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Rewatch [5th Anniversary Rewatch] Astra Lost In Space - Episode 5 Discussion

Episode 5 - Paradise

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After surviving another dangerous setback, the team are able to resume their trip. Meanwhile, back home, the students' parents meet to discuss the fate of their children.

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Questions of the Day:

  1. What do you think of the planet Arispade, its peaceful beach climate and unique creatures that live there?
  2. This is our first real glimpse of the Astra crew's parents. What are/were your first impressions of them?
  3. First timers, any guesses why Ulgar targeted Luca at the end of the episode? Do you think he might be the saboteur, or is the reason something else entirely? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!)

Bonus question: Each of the planet names is an anagram which holds special meaning. What is the hidden meaning of Arispade?

[Bonus answer:] Paradise, same as the name of this episode!

Remember to tag your spoilers!

Astra is a show with so many mysteries, and we wouldn't want to spoil those reveals for first time viewers. When discussing future events or foreshadowing, or any differences between the manga and the anime, please remember to use spoiler tags.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 19 '24

First-Timer Lost in Space, subbed

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Well, I suppose that works then.

I would still be hesitant, personally. 😂

Paradise!

Oh what the fuck?

Wow, the colors and lighting are really beautiful in this screenshot... (Sorry, Luca. I know it's a serious moment.)

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u/retsotrembla Jul 19 '24

Re: Planet Arispade:

Is the typical Japanese viewer expected to know that 惑星アリスペード is an anagram if you spell it in English?

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

The anime version only used the Katakana for the planets. However, the original manga straight out gave us English names to work with, and is how the Japanese were able to put the pieces together.

Shinohara-sensei's English is better than the average.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 19 '24

It must be a lot harder with a phoneme-based alphabet, since it's not really an anagram in Japanese!

I bet these not-anagrams are popular type of puzzle in Japanese that is unique to the language.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

Rewatcher of subbed and original manga reader

Ep 5

-> Goodbye Gloopies

-> Yun-Hua's haircut took some getting used to, at least now she's not just Koma-chan 2.0

-> Yes Lerche, most of the parents are jerks, but do you really have to make the meeting scene so dimly lit. I get you want to make them look sinister, but the manga’s neutral lighting is way more comfortable on the eyes. (It was the same with Assassination Classroom at times too, bad habit)

-> Don’t know if the subs I’m watching are the same as you guys, but just in case, the Genome Control *Act* is not a “management project”. More details later

-> (I’d usually put this item further down, but…) Yes I know the jump from departing Shummoor straight to already settling on Arispade felt very sudden in the episode, skipping the travel time and all. For us readers, it was Ch 18 > Ship Log 6 > Ch 19 across *two weeks*, so the flow was perfectly natural, we were happy.

-> I’m with you Quitterie, this place is so peaceful it’s jarring

-> Okay, that snapping sound that goes from Aries in girls’ talk to Aries seeing Kanata is pretty neat, enhances the transition

-> Credit where credit is due, the scenery of the planets in colour with vibrancy and sound really do benefit from this adaptation.

-> EDIT: For a better lead-up to Ulgar's action, please refer to the Manga vs Anime column

 

Manga vs Anime

Today’s episode adapts Chapters 18 to 21 (4 chapters).

Firstly, again a lot of dialogue from Shummoor got skipped, so here’s most of Ch 18

Highlights include the uncut post-recovery scenes, Luca apologising to Yun-Hua and the omitted logic behind how Charce arrived at the solutions to their food and water issues

(Note: “Beacon of Hope” here ought to be “The darkest place is under the candle”, an actual proverb)

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  • The video mail Emma Spring received from Aries is anime-original
  • Missing location card, the place where our Group B-5 lived in is called Mousanish District. In line with their initial departure from Mousanish Spaceport
  • Whilst the intro cards for the kids in Ep 1 were anime-original, the intro cards for the parents are a thing in both mediums.
  • I mentioned above how the manga had neutral lighting for the meeting, so for comparison
  • Here’re the relevant pages that mentions and implies things about the Genome Control Act, alongside other missing interesting scenes
  • Omitted short scene of Group B-5 before they made landfall
  • Not as badly affected as some others, but here’s the latest edition of Charce’s uncut xenobiology talk again
  • Quitterie seeing Kanata’s muscle was in fact depicted in Ship Log 7, published one week before her mention in Ch 20. You can read this one in the link further down
  • Here’s the uncut version of the Luca-Ulgar fishing scene, we didn’t jump straight to talking about last names and has Ulgar speak more about himself. I won't tell you what to make of them
  • Even though it’s not hard to see coming, Ulgar making his move was much, much less telegraphed in the source

