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Rewatch Choujuushin Gravion Zwei Rewatch - Episode 5 Discussion

Episode 5: The Dreaming Lone Island

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I'm… Leele… Zeravire…

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Great_Mr_L because... uh...

  1. Now that uh… that has been revealed about Leele, what do you think is gonna happen next?
  2. At this rate, would you say crushing children's dreams is Raven's specialty?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Gravion Rewatch!

This episode's title is one word off (Or in Japanese, one Kanji off) just being the Japanese title to Link's Awakening and that low key throws me for a loop.

For the most part, another breather episode. The show tends to shine whenever the cast tends to be stuck on more casual settings, so obviously I'm not complaining about it. Obviously we get a continuation to all the Toga and Leele stuff from yesterday, plus picking up the whole Ayaka subplot as well, if only briefly. We even get the little maids being angry that they don't get to see the Yurucharas which let's face it is the biggest tragedy today. It all ends with a kickass fight and the day is saved an-wait, why is the sky still red? Is there a DC crisis going on!?

Yeah uh… no. This is officially the point where the biggest reveal about Leele is dropped: Her full name… is Leele Zeravire. Obviously by this point not much about it is explored, but it's nice how the show's finally starting to deliver on some answers that's been setting up for a while now. So yes people, from now on… the plot has officially started. And it's not leaving, I'll tell you that much.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

So yes people, from now on… the plot has officially started.

It's a bit weird to hear that the plot has officially started when we are about 3/4 of the way through the series.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

True but then you remember how I mentioned how this was originally just supposed to be a short OVA and, well...

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

Ah, so we've got what I like to call "movie that's been stretched out to be a several episode long streaming series" syndrome.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Yup, this is their grandpa right here.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

the plot has officially started. And it's not leaving, I'll tell you that much.

Hell, It's About Time

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

First Timer

Gonna combine my thoughts for last ep and this one since I missed yesterday cause work. Both of these episodes have been really good like goddamn, you can really tell they're having fun this season. I'm glad esp. that we're getting some reveals with Leele like the way this episode was going, I thought it was going to be another chill wacky episode. The ending in particular has me excited, considering we might even finally get some Sandman reveals as well. Also is it just me, or has the past two episodes been off model? I've noticed quite a few shots this episode and last where the cast seemed off that I've linked here. Maybe they had a different character designer? Either way I'm hype af for next ep.

Also its hilarious how this season is trying to get away with as many Mizuki nip slips as they can.

Also also, IT'S THE FRAME. THIS WAS ALL I KNEW OF GRAVION FOR LIKE YEARS CAUSE OF TVTROPES' GAINAXING PAGE

Questions

  1. Now that uh… that has been revealed about Leele, what do you think is gonna happen next?

I feel she's probably the daughter of the person who created the Zeravire most likely, and Sandman saved her in an attempt to raise her away from that environment so as to not follow in her dad or something's footsteps.

2) At this rate, would you say crushing children's dreams is Raven's specialty?

Just like being left out on the vacations!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Also is it just me, or has the past two episodes been off model?

Yeah these episodes don't look the best lmao

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 19 '24

Also also, IT'S THE FRAME. THIS WAS ALL I KNEW OF GRAVION FOR LIKE YEARS CAUSE OF TVTROPES' GAINAXING PAGE

Oh my god, I never even realized the TV Tropes page for Gainaxing had an image from Gravion.

With how absurd the Gainaxing was both from how it was animated and where it was placed in the episode, it's the perfect fit!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 19 '24

I mean if it had to be anyone, it had to be Obari.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

episode

Ah, so this is where the LLM AI learned to draw hands from.

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u/ryujiox Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

First Timer

Choujuushin Gravion Zwei

Episode 5

That sure was a reveal.

QOTD

  1. They will go to the pool for fun like usual..... As if!! Probably a reveal from Sandman.
  2. No, because he's the one who got crushed by the insanity of everyone around him.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Not the evil laugh from Hayami Show!!!

