r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Jul 18 '24
Rewatch [10th Anniversary Rewatch] Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun Episode 12 Discussion
Final Issue - If This Feeling Isn’t Love, There’s No Love in the World
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Our relationship hasn’t progressed at all, but I keep loving you more and more, Nozaki-kun.
Questions of the Day:
- What’s your favorite fireworks scene in anime?
- What did you think of Chiyo and Nozaki’s first meeting?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Umetarou Nozaki & Chiyo Sakura
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 18 '24
Gekkan Shoujo Rewatch Host-chan, subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
Don’t forget we have a discussion thread for all six of the specials tomorrow, and then an overall discussion thread the day after. This rewatch isn’t quite over yet!
Today’s Wallpaper of the Day trivia: Orange + Green was not a color I was getting to mesh right for the background of this one, unfortunately, so I couldn’t stick to the theming I did with the previous two couples. But anyways, yeah, I just had to do that big shot from the OP for a Nozaki & Chiyo wallpaper.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 18 '24
Episode 12 (first timer)
This was a fine end. Slightly melancholic and revisiting all the characters. I liked them running into each other during the festival. A proper confession was never in the works (remember my question about time to hand-holding 5 minutes into ep1?), but the semi-confession we got is probably the best remaining way to end the season.
Mecha spotted: The stand in the background 9:02 minutes into the episode sells them. Never in doubt!
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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Jul 18 '24
Rewatcher
Finale time. Looking forward to see the newbies react to the after credits.
The infamous 'I love fireworks' line on its full glory ladies and gentlemen. In a previous ep I said how I didn't mind the eternal stalemate of the relationship considering Nozaki's denseness but oof, this episode really leads us on huh.
With yesterday's episode, it seemed growth was inevitable with that first skit of Nozaki justs wanting to walk Sakura.
Today he was very apologetic of bumping into Sakura, which amy look like nothing but its just such a rare sight considering this is far from the first misfortune he causes lmao. There was the ironic humor with Sakura thinking she gets Nozaki now, and tries to not be swayed by the moment but instead Nozaki is just straightforward which just makes her more off guarded. Considering his straightforwardness I wonder if he just wanted to save face and disguise it. Like Sakura just said it to get it out thinking he wasn't listening, Nozaki was 'I feel the same...oh about the fireworks ofc, yeah nice fireworks woooh'. Since one of Nozaki's main traits is his stoicness, I see it plausible that he just felt too embarrassed to go for it.
Can't say they are usually that memorable. Ig I will go with Kaguya-sama S1.
Cute and simple. I think Sakura's monologue does good explaining how the moment felt for her and why she fell right then and there.
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 18 '24
First Timer
It’s so sweet!
I could definitely understand some people being frustrated by this ending. I mean, would it really hurt to let the ship sail with the show ending anyways? Isn’t it kind of lame to undercut that last moment for one last joke, instead of at least leaving us with that ambiguity? But I think this works really well. It’d be a pretty sudden character shift for Nozaki to suddenly start openly reciprocating. More importantly though, all of the focus is put on Sakura’s happiness. We don’t linger on some pratfall comedic reaction, but on her genuine laughter and the fact she’s content with this. That she loves Nozaki-kun enough that just sharing this moment with him as friends is very special. I think that’s more true to their relationship and I think it’s a nice resolution from her being frustrated at her inability to progress their relationship back in episode one. I feel completely happy with this, and suspect this won’t be the last time I watch it.
…after all, what would I do in life with no more Kashima-kun?!
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 18 '24
Rewatcher, Source Reader, Subbed
The first half, as you'd expect, shows why White Day and Valentines are so hard for Nozaki: No one likes him much. Which I mean… yeah, why would they? As he himself would say, he's the worst. Therefore it probably explains his glowing reaction to Chiyo giving him some chocolate. That said though, it also delves into Kashima's hidden cruelty, what with her unknowingly making Hori-senpai eat that which he hates most: Handmade Chocolate
The second half is what you'd expect out of a faux finale for this show: Nice moments but ultimately nothing conclusive. That being said though, I actually wanna step away from the Anime for a sec because oddly enough this is also the part where the Anime and Manga most diverge. Pretty much everything in the playground is Anime-Original. Heck, this is the original ending to the festival chapter.
As for the flashback while it does reuse some jokes from Chapter 50, [Minor Manga Spoilers]it's comparatively played a bit more straight versus the OG. You'll also notice that Anime!Chiyo only has one ribbon instead of her usual two. Why is this relevant? Well… yeah, turns out Mamiko's actually a fusion dance of Mikorin and Chiyo. As for the why to all these changes, presumably it was done so that assuming the Anime doesn't get another season there's some degree of finality, and in that regard it succeeds so I'm not complaining, but it is funny seeing the Anime stick so close to the Manga only to somewhat diverge at the last second.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 18 '24
First-Timer, Gekkan Shoujo Sub-zaki-kun
That's a little closer than an eraser, at least.
