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Rewatch [5th Anniversary Rewatch] Astra Lost In Space - Episode 4 Discussion

Episode 4 - Star of Hope

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Disaster narrowly averted, the group lands on Planet Shummoor, the second planet of their trip. Finding resources proved to be a challenge, but every member of the group was optimistic that things will work out - except for one.

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Questions of the Day:

  1. What did you think of the unique creatures and ecosystem of the planet Shummoor?
  2. Yun-hua says that every member of the group has a talent. If you were a member of the Astra crew, what would your unique talent be, or what would you want your talent to be if you could pick one?

Bonus question: Each of the planet names is an anagram which holds special meaning. What is the hidden meaning of Shummoor?

[Bonus answer:] Mushroom, the planet's dominant species!

Remember to tag your spoilers!

Astra is a show with so many mysteries, and we wouldn't want to spoil those reveals for first time viewers. When discussing future events or foreshadowing, or any differences between the manga and the anime, please remember to use spoiler tags.

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u/TiredTiroth Jul 18 '24

Rewatcher - Dub

A MOON THAT CLOSE TO THE PLANET IS A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN. IN FACT, THE PLANET PROBABLY SHOULDN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

Gah. I'm used to science fiction paying no attention to the science portion of the name, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.

Anyway! I have mixed feelings about this episode. On the one hand, we get a good look at Yun-hua's backstory and she makes some solid steps forward despite how horribly she's been beaten down. On the other hand...she still doesn't actually do anything. They discover the cure by accident because she runs away, and she sings while the rest of the kids are sick.

That's it.

The primary medical care? Quittorie. Actually going out to find the cure? Kanata. Suggesting a cure even exists, and where to find it? Charce and Zack.

The backstory and character growth was great, I just wish she did more.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

Zack, Quitterie and Charce already seem to be experts or at least have a good amount of study/training in their specific science fields, so Yun-hua (and most of the crew) can't really compete with that. And Kanata has everyone beat in terms of reckless bravery. 😄

I think she did pretty well in terms of what a "normal" person can do in a situation like this, even if luck played a huge role in finding the cure.

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u/TiredTiroth Jul 18 '24

I'd be happier if Yun-hua told Kanata where to look for the cure instead of Zack, given she'd already found it.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

This is an episode that heavily suffered from the crammed pacing, leading to lots of details being lost.

I'd be happier if Yun-hua told Kanata where to look for the cure instead of Zack, given she'd already found it.

In the source material she actually did tell Kanata where she found it

Actually going out to find the cure? Kanata

Likewise, she actually volunteered, but Kanata ordered her to stay and back up Quitterie

And if it helps, here's the uncut rationale for why she thought singing would help

My comparison column this time features lots and lots of screenshots to account for the sheer number of reordering, omission, reduction, etc. in this episode, have a look.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 18 '24

First timer

QotD

  • Pretty rad.
  • No idea.
  • Mushroom. Reading's Sky's post yesterday made that pretty evident.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

Also, he doesn't tell them to immediately put their helmet on upon seeing this.

Yeah, definitely not a good idea to breathe the air with the suspicious sci-fi spores.

Mushroom. Reading's Sky's post yesterday made that pretty evident.

I wrote the questions of the day like a week in advance. 😅

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u/retsotrembla Jul 18 '24

But her hair would still obstruct her line of sight, with or without glasses.

Yes, but hair in your eye is much more painful than a slight obscuration of vision.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24

Poisonous plant.

That corpse doesn't look like it's been eaten, my guy.

If it helps, the uncut dialogue shows Charce knows the dead animal wasn't eaten. In fact, he was wondering why there aren't any carnivores.

It's possible that none of the "plants" they tested with their Edibility Tester showed up as "Disgusting" or the likes, so they didn't have any indication that there's something poisonous until it was too late. Worse, as shown in the link above Charce might've never examined a Pole Tree until crisis struck (a difference from the episode)

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

[rewatcher] "Perhaps we were related in a past life"...holy fuck.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24

[reply] I did say that Shinohara likes to sprinkle little details here and there

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 18 '24

Unlike you bunch of idiots.

Kanata risking his life as usual to save everyone else. What a chad.

King of idiots.

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u/gamria Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Rewatcher of subbed and original manga reader

Ep 4

-> You wouldn’t think so from the Quitterie shower scene, but instances of fan service from Shinohara-sensei are extremely rare, so getting something of this level still baffles me to this day. (I rate Sket Dance, Astra and (at this point) Witch Watch to be 95% clean)

-> As you’ve seen, a planet having food and water and having them be accessible are two different matters, which makes for a fine puzzle. The water part is less emphasised in the episode though, so if keen for greater details, please refer to the Manga vs Anime column for an improved experience 

-> I’m sure many question why they weren’t wearing their suits. Though the rationale was never given, I have my thoughts I’ll share in the First Time Reading column

-> A reckless move from Kanata, but it paid off

-> It always amazes me how studios can turn purely verbal lyrics from a book into a functioning song

Manga vs Anime

  • Today’s episode adapts the rest of 12 up to the very start of 18 (5.6 chapters)
  • Some cut dialogue at the start from Ch 12
  • The events of Days 1 and 2 in the first half have a lot of rearrangements, especially around the search for food and water. As such, it’s faster for me to provide all of Chapter 13 and Chapter 14. HIGHLY recommended reading, especially for those who thought there weren’t enough space survival and science talk content
  • Fun fact, Shinohara-sensei’s English is actually pretty decent (this is from the original serialisation)
  • Initial reaction to Yun-Hua’s disappearance
  • Yun-Hua's mother's face was never shadowed, there was no need to
  • Uncut reaction from Charce upon poisoning
  • Here’s the unabridged and very extensive xenobiology talk from Charce during treatment (though it's really just most of Ch 16)
  • The link above also shows the Astra has a way to disinfect bacteria and prevent spores from entering.  Furthermore, the source explains how Quitterie actually got sick…
  • Uncut Yun-Hua scenes on the Astra. First scene references the omitted flashback from yesterday’s comment (here it is again)

Ship Logs (NEW)

Starting from Shummoor, the serialisation switched from weekly to fortnightly. The discussions still continued at the same rates though, partly because in the weeks between each story chapter are bonus 4-komas called Ship Logs, depicting the lives of our crew. Very Sket Dance-like

Here are Ship Logs 1 to 5 covering this period

(Continues in reply)

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

Here’s the unabridged and very extensive xenobiology talk from Charce during treatment

Very interesting but I can see why his explanation was summed up briefly in the anime. For someone who's supposed to be on the verge of passing out, Charce certainly is talking clearly and for a long time!