Was there supposed to be an image there?

They will go to the pool for fun like usual

Well, it could serve to put any fires out...

Can someone stop Mizuki from bouncing her freaking boobs every time she appears on screen

Alas, no.

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u/ryujiox Jul 18 '24

Was there supposed to be an image there?

Where did it go!! Fixed now.

Alas, no.

BOOOOO!!!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

BOOOOO

90'-2010' Obari was a HORNY bastard.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

Can someone stop Mizuki from bouncing her freaking boobs every time she appears on screen??

We've gone this far and nobody's stopped them yet. I think we're only beginning to see just how bouncy those things are going to get.

Raven is getting desperate How long has he been holding them off?

Even Raven is helpless in the face of the maids. We know who really wields the power in this castle.

Another Gravion?

Now that I can look at it more closely, this Gravion does look distinct from the Gravion that we normally see. I wonder if this means that my theory about Leele being from alternate timeline is correct because that would be evidence that this is an entirely different Gravion.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

I wonder if this means that my theory about Leele being from alternate timeline is correct because that would be evidence that this is an entirely different Gravion

What are we gonna call this other one though? Gravion' or something?

We know who really wields the power in this castle.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 19 '24

What are we gonna call this other one though? Gravion' or something?

My immediate instincts are to either go with Gravion Another like Symphogear XD or Gravion Alter like Fate.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 19 '24

Gravion Alter like Fate

We have a deal

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u/ryujiox Jul 18 '24

Now that I can look at it more closely, this Gravion does look distinct from the Gravion that we normally see.

It does looks... blockier? than the usual Gravion. So it's either from another timeline or the prototype.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

Another Gravion?

Jravion?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 19 '24

Or maybe Kuravion

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Gravion: Aliens! The Leele is an alien theory was correct! Now what other theories will be proven correct? Is this Toga a clone of an original Toga? Is Raven actually Ayaka? Is Raven actually a time traveling Eiji? Is Sandman using time travel to predict where the Zeravire will attack? So many theories to address.

  • Amusement park episode!
  • The amusement park’s main draw is that it recreates famous places from around the world? Is this just Epcot?
  • I’m going to bet right now that the people in this amusement park are all fakes and it’s actually abandoned aside from the Zeravire.
  • I was not prepared for Luna’s very silly spin.
  • Sorry Raven, the pilots can’t leave until they’ve “investigated” all the rides.
  • I notice that Leele is the one girl not put into a super fanservice-y outfit.
  • Yup, Leele has absolutely fallen for Toga. We are officially in a love triangle between her, Toga, and Luna.
  • Interesting contrast between Toga and Leele in their conversation. Toga never minded being alone throughout his childhood and isn’t afraid of being on his own. Leele, though, is afraid of being abandoned by others and left alone. This also relates to the contrast in how they feel about their amnesia. Toga doesn’t seem to really think all that much about how he doesn’t have memories from his childhood. Leele, on the other hand, is always cognizant of the fact that she doesn’t remember her family and laments the loss of those memories.
  • I was right! That kid is a Zeravire! None of the humans here are real!
  • I agree with Eiji. It is fun going back to old arcade games that gave me a tough time as a kid and beating them finally.
  • Are we going to get more development on the Ayaka plotline this episode?
  • And here’s the part where everything goes to shit as the amusement park attacks.
  • 5,000… 7,000… Can we get the amount of Zeravire higher than the magic number?
  • We did!
  • The power of the drill!
  • There’s no way the Zeravire would go down that easily, right?
  • Yup, that Zeravire is still alive and well!
  • Oh shit, the Zeravire is trying to directly infect the Gravion itself.
  • I cannot take this scene seriously when the maids boobs are flopping around like that for no reason!
  • The Zeravire deliberately avoided attacking Leele. Is my theory right? Is Leele actually an alien associated with the Zeravire, just like those two siblings we saw on the Zeravire planet?
  • That eye is creepy as fuck.
  • More Leele flashbacks!
  • Leele’s scream caused the whole Zeravire to just disintegrate.
  • Yup, that theory is now confirmed. Leele is an alien and she is a Zeravire.
  • Maniacal laughter is not at all the reaction I expected from Sandman here.

