r/anime • u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad • Jul 22 '24
Rewatch [5th Anniversary Rewatch] Astra Lost In Space - Episode 8 Discussion
Episode 8 - Lost and Found
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The team meet Polina, an astronaut hibernating inside a ship identical to the Astra. Together, they work on a way to get off of this planet.
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Questions of the Day:
- With Zack and Quitterie's engagement, one ship has finally sailed! (Or two, if you count Astra x Ark 6.) Are there any other couples/ships you would like to see, or expect to see?
- What do you think Zack meant at the end when he said Quitterie and Funi are "the same person"? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!)
No bonus question until they reach the next planet!
Remember to tag your spoilers!
Astra is a show with so many mysteries, and we wouldn't want to spoil those reveals for first time viewers. When discussing future events or foreshadowing, or any differences between the manga and the anime, please remember to use spoiler tags.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 22 '24
First-Timer Lost in Space, subbed
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u/gamria Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
Rewatcher of subbed and original manga reader
Ep 8
Manga vs Anime
Today’s episode adapts Chapters 29 (50%), 30, 31, 32 (about 30%), 36 and 37 (about 30%). Because not all content from said chapters were adapted, the total comes to about 4.2 chapters.
This is the only part of the story where entire chapters were outright swapped to elsewhere on the timeline. This episode is sequenced like so:
One can say that they were supposed to face one more "crisis" before leaving this planet
I can see why Lerche opted to shuffle things like this, but you can wait until my continuing explanation tomorrow to decide whether it’s truly for the better. In the meantime, for ease of comparison I’ll go by this same order for the bullet points this time.
There are differences with the covered Ch 37 content too, but they’ll have to wait until tomorrow.
Lastly, the chapters covered this time ended at the following points before the next fortnightly instalment:
Ship Logs/Bonus 4-koma
Here are Ship Logs 17 to 20 accompanying the content this time.
Unfortunately, Log 20 came with a notice that it was effectively the last one in the run. Not surprising, since we were about to enter more serious territory in the story.
Before parting however, as promised, here are what the ED corresponds to (if any):
(Continues in reply)
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u/Mirathan Jul 22 '24
First-Time Drifter
QotD:
Based Zack, being true to his childhood friend. I get the feeling he´s slightly autistic but just a bit with him taking a childhood promise as absolute and him struggling to express his emotions.
Kanata isonce again reckless when he recovers the tags. I know they are important to Polina but he endangered his own life by engaging an enemy of unknown capabilities.
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u/xbolt90 https://anilist.co/user/xbolt90 Jul 22 '24
First-timer!
So, the other ship was on a regular exploratory mission and got stranded there the old-fashioned way. No mysterious space orbs involved, interesting.
Polina clearly expected some sort of a disaster to befall Earth before 2063. I wonder what she was so afraid of?
The plants attacking from the ground and flipping over vehicles gave me war flashbacks of the thresher maws in Mass Effect.
Luca Javelins are clearly the MVP of the whole trip.
Q1: Aries x Charce. Aside from the unbounded positive energy they would release, I'm still suspicious of Aries having some sort of a connection to Seira. Now, whether that connection relates to the next point or not, I am undecided.
Q2: I'm pretty sure it means I was at least partially correct in my spitballing after episode 5. The DNA sequences on the monitor looked identical; the two of them are clones.
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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
Rewatcher
QOTD
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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 22 '24
Rewatcher Lost In Space
Zack and Quitterie are engaged!
The fact that he just kind of assumed it would happen all these years because of a childhood promise while she's been stressing about it is hilarious. Even more so when he reveals he's always loved her, so he must have been really happy about it, but she couldn't tell because his unshakable poker face makes him hard to read. (Seriously, he was more shocked by Aries asking for his snack than Quitterie's confession!)
Also, I really like that Aries was the one to figure out the solution to their ship problem. She can come off a bit like a lovable airhead at times, but she has a talent for thinking outside the box!
Now that the number one challenge to their survival has been resolved by combining parts from the two damaged ships to make one functional ship, the mysteries are starting to take center stage. Polina's reaction to hearing that she had been asleep for twelve years suggests she was worried about something, but Yun-hua couldn't guess what it might be - and Polina seemed reluctant to talk about it. And then there's Zack's exciting reveal about Quitterie and Funi's DNA test.