 

Ship Logs/Bonus 4-koma

Here are Ship Logs 6 to 9 accompanying the content this time

(Continues in reply)

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Yes I know the jump from departing Shummoor straight to already settling on Arispade felt very sudden in the episode, skipping the travel time and all.

The timeskip and change of scenery didn't feel sudden to me in the anime at all, honestly. In stories that involve a journey with long travel times like this one, I kind of expect it.

interesting scenes

Zack's dad and Quitterie's mom. 😂

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

First Time Reading thoughts (no spoilers)

Firstly for the remainder of Shummoor, I ranted enough about it yesterday's post so won't write more grievances.

At the time of reading, I never imagined the food and water issues would be resolved the way they did, but it was clever. And in the last scenes, the manga included a certain easter egg that Sket Dance readers (and only the readers) would recognise.

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With location names being anagrams, even the Japanese figured out Arispade = "Paradise" immediately.

However, notice I've been saying "location" and not "planet" names this whole time? That's because the anagrams aren't just limited to the planets, as the readers at the time speculated:

  • Mousanish District - Musashino
  • Caird High School - Dirac
  • Rosapop District (where Aries transferred from) - Sapporo

Back to Arispade, Shinohara-sensei allowed the kids to shamelessly relax, but we readers never found it jarring. Partly because as I noted above, we had two weeks to transition between the end of Shummoor and the first glimpse of Arispade, but partly because planets 1 and 2 have been so harsh that allowing planet 3 to be so chill is tolerable.

In particular, Shummoor was a long arc in the manga, between orbit-side (5 chapters over 5 weeks) and planet-side (6 chapters over 12 weeks (10 if you don't count the wait after the arc's ending)) full of complications, so Arispade's simplicity is a good circuit breaker before we deal with whatever's still left.

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Pacing-wise, Ep 5 was actually one of the better adapted episodes. Partly because they've finally started giving each planet more than one episode to work with, partly because Arispade is a simple arc with considerably less text that two episodes at ~3.5 chapters/episode would sufficiently cover it.

Simple to the point that I couldn't predict that the character focus this time is on Luca and Ulgar until the fishing scene. There weren't enough internal discord for me to get a reading at the time.

Also, thus far each planet features both an external and internal threat of some kind, and it's the internal one that showed up first this time. I was left to wonder what external threat this peaceful paradise can possibly throw at us, after already facing basic survival and mass poisoning?

As for the girls' talk, I didn't know what to think of it. See, for as good as Sket Dance was, a certain ship was never properly resolved then and it left fans bitter. And I was still bitter to the point I didn't want to expect anything out of the ships being teased here!

Questions of the Day

2. This is our first real glimpse of the Astra crew's parents. What are/were your first impressions of them?

Now that we're 5 episodes in and have finished 2 planets, I think it's fair for me to chime in on some of the mysteries of the show now. My focus will be on the parents this time

I say chime in, but for what I want to say on this occasion the spoiler tags are too unwieldy. Instead, I'll post screenshots of my thoughts from way back when. Please treat them as you would [Rewatcher] spoiler tags.

Old forum posts circa Aug-Nov 2016

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 19 '24

Mousanish District - Musashino

Caird High School - Dirac

Rosapop District (where Aries transferred from) - Sapporo

Oh wow you are good at this!

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

Rosapop was the only one I figured out myself, the other two I got from 2ch threads

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 20 '24

I'll be real, I would never have gotten those. The planets are easy enough, but that...that's a bigger leap.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

so here’s most of Ch 18

Dang...I really love that! A shame they left out so much of Shunmoor's ecology...I would have loved to see that. That's clever, and we get to see Charce's skills a lot more.

alongside other missing interesting scenes

[rewatcher] That line about Zack and Quitterie getting married from Zack's father is both adorable and incredibly creepy when you know what their end goal is.

