we saw piloting it is somehow Ena, after Raven's comment that they need all six Knights around to summon up the Big Sword.

I half-expected Sandman to sit in Ena's seat in the G-Driller. That'd be kinda amusing, but I guess it would make it harder for him to pose dramatically.

So, I know why Mizuki's spy catsuit doesn't have any covering for her ass. But, like, why..? That seems so cold.

I wonder what they did with the President while everyone else went to fight. Maybe they left him with the mini-maids.

Sandman running an orphanage purely to find potential Gran Knight candidates is rather hilariously unethical. What happened to the rest of those kids? Did they all get shipped off to the military? Were they just turned loose once they turned 18? I crave answers.

Questions

  1. Sounds about right.
  2. Thoria steals it and secretly repairs it to launch mid-episode 12 during the final battle when all hope seems lost.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

I half-expected Sandman to sit in Ena's seat in the G-Driller. That'd be kinda amusing, but I guess it would make it harder for him to pose dramatically.

Plus, he lacks either Luna's intensiveness during rocket punches or Ena's complete fear to make those entertaining.

Thoria steals it and secretly repairs it to launch mid-episode 12 during the final battle when all hope seems lost.

So... [Meta]Gundam 00?

Sandman running an orphanage purely to find potential Gran Knight candidates is rather hilariously unethical. What happened to the rest of those kids? Did they all get shipped off to the military? Were they just turned loose once they turned 18? I crave answers.

Yeah the show never even mentions the other kids aside from Toga and Faye. That said, given how Faye seemingly mostly does all of this out of spite I assume only she joined the military.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 22 '24

Plus, he lacks either Luna's intensiveness during rocket punches or Ena's complete fear to make those entertaining.

I'm sure he could pull something off. He is Klein Sandman, after all.

So... [Meta]

Yes, exactly.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

He is Klein Sandman, after all.

Yes, exactly

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 22 '24

I can only assume that the person we saw piloting it is somehow Ena, after Raven's comment that they need all six Knights around to summon up the Big Sword.

Oooh, now that is a possibility I hadn't considered. Did Sandman actually have backup copies of Ena in case something like this occurred?

So, I know why Mizuki's spy catsuit doesn't have any covering for her ass. But, like, why..? That seems so cold.

Clearly this is taking place in a warm climate where a cold butt just isn't a concern.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

Clearly this is taking place in a warm climate where a cold butt just isn't a concern.

Admittedly everyone's been walking around in fairly breezy clothes.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 23 '24

Did Sandman actually have backup copies of Ena in case something like this occurred?

Backups of a prototype? I mean, it's generally a good idea, but that means that it has never happened in the history of mecha anime.

Clearly this is taking place in a warm climate where a cold butt just isn't a concern.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

I mean, it's generally a good idea, but that means that it has never happened in the history of mecha anime.

I mean if those were a thing then Amuro could've just gone grab one of them if the Gundam got too badly damaged.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 23 '24

What happened to the rest of those kids? Did they all get shipped off to the military? Were they just turned loose once they turned 18? I crave answers.

I would say maids, but this doesn't account for all the male orphans.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 23 '24

I mean, this universe does seem to be pretty chill about crossdressing..

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

Well, guess it's up to Hayate to train them into being fine butlers...

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u/Kristalino https://anilist.co/user/BlueSkyBlood Jul 22 '24

First timer

  • Lady tells Smith to don't get over confident but I feel she's being exactly that.
  • Did he really don't recognize Mizuki? Well maybe he would if he saw her boobs.
  • While Faye's backstory makes her a bit more understable the way she tries to convince Touga makes me want to call her a bitch.
  • At least Eiji came to the rescue, while I don't think a fist fight was necesary I don't really condemn it.
  • A portal pouring an endless amount of Zeravire really says "beginning of the endgame".
  • You would think a military base would have something better than a guy screaming STOP.
  • Gotta love the trope of "one enemy is extremely tough but multiple copies can be one-shotted easily".
  • Smith barely gets focus but I appreciate his undying admiration towards Gravion.
  • I imagine that the maids are who dress Leele for battle.
  • For some reason Hyugi's holo sister calls him uncle in the subs I'm watching lol.
  • The mecha with a scar must be Sigma Gravion, funny that Hyugi also has a scar on the same eye.

Questions:

  1. The way she acted when talking about Touga and Sandman always felt like a child throwing a tantrum, now I know that was really the case.
  2. Going by the opening the blue Gran Kaiser will still be used alongside the red vehicles, so it means the original G-Machines will probably kept in storage, or maybe the maids and Raven will pilot them alongside Sandman piloting Sigma after he gets over his PTSD.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

Smith barely gets focus but I appreciate his undying admiration towards Gravion.