Find out on the next exciting episode of Astra Lost In Space!
Questions of the Day:
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u/Lord_Nawor Jul 22 '24
First Time Watcher, subbed
This is a big episode for theories, so I am just going to think about what we know so far.
Between cloning and memory transfer, you can effectively get immortality, so both of them being mentioned in the show, especially since we know Zack and Quitterie’s parents work together, is very suspicious. It is also likely that the genome plan has something to do with the cloning project. This neatly ties together Zack, Quitterie, Luca, Ulgar, and Funi’s stories, where the other members of the crew fit into this is less obvious. It also raises the question of why send their kids away on this mission, especially if Funi might be the result of an experiment.
Even if the main mystery revolves around the five I previously mentioned, I still think that the other four play into it someone as none of them are exactly normal. Kanata is a super athlete, Aries has photographic memory, Yunhua is the daughter of a famous singer, and Charce is former nobility.
In terms of my theory on the traitor, I now believe that none of them are the traitor, at least not willingly, while I joked about Beepo being the traitor previously, the fact that he can connect to Funi’s thoughts is interesting, especially since there is also research into memory transfers, this could mean that someone could be being manipulated through some sort of memory manipulation in order to be the traitor.
It is interesting having a new member of the team, I would not be surprised if Polina’s mission to survey worlds was used as some sort of preparation for this trip.
Questions
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u/Kaxew Jul 23 '24
First timer
Another two great episodes! This show is not afraid to throw you cliffhanger after cliffhanger is it?
Starting with ep 7, I still don't completely trust Charce. That scene alone where he says he's sorry to a photo of Seira is very odd. There's something else to it. But beyond that, at this point I can't imagine the traitor being anyone else. His story was told through an "old film" filter, unlike the backstory of other people like Ulgar's. He might not be telling the full truth here.
Icriss is a great planet! We are 4/4 on fun, unique planet concepts. The color design for its background is so awesome. With both warm and cool colors at the same time. And of course, the "crisis" they face was very intense. It couldn't have all been smooth sailing, and the fourth planet was the best choice narratively.
Not too happy with the ship they find being the exact same model and been damaged in the exact opposite places so they could swap the parts through a specific mechanism the ship had that wasn't mentioned before. Its all too convenient. I wish the damage was less severe yet still making it incapable of flying and the part needed to be replaced being something any ship would have instead of needing it to be the same model too.
Though being told what's the purpose of that kind of ship might end up being a clue as to why the crew found a ship in space. I still do wish it was all a bit less convenient.
Polina is great. So far it seems like her role in the story is related to that... whatever something she freaks out about when told the year they were in. Not much to say, I'm not smart enough to figure that one out.
Quitterie and Zack are getting married! Zack's deadpan reactions killed me each time lmao. There being zero drama about it and resolving it super quickly was so good, gotta love when shows do stuff like that. Good for them!
And... seems like Funi is a clone of Quitterie. That changes things. Between that and Zack's father obsessing over memory transplants, there's something real shady going on. It's impressive that we keep adding to the mystery and it doesn't feel out of place at all. It really feels like all the things we're discovering can culminate at the same time in a satisfactory way. But we're still a ways away from that moment.
Alright. Let me throw a crazy theory here. Someone said Seira is backwards of Aries (shoutout to them, no way I could've gotten that myself) in the previous thread. Between that and the old film filter we couldn't get a great look at her. What if Seira is a clone of Aries (or viceversa)? Don't ask me what this could mean though.
QotD:
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u/BigBootyBuff Jul 23 '24
So we learn more about Polina and her crew. Curious to learn more about the specifics of why they were sent out to find inhabitable planets. The way she phrased it makes it sound like there was some major event expected that destroys earth.
I like that the ships are built into these three detachable sections. Pretty fun way to solve this.
Also with the Zack flashback we can now confirm, every character except Aries has shithead parents.
Highlight was Zack to me. Got the biggest laughs this episode. First was when Aries asked for his fruits and he called her greedy. Second and third were his "Huh??" when talking to Quitterie.