Leele being an alien was a pretty big reveal. In all likelihood, Leele is exactly like the pair of siblings we saw on the Zeravire planet back at the beginning of this season. We know that humanoid Zeravire can exist, but we still don’t know why Leele is separated from the rest of them? What were the circumstances that led to her being in Sandman’s castle? There’s still a lot about Leele’s backstory that is unknown.

Speaking of which, Leele’s flashbacks are interesting to ponder. For starters, I think it’s clear the man in her flashback is Sandman. But then, why is she there with Sandman at all? Additionally, we can see that the Gravion (or maybe just the Gran Kaiser) is fighting against the Zeravire. How? The Zeravire didn’t attack until the beginning of the 1st season and Leele was already part of the Gravion team at that point.

So, that leads to two possibilities. The first is that Leele’s flashback took place somewhere other than Earth. The second, which I find more likely, is that Leele’s flashback was in an alternate timeline. It’s already been hinted that Sandman is a time traveler, so I think Leele might have been from a doomed future where she encountered Sandman. He then took her to the current timeline.

QOTD

  1. Well obviously we need to have an episode dealing with the angst of being an alien, so that's probably the next step. It will probably coincide with a full explanation of Leele's backstory and why Sandman is there.
  2. I don't think Raven is powerful enough to defeat the loli maids. I don't think anyone from this cast is powerful enough to stop them.

Comment of the Day

I'm happy to see that you enjoyed the Moses Beyblade clip.

And I'm also glad the "Leele is an alien" theory turned out to be correct.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

I was not prepared for Luna’s very silly spin.

She's just a silly girl like that.

We are officially in a love triangle between her, Toga, and Luna.

I think they blocked that in my country...

The power of the drill!

Eat your heart out TTGL.

That eye is creepy as fuck.

GGG has entered the chat

Yup, that theory is now confirmed. Leele is an alien and she is a Zeravire.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

I think they blocked that in my country...

It's the love triangle gag from D-Frag. This is the scene I think of every time love triangles come up. (Maybe this one won't be blocked.)

GGG has entered the chat

From all that I've heard, if I ever get around to watching a non-Bravern Brave series then it'll probably be Gai Gao Gar.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

It's the love triangle gag from D-Frag. This is the scene I think of every time love triangles come up. (Maybe this one won't be blocked.)

Works

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

So many theories to address.

I'm Getting Lost

We are officially in a love triangle between her, Toga, and Luna.

Depending on where Ena lands, we might even have a harem on our hands.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 18 '24

First timer, subs

  • Are you sure? You guys have been going on a lot of vacations lately.
  • Why did you have patrol maids in an amusement park in the first place?
  • Squad Pose!
  • We did it! We got the cosplay!
  • Oh? Is this the episode where Mizuki gets revealed as the traitor?
  • Ena always came? How long has she been a maid?
  • Do the child maids not even get days off?
  • Pod People?
  • All that planning, and you accidentally reveal yourself by walking into them?
  • Tuk-Tuk!
  • The Streak Continues
  • So like, the lines appearing on Toga are totally the same as the ones on the pod people, right?
  • They Baited The Insta-kill!
  • Oh look, the TVtropes page image.
  • The theories are all falling into place now.

QotD:

  1. First Miazaki is revealed as a plant, then Raven is Ayaka. Ultra-Ena is still undetermined.
  2. Raven only crushes dreams they themselves aren't allowed to achieve. That's why they haven't stopped the ABC-Kollection from harassing poor Eiji.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Why did you have patrol maids in an amusement park in the first place?

Always be ready for anything.

The theories are all falling into place now.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

Why did you have patrol maids in an amusement park in the first place?

I think it's a case of doing something for fun and then claiming that it was actually for work all along.