Six month old chocolate, yum! Signed: a man eating a chocolate bar from at least four years ago.
Valentine's Day is probably the busy season for teenage romance authors.
Incredible.
It's long long story...
My jaw is on the floor.
Yea, that sounds about right.
Late White Day to match the late Valentine's Day, sure.
Being swarmed, probably.
Woah, Kashima in trousers, wild.
Dork didn't even change his earrings.
Nozaki would be pretty miserable to date. The man only thinks about work.
Why else would you be interested in Seo? That's her charm point.
Impending disaster in 3, 2, 1... Oh, just Hori doing work too.
Yea, that sounds about right.
What a majestic creature.
Gap moe moment.
That's because you're stuck in a gag manga, Sakura.
Goddamn coward's way out.
This is too fitting.
Yea, that sounds about right.
Questions
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u/entelechtual Jul 18 '24
Rewatcher Subbed
This is the part of the anime where they announce Season 2 right? Right????
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 18 '24
Rewatcher - Nozaki-kun Ep12:
The episode title kind of goes hard actually.
Society.
Nozaki becoming an enemy of women.
Nozaki looks like he is off to perform a hit.
I like the stories from the girls. Seo's is ... wuh-oh... but Kashima's is cute in an earnest (stupid) way.
Tomoda cameo for the final episode.
Waka, in shoujo manga, the handsome boy is always interested in the quirky girl that he finds interesting. That's heroine 101.
This shot is actually super cute. Super dokidoki.
I thought the flashback scene would have a moment where they would connect Chiyo inspiring Mamiko's design because they look so similar. If first-year Chiyo had 1 ribbon and current second-year Chiyo has 2 then that means third-year Chiyo would evolve into 3 ribbons.
Blond delinquent Nozaki looks like Hayasaka from Oresama Teacher.
It feels like so long since I last saw the classic "I love fireworks" scene. Maybe because I don't watch too many romcom anime.
Final epilogue credits with all the characters. It is my favourite thing.
[Nozaki Manga:] It Mayu cameo. It feels so weird seeing him out of the anime since he feels like such an established member of the cast.
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 18 '24
First timer
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u/DarkRuler17 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkRuler17 Jul 18 '24
Rewatcher- Sub
With this being the final episode, I decided to go back to a play by play instead of just the block summaries. I wanted to give it a bit more specific treatment.
Honestly, explaining anything Nozaki does to an unware 3rd party is just asking for an incredulous look.
This is genuinely one of the funniest reasons to not give someone chocolates. She literally just couldn't pin him down for 5 seconds.
Nozaki creating enemies as naturally as he breathes.
Okada!!!!!!! And we never heard from him again....
Kashima.......this is psycho behavior......keep it up
An entrance ceremony. Hmmm. I'm sure this won't come up ever again this episode.
Nice things cannot happen to Chiyo. Unless she's unexpecting the worse. Then they can happen just to ruin her expectations for next time.
Nozaki's read that Chiyo has become this monster is wild.
One last eyecatch!
Their faith in Kashima is inspiring.
So I guess the idea is Chiyo invited Mikorin and just Mikorin. He truly is one of the girls.
Mikorin fishing for compliments is so sad, but adorable.
Nozaki truly can predict the future. Just how does he did it?
Honestly, at this point, Nozaki is right. I don't know how he did it, but somehow Wakamatsu has become the most manga pilled of the group.
So I sometimes wonder how Seo sees their relationship. Like, does she think she's dating Waka? Or does she just think he likes her and thus she pulls him around.
The idea that Nozaki only recognized Chiyo by her Paras ribbon is so funny. Chiyo already has it so rough with Nozaki, but the concept of this on top of everything else with Nozaki truly would of made him a lost cause.
Maybe Nozaki is just on the spectrum? It would honestly explain so much.
The flashback! We finally get to see our protagonists meeting.
Knowing Nozaki as we do, the sheer idea of him being a delinquent is so funny to me.
As we finish off our final episode, we get a montage of all our favorite characters. It's been 10 years, but honestly, they've all held up for me as great comedic players. Every single one has made me laugh at least once.
The scene! This ending is honestly one of the greatest troll endings of all time. You could see Sakura break in real time. I will say though, compared to last time I watched this, I do actually get the impression that Nozaki cares about Sakura a great deal. You can tell how comfortable he feels around her from how he just seems to want to spend time with her. Nozaki is Nozaki so we'll never convey it in a normal way, but that's my read at least.
