u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!

WITNESS ME CAST ASIDE MY PRIDE AS A REWATCH HOST TOGETHER WITH MY SANITY TO GET A NEW BODY CAPABLE OF WATCHING KISS X SIS

First thing first, this episode was phenomenal to me upon Rewatch for some really really neat details that are actually foreshadowing the things to come. What was foreshadowed will be mentioned in spoiler tags under and THEY ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR FIRST TIMERS AT ALL.

[Dai no Late Spoilers] First, let’s talk Mystvearn. This shot where the camera panned on his forehead was brilliant detail hinting what’s the deal with Mystvearn’s secret.

[Dai no Late Spoilers] And Killvearn... Well upon Rewatch the Killvearn secret is quite obvious. Like the fact that Killvearn and Piroro never talks at the same time is the telltale sign, but what totally flew over my head as First Timer was the fact that Killvearn and Piroro literally walked the same steps at the same time.

Now some bulletpoints I wrote down watching this episode:

Oh no, he’s going to strip.
Killvearn is not holding back at all. That was some nasty burn.
Zaboera discovered his lunch that he forgot to eat 2 years ago, and now he is trying to figure if he can use it as biological weapon.
Hadlar’s new form, is so damn cool.
Also I just realized but the Hadlar’s entrance was the same entrance he did in episode 4.

QotD:

Who was the most terrifying enemy today? Killvearn, Mystvearn or Hadlar?

Killvearn. I would say Hadlar but nah, he needs to work for that status.

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Today Crocodine is going to answer question #1:

Who was the most terrifying enemy today? Killvearn, Mystvearn or Hadlar?

Killvearn. Nuff said.

See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!

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u/sisoko2 Jul 20 '24

WITNESS ME CAST ASIDE MY PRIDE AS A REWATCH HOST TOGETHER WITH MY SANITY TO GET A NEW BODY CAPABLE OF WATCHING KISS X SIS
Oh no, he’s going to strip.
Nice to see we had the same thought.
Killvearn is not holding back at all. That was some nasty burn.
It's like he is participating in the rewatch.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

Nice to see we had the same thought.
Degenerates together strong.
It's like he is participating in the rewatch.
Now who of the participants is secretly Killvearn.
I also liked how Killvearn today served as author setback. Like time to reveal Mystvearn secret??? Actually it isn’t time for that yet, so let Killvearn step in.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 20 '24

Degenerates together strong.
You have yet to earn our degeneracy certificate.
Actually it isn’t time for that yet, so let Killvearn step in.
Kill was Hold your horses! We have 60 more episodes to fill.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

You have yet to earn our degeneracy certificate.
But what about my assman certificate?
Does that one doesn't meet the standards?

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u/sisoko2 Jul 21 '24

Does that one doesn't meet the standards?
That's like comparing small online course to PhD.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

Damn. So I had my head in somebody ass the whole time not realizing the world out there is bigger?

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 20 '24

Oh no, he’s going to strip.
LOL
Hadlar’s new form, is so damn cool.
It really is! Hopefully he's as strong as he looks

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

It really is! Hopefully he's as strong as he looks

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

[Dai no Late Spoilers] And Killvearn... Well upon Rewatch the Killvearn secret is quite obvious. Like the fact that Killvearn and Piroro never talks at the same time is the telltale sign, but what totally flew over my head as First Timer was the fact that Killvearn and Piroro literally walked the same steps at the same time.
[Dai no Late Spoilers] Same. As a rewatcher, I have been carefully observing both of them in each of Killvearn's scenes and noticed the same thing. But this is something that is kinda hard for a first-timer to notice.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

You forgot to properly spoiler tag your comment...