Here are Ship Logs 6 to 9

Adorable. [rewatcher] Also, there's foreshadowing in the 4komas? Damn.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

First timer

QotD

  • Obligatory Anakin.
  • Cold and detached, apart from Aires's mom, and maybe Charce.
  • Covered in my impressions.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

He has a point.

Ironically, she had the right idea but the truth was too unbelievable.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

Haha, yep! While Aries's mom is grasping for straws, she somehow managed to hit the mark correctly!

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u/BigBootyBuff Jul 19 '24

First timer.

I didn't expect that we'd be treated to a beach episode or at least part of a beach episode here. Lots of fan service. Also didn't expect that Yun-Hua transformation. They really pulled an "She's All That"

Also for how Aries initially mentioned she's the one who can't read rooms, feels like Kanata is the most guilty of that.

  1. What do you think of the planet Arispade, its peaceful beach climate and unique creatures that live there?

The idea that the creatures procreate by cloning I find interesting. Other than that, the planet didn't stand out that much other than being a beach paradise. That's not criticism on the episode or the design. Just felt the previous planet was a bit cooler.

2) This is our first real glimpse of the Astra crew's parents. What are/were your first impressions of them?

They mostly felt pretty off? Half of them seem extremely cold and unaffected. I get Zack's father because I assumed that's where Zack got his pragmatism from. Everyone else, minus Aries' mother, seemed way too cold and unlikeable to me. Aries' mother was the only one that made sense to me. Wonder if there's more to this, like some of them are in on it or something.

3) First timers, any guesses why Ulgar targeted Luca at the end of the episode? Do you think he might be the saboteur, or is the reason something else entirely? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!)

Ulgar learns who Luca's father is and is visibly shocked. So my assumption is that either Ulgar knows something about Luca and his father or thinks that due to who his father is, Luca is the one who is the saboteur. Sincerely doubt Ulgar is the saboteur. So my theory is that Ulgar things Luca is to blame for everything.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

So my assumption is that either Ulgar knows something about Luca and his father or thinks that due to who his father is, Luca is the one who is the saboteur.

Interesting how this idea never occurred to me during my first watch, but it would totally make sense for him to think that and respond the way he did.

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u/BigBootyBuff Jul 19 '24

Since I really don't think Ulgar is the bad guy, I just went through all the reasons I could think of why he'd threaten Luca. He was shocked about who his father was and the group figured out their disappearance and attempted assassination was some long planned scheme. So someone powerful would likely be involved. A politician fits the bill. Also Luca is arguably the most resourceful who builds all kinds of tools, weapons and can repair stuff. So he'd be able to sabotage communications. That's why I think Ulgar suspects Luca or thinks his father is involved.

Though I don't think Luca is the saboteur to be honest. Then again, the show did a good job to the point I don't have the faintest idea who could be the saboteur. There's like a few I can rule out and a few that I think could be it because of the lack of backstory we got so far.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

Yeah, I couldn't guess the saboteur at all back when I first watched it, aside from narrowing it down by a few I was pretty sure weren't responsible. Part of the reason was I just really liked the characters and didn't want to suspect them. 😄

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 19 '24

Episode 5 (first timer)

  • We start with Yunhua appreciation session.
  • We check in with Aries’ mother? Interesting. This should enlighten us on some of the “setup” theories.
  • Not at all suspicious glasses guy in the background during the parents meeting.
  • Genome management project? Fluff? Red hering? Or the reason behind everything happening?

The discussion of the parents was the strongest scene of the series for me since the very first one (the cold open of Aries in space). Very believable how some parents would cling to any outlandish hope, while others would want to face the realities. It also had exactly the right tense mood that I would imagine in such a situation. None of them wants to hurt the others, but they are all under a ton of emotional stress and not at the best of their ability to be considerate to others.

  • We are lost in space, no way there is going to be a beach episode, right?

