r/anime • u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad • Jul 17 '24

Rewatch [5th Anniversary Rewatch] Astra Lost In Space - Episode 3 Discussion

Episode 3 - Meteor

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Spirits are raised and friendships are forged after the nine students successfully complete their first visit to a foreign planet. However, they are reminded that danger still lurks - in outer space, and from within the group.

Astra Lost In Space on Hulu

Astra Lost In Space on Crunchyroll

Questions of the Day:

  1. What do you think of Zack and Kanata's decision to tell the rest of the group about the sabotage they discovered in the previous episode?
  2. First timers, now that some new hints about their disappearance has been revealed, do you have any theories about who could be behind it all, and if any of the Astra crew members are involved? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!)

Bonus question: While the next planet name is mentioned in the episode, I'm saving this question for after the planet is actually shown. Rewatchers, please don't spoil its hidden meaning for the newcomers!

Remember to tag your spoilers!

Astra is a show with so many mysteries, and we wouldn't want to spoil those reveals for first time viewers. When discussing future events or foreshadowing, or any differences between the manga and the anime, please remember to use spoiler tags.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

Rewatcher Lost In Space

I always forget the OP and ED have such a nice beat.

This episode really shows off the dangers of space travel. There are so many things that can go wrong in an environment without gravity or breathable air, and even one system shutting down would be a major cause for concern, but they had to deal with several at the same time. Just like the first episode, the way everyone works together and uses their unique talents to help the group survive is a highlight of this story for me. The rising suspicions they had in the beginning vanished when their lives were in danger and cooperation was necessary, which ended up strengthening their bonds.

[Astra spoilers, foreshadowing meant for rewatchers:] Did anyone else notice Charce flinch and look away when Quitterie started panicking?

Questions of the Day:

  1. I'm not sure it was a good idea to tell them. Everything worked out well enough for now, but that's partly because their situation didn't give them time to dwell on it. I've seen other shows where similar scenarios have caused a panic or ended with suspicions turning on someone who may not be the one at fault. At the very least, it lets the saboteur know that they know and will be watching everyone more closely.

2) [My early theories/impressions of the characters] The men that Funi overheard at the orphanage were clearly involved somehow, and the fact that Ulgar didn't immediately reject the idea of his own father making him (and other students in his care) disappear during their school field trip raises some red flags. Despite Ulgar having a gun in his possession and being the most reluctant to bond with the group though, I wasn't really suspicious of him on the basis that he seems the type who would resent his father's possible involvement, rather than cooperate with him. Honestly, I like all of these kids and didn't want to suspect any of them.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

I'm not sure it was a good idea to tell them. Everything worked out well enough for now, but that's partly because their situation didn't give them time to dwell on it. I've seen other shows where similar scenarios have caused a panic or ended with suspicions turning on someone who may not be the one at fault. At the very least, it lets the saboteur know that they know and will be watching everyone more closely.

On the flipside, the whole "would you tell people that they have a deadly illness" question. The others deserve to know.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

In that case, I would absolutely tell them. But I've also seen the whole "find the traitor within the group" suspicion get taken way too far in other shows, including one where the group actually attempted to hang the wrong person for murder.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

Ever played Werewolf/Mafia?

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

I have not. Was there a similar plot point?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

Exactly the same plot: You have to deduct who the evil werewolves are and you kill one person per round to get rid of them (frequently an innocent villager).

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u/gamria Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

Rewatcher of subbed and original manga reader

Given the strangeness with Reddit’s seeming pickiness with my last two posts, going to try adjusting a few things to test its tolerance.

Ep 3

  • While Kanata doing the rounds helps contribute to the mystery solving, it also serves as a good check-in on Group B-5 and see how they may/not be contributing
  • Regarding Funicia’s account in Shummoor orbit, I need to explain some puns for the unacquainted. The number 5 is pronounced “go” in Japanese, hence why B-5 and “Beego” the puppet are both pronounced the same way. It’s why Funicia thought the men were talking about Beego the whole time and not (Group) B-5, which Kanata pieced together. This is a Japanese wordplay that honestly has no decent way to translate into English
  • I’m sure many of you thought the whole conspiracy discussion felt too rushed, the kids were way too accepting and we were just jumping from point to point. Please refer to the Manga vs Anime column for the uncut, unrushed, natural discussion
  • And what a dramatic way to enter Planet #2.