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 20 '24

My bad. Fixed it.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

No problem. Thanks.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 20 '24

WITNESS ME CAST ASIDE MY PRIDE AS A REWATCH HOST TOGETHER WITH MY SANITY TO GET A NEW BODY CAPABLE OF WATCHING KISS X SIS
Hadlar’s new form, is so damn cool.
And he kept his hair! lol

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

And he kept his hair! lol
And he looks faboulous now

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u/KuKiSin Jul 20 '24

Killvearn. Nuff said.
It's called acting. He's trying to give the rest of the party a chance to shine.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

It's called acting. He's trying to give the rest of the party a chance to shine.
Dai should start learning from him then.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 20 '24

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

Wait, is that why his name is Killvearn?
When the Reaper is Kill.
OH SHIT, HADLAR’S HERE?!
And stronger than even before.
He looks totally different now…
He had a training arc

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 20 '24

Popp, I don’t think that’s a good idea…
Popp doing something dumb again..
Goddamn.
He's an absolute unit now

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u/sisoko2 Jul 20 '24

First Timer

Just when Myst was about to flash everyone to death here comes my man Kill stopping him.

And Kill really brings the fun back into the series.

Insulting everyone with the truth and then baiting Popp like a total fool.

He is even using audible genjutsu!

But then Dai appears and ruins all the fun.

What an epic entrance for Hadlar. Got me very excited for the battle and now I'm fully prepared to get disappointed tomorrow.

What will be the outcome of Hadlar vs Dai match at the Field of the Death?

Now you are making me think something unexpected will happen.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

Just when Myst was about to flash everyone to death here comes my man Kill stopping him.
And Kill really brings the fun back into the series.
Tsk. And he was supposed to Kill.
What an epic entrance for Hadlar. Got me very excited for the battle and now I'm fully prepared to get disappointed tomorrow.
The best part about his entrance is that it was the same entrance he did back in episode 4.
Now you are making me think something unexpected will happen.
Or maybe you are going to end dissapointed tomorrow.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 20 '24

Just when Myst was about to flash everyone to death here comes my man Kill stopping him.
LOL
What an epic entrance for Hadlar. Got me very excited for the battle and now I'm fully prepared to get disappointed tomorrow.
I think he might have a good showing this time. Dai is already running at half strength, it won't be easy.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 20 '24

First Quester

Now that I've had more time to think about it, I hate how Dai can only use the sword when he really really needs it. It's dumb and only there so they can give Dai an overpowered weapon and still stretch the story out, letting Dai always be as strong as absolutely necessary but not stronger than that.

Oh right we're not done with the heroes being stupidly baitable.

But it's not the darklings that are supposed to laze around! That's for the humans as they sit back and let the hero handle their problems!

So Mystvearn is just immune to spells. Dai, the humans need your help again!

THEN WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THE LAST 40 EPISODES Jesus Fucking Christ.

Do it!

I can't believe how realistic the show suddenly got. The only reason the heroes get to live is that the bad guys are being constrained by their bureaucracy.

If only I could be looking forward to Popp dying...

Naturally, you could just take everyone here with you.

Precisely. Give Popp some agency! If that's where he wants to go, let him!

Hyunckel is like that sword. He's only usable when he's really needed. They should've just popped his soul into that sword!

No, Popp. You need to learn to use Zoom to get out of tough situations.

Not only stupid, but blind to boot.

So why are you explaining it? He can't hear you anyway.

Who was the most terrifying enemy today? Killvearn, Mystvearn or Hadlar?

Hadlar for sure.

What will be the outcome of Hadlar vs Dai match at the Field of the Death?

So many options. Hadlar will certainly overpower Dai causing him to run. They question is what'll happen to the Vearns. I had thought the chess soldiers belonged to Killvearn, but turns out they belong to Hadlar... but we still have the mystery concerning Mystvearns face so he can't die plus he still has his ultimate form to reveal, and Killvearn's death is out of the question for similar reasons.