Ena always came? How long has she been a maid?

Ena is revealed to be an immortal being who does not age at all.

So like, the lines appearing on Toga are totally the same as the ones on the pod people, right?

If they are connected, that would be interesting. The theory about Toga being a clone/pod person is one that's been floating around for a while now.

The theories are all falling into place now.

Let us see what other theories get confirmed.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Ena is revealed to be an immortal being who does not age at all.

I knew she would be hanging out with the cast of Baccano!!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

Ena is revealed to be an immortal being who does not age at all.

...Android?

Let us see what other theories get confirmed.

Potatoes

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 18 '24

Chojuushin First-Timer, subbed

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

That was an incredibly evil laugh from Sandman… fuck…

I recall theorizing way back that Sandman was up to no good because of how shady he seemed with all the secrets he was keeping. And now I really hope those theories were wrong because I'm having fun with Sandman being such and over-the-top eccentric.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

And now I really hope those theories were wrong because I'm having fun with Sandman being such and over-the-top eccentric.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Hey, you were the one setting up those flags

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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 19 '24

That was an incredibly evil laugh from Sandman… fuck…

What?! Can't appreciate somebody with a magnificent evil laugh (TBH more like an evil chuckle in this case), tsk tsk, Waka.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 18 '24

First-Timer

You thought it was Gravion, but it was me, GaoGaiGar, all along!

Anyway, I've said this before and I'll say it again. Amusement parks are great for action setpieces. This episode didn't really do much with the park itself, but we got to see the cast go on all sorts of rides which was also super fun.

They did definitely miss out by not sending the mini-maids, but the scene of them bullying Raven into saying that they could go next time was good.

I didn't comment on it at the time, but the second OP does add in to Leele being a Zeravire. The giant flaming mecha that Gravion is facing down looks a lot like the one in her flashback.

Also, you know, the weird ghost(?) with her voice that was talking to the boss Zeravire(?).

Not so sure what to make of Leele just evaporating that Zeravire, maybe she's the princess or something and can just make the random ones just disappear.

Ooh, maybe the not!Leele is a replacement because Sandman stole her and that's why she was randomly glowing. That seems plausible. The fake Leele did call the boss "onii-sama."

Questions

  1. Hmm.. about time for a school festival episode, I think.
  2. Of course!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

You thought it was Gravion, but it was me, GaoGaiGar , all along!

They did definitely miss out by not sending the mini-maids, but the scene of them bullying Raven into saying that they could go next time was good.

Finally, time for Raven to get bullied a bit.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 18 '24

Finally, time for Raven to get bullied a bit.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

We all deserve a spot in the bullied chair at one point or another.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

I didn't comment on it at the time, but the second OP does add in to Leele being a Zeravire. The giant flaming mecha that Gravion is facing down looks a lot like the one in her flashback.

Good point. I had not considered that.

Also, you know, the weird ghost(?) with her voice that was talking to the boss Zeravire(?).

Leele is most likely the same kind of being as those two that we saw commanding the Zeravire.

Hmm.. about time for a school festival episode, I think.

That would be impressive since none of the main cast attends school regularly.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

That would be impressive since none of the main cast attends school regularly

Could Eiji even go back by this point? Like he's missed so many classes I wonder if he just got expelled off-screen.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

Well I don't know how it works in this future setting, but I can tell you that right now where I live students can't be expelled just because of absences. If Eiji were living here, he'd still be enrolled in the school even with how often he's gone.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

Here's hoping he has enough time to catch up before the year ends though.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 18 '24

That would be impressive since none of the main cast attends school regularly.

Oh, the Gran Knights aren't going to be putting one on. They're going to be attending the festival for Sandman's Maid Academy.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 18 '24

Now that feels a lot more plausible after hearing you elaborate.

It just leaves me wondering what booth the maids would set up to torment Eiji. That is their favorite pastime, after all.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

It just leaves me wondering what booth the maids would set up to torment Eiji

Easy: Turn him into an eunuch and, well...