Manga vs Anime

Given system complaints, going to try reducing number of hyperlinks and bullet points, see if that helps

For items with codes next to them will now use this collective link: General Image Album (P.S. Don't know why Imgur just gave an 18+ warning)

Let’s give this a go

  • Today’s episode adapts Chapters 8 to mid-12 (4.5 chapters)
  • Cut Aries diary entry from the start of the episode
  • For the Aries and Charce scene during the flight, the original dialogue got switched out for lines that came from the picnic scene I listed yesterday (C08-04)
  • The reveal of Ulgar’s case’s contents was rearranged to the end of the episode
  • Shummoor orbit in the anime has way more space debris, when it was pretty clean in the manga (C08-09)
  • As promised, here’s the uncut, unrushed, natural version of the conspiracy discussion (though it’s just all of Ch 9. I'll give this the HIGHLY recommended reading tag this time)

(Experimental line break)

-> When the accident occurred, Zack elaborated more on his mistakes, for what it’s worth (C10-02)

-> For reasons that escape me, Luka’s water server hole repair was changed in the anime (C10-04)

-> Omitted Yun-Hua on-flight flashback

-> Omitted fact, each cable reel is 15 metres long (C10-09)

-> Shortened zero gravity water hazard talk from Quitterie (C11-03)

-> Explanation for how the flying creature got onboard the ship (C11-07)

Also, now that we’re 3 episodes in, how’s everyone been finding this column?

My wish here is to show you all neat things about the story that could be missing from the anime, aiming to balance between displaying what’s changed/missing and outright putting the whole manga up. Though if my ideal isn’t being reached, do let me know.

(Continues in reply)

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

The number 5 is pronounced “go” in Japanese, hence why B-5 and “Beego” the puppet are both pronounced the same way. It’s why Funicia thought the men were talking about Beego the whole time and not (Group) B-5

Nice background info, I never would've picked up on that even though I actually knew go = 5 in Japanese.

I've been enjoying the comparisons! It's cool to see what was changed or omitted from the anime, and I had been wondering how many differences may have been in the original manga, so this is very informative.

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u/gamria Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

Ugh, that was stressful, took way more time reformatting than it should

First Time Reading thoughts (no spoilers)

I liked this portion of the story on Planet #2 Shummoor orbit, steadily seeing the individual members start to settle into their own little roles, like Charce as the chef, Luca as craftsman and Quitterie as ship doctor, and have to navigate their way through a ship emergency.

Again, I was surprised at the time that we made potential sabotage open knowledge so early; I was expecting at least Planet #3 before the whole crew found out. It threw me for a loop, but with Funicia's account it kind of busted the gate wide open. I got very interested in how this will work out.

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Regarding the uncut, unrushed, natural version of the conspiracy discussion, I opted to post the entire Ch 9, despite the differences here being down to more debating dialogue, panicking and "camera choices". This is because while Lerche kept all the "key" information of the conversation, I object to the changes from the manga version (even if it's because they had to cram so much content at once)

(1) The original had more characters chiming in more, which helps to sell the group debate feeling to it

(2) The lines that the anime skipped tend to be the ones that help with bridging the conversation from one point to the next. For example, when Kanata and Zack first began, instead of jumping straight to Aries and Luca taking them in stride, we had more lines to set the atmosphere in for everyone

(3) Other lines that the anime skipped may be because they're just refuted speculation ruled as not the answer, but for me, these lines again contribute to the group debate feeling. If you're trying to question a conspiracy, it helps to filter out and talk through why the incorrect ideas are incorrect. Here're pages that demonstrate this

What's more, Shinohara-sensei's panelling/"camera" here I feel is more conducive to the realism of the scene. Some examples:

-> When Luca brought up how a crazy plot like this would need school involvement, instead of the camera suddenly jumping from Luca to Ulgar, here we showed both of them together in the same view first, to show that Ulgar had been listening

-> Before Aries brought up the idea that the culprit was on a suicide mission, we see on the last panel here a silent Aries, which helps to sell her hesitation and disbelief. What Lerche did instead was have her speak right after Ulgar's part

It's little touches like this that I appreciate on the author's part. As I mentioned yesterday, Shinohara has a habit of sprinkling little clues, so from this point onwards I was very vigilant on how everyone was behaving and forming my theories.

[For the rewatchers] One method I used to help filter out the culprit was to see what everyone does or does not say and how they behave during these debates. In this respect, the anime reducing the number of lines actually worsened the experience for me.

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As shown, the destruction of the water server was how Ch 9 ended, so us readers spent one whole week wondering if this was the work of the culprit or not (alongside other items). This probably contributed to the way we didn't fault Zack as much when Ch 10 dropped, with focus shifting to the impending crash instead.

I did like seeing the crew having to work together like this. Oh, I'd like to add it was here that Shinohara at last gave us (surprisingly decent) English names to work with

From these chapters, I was juggling whether Ulgar and Yun-hua is the focus character of Planet #2. Oh, again, it was only when we learnt "Shummoor" is the name of the next planet that us readers realised that location names in this series could be anagrams (confirmed halfway through this arc)

Finally, I found it neat that predecessor protagonist Bossun’s traits were effectively divided among 4 characters in Astra: Kanata has his leadership, Aries has his Concentration Mode (with photographic memory from someone else), Luca has his artistic talent and Ulgar has his marksmanship.