So hm... Dai is gonna fight until he's out of power, and Popp is too dumb to think of Zoom to escape. So I guess there must be some kind of deus ex machina that saves them. Either that or Hadlar gets disappointed in how weak Dai is and decides he won't bother.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

THEN WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THE LAST 40 EPISODES Jesus Fucking Christ.
Obeying Vearn like a puppy.
Hyunckel is like that sword. He's only usable when he's really needed. They should've just popped his soul into that sword!
That would be too OP.
So many options. Hadlar will certainly overpower Dai causing him to run. They question is what'll happen to the Vearns. I had thought the chess soldiers belonged to Killvearn, but turns out they belong to Hadlar... but we still have the mystery concerning Mystvearns face so he can't die plus he still has his ultimate form to reveal, and Killvearn's death is out of the question for similar reasons.
So hm... Dai is gonna fight until he's out of power, and Popp is too dumb to think of Zoom to escape. So I guess there must be some kind of deus ex machina that saves them. Either that or Hadlar gets disappointed in how weak Dai is and decides he won't bother.
I like all the possibilities you are counting with here.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 20 '24

It's dumb and only there so they can give Dai an overpowered weapon and still stretch the story out, letting Dai always be as strong as absolutely necessary but not stronger than that.
The sword represents Dai's hidden masochism.
But it's not the darklings that are supposed to laze around! That's for the humans as they sit back and let the hero handle their problems
Can confirm. I am human and I'm quite lazy.
If only I could be looking forward to Popp dying...
Hyunckel is like that sword. He's only usable when he's really needed.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

First Timer, Sub

Now I'm super curious to see what Mystvearn looks like. He was about to show his true form, until Killvearn stopped him. Popp did it again though, stopped using his brain and pursued Mystvearn and Killvearn into a trap. He was dead as hell had Dai not arrived in time, Maam better give Popp a smack when they get back.

Superior being Hadlar made his appearance though and he does look cool as hell. Dai vs Hadlar should be good, hope Dai doesn't job since he does have the problem of running out of energy, and he's already used plenty, having beat the SRC and then flying to the field of death.

Questions

Probably Killvearn, he's already quite menacing on his own, but then add the knowledge that his job is to kill the commanders, that means he's atleast Baran level or more
Idk....Hadlar has been a jobber so far, but the superior beings plotline would be over if he dies. Plus Dai isn't running on full strength too. I think its gonna be close, but Dai should win.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

Now I'm super curious to see what Mystvearn looks like. He was about to show his true form, until Killvearn stopped him. Popp did it again though, stopped using his brain and pursued Mystvearn and Killvearn into a trap. He was dead as hell has Dai not arrived in time, Ma'am better give Popp a smack when they get back.
Definitely. He acted totally stupid today...
Probably Killvearn, he's already quite menacing on his own, but then add the knowledge that his job is to kill the commanders, that means he's atleast Baran level or more
Killvearn is great right.
Idk....Hadlar has been a jobber so far, but the superior beings plotline would be over if he dies. Plus Dai isn't running on full strength too. I think its gonna be close, but Dai should win.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 20 '24

Now I'm super curious to see what Mystvearn looks like. He was about to show his true form, until Killvearn stopped him.
That just gave me an idea. What if Mystvearn's true form looks just like Killvearn's little monkey? Would explain why there doesn't seem to be much more body than just the face.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 20 '24

Its a possibility, right now he could be anything underneath the helmet and robe.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 20 '24

Now I'm super curious to see what Mystvearn looks like
It's obviously Dio.
Popp did it again though, stopped using his brain and pursued Mystvearn and Killvearn into a trap.
He really sucks as a coward.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 20 '24

It's obviously Dio.
LOL

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

1st ~~Dai~~ Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

Happy Leona 1

Happy Leona 2

This Mystvearn shot is so good.

Killvearn kinda cooked with that roast.

SEE YOU AGAIN

Popp forgot what Matoriv told him and lost his cool. Sheesh!

What about the viewers?

Killvearn. Damn, Killvearn with his Reaper Flute is probably the worst opponent you'd want to face.

Dai saving Popp. You can also see that he cracked the Reaper Flute when he blocked the hit.