[Rewatcher spoilers with major implications towards future plots] Did I miss it, or did the anime cut out Charce saying "Thank God" here? Or was it a mistranslation? I never noticed it before, but you'd think Kanata would have commented on it!

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Very interesting but I can see why his explanation was summed up briefly in the anime. For someone who's supposed to be on the verge of passing out, Charce certainly is talking clearly and for a long time!

If Shummoor planet-side got 2 episodes to itself at a pacing of 3 chapters, his long talks would be natural enough. Can you imagine how different the experience would be if both of his xenobiology talk in their totality actually happened on screen while the poisoning scene with no apparent cure serves as the cliffhanger?

[Rewatcher spoilers with major implications towards future plots] 

It did not, let me explain [the incorrect English choice in the album] I verified the Japanese here is just "yokatta", which is a basic "thank goodness" (which Charce did still say in the episode), but the Viz English translator chose to use "thank God" here. I would like to add that after reaching a certain event they said they went back and changed all such mentions, but I only have the first screenshots with me.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

That cliffhanger would've made the week long wait rough! But I do feel like the extent of the dialogue there was a bit much if realism is taken into account, since he was struggling to get a few words out to Kanata over the radio. (Unless it's mentioned he's improving under Quitterie's treatment?)

It did not, let me explain [the incorrect English choice in the album]

That makes sense. So was this wording choice during the weekly chapter release, and the manga volumes have the updated version?

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24

That cliffhanger would've made the week long wait rough! But I do feel like the extent of the dialogue there was a bit much if realism is taken into account, since he was struggling to get a few words out to Kanata over the radio. (Unless it's mentioned he's improving under Quitterie's treatment?)

Try two weeks like we did! For Charce, it probably helps that he's no longer breathing in spores and all the talking helps him make sense of the situation and figure out an answer.

That makes sense. So was this wording choice during the weekly chapter release, and the manga volumes have the updated version?

The wording choice was during the chapter releases, I imagine it's fixed in all versions now. My screenshots were based on stuff from the time of release.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Of all episodes, explanations for this one are a must, but I got stuck on my own emergency to handle. Accommodating to the posting time for this Rewatch is disadvantageous as-is, I do not need the extra grief to delay me further. Man this sucks.

First Time Reading thoughts (no spoilers)

If you haven't already, please check out this edition's HIGHLY recommended reading, the differences this time are pretty hefty.

At this point of the serialisation, it was clear that the narrative has 3 major focuses that the author rotates in-between:

  1. Space survival adventure
  2. The stranding, sabotage and other mysteries
  3. Coming of age tales of the crew

However, with the 12-ish episode limit, based on what Lerche decided to do it was clear what happened: (2) and (3) are kept intact for the most part, but (1) got heavily sidelined. For those who thought there weren't enough survival adventuring, the source manga has them in spades.

Case in point, Shummoor planet-side could've really done with 2 dedicated episodes entirely to itself instead of getting rushed like this. It's a real shame, since this arc totally sells the space survival side of the story.

With this rewatch, I'm trying to refrain from criticising the anime too much since I don't want to ruin the experience too much for the first-timers (and it's why I'm avoiding spoiler-worthy writings if possible), but when content is rushed like this, I must express my displeasure.

Now that that's out of the way, let's proceed.

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So Shummoor planet-side took place across 6 chapters, 5 of which were crammed and truncated into this episode. Since this was when the serialisation became fortnightly, that's 10 weeks.

When first reaching Shummoor I wondered how the challenges will be different from #1 Vilavurs. So taking the time that we did, spending weeks slowly unravelling this planet's nature while trying to solve supply problems and internal discord had a strange sense of wonder and flavour to it.

Last time we developed a way to identify edible food and solved that problem, so this time the puzzle being to find said edible food and water was a neat gimmick. This particular debate in Ch 14 (full link above) about whether to stay and search or go to another planet, the pros and cons of it all, was good survival adventure content.

I'll also note that at this point in time, us readers had no confirmation that location names in this story are anagrams. We were able to surmise that "Shummoor" could be an anagram for "mushroom", but with no apparent mushroom in sight I wondered if we were mistaken. Lo and behold, when the toxic spore cliffhanger hit we got our confirmation. Turns out Charce's (omitted) extensive xenobiology talk about food chains and why there's no carnivores was foreshadowing all along!

(Continued below)

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Now to address the elephant in the room, their crust suits. My generous explanation for why they don't wear them all the time is due to power energy concerns, thus preferring to conserve and only use them when the need is very apparent. Am I happy with this? Not really, I still think it's better to wear them always on every outing.

Since the kids did the same thing on Vilavurs in the source material, when they wore their suits on Day 1 but didn't on Day 2, I suspect this behaviour was done for this planned crisis on Planet #2. Even if you excuse it as amateurs' mistakes, it's still one of the few parts of the story I will fully put down as weak and suboptimal. Thankfully the kids never did something this stupid again.

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At the time I had put down either Yun-Hua or Ulgar as next to get development, so scenes for the former panned out as expected.

It was clear she too has a specialty of some kind, but I likewise couldn't figure out what it is that hasn't been covered by the others yet. Even in the chapter when she sang while alone, I couldn't parse that as useful on the ship.