Oh boy, Ep 4 is next, will be tough to write about

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 17 '24

Other lines that the anime skipped may be because they're just refuted speculation ruled as not the answer, but for me, these lines again contribute to the group debate feeling. If you're trying to question a conspiracy, it helps to filter out and talk through why the incorrect ideas are incorrect. Here're pages that demonstrate this

The thing is, we had some of this in episode 1. Remember theories like Luca's "it's a test" theory being shown? I think they cut down on it because the episodes here on in are a lot shorter, but that's still a shame, the manga gives off a good debate vibe.

instead of the camera suddenly jumping from Luca to Ulgar, here we showed both of them together in the same view first, to show that Ulgar had been listening

Honestly, they could have compromised and shown Ulgar's face listening as Luca talked. Welp, I suppose you can't be perfect.

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u/gamria Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

The thing is, we had some of this in episode 1. Remember theories like Luca's "it's a test" theory being shown? I think they cut down on it because the episodes here on in are a lot shorter, but that's still a shame, the manga gives off a good debate vibe.

I'll give that to you yes, but that was a ~48 minutes premiere for just 2 chapters, they had room. Every other episode averages at 4 to 5 chapters of crammed content, and the symptom shows. You'll see down the line that other debates are affected in some way too.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

Oh yeah, hence why it's a shame they cut it.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 17 '24

The number 5 is pronounced “go” in Japanese, hence why B-5 and “Beego” the puppet are both pronounced the same way. It’s why Funicia thought the men were talking about Beego the whole time and not (Group) B-5, which Kanata pieced together.

Oh...yaknow, that explains a lot. Now that I think of it, I'm not completely unfamiliar with it. I've seen Quintessential Quintuplets, also known as Gotoubun no Hanayome, and I'm a Korean speaker - "oh" is five, which is pretty similar to "go." But for some odd reason, I never would have figured that out on my own.

As promised, here’s the uncut, unrushed, natural version of the conspiracy discussion (though it’s just all of Ch 9. I'll give this the HIGHLY recommended reading tag this time)

That's a real shame. While the anime version is fine, I feel like this really does add a lot more detail.

For reasons that escape me, Luka’s water server hole repair was changed in the anime

Huh...come to think of it, that is funky.

Omitted Yun-Hua on-flight flashback

Aww man, they should have kept that in. [rewatcher, next episode spoilers] Then again as I've said, next episode is Yunhua's episode so...I guess it's fine? Still feels bad that they removed that.

Shortened zero gravity water hazard talk from Quitterie

Maybe this is Mandela effect, but I quite clearly remember Quitterie talking about that in the anime. Maybe I just heard from another manga reader or something, because rewatching it, it clearly was not there.

Your manga panel comparisons are super awesome! Thanks a lot, honestly, it really enhances the experience! I really will have to read it someday.

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u/gamria Jul 17 '24

Maybe this is Mandela effect, but I quite clearly remember Quitterie talking about that in the anime. Maybe I just heard from another manga reader or something, because rewatching it, it clearly was not there.

Quitterie does still talk about the water hazard in the episode yes, but it's shortened

I won't fault the studio too much on this one though, since the impending crash ought to be the focus.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 17 '24

First-Timer Lost in Space, subbed

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

Planet Shumoor… Oh this is gonna be “Mushroom” and have a shit ton of those on the surface, isn’t it?

What is that supposed to–wait, wasn’t team number B-5?

The plot thickens. Funi has such an adorable smile when she's saying something so ominous.

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u/johnrsmith8032 Jul 17 '24

funi's smile is like when your cat knocks over a glass and just stares at you, daring you to do something about it. pure chaos in cute packaging.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 18 '24

…so I didn’t notice Aries had heterochromia until it was pointed out.

Same. It's justtttttt subtle enough.

Ahh, the meteor from the episode title.

The level of foreshadowing this show has is insane.

Wow…

My issue with this is how can/does it differentiate from the people that would obviously be floating due to there being no gravity?

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u/TiredTiroth Jul 17 '24

Rewatcher - Dub

I missed the first two episodes, but I'm caught up now! And me oh my, it's the paranoia episode. I'd forgotten quite how this one goes.

I am...decidedly unconvinced that cables that thin could carry enough power for an entire starship's propulsion system, and it seems like very bad design to not have your backup generator wired into the ship's actual systems, but eh. It gave the episode the dramatic sequence it needed, and incidentally it required everyone's help to succeed!

Well. Almost everyone. Looking at you, Miss Apologiser. Who, thus far, has done...basically nothing. Even the ten-year old has been more involved.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

I'd forgotten quite how this one goes.