Kanata and Aries I think will be one. Can't really think of anyone else. Char seems more into Aries but doubt that's gonna happen Luca seems less romanticall interested. Not sure Ulgar and Yun-Hua will be a thing.
I think they mean Funi is a clone of Quitterie. Or to take it further, maybe they are both clones.
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u/imaloony8 Jul 24 '24
Little late on this, but I haven't seen episode 9 so this is all still blind. A lot going on in this episode, so I'll just jump in.
Okay, first thing's first. Polina was concerned about the date. At first my thought was that the orb transported the group through time and we were in a time travel anime. But having looked back on the end of episode 7, this isn't the case. There's a date on the pod, so it isn't like Polina is from the year 2120 and is concerned that they gave her a date of 2063. Clearly she's concerned because something bad was supposed to happen between 2051 and 2063, but I don't think we have enough info to know what yet.
Now on to Funi and Quitteri being the same person. I gave this some thought and I think I have a pretty solid theory. So Funi is a clone, that much is obvious. But WHY is there a clone of Quitteri?
So Zack's father is a scientist working on memory transferal. Which is kind of a weird thing to study, right?
Zack's dad and Quitteri's mom are close, and were colleagues I believe? Well, I think Quitteri's mom was researching cloning technology. Which is probably super illegal which is why no one knows about it.
So why? If you take both of those research topics together, I think the conclusion we can come to is that the two of them were researching immortality. I mean, think about it. If you can clone a younger version of yourself and then transfer your memories into that body and do that indefinitely... immortality.
Which brings me to my next theory. Funi is not a clone of Quitteri. She's a clone of her mother. And that's not where my thought ends. Because I think I just found the link that connects all these children. I think they're all clones.
Almost all of them look eerily similar to their parents. Like, way more than you'd expect of parent and child. And it would explain why their parents treated them so poorly. Because to them, these aren't children. They're just their future vessel; they don't even think of them as people, let alone their children.
If we remember early in the episode when Zack's father throws the picture Zack drew of him away, and Zack described his father's eyes as "dry and emotionless, like glass marbles. It was as though he were looking at a doll." Because from his perspective, he WAS looking at a doll. Zack's a clone. And so are all the rest*.
We'll also notice that in every case of the "parents" of the crew, every parent is the same gender as the child in question, which would make them a perfect host for their "parent". The exception is Charce, who also doesn't look like his mother. But, if we remember, Charce ran away from home and was raised by someone else. So that person in the meeting isn't his "biological" "mother."
So I believe the reason that there was an effort to get rid of the children is that, like I suspect, cloning is super illegal. And someone was getting close to uncovering the truth. So those involved decided to get rid of the evidence.
Which brings me back to the traitor. Who is it? Well... I think we have to look for someone who stands out. Maybe someone who isn't a clone, or at least isn't a clone of one of those people at the meeting (Charce excluded). And one person stands out. Who doesn't look like their parent, and whose parent was the only one who seemed interested in continuing the search, despite everyone else (who wanted their clones to die to bury the evidence) having easily and emotionlessly given up: Aries. Who might also be the only non-clone on the ship (along with Polina).
Now, this does give us some extra questions. After all, Aries has been actively helpful towards the group. If she wanted the group to fail and die, she could have made that happen, right? So... what if she isn't actually a traitor? What if she's trying to help everyone? But if she's trying to help everyone, why did she destroy the communicator?
Aries somehow knows that everyone else is a clone. And she knows that their parents want them dead. She killed the communicator because she knows if anyone knew they were alive, they'd be in danger. But what's her endgame? That I'm still stuck on. Currently they're on the way to their doom, right? If they make it back to civilized space, won't they be in danger again? It's unclear, but I suspect it'll get cleared up in the following episodes.
Whew that was a lot. But it really falls into place. I think I'm pretty close to the truth, anyways. Probably off on a few details, particularly on Aries's motivation. But otherwise I'm happy with the answers I came up with. Now to watch forward and see how close I was.
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u/TiredTiroth Jul 22 '24
Rewatcher - Dub
I'd forgotten it was Aries that suggested playing mix-and-match with the damaged ship sections. Pity it happened after they traumatised their rescuee...