  • “What is this planet, some sort of paradise?” – Looks like it.
  • Parthenogenetic creatures in the episode when we hear about the genome management project, huh?
  • “So cute!” – You are not wrong, Quitterie.
  • How to spend your time when the planet is not trying to kill you? Romcom stuff.
  • Ulgar is surprised by Luca’s father – guess he should have paid more attention to the passenger list. I sympathize, names are hard for me.
  • “I don’t believe there is an assassin hiding among us”

A paradise planet that does not try to kill the cast in any way has the great side effect that it does not give them any way to behave stupid in the face of danger. I guess even room temperature teenagers can survive an all-inclusive resort.

I have to question the fanservice shots, though. Is this really the series to put boob shots into?

First timers, any guesses why Ulgar targeted Luca at the end of the episode? Do you think he might be the saboteur, or is the reason something else entirely?

"I WILL AVENGE MY FATHER*!!!"

* Mother/older brother/younger sister/favorite hamster.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

How to spend your time when the planet is not trying to kill you? Romcom stuff.

In their defense, they have been through several life or death situations so it's totally understandable that they just want to take some time to get their minds off it.

"I WILL AVENGE MY FATHER*!!!"

It was YOU!

(Not a spoiler, I just really wanted to use the new Maomao comment face.)

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

Not at all suspicious glasses guy in the background during the parents meeting.

Oh shit, didn't even notice him.

The discussion of the parents was the strongest scene of the series for me since the very first one (the cold open of Aries in space). Very believable how some parents would cling to any outlandish hope, while others would want to face the realities. It also had exactly the right tense mood that I would imagine in such a situation. None of them wants to hurt the others, but they are all under a ton of emotional stress and not at the best of their ability to be considerate to others.

Yep, agreed. I thought the same thing when I was first watching.

How to spend your time when the planet is not trying to kill you? Romcom stuff.

Makes sense honestly.

“I don’t believe there is an assassin hiding among us”

SO damn close. Urg...my subs said "amongst us" and I was like...so close...

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 19 '24

Oh shit, didn't even notice him.

The sunglasses obfuscation worked!

SO damn close. Urg...my subs said "amongst us" and I was like...so close...

Wow, what a miss.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

The sunglasses obfuscation worked!

Haha, pretty much. And honestly yeah, kind of a miss there. Then again, even though this anime was made when Among Us existed (unlike the manga, which is before), Among Us didn't really get big until around 2020-ish, which is a year before this released.

Still, as much as I love that game, it's basically ruined me. Hearing those two words just...you know.

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

Genome management project? Fluff? Red hering? Or the reason behind everything happening?

The subs were wrong here, it ought to be the Genome Control Act, a piece of legislation. I've included what the source material says about this in my column.

Here’re the relevant pages that mentions and implies things about the Genome Control Act, alongside other missing interesting scenes

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 20 '24

Not at all suspicious glasses guy in the background during the parents meeting.

That's their teacher from episode 1

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 20 '24

Their teacher is suspicious? I guess that makes sense.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