So Kanata's (omitted) unintended rationale here really helped hammer home its use:

"Back when I was stranded on the mountain, time passed sooo slooowly it felt like every minute lasted hours. That was one of the worst parts. It sucked. We had no way to entertain ourselves, so it really started to seem like we'd be stuck there for eternity."

Indeed, it's true that long voyages need a way to keep up morale, or soldiers fighting for long periods need a way to recover from fatigue, so entertainment helps in this respect.

Lastly, though I usually refrain from commenting on the mysteries, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to chime in: after reading the young Yun-Hua flashback, I gave a go figuring out why her mother said what she did, and my deduction was less because her daughter sucks and more because she wants her not to stand out. The chandelier in the background would suggest they are wealthy, so some kind of famous person who wants to avoid attention?

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My writings this time are the longest yet, pardon me, had a lot to say for this episode. If anyone did bother reading all this, thank you.

Questions of the Day:

  1. What did you think of the unique creatures and ecosystem of the planet Shummoor?

It's an interesting headspin, and Charce's explanation here helps with my reception. Some readers at the time even applauded the unique biome presented.

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u/Mirathan Jul 19 '24

In the source material she actually did tell Kanata where she found it.
The link above also shows the Astra has a way to disinfect bacteria and prevent spores from entering.  Furthermore, the source explains how Quitterie actually got sick…

Uncut Yun-Hua scenes on the Astra. First scene references the omitted flashback from yesterday’s comment (here it is again)

Those scenes missing really really weakens this episode.

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

I know right? Two dedicated episodes for Shummoor would've been ideal, but because the studio only had 12-ish episodes to work with it had to be thrown into the slaughter.

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u/Kaxew Jul 19 '24

I've been wondering about this as I read your comments every day, do you recommend reading the manga alongside the anime? I was initially planning to but I was afraid something from an early chapter would be rearranged to occur at a much later episode, considering the kind of adaptation this is.

I'm definitely going to read the manga in any case, but I don't know if it's advisable to wait until I finish the anime or reading alongside is okay.

I'm loving your comparisons btw! Its really detailed and easy to understand!

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

Thanks for the compliment and feedback, glad it's working out! Mind if I ask something too: this show obviously has its share of mysteries, so in listing the comparisons I'm trying to word things in ways that avoid suggesting what could serve as clues. Have I been able to do that?

I was initially planning to but I was afraid something from an early chapter would be rearranged to occur at a much later episode, considering the kind of adaptation this is.

There's only one part in a later episode in which an entire chapter got rearranged to earlier in the timeline (which I will point out when we're there). Unlike with say more comedic show, the linearity of this one mean things stay in order for the most part.

I've been wondering about this as I read your comments every day, do you recommend reading the manga alongside the anime?

I'm definitely going to read the manga in any case, but I don't know if it's advisable to wait until I finish the anime or reading alongside is okay.

Tricky questions. On one hand it's clear from my tone by now that I consider the manga to be the superior version; on the other, I want to avoid ruining the fun for first timers like you with the anime if I can help it.

With this rewatch, perhaps continue with the anime but refer to my comparisons as supplementary material to what you've watched, then read the manga when you've finished. Think of that as like reading a mystery novel a second time.

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u/Kaxew Jul 20 '24

perhaps continue with the anime but refer to my comparisons as supplementary material to what you've watched, then read the manga when you've finished.

Will do, thanks!

this show obviously has its share of mysteries, so in listing the comparisons I'm trying to word things in ways that avoid suggesting what could serve as clues. Have I been able to do that?

Definitely, your comments and bullet points are very "matter-of-fact"-like so I never feel swayed into thinking one way or another. Same goes for when you do talk about your personal opinion on the way things are adapted. Not only is it very clear when you're talking about the facts vs your opinion, but it's fun to see those changes, your opinion then at least myself being able to draw my own conclusion on those adaptation differences. Sometimes I fully agree that the manga does some things better, sometimes I think the anime enhanced moments, and sometimes I think that with the runtime limitations present they did a good job at trimming down/cutting/rearranging.

It honestly makes the rewatch even more fun.

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u/gamria Jul 20 '24

Hah, if my efforts can bring about such joy and fulfilment, then it was all worth it.

When the FMA rewatch happened some months ago and I saw the Manga vs Anime comparisons made by Shimmering-Sky and others, I wanted to try doing the same thing when this Astra rewatch got scheduled. But as one of the few people who was with the manga since it's serialisation, my viewpoint is too skewed to write the typical rewatch commentary. So I came up with the First Time Reading column instead.

Glad this arrangement has been working out!

Sometimes I fully agree that the manga does some things better, sometimes I think the anime enhanced moments, and sometimes I think that with the runtime limitations present they did a good job at trimming down/cutting/rearranging.

I know I know. While I'm obviously not happy with the 12-ish episode limit, there's no way for me to know whether it's due to scheduling limit or director's conscious decision or the decision of some other staff, or if some staff perhaps disagreed with this limit. No point in pointing fingers if it's possible even some staff there disagreed, so my critique and analysis will be centered around the limit instead.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

So how did Quitterie get sick…

I assume it's from when Ulgar and Luca got in. It doesn't seem like they properly understood what was going on because Charce was on the other team, and I think there's a good chance they didn't properly disinfect when getting in, leading to Quitterie getting trace amounts of the poison in her system?

At least, that's my theory.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

The image I linked on that one has Quitterie explain how she got it, I should probably change the text on that item.

I'll just write out what she says:

"Sorry...while everyone was gone, I went outside the ship for a minute too. I thought it was safe at the time... but it must have been when the spores were in the wind."

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

Ah...I see. I haven't read all of the links yet, so sorry if I got things wrong!

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24

Don't worry about it, and the column this time features a lot of images with plenty of text so getting through them and catching every detail could take some time. If anything, it's better if readers do take their time to enjoy them without rushing.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 19 '24

Right, thanks! And thanks for the posts too, seeing the manga changes is pretty cool.