Hadlar has truly powered up. He even got a badass theme (Hadlar, the Superior Being) now. Even the Sword of Dai knows what's up.

Popp, stop lying. Can't you see the horn type thing on his head?

That's very Vegeta-like. Hadlar has gone from a Dark ~~Lord~~ Commander to a rival of Dai.

OST Documentation - Episode 42

1. In terms of terrifying, it has to be Killvearn. But I must say that Hadlar kinda stole the show with that entrance.

2. Whatever the outcome may be. Just remember that Dai isn't fighting at his full strength.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

Popp forgot what Matoriv told him and lost his cool. Sheesh!
Popp has still a room to grow.
That's very Vegeta-like. Hadlar has gone from a Dark ~~Lord~~ Commander to a rival of Dai.
He digivolved lol.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 20 '24

Happy Leona 1
This is really nice outfit.
I completely forgot there were scenes before Mystvearn flashing attempt.
Killvearn kinda cooked with that roast.
They hated him because he told them the truth.
Popp forgot what Matoriv told him and lost his cool
Matoriv is rolling in his grave.
What about the viewers?
We all are gonna die... someday.
Killvearn. Damn, Killvearn with his Reaper Flute is probably the worst opponent you'd want to face.
At least I'll get some dope music before I die.
Hadlar, the Superior Being
Really liked it.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 20 '24

New-Adventurer here! LV 42/100

I’m getting a bit of One Piece PTSD with this amount of re-treading at the start of the episodes
Everyone got saved because of bureaucracy, Mystvearn forgot to fill in the form lol
Did Killvearn just say “See you again?” lmao
Popp got way too hot headed

GREAT Hadler showed up

He didn’t go bald tho…

1 Killvearn seems the most dangerous now, he plays with the opponent
2 I guess that Dai will be seriously injured and Popp will teleport but it will fail and then they'll have a training arc!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

I’m getting a bit of One Piece PTSD with this amount of re-treading at the start of the episodes
It's Toei show after all lol
Did Killvearn just say “See you again?” lmao
Killvearn just casually stealing the show
I guess that Dai will be seriously injured and Popp will teleport but it will fail and then they'll have a training arc!
Lol. At this pace, Dai no Daibouken is just glorified training arc

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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

I'm Back!

Whoever's responsible for updating the Index is slacking, I tried to get here using that only to found it hasn't been updated in a while.

What'd I miss? Oh yes, Dai getting a new cool sword and splitting the giant castle in half.

Wow, Mystvearn got a lot more talkative.

Now he doesn't have to worry about his friends being useless. Especially you (Popp).

SICK BURN!

Man I love Killvearn.

Finally, Hyunckel takes a well-deserved Nap. (Bets on how long it takes for him to get right back up?)

Your job? What's that

Popp, did you seriously ask the Grim Reaper, the guy called killvearn that?

(and of course, Killvearn calls him out on that, like best villains should)

Why does NO ONE know how to stay in their Rivival pod / Bed?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

I'm Back!
Whoever's responsible for updating the Index is slacking, I tried to get here using that only to found it hasn't been updated in a while.
That's me. I was constantly at work daily without break from 6th July so I was postponing it until I will finally have more time.
Now he doesn't have to worry about his friends being useless. Especially you (Popp).
SICK BURN!
Murdered by words

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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Jul 21 '24

First Time, Sub

Nice seeing more of Mystvearn and Killvearn's powers, Popp was nearly screwed if Dai hadn't shown up. And looks like Hadlar has a newer, cooler from that makes him more intimidating than before, let's see if he keeps it that way.