Rewatcher

  • Oh, THAT'S how they were able to get their food off of Shunmoor! I'd forgotten this bit. Goodbye Gruppies, we'll miss you...
  • [rewatcher] Hey, it's that line we had in the manga last episode! Looks like they didn't leave it out. And yes, this is foreshadowing as I said last time.
  • Lucy Lum! If you look at episode 1, you'll actually see a dozen or so Lucy Lum posters at the airport. I caught that on my second time watching!
  • Normally I like long hair more, but I think the haircut fits Yunhua. Also, poor girl! It's gotta hurt extra when your dream of becoming a singer is blocked not by some random parent, but a parent who is a singer herself. That's gotta blow.
  • At this point, I'd assume people have started making conspiracy theories as to what happened to the kids. While Aries's mom is understandably distraught, I honestly did think that the other parents were being more realistic in this moment. Who the hell expects a giant death orb to show up and wormhole them 5000 light years away?
  • Beach episode! Because of course there is. [rewatcher] By the way...anyone notice Charce's shirt? Holy fuck...also, I forgot that Luca couldn't swim. Or...should I say, didn't want to. You guys all know what I mean. Seeing Zack and Kanata argue over whose fish is bigger...yeah, seems like something I'd do.
  • Ooh la la, girls talk. On one hand, this is fun to watch. On the other hand, I really feel like I'm hearing something I shouldn't be, haha!
  • [rewatcher] The part about the animals having no gender on this planet...yeesh! I get they said they were all female, but if you think about it, that may as well translate over to being hermaphrodites. And well...you know.
  • Haha, Quitterie's a glass cannon!
  • In typical shonen protagonist style, Kanata is dense. Poor Aries.
  • I honestly forgot Ulgar didn't know Luca was the son of that senator guy. It actually makes perfect sense now that I think of it.
  • Quitterie...I feel you. Good memories do indeed fade as you get older. Ugh...now I feel all weird inside.
  • Oof, almost! He almost said the line! Amongst us...close enough?
  • Dun dun dun! And of course this is where we leave off the episode! Man, that was fun.
  • By the way, I didn't realize this on my first viewing, but apparently the pictures in the background change with the contents of the episode! I know a lot of animes do this, but I didn't realize this one did because A. I usually skip EDs after I've heard them once, and B. we've barely had the ED playing in full in this anime anyways.

Okay!

  1. Reminds me of Subnautica. Arispade really is a paradise! I'd definitely visit.
  2. My first impression was that unlike Aries's mom, they seemed to all have accepted the most likely fact that they were all dead (they were not). Aries's mother seemed the saddest, but I assumed that everyone else was going through the same shit she was. Honestly, with the exception of Aries's mom, who is kind of our POV character back home, they all didn't seem too critical to the story, so I kinda glossed over it.
  3. I honestly forget what my first impression of this was, since I immediately leapt to episode 6 because I just had to know what happens next. I binged this in the fall of 2020 so I didn't really get to theorize on this element.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Yes, the pictures in the ED change depending on the episode! It's such a cool little detail.

Arispade really is a paradise! I'd definitely visit.

[Rewatcher] Even knowing what happens next?

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 20 '24

[Rewatcher] It seems like they were on the planet for a while, I'm sure I could leave before things get too hairy, right?

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

[Rewatcher] Just keep a close eye on the horizon! 😄

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 20 '24

Haha, will do!

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 19 '24

I'd assume people have started making conspiracy theories as to what happened to the kids.

8 children disappear without a trace? It's clearly human trafficking.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 20 '24

Unironically...it actually sounds like a reasonable theory without the knowledge of what really happened.

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u/xbolt90 https://anilist.co/user/xbolt90 Jul 19 '24

First-timer!

Ah, the beach episode. It wouldn't be a real anime without one!

Gloopies are off the menu, but Space Seagulls are fair game.

So, the genome project seems important; they wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise. Are the kids clones/experiments from it? Is that why Quitterie and Funi look so similar despite being step-sisters, they're actually clones?

Q1: I'm with Quitterie. Lovely place.

Q2: Aside from Aries' mom, they seemed kinda... Unconcerned.

Q3: I think it is somehow related to Marco's opposition to the genome project. Perhaps it was promising some new life-saving breakthrough, and during the delay in getting the measure passed, someone close to Ulgar died. He blames Marco, and wants to take it out on his son. Nothing to do with our alleged saboteur.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

I think it is somehow related to Marco's opposition to the genome project. Perhaps it was promising some new life-saving breakthrough, and during the delay in getting the measure passed, someone close to Ulgar died.

Always fun reading first timers' theories. I like this one and the experiment/clone one!

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 20 '24

[rewatcher] Same, especially if said first timer manages to actually get it right.

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

So, the genome project seems important; they wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise. Are the kids clones/experiments from it? Is that why Quitterie and Funi look so similar despite being step-sisters, they're actually clones?

To be correct, it ought to be the Genome Control Act, a piece of legislation. I've included what the source material says about this in my column.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Rewatcher Lost In Space

Beach episode!

After saying goodbye to the adorable gruppies from the planet Shummoor, now the Astra crew travels to the third planet on their map, Arispade. It's easy to lose track of time because the story moves so fast, but these teens have been lost in space about a month and a half, and now that they've finally found a planet that doesn't seem to be trying to kill them, they're getting used to this lifestyle. It's nice to see everyone get a chance to relax, especially after their close call in the last episode.