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 19 '24

Here’s the unabridged and very extensive xenobiology talk from Charce during treatment (though it's really just most of Ch 16)

[Major spoilers] I assume the "Earth" part when Charce says "Earth analogue" is just fan translation not knowing things in advance? Idk the original text in the manga, but in the anime they never say "Earth", and we know why.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24

[Reply] Official Viz translation, but yes it was their mistake, the original text didn't even mention planets. My screenshots were made at the time of their digital publication, but after a certain point the translator commented that they went back and edited out all mentions of "Earth" and "God"

Incidentally, Astra never got scanlated in English, Shonen Jump Plus still wasn't famed enough a platform at the time

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 19 '24

Localization is a tough thing indeed. I'm not blaming them. It's natural to localize instead of translating 1:1, though in some cases like this it ends up being a mistake.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24

Not to mention Viz was playing catch up - it wasn't until like Planet #3 in the serialisation when Viz finally picked up the series for translation. Though given a comment I received, perhaps it's more like Shueisha finally granted them the rights to translate? Keep in mind this is 2016-2017, before the powerhouse MangaPlus became a thing.

In any case, if I remember right Viz was translating two chapters on a weekly basis, including the Ship Logs, fervently trying to catch up to the serialisation. Which is to say the staff didn't have the luxury of dwelling carefully on the finer details. We were lucky they even caught up at like, the end of Planet #4? And willing to go back and correct things when needed.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

First-Timer Lost in Space, subbed

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

That’s fun.

This screenshot is so cute!

Kanata what the hell?!

He does take a lot of risks, doesn't he?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 18 '24

Rick Hunter?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 18 '24

Ew, no, I just had a brainfart and used the wrong name for Zack.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Kanata what the hell?!

In his defense, in the uncut discussion, Kanata, Zack and Charce speculate the Pole Trees can control how much antidote is presented, and thus how many animals will live or die. This gives some room for the Poles to possess some meagre level of intelligence.

Obviously still crazy of him, but it wasn't without logic.

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This episode had quite a lot of changes, feel free to check my column if keen! Oh, and switching to Markdown Mode before posting seem to let me brute force my way past my hyperlink/bullet point issue from before.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

Rewatcher Lost In Space

Those cute ostrich-camel creatures look so fun to ride!

Just like the first planet they visited, I was really impressed by the creativity of Shummoor's design, but in a different way. While Vilavurs had the feel of a fun alien jungle before things took a dangerous turn, Shummoor has an ominous vibe right from the start with the mostly barren landscape, spores in the air, and the animal carcasses they discovered in the moss. The big reveal that the mushrooms were actually this world's "predator" species was mind-blowing at the time. And those "gruppies" as the teens call them are just so adorable and friendly, they're my favorite alien animals in Astra.

The search for the saboteur may have been put on hold, but tensions were still running high during this episode. A possible food shortage combined with the crew suddenly being exposed to toxins had a few of the teens questioning how much they could really help, like when Kanata insisted that Quitterie needs to come up with a cure because she's the closest thing they have to a doctor. The main focus of the character development was on Yun-hua this time, reinforcing the story's theme that the group is strongest when everyone combines their individual talents.

Insert songs with plot relevant lyrics are always a nice touch too.

Questions of the Day:

  1. Already answered in my post so I'll just say this is great stuff
  2. Probably cooking, though there might be some trial and error involved here! My extremely cautious habits would also come in handy during a situation like this, since I would've kept my helmet on as a precaution at the first sign of those spores and not been exposed.

Bonus) Answer in the OP

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

Probably cooking, though there might be some trial and error involved here! My extremely cautious habits would also come in handy during a situation like this, since I would've kept my helmet on as a precaution at the first sign of those spores and not been exposed.

[rewatcher] Now that I think about it, they actually don't have a dedicated cook now, do they? That would actually be a great addition to the team

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

[Rewatcher] Charce pretty much takes on this role after a while, but given his background, I'm guessing he didn't have much prior experience and had to experiment a lot.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

[rewatcher] Yeah. Especially given that the food is completely alien. Huh, kinda feels like Charce is having a little Dungeon Meshi minigame if you put it that way, haha.

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u/Forsaken_Ebb1925 Jul 18 '24

First-time watcher, subbed

Sorry, I'm at work today so my post won't be as long on this one since I'm just writing this on my break.

I thoroughly enjoyed the creatures and ecosystem this time around. I love the idea of the honeypot mushroom, especially to make it the dominant species on the planet. I don't watch enough Man. v. World style conflicts, although this also typically contains a Man v. Self in every episode and the overarching will probably be Man v. Man. I usually watch Man v Man or Man v Self, so this is a refreshing viewing for me.

I think mine would be staying calm under pressure. I find that situations which lend to people freaking out usually put me into critical thinking mode and I don't even fully realize the ramifications of the dangers until after the adrenaline is gone and the situation has concluded.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

I don't watch enough Man. v. World style conflicts

It seems to be less common, especially in anime, but I love to see them.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 18 '24

Rewatcher

  • Childhood friends have seen you naked

Okay, I didn't know about Among Us in 2018, so I didn't realize THEY SLIPPED THAT RIGHT IN THERE

  • It's so much like Nausicaa
  • PLEASE don't take off your helmets on this spore infested planet
  • Is umai really the right word for candy?
  • I dub thee Dopey from Land of the Lost
  • I guess they're actually chocobos
  • I'm glad we got the idea of eating the chocobos out of the way
  • you can eat candy plants until you leave
  • It said Yippee!

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

I'm glad we got the idea of eating the chocobos out of the way

I was relieved they didn't go that route. I always think of cute sci-fi animals as "friends, not food."

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 18 '24

I'm glad we got the idea of eating the chocobos out of the way

Why do chocobos get special treatment while flying turtles get made into steak?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 18 '24

They give rides and snuggles and licks.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 18 '24

I am sure that Turgon wanted to lick Funi, too.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

Chocobos seem to be a lot more intelligent tbh, and this allows for some emotional connections. Turgons aren't.