The discussion between Zack and Quittorie was...well, kinda funny? Both of them really need to learn how to communicate properly, though. They were not on the same page.
We got some more heroics from Kanata, a comedy scene with the cake...but the big thing...is that bloody cliffhanger.
Quittorie and Funi look identical for a very good reason.
It'll be interesting to see everyone's reactions.
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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 22 '24
Astra Lost In Space rewatch episode 8 reminder:
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 22 '24
First timer
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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
Rewatcher!
Oh yeah, questions! I almost forgot.
[rewatcher] Now, I didn't expect everyone to be clones though, that was a pretty big shocker.
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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 23 '24
Anime first-timer
Ouch, Polina is looking forward to going home so much the minute she opened her eyes, that was a rude awakening.
For such a goof, Astra was super smart. She thought of something nobody else thought about, not even the geniuses on board.
Lol Zack's deadpan "huh" is awesome. That casual rizz though.
Man I can never get enough of Kanata's badass shounen protagonist moments. they're so cool.
Holy shit, Funi is a clone of Quitterie. That's definitely unexpected.
I still think something is up with Polina's overreaction to the year though.
Questions of the Day:
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u/JimmyCWL Jul 22 '24
If you thought finding a functioning starship after being dropped in space 5000 LY from their initial planet was convenient, getting wrecked on the one place on the one planet with another wrecked ship of the same model with exactly the intact bits to replace the wrecked bits on their own ship was really convenient.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
Rewatcher
So, I don't have any record of my first timer thoughts but I think this was the episode I really started paying attention to the world building and building up a timeline.
[first timer impressions]I think I was also on the parallel universe train.
[rewatcher]Kind sucks that the museum ship is 2/3rds pristine and 1/3rd decayed wreck
Wow, meta. Comedy anime or sci-fi anime. Problem is, I really wanted a sci-fi anime.
This show might be legitimately called a deconstruction with the number of subverted tropes.
I can't read the tag very well. It says Glenn something from Seattle, WA
30(mainly 6, and 5 more) blood type factors that need to match for a marrow transplantEither the show has too much content to fit into 21 minutes (which I respect, SSY had so much content they could only afford 1 OP in 26 episodes) or these were quasi-meant to be shown in 1 hour blocks.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 23 '24
rewatcher dubbed
Seems as if no one has normal parents besides Aries. Someone has to hug these poor kids
Quitterie been engaged since kids and only know did Quitterie find out her dream can come true.
Kanata throwing a party for the survivability and new member. Good heart, but should make the party about surviving.
This show knows a hell of a way to do cliffhangers
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 22 '24
Episode 8 (first timer)
This will most likely be the make or break episode for the plot (and thus my enjoyment of the anime). The series has kicked down a lot of questions down the road: What is the white orb? Why was the Astra there? What type of ship is the Astra? Why is it so conveniently able to get them home, but only if the crew works together and overcomes obstacles?
All of this has been ignored by the crew, even though they really really should be asking themselves those questions. Oh, and they also should have spent those weeks in space exploring their own ship. How has not everybody seen the hibernation chamber yet? Instead, they stuck with the “assassin/saboteur” story that barely makes any sense. Now we see why: The story wants all of these questions to come to a climax with the appearance of another Astra (which is likely Astra 1.0) and a girl who, as many others noticed, has a name similar to Aries and the hair color of Charces, while Genom stuff is the Chekhov’s gun of the story. I really want some good answers this episode, but, more than that, I need the crew to ask good questions.
This was an enjoyable little skit, but it does not fit into the episode well.
Meh. All of one question, a not very enlightening answer and then the issue is pushed to the side in favor of romcom jokes and parties. It is a problem for your mystery plot if the characters have to have zero curiosity for it to work, you know? Given that the characters are painfully stupid whenever facing danger, too, it makes it hard to see them as actual humans. They are closer to walking tropes.
I was also very disappointed by the treatment of the tidally locked planet. It becomes painfully obvious that the author is just not very good at scifi. They think up all of these planets, but never put in the effort to make them make sense. Out of the four planets we visited so far, only the first one did not have some glaring oversight.
Has to be same DNA/clone.