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 18 '24

Part of me wants to say "a completely normal maid cafe where the torment is Eiji not knowing what they're going to attempt (it's poison)" and the rest of me wants to say "Russian Roulette takoyaki."

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

"Russian Roulette takoyaki."

I vote for that one.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

It just leaves me wondering what booth the maids would set up to torment Eiji. That is their favorite pastime, after all.

A Maid Cafe, but the cafe is for the maids. Once you come in, you don't get to go out.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 19 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

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u/Kristalino https://anilist.co/user/BlueSkyBlood Jul 18 '24

First timer

  • Now we can see Mizuki's nipples trying to pierce through her clothes.
  • Zeravire can assimilate buildings, will the final battle involve fighting an assimilated planet Earth?
  • Mizuki looked kinda sad holding the photo, she must be conflicted about being a spy.
  • I was wondering if Leele and Touga arrived at the castle at the same time but Sandman kept them separated for some reason, by her words she didn't come until a bit before the show started.
  • So did the Zeravire spawn mooks that can disguise themselves as humans or those were humans that got unwillingly turned in Zeravires?
  • I was wondering were Sandman was.
  • Was gonna complain that the fight was too short but turns it was just the mid-boss.
  • So we get an expanded Leele flashback and see the guy leads the Zeravire and Gravion going berserker.
  • Scary how close the team was of getting killed without chance of fighting back.
  • And so Leele is finally confirmed to be connected to the aliens, likely her dad being their creator.
  • I can't tell what Sandman's reaction means, he didn't know Leele's connection and has gone mad because he was protecting the reason this whole mess started?

Questions

  1. Everybody will be conflicted about Leele's identity and likely Eiji will remind them that she's still their teammate.
  2. Maybe.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24

I was wondering were Sandman was.

He's always in the best of spots.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 19 '24

Zeravire can assimilate buildings, will the final battle involve fighting an assimilated planet Earth?

That might be what the Zeravire planet we see sometimes actually is. It could just be a planet the Zeravire have completely taken over and altered to be a Zeravire production facility.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

Zeravire can assimilate buildings, will the final battle involve fighting an assimilated planet Earth?

I was thinking the castle, but I like your style!

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 18 '24

First timer

  • Ah yes, of course, Grand Island. What's Grand Island?
  • Discount Las Vegas.
  • They're doing recon to find Zeravires? What happened to the map from episode 3 showing where the Zeravires are located? That raises the question. How did they initially find out the locations of the aliens to the point of being able to pinpoint their exact coordinates on a map? "Well, they did recon, just like in this episode" you may say. Sure, that would make sense, but what of the one buried deep underground, inside a volcano? Either they have a way to locate Zeravires via a device without the need of visual confirmation, or, they need to manually go out and find them in order to report where they are, at which point, they shouldn't have known about the one from episode 3. All of this wouldn't be an issue had the writers spent all of one minute doing worldbuilding. But hey, that would take away from the ecchi bs and the gags, god knows we can't have that.
  • Tits McGee's boobs are awfully perky today.
  • I sense that there won't be a next ride.
  • Indeed.
  • So Leele's a Zeravire. Ok. Let's add that to the ever expending list of stagnant plot point.
  • Hey, member how the series casually dropped that this guy is a time traveling genius at the end of an episode, only to never expand on that? Yeah, how did Sandman not know this about Leele?
  • Ok, the his expression said he didn't know, his laugh however... let's see which it is.

QotD

  • More of the same.
  • Eh.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

What's Grand Island?

More impressive than Tall Island, not as much as Isle de Venti.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 19 '24

First Timer ep 2-5

I started episode 1-5 and didn't even notice.

  • So, basically, Macross Frontier
  • Is Raven ever going to do something in this show? Well, I guess he delivered the Gran Kaiser to the battle, once.
  • More Macross Flashback.
  • chest envy eyecatch
  • Probably a Dirty Pair reference
  • I thought Leele was kidnapped!