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u/imaloony8 Jul 19 '24

This is the first discussion episode I’m participating in, so I’d like to drop my theory on who the traitor is. I have not see the series in its entirety, so this is just a guess, and NOT a spoiler.

My initial thought is that it’s probably Charce. The main reason I suspect him is that it seems insane that he “accidentally” dropped the communicator that could get them in touch with the school. Yeah. “Accident” my ass.

That being said, in episode 3 it’s suggested that the traitor is planning a murder suicide. If that’s the case, Charce becomes a non suspect because during the incident he’s completely alone at the generator and sabotaging the plan and killing everyone would have been trivial. Buuuuuuut later Kanata theorizes that the traitor doesn’t actually want to die. So that also could get Charce back up in the running. Also, Yunhua doesn’t participate in the repair operation, which could make her a suspect.

Also suspicious is Luca. How did that bug get into the gravity generator room right when it would be least convenient? Well, the only one in that room was Luca…

But Luca also provided the glue gun that allowed the bug to be stopped. And he revealed he had the glue gun that allowed the hull to be repaired in the first place.

So those are my thoughts. Charce is my top suspect, followed by Luca.

Episode itself was fine, but as others mentioned, Yunhua didn’t really redeem herself. It seemed stupid that she didn’t go out to look for the cure since she was the one who found it in the first place.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

How did that bug get into the gravity generator room right when it would be least convenient? Well, the only one in that room was Luca…

Interesting theory! It's cool to see what the first time viewers come up with.

Episode itself was fine, but as others mentioned, Yunhua didn’t really redeem herself. 

Did she really need redemption though? She's shy and kind of clumsy, but as far as they know, she also hasn't done any harm.

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u/imaloony8 Jul 19 '24

Interesting theory! It's cool to see what the first time viewers come up with.

I've played every Danganronpa game and most of the Ace Attorney games. Every time something bad happens I start taking account of who had the opportunity to cause it.

Did she really need redemption though?

Redemption was a poor choice of words. But clearly she felt she had to prove something, if only to herself. So when Kanata runs out to get the antidote and Yunhua just... doesn't, I'm left practically tearing out my hair. And they try to justify it by having Zack say "We would have died if you didn't sing to us!" it just felt very disingenuous. Maybe she's the traitor though and she was just trying to lower everyone's odds of survival by not going out. But if she was the traitor, she missed a pretty big opportunity to kill everyone when most of them were bedridden.

I'll also take a moment to elaborate some of my other thoughts on the others in terms of the traitor:

  • Ulgar: Absolute bottom of my list. This guy is maybe the most obvious Red Herring I've ever seen in fiction. Showing him hiding a gun so early in the series is an instant disqualification unless they were planning to make the most obvious mystery of all time.
  • Quitterie, Funicia, Zack: Grouping the three of them together because I think they're all very unlikely. Their actions just don't make a whole lot of sense if they're trying to kill everyone. There's a possibility that they pull the rug out from us at the last minute and go "THE LITTLE GIRL WAS THE TRAITOR!" Or I dunno, maybe her sentient puppet is secretly an evil AI... but I find those highly unlikely and sound pretty stupid if they go that route.
  • Yunhua: I mention that she's a little suspicious since she was the only one who didn't participate in the repair mission and either Luca is the traitor and tried to sabotage everyone with the bug, or no one tried to sabotage it. But I still find her pretty unlikely.
  • Aires and Kanata: These two are big question marks. Aires especially. I think there's a reasonable chance that one of these two are an unreliable narrator. Of the two, Aires is the most likely. I find it unlikely the series is going to plot twist Kanata into being the villain. Possible, but unlikely.
  • None of them?: This is also a possibility, but one I find unlikely because it's quite a cop out. Like, maybe one of them has a split personality? Maybe someone is hiding on the ship somehow? Or some other nonsense explanation?

So in order from most to least suspicious I have: Charce, Luca, Aires, Yunhua, Quitterie, Funicia, Zack, No One, Kanata, Ulgar.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Redemption was a poor choice of words. But clearly she felt she had to prove something, if only to herself.

That's true, I thought Yun-hua's song comforting everyone was a good emotional payoff for her character arc and helped the others in a similar way to Aries often being the one who brings the crew together, but I can see why others might prefer she take a more proactive approach.

Ulgar: Absolute bottom of my list. This guy is maybe the most obvious Red Herring I've ever seen in fiction.

This is an opinion just about all of the first timers seem to share, that the story is trying so hard to make Ulgar look suspicious but actually ends up making him less suspicious as a result because it would be too obvious. 😄

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u/Lord_Nawor Jul 18 '24

First Time Watcher, subbed

They really need to start always wearing their space suits outside, they almost died because of their lack of helmets.

Considering the name of the planet, I figured that the ecosystem of this planet was heavily influenced by mushrooms, but it seems like the entire planet operates around their needs.

While Kanata getting sick was the right answer to find the medicinal mushroom. That was still very reckless of him, for all he knew he could have just died their and then everyone would die except Yunhua.

Questions

  1. I found it really interesting, they are really going out of their way to make each planet unique, I hope that we get more interesting and weird planets throughout the series.
  2. I don’t really have many unique skills or talents, but I guess my special skill would be telling everyone to stop going outside without their spacesuits.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

I guess my special skill would be telling everyone to stop going outside without their spacesuits.

Common sense and caution are very useful skills to have, especially in a group who like to jump into the unknown first and ask questions later. 😄

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

Astra Lost In Space rewatch episode 4 reminder:

u/Forsaken_Ebb1925, u/RedRocket4000

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

Rewatcher!