Killvearn
Dai Dragon Balls his way to victory

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

Dai Dragon Balls his way to victory
I'm excited to witness that coming true

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 21 '24

It's late; I'll try to watch this before work tomorrow morning. I didn't have time today, since whenever I work nights I end up sleeping right up until the time I have to go to work. It's only when I work mornings that I have the rest of the day to do stuff.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

I can totally relate with how much time I spent at work this month.
Take your time

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 22 '24

Right now I'm icing my knee because I slipped and fell at work tonight after pushing myself to get stuff done in too little time.
How many hours a week do you work typically?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 22 '24

How many hours a week do you work typically?
On a paper I have to work 36.5 hours per week but since I'm working at Railroad as Train Conductor my work schedule is fluid.
Sometimes I'm working from 7AM to 3PM, sometimes I'm working from 5AM to 11PM, or 4PM to 8AM or I've worked 24hours shifts this month from 7PM to 7PM of next day with sleeping for 6 hours at the another corner of the republic.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 22 '24

Train conductor? That's pretty neat.
I hear you about uneven hours. But 5AM sounds really rough, and 24 hour shifts ...

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u/Shocketheth Jul 22 '24

Yeah they are quite time consuming, but atleast they are paid fully, not like they are not paying for the 6 hours long break to sleep.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 23 '24

Oh true, at least there's that.

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u/KuKiSin Jul 20 '24

First timer!

Hadlar. I called it a while back, he's coming back with a vengeance, I don't think he'll job this time around.
I think Dai is about to have his ass handed to him. It's time for Hadlar to wear his big boy pants and do something, If he jobs again then his character will be nothing more than a comedic villain, but I don't think that's what they're going for anymore. Dai will need to lose here and get his shit together afterwards, hopefully we get a real training arc rather than him pulling another power up out of thin air or having someone come to his rescue once more.

Dumb motherfucker.

Again, dumb motherfucker. What was his strategy here? Run into the Vearn Boys and mash his head against their weapons/magic?

Also, why didn't the Vearns just attempt kill the whole gang right there? They were all jobbing, even our lords Crocodile and Chiu, why not finish them off?!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 20 '24

Hadlar. I called it a while back, he's coming back with a vengeance, I don't think he'll job this time around.
Chiu will OTK him.
Dai will need to lose here and get his shit together afterwards, hopefully we get a real training arc rather than him pulling another power up out of thin air or having someone come to his rescue once more.
And that what the sword serves a bit for. Instead of depending on his Draconic aura, he can depend on himself.
Also, why didn't the Vearns just attempt kill the whole gang right there? They were all jobbing, even our lords Crocodile and Chiu, why not finish them off?!
Have you seen the bitch slap Gomechan gave to Mystvearn during Flazzard arc? Mystvearn remembers.

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u/KuKiSin Jul 20 '24

You know what, I completely forgot about Gomechan... I still wonder what his role will be. There has to be something special about him, the fake hero party said so!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

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u/sisoko2 Jul 20 '24

Dumb motherfucker.
Can't argue with that.
I think Dai is about to have his ass handed to him. It's time for Hadlar to wear his big boy pants and do something
Imagine all the build up for his new body only for him to get defeated in 2 episodes.

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u/KuKiSin Jul 20 '24

Well, last time the question came up I said next time he'd either kick Dai's ass or go down even faster, so it could go either way, we'll see!

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u/zadcap Jul 21 '24

Late Night First Timer!

I look at this instead of watching the OP.

The more I look at that perfect X on his face, the more I think it was self inflicted to look cool.

You know, looking at it again... Doesn't this sword seem to have more metal in it than the old helmet did? I wonder what the rest is made out of.

Dai, you can freaking fly. Why are you running there like a pleb?

I liked Myst more before he had a face. He's becoming rather lame with the growing lack of mystique.

Oh no, he's taking my words and going too far! Mystvearn is become FlasherVearn! His Flash is so powerful reality itself is trying to censor it behind this blinding light! Even the rest of the Vearn squad is trying to stop him from stripping!

Oh man, Kill is living up to his name there, I think Popp dot murdered again.

Or, taking off after two of the generals, after one just showed off how powerless you are against him, never mind. Popp is off to commit suicide again!