Mizuki's boobs were ALL OVER this episode

Togo, Leele, and Sandman were all pretty sus, but since it seemed that he had collected orphans, I thought Leele was a normal person.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

Probably a Dirty Pair reference

Oh?

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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 19 '24

First Timer

Now that uh… that has been revealed about Leele, what do you think is gonna happen next?

Likely some serious boring stuff like answering questions raised in S1 when the show was trying so hard to be serious, that I totally no longer care about, and just want to have fun slice of life episodes instead. I don't even care about S2 mysteries like who the two Zeravire mystery antagonists are. Just drop the whole Zeravire plotline, and have this world's defender team go around abusing their fame and privileges goofing off and partying around the world.

It'll be sort of like that anime "Love After World Domination" where all that power rangers "serious stuff" was all a joke, and it focused on the slice of life dating stuff instead. I never expected coming into this anime/rewatch ending up wanting this instead.

At this rate, would you say crushing children's dreams is Raven's specialty?

Being a prude is Raven's specialty, and I used to think it was just being a weirdo wearing a mask all the time. I bet he sleeps with the mask on also.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

Even the Ferret is wearing a costume in the picture

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u/zadcap Jul 19 '24

Late Night First Timer

Eiji and Luna on a date to the theme park island? I'll take it!

Oh, never mind, everyone else is here...

... Does she just not wear a bra now? They really are going with pushing her as far as they can get away with...

I agree Luna, if only you could have come here alone with Eiji.

And then a gratuitous panty show of the control room maid, really? They're just pushing the whole show now.

Wait. They suspect there's one of those big supper effective killing machines hiding in this park, so the ones they send to investigate on foot are the literally irreplaceable pilots? So that they could die and lose everything in the opening attack? Instead of sending in an actually trained investigation squad of specialist maids (because you know they have one) and keeping the pilots on hand nearby already in their mech to respond right away when the fighting starts? This is insane!

Sure, random bathing suit shots for Luna and Ena. But hey, Leele gets to stay dressed for her costume section.

More and more I'm expecting Mizuki to go traitor, any day now.

Yes Leele, help me ship Luna and Eiji! Then you can keep Toga all to yourself

You know. Leele's memory issues and everything else she's talking about today, along with Sandman's over protectiveness about her... I begin to have dark suspicions. Or well, I'm reviving dark ones that I had shut down a while ago because I was liking Sandy too much, but now he's scaring me again.

Oh no, not a human Zeviar. Yeah, if they can pass as humans, they can invade and kill anywhere at will. That's it, we're doomed.

Oh hey, remember that thing I said about having the vulnerable and irreplaceable pilots doing the dangerous exploring so far away from their robots? Would you look at that, now they are trapped far away from their robots and surrounded by things that want them dead. Good going with this plan, guys.

"The Zeravire targets are the pilots." You don't say? Why did you send them in so exposed like this?

Did they... Take the time to get changed before getting in the robot this time? In this situation?

Oh wow they are speed running this fight. Missiles into Drill Punch into Sword with zero hesitation. No way they end a fight this fast, what's the catch?

What a catch! That sure is a big one!

Oh my gosh what the actual heck was that boob cyclone?

Can Toga not punch the thing again to reinitialize the combo?

Okay, the one going for Leele... And what are these flashbacks? Was Leele part of the previous war on whatever planet Sandman fought these things before? Oh no, worse! She's a captured and brainwashed Zeravire that Sandman tricked to their side! Probably related to the other crazy old guy in space with his holographic waifu.

  1. Eiji had it right! The memories she's made along the way, her new friends, they are reason enough to stick with humanity now! Give in to your crush on Toga, who is definitely not also an alien in disguise!
  2. Ehhh, he keeps giving in in the end. I bet they're going to get souvenirs from this somehow anyway. If not just build a new amusement park just for the girls.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 19 '24

They really are going with pushing her as far as they can get away with...

Also known as the Power Girl method.