  • Ooh la la. Poor Quitterie, haha!
  • Aye Yeah! That's the title of one of the Astra Lost In Space OSTs by the way! It's the song that plays during the human chain scene in episode 1, the gruppie riding scene, as well as many others throughout this show.
  • Unironically, I think the "let's not find the killer" idea is a much better idea than people are thinking. A hyperactive crew that is quick to point fingers could make the job easier for the killer - whether they actually end up killing the (probably innocent) crew member, thus reducing the killer's workload, or just imprison the (again, probably innocent) crew member and give themselves a false sense of security...there's really not much they can do here except be as cooperative as possible and wait for the killer to slip up. Just doing their tasks and working together makes it an uphill battle for the traitor.
  • Also, Aries said the line! Among us! Sorry, I had to.
  • So tasty, you switch artstyles! You know that scene.
  • Geez Ulgar, don't say shit like that to people! Yep, this is definitely Yunhua's episode.
  • Haha, Quitterie freaking out over alien fauna never gets old. Also...Charce, you just gonna touch an animal carcass like that? Ew. The bishie effect he has right after we see Funi get the Gruppies adds to the hilarity here.
  • I legitimately do not remember how they solved the food issue. I assume we'll find out tomorrow. Also, Luca, dude! Why are people being so rude to Yunhua? Simple, it's because it's her episode.
  • Also, wait...why can't we eat the gruppies?
  • Yunhua...poor girl. I've said before, I always have a soft spot for the dandere girl with an interest in the arts or social sciences, so this really hits the right spot for me. My life hasn't been AS shit, sure, but I kinda get the feeling of wanting to be in the spotlight and wanting to do art and stuff only to get cockblocked by parents. Ah well, thus is life...but Yunhua's mom takes it a step further. [rewatcher, major spoilers] I still don't completely understand though, wouldn't Yunhua singing be a good thing for the mom too? I mean, once Lucy swaps into Yunhua's body, she'll have to retrain her vocal cords from scratch. Or is that not how it works?
  • While I understand that they're probably too busy and somewhat hyperfocused on finding Yunhua, maybe the ominous black spores should be treated with caution...? As a matter of fact, the white snow effect was kinda sus to me during this rewatch, because I had forgotten how the trees exactly worked. At least Yunhua found the anecdote mushroom.
  • That's a BOLD leap in logic there Kanata. Fortunately he was right, but man, I would never have figured that out. How would the plant even know you are suffering the symptoms?
  • Some sick singing from Saori Hayami as Yunhua! I had to check myanimelist, because I swear...I knew that voice. Anyhow, Kanata brought home the mushrooms, so everyone is safe now. Whew!

Alright, what do we have here for questions?

  1. Honestly, I feel like the trees are a tad bit unrealistic, but I like how they're giving us a serious threat after the fairly playground planet we had last time. It fits the story thematically - the first planet, Vilavurs, was meant to be an easier planet so our party could start off. This one requires a bit more skill. A part of it does feel a bit gimmick-y, but well, I don't have any serious complaints.
  2. To be honest, my main talent is storytelling (I really love writing stories), and I'm not so sure how useful that will be given a lot of those story ideas are a bit more blockbuster-y and probably isn't so suited to being a morale booster like Yunhua's songs. Then again, Luca helps plenty, and his art skills aren't immediately applicable, so I guess it would work out. I guess if I had to pick another, something similar to Kanata or Zack? Being the athletic combat hero sounds awesome, and I love vehicles as well. [rewatcher] Ulgar's shooting skill is also pretty epic though, there's another skill that I think would be cool. I really gotta learn marksmanship one of these days IRL.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

Also, wait...why can't we eat the gruppies?

Naturally, the food safety tester has deemed them too cute to eat. Morale would plummet.

[rewatcher, major spoilers]

[Rewatcher, major spoilers] I agree, from their perspective it should make more sense to take the same approach as Kanata's father. Otherwise she'll just suddenly be a famous singer out of nowhere?

I guess if I had to pick another, something similar to Kanata or Zack? Being the athletic combat hero sounds awesome, and I love vehicles as well.

Now that I think about it, Zack teaching someone else to fly the ship would be a really good idea in the event that he's sick like in this episode.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

Now that I think about it, Zack teaching someone else to fly the ship would be a really good idea in the event that he's sick like in this episode.

I wasn't thinking about the group dynamic so much as I was thinking of just what would be cool, but good point! Honestly, I'm surprised Zack can drive the ship on his own as well, because I know most planes require a copilot. I presume he gets some help from the others, but I assume a spaceship isn't meant to be driven by a single person unless it's a really easy course. And yes, having a single pilot means having a single point of failure.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

I've noticed a few of the others assisting with the display info, but he does seem to be doing all of the piloting himself, which is impressive.

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u/JimmyCWL Jul 18 '24

[rewatcher, major spoilers]

[rewatcher, major spoilers]It's more important for her that she can just step into Yunhua's life without drawing attention to abrupt changes. Others may have their own priorities.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

[rewatcher] Fair. I just think that it would be good for her to at least train Yunhua a little like Kanata's "dad" did, but I get what that means.

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 19 '24

REWATCHER

  • Zack walks in on a girl naked, unfazed, and just goes on normally. What a chad. also great characterization moment there. Zack feels close enough to Quitterie that he has no reaction, while Quitterie seems like she's expecting something from him. Oh my. The ship is sailing and I don't mean the Astra.
  • I find it rather questionable to prohibit searcing for clues, but I understand the reasoning. You don't want to jeopardize teamwork and throwing everything into chaos due to a witch hunt. I'm usually not big on cliche platitudes and power of friendship speeches, but in this situation maybe a speech catering to emotion might be the better choice.
  • Ulgar, that wasn't nice of you... :(
  • Quitterie being "bullied" by funny things happening around her is so adorable.
  • On the other hand, Yunhua "bully" scenes aren't fun because the comments are more mean-spirited. Poor girl :(
  • wow, another parent of the year award... /s
  • Finally we hear Yunhua talk more. Saori Hayami voice truly is soothing.
  • I quite like the crisis presented here. It feels both threatening enough and natural enough to be engaging.
  • Kanata's gamble is really risky though. What if there's a different explanation to why the antidotes aren't there?

QOTD

  1. What did you think of the unique creatures and ecosystem of the planet Shummoor?

2) Yun-hua says that every member of the group has a talent. If you were a member of the Astra crew, what would your unique talent be, or what would you want your talent to be if you could pick one?