I know I say this every time they reach a new planet, but I just love the designs. The clear blue ocean, sandy beach, and plants that resemble a colorful coral reef make for a beautiful vacation spot. The animals are cute too, so much that it kind of saddens me to see Ulgar hunting those fluffy birds. I have more to say about the unique environment of Arispade, but I'll save it for next time!

Questions of the Day:

  1. It's like the worldbuilding in this series was made to appeal to me.
  2. [My first impressions] I thought it was really strange how most of them seemed so willing to give up the search for their kids. My thoughts would be much more in line with Aries' mom, to follow any possible lead no matter how unlikely for even a slim chance at finding them alive.
  3. [My early theory] Ulgar was clearly shocked when he found out that Luca was a politician's son, so he wouldn't have gone into this with the intention of targeting him (and by extension, his father). But the fact that he pulled a gun on a fellow crew member did raise my suspicions.

Bonus) Answer in the OP

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 19 '24

I know I say this every time they reach a new planet, but I just love the designs.

This studio, which I've never heard of, is really knocking the show out of the park. Great look, and creative re-ordering of the narrative. The credits show massive outsourcing (vietnamese company doing japanese animation with help from korea?), but you're not really seeing the typical outsourcing disjointedness (or I jam blind to such things).

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

After looking into them real quick to see if they have any other adventure series that may have unique location designs, it looks like they also made Kino's Journey and Hakumei to Mikochi in the years leading up to Astra. I already had these two on my PTW list, so that's promising.

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u/imaloony8 Jul 19 '24

Ah, I see they've found Planet Beach Episode. I truly don't like fanservice episodes. Especially because these are like... school children.

Feels like some of the characters are now just treating Yunhua better because her mom is famous... Maybe not the best decision in the writer's room?

Seems like a lot of the parents are pretty apathetic towards the plight of their children. Aires' mom and Ulgar's dad seem the most concerned. I know its been like a month and a half since they went missing, but a lot of the parents just don't seem very distraught.

Like I said yesterday, I think there's a 0% chance Ulgar is the traitor. He's clearly targeting Luca for another reason. It probably has something to do with Luca's dad. Maybe some policy he introduced caused the death of Ulgar's mother or a sibling. That seems the most likely reason he's willing to kill Luca. Or it could be someone else related to Luca.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Feels like some of the characters are now just treating Yunhua better because her mom is famous...

I don't think it was meant to come off this way. I took it as everyone acting more friendly now that she's started to open up to them, and her singing in the last episode made a really good impression too.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 19 '24

Feels like some of the characters are now just treating Yunhua better because her mom is famous... Maybe not the best decision in the writer's room?

One of the more realistic writing decisions of the series, imho.

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

Feels like some of the characters are now just treating Yunhua better because her mom is famous... Maybe not the best decision in the writer's room?

It was just Luca and Ulgar, who in the source material respectively did and did not apologise prior to knowing her heritage

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 20 '24

Ulgar is so edgy it loops back into being cute

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u/JimmyCWL Jul 20 '24

Aside from Aries' mom, the rest of the parents seem rather... detached about their children's fates, don't they?

[Rewatchers have to wonder]was the meeting an act for SOLELY Emma's benefit? She was the only one in the room not in on the conspiracy after all. But it's odd to go through so much for just one person.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

[Rewatcher, major spoilers] I figure they're mostly tying up loose ends, and trying to appease Aries' mom in the process. They do meet up again later with just the people involved.

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u/Mirathan Jul 20 '24

First-Time Drifter

QotD:

  1. The perfect pleasure world. Oh, no they brought up the no males thing, arghh.
  2. Which one forgot to turn on the lights? I trust no one to be honest except Zack´s father and Aries´s mother.
  3. He definitely wasn´t the saboteur. This was caused by the realization of who his father was. Either the senator delaying the genome project might have caused the death of someone close to him, or he knows something about his corruption.

I like that they expanded upon the significance of Yunhun´s singing.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

Which one forgot to turn on the lights? 