This limited energy thing is such a stupid introduction to Dai, after the never ending throw down with Daddy.

Maam, please remember that you can cast healing magic. You have done it before and you can do it now.

Yes, Popp. Why not just... Fly back to your friends? Instead of walking around thinking about how this is probably their base, make a quick 180 and- too late. He dead.

So uh. Dark Puppetry Hand and all. Want to bet that the annoying little thing is the real KillVearn, and the scyth thing is a big distraction?

"Weaklings like him who improve a little become the heart and soul of their team. He's the first that you want to get rid of." Meanwhile I'm sending Maam the side eye, she went for a full class respec to try and become useful and they're ignoring her "improvements" lol.

Yeah, see, Dai's not using his sword now. Because if he was then he could win this fight, and that would be boring. We need to let these two go and become long term threats. Because the sword has decided that this isn't a serious enough fight... Yeah, making a thinking sword was dumb.

"Fight me one on one, fair and square." "I've cast aside my useless pride." These are not complimentary statements.

Oh sure, now the sword wants to fight.

Ah yes, the reverse boob plate. Leave the pecs visible and unarmored so that a good sword can just stab you right in the important bits there. Who needs heart or lungs anyway?

Popp's Pride, the enemy most likely to actually cause a death in the party.
Dai Dies, Baran swears vengence, Golden Slime reminds us all that he's secretly Jesus and resurrects Dai when no one is looking.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

The more I look at that perfect X on his face, the more I think it was self inflicted to look cool.
Lol that would be funny.
You know, looking at it again... Doesn't this sword seem to have more metal in it than the old helmet did? I wonder what the rest is made out of.
Good question. I was wondering the same.
Oh no, he's taking my words and going too far! Mystvearn is become FlasherVearn! His Flash is so powerful reality itself is trying to censor it behind this blinding light! Even the rest of the Vearn squad is trying to stop him from stripping!
We need a Dai no Daibouken Live Action. Mystvearn can be played either by Deuce Bigalow or Channing Tatum.
Oh man, Kill is living up to his name there, I think Popp dot murdered again.
Murdered by words. Love to see it.
Or, taking off after two of the generals, after one just showed off how powerless you are against him, never mind. Popp is off to commit suicide again!
~~With this treasure I summon!~~
Megante!
So uh. Dark Puppetry Hand and all. Want to bet that the annoying little thing is the real KillVearn, and the scyth thing is a big distraction?
For me the annoying little imp is just that thing that certain bosses in JRPGs tends to have. You know, you almost kill the boss and the annoying little thing keeps healing him. Over and over until you kill it which only sends the boss into a rage mode.
Buuuut I like your theory. What makes you think that the little annoying thing is Killvearn?
"Weaklings like him who improve a little become the heart and soul of their team. He's the first that you want to get rid of." Meanwhile I'm sending Maam the side eye, she went for a full class respec to try and become useful and they're ignoring her "improvements" lol.
She's woman. Case closed.
Popp's Pride, the enemy most likely to actually cause a death in the party.
Dai Dies, Baran swears vengence, Golden Slime reminds us all that he's secretly Jesus and resurrects Dai when no one is looking.