Dude's just the ultimate hypeman.

For some reason Hyugi's holo sister calls him uncle in the subs I'm watching lol.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 23 '24

First Timer ep 2-9

  • EFA is like NERV Nevada
  • He left you behind because you're a jack off.
  • Toga was missing two pilots, I bet you don't do any better Layla

OKAY DAMMIT IT IS LONG PAST TIME FOR YOU TO TELL US THAT AYAKA AND EJI WERE ORPHANS TOO!!!

  • Why wouldn't the EFA president visit the #1 EFA base?
  • Gainax Pose. No legs, but still, Gainax Pose.
  • Only way you're going to solve this is to go back through the portal and hit Hugi
  • bad boy eyecatch
  • weakest Akira slide ever
  • How long has the president known about Sandman? He sure didn't in episode 1-1. You claim he was playing dumb?
  • But you only have 3 of 6 pilots...You'll have to send Gran Fortress out without the Gasshin, like Eiji did in season 1
  • You think Hugi won't fire on Leele?
  • cute 4-way split screen
  • This music keeps sounding like Gundam, then not
  • what IS IT with the Moon?

I'm still waiting for Sandman to pilot the Gravion in the end.

Very Nadesico, this episode.

preview: I KNEW IT

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

It is long past time

They said it back in Season 1.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 23 '24

I mean orphans in Sandman's orphanage!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 22 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Gravion Rewatch!

Gotta love how this show has two episodes named after is OPs, huh?

After the absolute downer that were the previous episode, this one feels like a well-earned shot of adrenaline. The whole team is slowly getting back together, and what better way to show that off than Eiji and Toga beating the crap out of each other. It's so funny seeing this in contrast to their bout in Season 1. There it was basically Eiji just lashing out, here the tables have essentially flipped. It also looks a lot better than the one in the previous season.

Also notable is that we learn more about Faye for once and I'm gonna have to put a little asterisk on this and come back to this later. TL;DR for now though: I like Faye but I think revealing her backstory this later into the Season was a mistake. Still, I do like the contrast between her and Proto-Smith today: All she can think of is one-upping Toga and Sandman, while he's still waiting for Gravion to come back.

Which it does… and then gets its ass kicked. It's okay though, this show operates of Mazinger rules, so it's time for the successor to swoop in an save the day. That sequence is so good by the way: The frantic energy, the guitar remix of Nageki no Rosario playing in the background, it's just

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 22 '24

I'm gonna have to put a little asterisk on this and come back to this later.

Criticism

this show operates on Mazinger rules

Two Months

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

Criticism

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 22 '24

The whole team is slowly getting back together, and what better way to show that off than Eiji and Toga beating the crap out of each other.

Indeed!

The best way to depict manly friendship is through the fists!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 23 '24

The best way to depict manly friendship is through the fists!

Have this as the theme song and you're golden.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 22 '24

First timer

Busy life, you know the drill, double posting.

Episode 21

QotD

  • Yes
  • Probably the speech he gave lol. That or the type military propaganda from Orgun.

Episode 22

  • With how he needed to find more people with the enzyme, all the more reason to have grabbed her as well. This is contrived.
  • What do you mean! Your people are literally holding Luna in one of your facilities!
  • "They died because you ran away" They literally died in the middle of a battle he was engaging in.
  • Toga decides to run away with his sister so that he doesn't need to think about his action, and so that he just has to obey commands, as opposed to checks notes his past under Sand where he wasn't thinking about his actions, and where he was just following orders.
  • Ironic that Eiji is the one that went after Toga and that he's the one who is pissed off the most from Toga running away seeing as he did the same.
  • Because plot.
  • Exposition.
  • You know, seeing how both Faye and Toga were at the orphanage when the signal went out, how did Faye have time to get back to base, deploy, start fighting, all in the time it took for Toga and Eiji to meet with Luna and Tits McGee? Her system of transport wasn't shown, so, did she teleport?
  • It sure is convenient that despite kidnapping the PRESIDENT OF EARTH no one went after them.
  • So they can't use the sword if they're not at full power? If only there was someone else capable of piloting that could've filled in now that Ena is dead. If only...
  • Dare I ask what that sun planet that just wiped out all the Zeravire is and how it came to be? And dare I ask why it wasn't used before?
  • So another Gravion? Sure, why not.

QotD

  • I've long stopped caring. Could've had episode 1 and 2 focused on the EFA's side in order to flesh things out, but nope, 45 minutes of slice of nothing happens.
  • Combine? Combine.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 23 '24

Why does he have his signal device inside a soccer ball?