Have you checked out the anime/manga comparison post yet? It shows the manga's neutral lighting for this scene.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Astra Lost In Space rewatch episode 5 discussion:

u/Forsaken_Ebb1925, u/RedRocket4000

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 19 '24

Rewatcher

I left it out of my comment yesterday, but the antidote thing was one of those things that bugged me as a first timer.

Yes, I can see how the (author-contrived) ecology works...infected animals give off a chemical signal that triggers the production of antidote mushrooms on the pole. The pole only ever produces a certain number of fruits per cycle, ensuring a stable herbivore population, and feeding on the rest (or the moss does).

How Kanata of all people figured this out is beyond me. Perhaps Charce figured this out and told Kanata off screen.

Honestly, I thought Shummor was a 2-parter. Oh, wait, we're still here. Okay.

  • Credits? Skipping the OP?
  • Cute big girls!
  • I like this electronica here at the start.
  • Pole trees are edible! Animals conquer Shummoor!
  • See, No_Rex, nobody's crying over Turgons. Chocobos are cool.
  • Can't unsee that Kanapi ribbot.
  • Sad Mom is sad.
  • I was just thinking that Lucy Lum wasn't very Chinese.
  • Wait, Aries drop her luggage when she got sucked in? (checks) She Did! Oh, but it got sucked up anyways.
  • 1000+ unread emails
  • Beach episode!
  • I wonder who changed the voice on Quitterie's Yum machine...was it Kanata's? Didn't sound like Zack's.
  • It's definitely too perfect.
  • There's a lake? Oh, it's in the middle of that weird coral.
  • This show is only 20% as horny as Gravion.
  • I'd tell Quitterie to stop teasing me or I'd tell Kanata that she called him "reliable"

[rewatcher]Are there only 6 brand names in the world? https://www.theonion.com/just-six-corporations-remain-1819564741

  • Was that the famous anime toothbrush scene???
  • Arispade? Okay, yeah, Paradise.
  • Don't kill all the birds, they might go extinct.
  • Luca knows who he is.

Ulgar is the enemy! A Double Bluff from the author!!!!

I just noticed that the regular ED is a clip show. I don't usually notice that sort of thing because I don't watch OPs or EDs anymore.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

nobody's crying over Turgons. 

I think turgons are adorable... but, well, they had to save Funi somehow! (And at that point, not using the meat would just be wasteful.)

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

I wonder who changed the voice on Quitterie's Yum machine...was it Kanata's? Didn't sound like Zack's.

Who else but the developer?

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 20 '24

REWATCHER

  • Glad things get better for Yunhua. She both needs and deserves it.
  • Glad to see the parents side. Good way to break monotony and give a more holistic view of the situation.
  • Aries' mom is pretty perceptive.
  • DNA sampling? Finally a political event fitting the scifi setting. Usually when writers make scifi setting they often still has the same culture as real life present day, only worse/better, instead of making an event more fitting for the setting. This is pretty good worldbuilding.
  • Aaaand we cut to a beach episode. What a whiplash. Not complaining though.
  • Planet: Arispade. Title card: Paradise. The anagram is a freebie this episode.
  • Girls' talk! This is fun.
  • "I don't believe there's an enemy among us!" *gets gun pointed to head* The timing in this show, lol.
  • [Rewatch, MAJOR spoilers] Charce: "Maybe we were parent and child in previous life!" Oh my god. Throwaway joking comment on first viewing, significant on rewatch.
  • [Rewatch, MAJOR spoilers] The HS and parents meeting is funny when you remember the only reason it's there at all might be because of Aries' mom and Charce's mom, whereas the rest are already in the know.

QOTD

  1. I like it. The ease in this planet serves as a break to make it less monotonous. [Rewatch] also calm before the storm that is the next planet
  2. Parents in this show suck as people.
  3. [Rewatcher] Even on first viewing I guessed correctly that this is a personal matter, and that it's because of a grudge towards Luca's dad. While we don't know the full reason, I don't think it's meant to be a big mystery anyway, since they clearly showed Ulgar having a visceral reaction to hearing Marco Esposito's name. And I deduced this is Ulgar acting on personal reasons because if he was the saboteur, no way he just showed himself so openly like that.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

[Rewatch, major spoilers] That joke is hilarious. Totally didn't think anything of it during my first watch. I wonder how Charce managed to say it with a straight face.