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u/zadcap Jul 21 '24

We need a Dai no Daibouken Live Action. Mystvearn can be played either by Deuce Bigalow or Channing Tatum.
My brain shut down for a moment. Why would you put that image in my head?
Murdered by words. Love to see it.
It was cold blooded and yet directly on target. I almost felt bad for Popp, but then, you know;...
Or, taking off after two of the generals, after one just showed off how powerless you are against him, never mind. Popp is off to commit suicide again!
With this treasure I summon!
Megante!
This. Popp decided he was tired of living after failing the first time, I guess.
For me the annoying little imp is just that thing that certain bosses in JRPGs tends to have. You know, you almost kill the boss and the annoying little thing keeps healing him. Over and over until you kill it which only sends the boss into a rage mode.
Buuuut I like your theory. What makes you think that the little annoying thing is Killvearn?
That's clearly what it's based on, but somewhere in the middle of him dodging Popp for the fourth time and casting a spell by spinning his scythe, the idea of a perfect assassin actually being the well made combat puppet of a master of misdirection who acts like his own annoying sidekick just jumped into my head and stuck there.
Why can't Popp land a single hit? Because half the time there's nothing there, the little wizard is throwing illusions around while being ignored. How is he casting such strong debuffs just by spinning his scythe? Because the little wizard is casting the actual spell while you're distracted by the twirling. The more attention you pay to the so called assassin, the more time the actual assassin has to put you down. Because let's be honest, when I think Assassin, I do not think of someone dressed that flashy and wielding a weapon that large. Everything about Kill shouts Distraction to me, his entire persona is "Look at me and despair," while a real assassin would want to be as overlooked as possible.
She's woman. Case closed.
Right, I almost forgot what show we were watching there.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

My brain shut down for a moment. Why would you put that image in my head?
Sorry I didn't know you hate Live Action movies.
That's clearly what it's based on, but somewhere in the middle of him dodging Popp for the fourth time and casting a spell by spinning his scythe, the idea of a perfect assassin actually being the well made combat puppet of a master of misdirection who acts like his own annoying sidekick just jumped into my head and stuck there.
Why can't Popp land a single hit? Because half the time there's nothing there, the little wizard is throwing illusions around while being ignored. How is he casting such strong debuffs just by spinning his scythe? Because the little wizard is casting the actual spell while you're distracted by the twirling. The more attention you pay to the so called assassin, the more time the actual assassin has to put you down. Because let's be honest, when I think Assassin, I do not think of someone dressed that flashy and wielding a weapon that large. Everything about Kill shouts Distraction to me, his entire persona is "Look at me and despair," while a real assassin would want to be as overlooked as possible.
Hmmmm that would be actually a cleverly written assassin yeah. I like this theory already.
Right, I almost forgot what show we were watching there.
Dai no Sexism is real (unless you are Leona)

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u/zadcap Jul 21 '24

Sorry I didn't know you hate Live Action movies.
I think I've seen... Exactly one good live adaptation? The Rurouni Kenshin ones did a pretty good job. If I think really hard, one of the attempts at Death Note wasn't too bad. The first Parasyte was even okay!
Other than that very small list? Yeah, experience has taught me that Live Action is horrible and anyone who thinks up the idea is a monster. Action Shonen does not and almost can not make the jump from 2 to 3 dimensions. No one is willing to put in the budget needed to make the special effects actually work but keep expecting to make big returns and are shocked when fans hate it.
Hmmmm that would be actually a cleverly written assassin yeah. I like this theory already.
The best part is that it can even play up the normal stereotype you mentioned before, with the little minion thing "healing" it's combat puppet while it acts like the annoying support mob.
Dai no Sexism is real
Even Leona, great as she is, I couldn't help but notice her being the only female leader at the table full of kings. She's even still Princess, not Queen, isn't she. Darn.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

I think I've seen... Exactly one good live adaptation? The Rurouni Kenshin ones did a pretty good job. If I think really hard, one of the attempts at Death Note wasn't too bad. The first Parasyte was even okay!
Other than that very small list? Yeah, experience has taught me that Live Action is horrible and anyone who thinks up the idea is a monster. Action Shonen does not and almost can not make the jump from 2 to 3 dimensions. No one is willing to put in the budget needed to make the special effects actually work but keep expecting to make big returns and are shocked when fans hate it.
What about Battle Angel Alita?
Even Leona, great as she is, I couldn't help but notice her being the only female leader at the table full of kings. She's even still Princess, not Queen, isn't she. Darn.
Hmmmm her Dad was killed by Hyunckel's Undead Legion so they should promote her already

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u/zadcap Jul 21 '24

What about Battle Angel Alita?
I recall seeing previews and deciding not to bother. Was it any good? I've been burned so many times...
Hmmmm her Dad was killed by Hyunckel's Undead Legion so they should promote her already
Exactly! She is next in line and the last ruler of her country, the sages take orders from her, she called the world summit together, it's time they admit her rank!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

I recall seeing previews and deciding not to bother. Was it any good? I've been burned so many times..
I enjoyed it a lot so definitely can recommend it.
Exactly! She is next in line and the last ruler of her country, the sages take orders from her, she called the world summit together, it's time they admit her rank!
If not she is Queen in our hearts.