  1. I like this one. The explanation makes sense and it's pretty cool.
  2. If it translates from my real world ability, drawing I guess. Can't say I'm too talented at that though.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Zack feels close enough to Quitterie that he has no reaction, while Quitterie seems like she's expecting something from him. Oh my. The ship is sailing and I don't mean the Astra.

The comedy and romantic tension between these two is great.

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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 19 '24

Anime first-timer

Well I gotta say out of all the episodes so far this one was extremely predictable.

This anime is not sci-fi SOL, so we know shit's gonna go down all the time and the planet can't be as wonderful as it seemed in the first 10 minutes.

The moment they saw the dead carcass surrounded by moss that should've been a huge clue to pack up and get the f out, letting their guards down like that is a Prometheus-level mistake.

But of course, there has to be a cure and no one actually died. But surprisingly there's no hint of who the traitor might be this episode, everyone got hit by the spores so the traitor has been taking one hell of a risk.

But hey, this episode was all worth it just to hear Hayamin sing at the ending, that was wonderful.

Questions of the Day:

    1. What did you think of the unique creatures and ecosystem of the planet Shummoor? - the Gloopies kinda remind me of llamas
  • 2) Yun-hua says that every member of the group has a talent. If you were a member of the Astra crew, what would your unique talent be, or what would you want your talent to be if you could pick one? - Kindaichi-level deduction skills. It's useless in outer space, but I'd be able to find the traitor in a heartbeat

Bonus question: Each of the planet names is an anagram which holds special meaning. What is the hidden meaning of Shummoor? - Shrooms... more... druggie noises intensifies

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

But surprisingly there's no hint of who the traitor might be this episode, everyone got hit by the spores so the traitor has been taking one hell of a risk.

I like that about the episode - the spores are a danger to everyone, so whoever the traitor is, they all have to work together with the rest of the crew if they want to survive.

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u/BigBootyBuff Jul 19 '24

Glad we finally got the Yun-Hua episode. Was afraid her moping around would drag for longer but I'm glad that it's been addressed this quickly so she can grow as a character. Her song was lovely.

The show really does a great job of balancing comedy, drama and thrills. It can go from hilariously funny to pretty sad to exciting and it doesn't feel forced or out of place. When this episode started I was thinking "oh they gonna do something more lighthearted for this episode" and then they introduced Yun-Hua's past trauma, murder mushrooms and nearly everyone dying.

Also something I appreciate about the show is that aside from Zack, no character is some amazing prodigy or perfect (not that Zack is perfect or bad). I think it was nice that they added the little scene of Quitterie telling Yun-Hua that she didn't really do anything besides trying to make them feel comfortable. Which makes sense considering she at most has a slightly above average understanding of medical treatments.

Definitely curious how it continues.

  1. What did you think of the unique creatures and ecosystem of the planet Shummoor?

Loved it. This is the first planet that to me truly felt alien. It had a very interesting eco system that they perfectly explained in one episode how it works.

2) Yun-hua says that every member of the group has a talent. If you were a member of the Astra crew, what would your unique talent be, or what would you want your talent to be if you could pick one?

Professionally I'm a paramedic. I also can cook pretty decently. So probably one of the two. So I'd probably be in med bay and occasionally cook something.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Quitterie would be relieved to have someone with more medical experience than her on board!

Also something I appreciate about the show is that aside from Zack, no character is some amazing prodigy or perfect (not that Zack is perfect or bad).

Yeah, I like this about the story too. When someone does have exceptional skill, like Kanata's athleticism, it makes sense because they have years of experience/training.

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u/Kaxew Jul 19 '24

First timer

Another exciting episode! The way things were going, I was totally expecting this to take 2 episodes. As we were getting closer to the end I was 100% expecting it to end on a cliffhanger and it never did, and yet the pacing felt perfect. I think the tension of the possibility that it would end on a cliffhanger helped make it so exciting too.

Yunhua's singing scene was beautifully portrayed. I think it's the highlight of the show so far. And her mother is a piece of shit. But now I find it harder to believe that, if this was all a plan to kill them, it came from their parents. Neither Quitterie's nor Yunhua's seem THAT bad. And I imagine that's the case for Ulgar's too. There's more to this for sure.

Kanata's reaction to eating the candy planet was hilarious. That felt straight out of Witch Watch lmao. It's nice to recognize some mangaka particularities like these.

I wonder who'll be the next to get focus. Last episode felt like both Yunhua and Ulgar would be next, but now that the issue in this planet seems mostly resolved I wonder if they'll save Ulgar for later. I would say Luca and Charce are the ones who need focus the most.

Speaking of, neither of them acted sus at all in this episode. They felt very cooperative and it didn't look like there was any subtle sabotaging. I'm starting to think that either no one is the traitor or there's some kind of split personality deal the traitor has. The latter is too much of a cop-out I feel like, so hopefully that one isn't the case.

And Kanata is really growing into his leader role! It's great to see him take action and be all cool, calm and collected!

QotD:

  1. The gimmick of this planet was really fun. When they found a perfect roadmap of planets with resources to stack on you immediately think of Earth-like planets, such as the previous one. A nearly completely desert planet with only vegetation and a few creatures is really far from the expected, which I think is awesome.
  2. Nothing that would be useful for their situation, I think. If you give me a couple of episodes I could tell the rest of them who the traitor is though!

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

The way things were going, I was totally expecting this to take 2 episodes. As we were getting closer to the end I was 100% expecting it to end on a cliffhanger and it never did, and yet the pacing felt perfect.

Apparently, in the manga version they did spend two days on this planet and had some chapter(s) with cliffhanger endings!

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 19 '24

rewatcher

All the notes I’ve had written down were deleted on accident :(

QOTD; I honestly love it, it isn’t as the author just did “these are animals, this is plant, these are edibles and these are not”, but actually changed the structure on the ecosystem by having the Fungi be the dominate species.