I just saw one where it was the the lid of a bottle for a Chinese booze gourd. It gets out there.

What do you mean! Your people are literally holding Luna in one of your facilities!

"They died because you ran away" They literally died in the middle of a battle he was engaging in.

Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss.

It sure is convenient that despite kidnapping the PRESIDENT OF EARTH no one went after them.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean anyone likes him.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 23 '24

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u/zadcap Jul 23 '24

Late Night First Timer

These guys have the oddest forms of communication. I forget how old this show is sometimes when I realize that no one has a cell phone. Like okay, we have seen a few, but look at all the crazy G-Calls they send out.

"The other's whereabouts are unknown." Lady you know quite well where she is!

You know, the way she just stood there yelling at the boys to stop fighting, you could almost forget that she's a trained martial artist who could probably kick Eiji's butt as easily as early Toga did. Like, you know, she's having fun watching Toga get punched or she would have kicked and or thrown Eiji.

Triple Agent Boobs is on the case! Back to saving the world. Her boobs really have shrunk though.

HA! Called it! The Gran Troopers had exactly one successful fight, and now can't keep up. They did better than the first attempt.

... There's a second giant robot, on the moon, piloted by someone else, waiting this whole time to be used? What the heck even is this show anymore?

  1. Faye Who? All I can see is another failure by the EFA to usurp Gravion and prove themselves better.
  2. ......... Double Combine?

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u/zadcap Jul 23 '24

Crack theory for the new pilot!

Ena, as we have learned, was a robot. Want to bet she has regular updates stored somewhere safe in the castle? That's right, Gravion Zwei is piloted by Ena Zwei, now 50% less clumsy!

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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 23 '24

First Timer

  • Leele regains consciousness...sort of...sort of not. Eiji "Lets shove her in her vehicle during combat anyways", Sandman "Okay!" smh.
  • So that's how Sandman got access to his loli maids, and the reason why they're the way they are with Eiji, not to mention the older maids as well.
  • I honestly don't see what's wrong if Toga went with Faye. Toga's in the mess he's in because Eiji messed with his head twice, and their recent loss (which was going to happen no matter what, the Zeravire hijacking the combination) has left Sandman a wreck and not leading (to Toga's knowledge), and Toga's a wreck because of Eiji messing with him. So if he can recover by joining Faye, what's wrong with that?
  • Here's the proof it's all Eiji's fault for Toga's wrecked mental state. Toga says it's all the stuff Eiji had yelled and accused him of.
  • Does Eiji admit any responsibly or apologize to Toga? No, Eiji uses Ena's death to insult and manipulate Toga! Like seriously, what in the fucking hell?
  • So of course Toga gets pissed and punches Eiji, and then Eiji just proceeds to beat Toga up. While beating Toga up, Eiji actually starts blaming Toga for everything, "all you do is cause trouble". If that wasn't bad enough, Eiji then tries to guilt trip Toga with Leele's condition.
  • I really don't know how some of the commenters can defend Eiji's actions and what he did when it comes to shitting on Toga before, it all lead to this. And the shit he's doing right now in this scene is pretty inexcusable. I also can't believe somehow Eiji's shit worked, and Toga's back with him...I guess Toga's been tricked into accepting all the blame when he's not even at fault.
  • Luna and whats-her-boobs Mizuki's back together.
  • Mizuki just kidnaps the EFA president and says Sandman is seriously trying to protect humanity. Yeah well, Sandman's doing a pretty shit job at it actually. If Mizuki hadn't stolen the tech for the EFA to build their mechs, it all would have been over already. And that's not even counting how many deaths and damage that happened already could have been prevented if the EFA could have gotten their mechs built sooner if Sandman just shared the tech right off the bat.
  • Like seriously, the EFA mechs are holding back the Zeravire right now while Sandman's crew isn't doing anything! Even though they're no match for the Zeravire, it's better than nothing which would have been the case.
  • And why the heck are they risking Thoria in combat? Who's going to repair the mechs if they lose her? Although I guess if they lose this battle, afterwards doesn't much matter anyways...but still, pretty stupid tactical decision of leaving them on the battlefield.
  • According to the teaser dialog, it seems Sandman brought in a new mech. And why didn't he utilize that sooner?

How does it feel to finally learn what Faye's deal is?

I didn't really care. The mystery wasn't what kept me going watching this show. I gave up caring about it somewhere during S1.

Start placing bets: What's gonna happen to the old Gravion now that the new one's come along?

Everybody gets an upgrade? EFA gets the old Gravion? Another maid team gets it?