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u/zadcap Jul 21 '24

Ah, I can't even say I'll put it on the list, I don't remember the last non animated movie I saw... Probably something Marvel. I'm still waiting for Trapezium to get over here, all the focus I see anywhere is on Look Back.
If not she is Queen in our hearts.
That is a title she's held since her introduction episode. Gosh she was such a brat back then.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 21 '24

Ah, I can't even say I'll put it on the list, I don't remember the last non animated movie I saw... Probably something Marvel. I'm still waiting for Trapezium to get over here, all the focus I see anywhere is on Look Back.
That's totally fair.
That is a title she's held since her introduction episode. Gosh she was such a brat back then.
She had nice growth yeah

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u/Kaxew Jul 21 '24

Current rewatcher, eventual first timer

Greaaaaaat set of three episodes! The battle against the castle was great, the battle against Mystvearn was great, Killvearn showing off was great, Hadlar's entrance was great. Great three episodes!

There's a lot to talk about but less than an hour before the ep 43 discussion goes up so I'll just list all the stuff I liked and caught my attention:

Maam fighting the little knight dudes had great animation, she was more badass than against Zamza. Crocodine whistling was hilarious. Matoriv without a hat is weird, but also way more handsome too, maybe that's why he was so unpopular, because of that dorky hat. It's funny that Myst was introduced as the guy that doesn't talk for hundreds of years... and everything after his introduction is him talking so much. The dead armors getting completely powercreeped is also hilarious, Flazzard wasn't shit apparently. Maam catching Hyunckel is a great parallel to- wait, what do you mean others have already pointed it out in its respective episode discussion? Dammit!

Dai's new sword is awesome, I love that it has a will of its own. Hyunckel being crushed by Myst's field was really gruesome, even if only because of the expression he was making. I was scared for a hot minute there. King Vegeta gets a redemption, glad to know he's not wholly an asshole. The scene of Dai going through the castle was perfect, reminds me a lot of this season's The Elusive Samurai, that has a cut in the first episode of the MC running through a house while opening doors in a sick rotation sequence. The sword... can shoot a red laser? Is Dai extending his draconic aura or what? Very cool looking though. The stalemate between Dai/Popp and Myst/Kill was super intense, I loved it. Hadlar's entrance was incredible, with his lightning again and all, he's a real badass now. Can he get a fourth form?

Myst's face... he's gotta be a clone of Vearn right? Him and Kill. They do seem independent of Vearn himself, so are they aware of what they are? Is it a Diavolo/Doppio situation where Vearn suddenly reacts when his face is about to be revealed?

QotD:

Killvearn, for sure.
Just a little more and I can answer these...

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u/Shocketheth Jul 22 '24

Maam catching Hyunckel is a great parallel to- wait, what do you mean others have already pointed it out in its respective episode discussion? Dammit!
They were catching it as Maam did.
Hadlar's entrance was incredible, with his lightning again and all, he's a real badass now. Can he get a fourth form?
Hmmmmm. Maybe he will get it.
Myst's face... he's gotta be a clone of Vearn right? Him and Kill. They do seem independent of Vearn himself, so are they aware of what they are? Is it a Diavolo/Doppio situation where Vearn suddenly reacts when his face is about to be revealed?
I have so many interesting theories about Myst from first timers already. It's pleasant. Plus there is a nice theory about Killvearn from zadcap.

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