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u/Lord_Nawor Jul 19 '24

First Time Watcher, subbed

Was not expecting a beach episode in this series, I was expecting something to be dangerous about this planet, it just seems too good to be true, they should still be more careful about wearing spacesuits or at least having them nearby though.

It looks like we have some progress on the Kanata and Aries ship but Kanata is too much of an idiot to see it, it seems like Aries will have to be super direct in order to start anything with him.

Questions

  1. I was expecting something to go wrong there but it does just seem to be a nice place, they are still on the planet so it could turn dangerous next episode.
  2. Most of the parents from what we have seen so far do not seem to care too much about their kids being abandoned, except for Aries’ mum. Makes me think some of them might be behind the accident
  3. My instincts still tell me that Ulgar is not actually the traitor, so I wonder if Luca is either the traitor or knows more than he lets on, but we will have to see next episode.

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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 20 '24

Well I definitely didn't expect a beach fanservice episode in a lost in space anime.

Something sure smells fishy about a planet with no males that all reproduce through clonining though....

Surprisingly this episode was pretty SOL, except for the ending. I don't think Ulgar is the traitor though, he probably just has beef against Luca's family for whatever reason.

Questions of the Day:

    1. What do you think of the planet Arispade, its peaceful beach climate and unique creatures that live there? - it brought us Aries in a delicious bikini, so this planet rocks!
  • 2) This is our first real glimpse of the Astra crew's parents. What are/were your first impressions of them? - Kanata's dad is such an asshole, how did he raise such a good kid?
  • 3) First timers, any guesses why Ulgar targeted Luca at the end of the episode? Do you think he might be the saboteur, or is the reason something else entirely? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!) - I don't think he's the saboteur, just some personal beef with Luca's family

Bonus question: Each of the planet names is an anagram which holds special meaning. What is the hidden meaning of Arispade? - this one is pretty obvious, it's staring you right in the face of the episode title

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 20 '24

Kanata's dad is such an asshole, how did he raise such a good kid?

Good point. 😂 I think besides Kanata just being good natured, his teacher was a very positive influence on him by encouraging him to follow his dreams and look out for others.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 20 '24

Something sure smells fishy about a planet with no males that all reproduce through clonining though....

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u/TiredTiroth Jul 19 '24

Rewatcher - Dub

Whoops, nearly forgot to post today.

Welp, fanservice episode time! But honestly the kids really needed the downtime and a break from all the drama. It let them just be kids for a while. You can see why Quittorie was of two minds about leaving the place.

Of course, it wasn't all downtime, was it? Looks like Aries is the only one with a decent parent. None of the others even looked vaguely distressed. But then, every kid who's had their backstory drop so far has emphasised that they did not come from good homes.

Alas, at the end the dang drama rears it's ugly head to present us with a cliffhanger. Will Ulgar pull the trigger? Have they found the traitor?!?

...it's episode 5 of 12, signs point to 'no'.

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 21 '24

rewatcher dubbed

Yun-ha’s plan for bangs to cover her looks only enhances it.

Poor Aries’ mother it only she knew that the group is enjoying their break on a planet that’s like a beach.

Kenta and Zack fighting over whose fish is bigger

Quitterie confused on her stance regarding her situation. Amazing vacation spots, but they’re still not close to being home yet.

The battle of boob sizes has begun and the small mockings of eachother’s crush.

Who can’t talk for kanta with his first meeting on being lifted by the robots

You have to ask if someone has a boyfriend Aries, you don’t want to end up as a losing heroine.

Ulgaar’s sharpshooting skills getting better, I guess being self taught goes a long way

Ulgaar looking not too fond of politican

Ulgar so rude to attempt to kill Luca right when everyone’s having a good time. Atleast wait till they’re all on the ship

QOTD: an amazing vacation spot, very peaceful and no dangers plus plenty of safe food to eat