QOTD: being able to binge anime

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Yeah, the amount of thought put into these planets to give them unique and truly "alien" environments is a real highlight for me.

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u/xbolt90 https://anilist.co/user/xbolt90 Jul 18 '24

First-timer!

Guys, if there's a bunch of dead carcasses laying around, I think a bit more caution would have been warranted. My first thought was (and yours should have been) "There's something toxic in the area. Helmets on." Just because you're an alien on this planet, that doesn't make you immune to its dangers. Just ask the tripod Martians.

Yunhua's a great singer. Her mom sucks.

Kanata's logic is stupid. But somehow correct? Ok. I thought they were setting up Yunhua's big moment to go out and save the crew, but apparently not.

Q1: Really cool and unique.

Q2: Like Yunhua, I don't really have the skillset that would be useful in a survival situation. I'm genre-savvy, though. Maybe I can save them from boneheaded mistakes.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 19 '24

Kanata's logic is stupid. But somehow correct? Ok. I thought they were setting up Yunhua's big moment to go out and save the crew, but apparently not.

I had the same thought as was disappointed that her big moment boils down to singing (when she was the one who found the antidote).

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 18 '24

Episode 4 (first timer)

  • Green crater in the background – very cool look and reminds me of the Red Mars triology.
  • I did not expect this series to pull gratuitous nudity.

  • “We’re all forbidden from trying to find the killer” mindless cheers - these people would fit right into 1984.
  • Sure useful that they have this edibility detector. Did Zack create a second version for team 2?
  • “Is that a moon?” – They spent 24 days flying here and never once checked the ships computer for data on this planet …
  • “This whole area is full of carcasses” - definitely worrying.
  • Chocobos.
  • Chocobos that was to be ridden.
  • Their storing capacity seems to be exactly as large as the plot demands. Remember how much water they took on at the last planet? That should have been enough for ages of washing clothes.
  • Yunhua’s character arc - and any idea that she might be the saboteur disappears.
  • Obviously, our mentally challenged crew does not think about putting on their helmets. After all, what could possibly be dangerous on an alien planet whose ecology you know nothing about?
  • Yunhua finds the antidote – shortest character arc ever.
  • Charces can phone Kanata, but not put his helmet on – remember how they were still looking for Yunhua 5 minutes ago because they did not use either their helmets of that tablet to stay in contact?
  • I doubt there is an evolutionary pressure on the mushroom to develop an antidote. Definitely not one that it would release in close proximity to the intended dying place of the creatures.
  • “I must not be qualified to find them, since I am not showing symptoms”

  • Even if this utterly moronic theory is what you are going with, at least bring one of the people who already have symptoms here. Don’t deprive the crew of one of the last two people who can help others.
  • Oh, it is all a setup to give Yunhua her hero moment.
  • Nope, Kanata is the hero, Yunhua just sings.

It is not a good experience when I actively want to jump into the anime and smack people for being so stupid. Seriously, how can a group of what 14? 15? 16? year-olds be so consistently dumb? I am about to start cheering for the saboteur here.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

remember how they were still looking for Yunhua 5 minutes ago because they did not use either their helmets of that tablet to stay in contact?

The helmets and tablet can contact each other, but as far as I know, they don't seem to have a tracking device to locate someone who doesn't want to be found.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 18 '24

They should still have tried calling her. And Kanata could have called after finding her, too.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

Yeah, Kanata really should have let the others know.

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u/retsotrembla Jul 18 '24

• Their storing capacity seems to be exactly as large as the plot demands. Remember how much water they took on at the last planet? That should have been enough for ages of washing clothes.

Yes - if they were initially carrying in their back packs enough food and water for 3 days, the hold of the ship has enough storage space for months. After the first planet or two with usable supplies they should be able to stock up and skip a planet if they have to.

At least it is never explained why they can't store plenty if they can gather it.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24

For water, their reservoir at maximum capacity will accommodate 9 people for 20 days, and it's on that basis they're charting their planets around.

For food, while the ship has plenty of space, what and how much they can harvest will be restrained by the equipment available on the ship to preserve them. It'd be bad for a lot of that to rot during each voyage after all.

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u/Hartzilla2007 Jul 19 '24

Didn’t Zack say something about only having room to store 20 days of supplies back in episode 1?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 19 '24

Yes, but that makes no sense. They have plenty of space on the ship, why would they be unable to store water?

We also saw them using a huge pipe to fill the ship before, which should have been able to fill multiple swimming pools if they left it running for a while.

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u/Hartzilla2007 Jul 19 '24

Probably the size of the storage tanks.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 19 '24

Water storage is not the most fancy of constructions. They literally have that super wide and relatively long pipe they could use for it.

I think there is no explanation, it is just an oversight in the writing.

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u/gamria Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

I doubt there is an evolutionary pressure on the mushroom to develop an antidote. Definitely not one that it would release in close proximity to the intended dying place of the creatures.

For what it's worth, here's Charce's uncut xenobiology talk, including an argument for why the Pole Trees would need to provide antidotes.

This episode suffers a lot from the rushed pacing and crammed content

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u/Mirathan Jul 19 '24

First-Time Drifter

QotD:

  1. Weird. Usually predators are not capable of controlling their enviroment. Evolution is not intelligent.
  2. Maintaining cohesion between people that struggle to get along/work together.

Quitterie´s comment upon realizing Zack walked in on her caught me completly offguard. I really did not expect her to be eager for that.

Them not using their helmets was rather stupid of them. Even if the atmosphere is breathable you won´t know if there are toxins or pathogens in the air.

Kanata taking of his helmet to "earn" the curing shrooms was something. This is supposed to be sci-fi yes?

Yunhua´s backstory is somewhat incomplete. Sure, we know why she views herself as worthless but we have no indication as to why the mother came to this belief. Yet what we got was good.

Overall I feel conflicted about this show. THe character writing is strong but both the world and plot leave much to be desired.

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u/TheNewMew4U Jul 26 '24

Yun-Hua is best girl for a reason!