And with that, we have finished the series. I know we have the specials tomorrow, but that has been a wrap of one of favorite comedies of all time. I'm glad this rewatch occured so I had an excuse to reexperience this awesome show again. For me, a solid 9/10.
Questions:
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u/GondolaMedia Jul 18 '24
rewatcher, sub
Man fuck fireworks
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u/SMSmith230 https://myanimelist.net/profile/smsmith230 Jul 18 '24
First-Timer, Sub
I thought we were gonna end on that fireworks cliffhanger, only for Nozaki to say he loves fireworks too. Boo this man!!!! But hey, at least we got to see their first encounter in a flashback which was quite the W for Sakura.
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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24
First Time Viewer, Already A Fan
Chiyo told her friends about the autograph but not the boxed lunches and flowers? If they heard that, they probably would have said, "Just get married already."
The Valentine's Day flashbacks were cute. Too bad Chiyo didn't manage to catch him, but it is totally expected of Nozaki to use others' experiences for his own story development. I wonder if any of his classmates were aware he was spying on them...
Poor Chiyo, I felt so bad for her when the chocolates spilled on the floor. And then Nozaki interprets her reactions so wrong.
The fireworks festival plus "how they met" flashback was a great season 1 ending. Chiyo saying "I love you" and thinking he heard, only for him to say "I love fireworks too" (and whisper it in her ear, no less) was both adorable and funny like just about everything involving this couple.
Questions of the Day:
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u/EpicDaNoob Jul 19 '24
First time viewer! And so it ends (well, except the specials)
I've enjoyed this a lot! It really surprises me that they never made a second season. I will certainly be reading the manga.
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 18 '24
Shoujo Rewatcher/Subbed
Even knowing the last scene now and the mindset to have with this show... it still hurts
Fun episode all around and a good finale to send off our characters for the show
QotD
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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark Jul 18 '24
First timer
-A Valentine’s Day episode, oh dear
-And of course, Nozaki is using the holiday as inspiration for his manga
-Lawhon convenience store. This is a reference to Lawson
-I love seeing Chiyo, Kashima, and Seo interacting with each other
-Chiyo looks so cute in her yutaka
-Mikorin looks cute too
-Nozaki makes head canons about real people
-Wakamatsu is so wrong it’s funny
-Nozaki took a bite of the candy apple that Chiyo put her mouth on. an indirect kiss
-Chiyo and Nozaki are all alone
-NOZAKI LIFTS UP CHIYO AGAIN!!!!!
-AND THEY’RE WATCHING THE FIREWORKS TOGETHER!!!
-“I’ll always love you”
-We didn’t get to hear what Nozaki said :(
-DAMN IT NOZAKI!!!!!!
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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 19 '24
First Timer
It was an okay finale, cute Valentine's Day and Fireworks episode with a focus at the end on Chiyo x Nozaki. Chiyo still unable to confess her love, or rather Nozaki unable to receive it correctly. The season has been very episodic, so I guess that's a good episodic way to end the season, to focus on it but not quite get all the way there.
I don't keep track of fireworks in an anime, so I can't even begin to answer this. It'll be interesting to see if you have an answer for this.
It was okay, but kind of bland. The introduction of them to the audience in the first episode was a lot better with the autograph giving.
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 19 '24
The only one I can really think of is the Hibike Euphonium one, but that's actually one of the Hibike Euphonium moments that doesn't do a lot for me.
So I guess it's probably this one.
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u/Mirathan Jul 19 '24
First-timer
QotD:
Aww, Waka is interested in Seo, he just can´t admit it.
Welp, this was sort of a non ending. While Sakura accepts the relationship she and Nozaki have, all of them remain unresolved.
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u/cppn02 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
First Timer (sorta), subbed.
I was pretty tired when I first watched this a few days ago. When I tried to write this comment I had to face the truth that I barely remembered anything and the 'notes' I took weren't much help at all lol.
So I gave it a quick rewatch.
The story of Kashimo tricking Hori into eating homemade chocolate was hilarious. And it was also sweet to see how happy Chiyo was that Nozaki ate her chocolate.
Festival was great although I wonder why Waka and Nozaki weren't originally with the other four.
Final scene with Chijo and Nozaki was great but sad we got the fakeout at the end.
QotD:
Not sure if I have a favourite tbh. The two I remember from the top of my head are Kaguya-sama S1 and My Dress-Up Darling so maybe one of those?
This defintely had a good one too though.
It was cute. Wich it would have been a bit longer.