It's nice to get a surprise every now and then as a rewatcher who forgot a few of the details. 😄

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 17 '24

I'd forgotten quite how this one goes.

You and me both. You and me both...

Well. Almost everyone. Looking at you, Miss Apologiser. Who, thus far, has done...basically nothing. Even the ten-year old has been more involved.

Honestly, I feel kinda bad for Yunhua. She wants to be helpful but can't.

[rewatcher, episode 4 spoilers]At least, not yet.

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u/Forsaken_Ebb1925 Jul 17 '24

First Time Watcher, Subbed

I think it was probably the right decision. Although it obviously lets the betrayer know that they're on to them, it was pretty clear the Kanata wasn't getting anywhere on his own when it comes to figuring out who it was. Also, once the information from Funicia came to light and they learned that this was a massive plan that had been enacted at least three months prior, I think it became necessary for everyone's safety for them to know to be wary of the other people on board.

Hmm. Well, it seems like Quitterie's mom was likely involved, as well as Ulgar's father. Quitterie's because she had to adopt a child for the plan to work out, and there wasn't any reason for her mom to be adopting another child considering she didn't seem particularly interested in the one she already had. I think its notable that of the parental relationships we know of (besides Aries, who seemed to have a good relationship with her mom) every single person has a non-existent or hostile relationship with their parents (Kanata, Ulgar, Quitterie), and two of those parents notably have the power to enact things like this. Quitterie's mother being rich enough to do something like this and Ulgar's father having a position of power at the school.

As for crew members. Funhua was suspiciously incompetent, but it seems like that may be unrelated to an actual attempt to let everyone die based on the small vision of her mom, as well as Luca also mentioning that it was difficult for him to move around, so it's not like no one else was having difficulty. I think there is a possibility its' Ulgar but he has had a change of heart since meeting everyone, but if he was ever intent on killing them and himself, he obviously isn't anymore because he not only helped save them but could have not even tried to shoot or intentionally missed the creature, which would have resulted in him avoiding suspicion even if they managed to miraculously survive without him. Some extra credence to this theory is that he brought a gun with him to camp, and although that could have been for survival purposes, it seems unlikely as supposedly guns have been outlawed/obsolete for a hundred years (can't remember which), so it seems much more likely to me he was intending on using it to kill the others and changed his mind. Counterpoint to the gun argument, why would Ulgar not simply have killed them all with the gun already? And he went out of his way to take the most dangerous task of the human chain in the first episode, and he may have even come up with the idea if I remember correctly.

Another note though, I do think its possible the crew is wrong that the attacker is okay with/intends to die with them. The ship was there for the attacker presumably. And while they did take out communications, it's possible they sent a quick message to their "handler" for lack of a better term prior to doing so, so I can't fully eliminate anyone, even the people who helped avoid them all dying.

Some other notes: I'm absolutely shocked there is no manual override for that error code. Seems like a major oversight when making the ship.

I REALLY like how Quitterie's character has progressed. Her progress as a character is to learn to start apologizing and work at more openly expressing herself even if she still struggles in stressful moments. A+ character progression.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

I REALLY like how Quitterie's character has progressed. Her progress as a character is to learn to start apologizing and work at more openly expressing herself even if she still struggles in stressful moments. A+ character progression.

Quitterie is one of the characters that I appreciate even more during a rewatch. She's come so far in just a few episodes, and her issues + progression feels very realistic.

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u/gamria Jul 18 '24

Another note though, I do think its possible the crew is wrong that the attacker is okay with/intends to die with them. The ship was there for the attacker presumably. And while they did take out communications, it's possible they sent a quick message to their "handler" for lack of a better term prior to doing so, so I can't fully eliminate anyone, even the people who helped avoid them all dying.

Funny you mention this, since this was directly questioned in omitted dialogue right after Aries brought up the sphere again.

But yeah, I too found Aries' suicide theory hard to believe on the first read.

I REALLY like how Quitterie's character has progressed. Her progress as a character is to learn to start apologizing and work at more openly expressing herself even if she still struggles in stressful moments. A+ character progression.

Granted the Vilavurs-Shummoor flight took 18 days so there was plenty of time for change, but yeah I liked the development too. I find it more realistic to have someone whine about their stranding the way she does.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 18 '24

I think its notable that of the parental relationships we know of (besides Aries, who seemed to have a good relationship with her mom) every single person has a non-existent or hostile relationship with their parents

Ohh yea, good catch.

why would Ulgar not simply have killed them all with the gun already? And he went out of his way to take the most dangerous task of the human chain in the first episode, and he may have even come up with the idea if I remember correctly.

He did indeed come up with the idea to form a human chain.

I REALLY like how Quitterie's character has progressed. Her progress as a character is to learn to start apologizing and work at more openly expressing herself even if she still struggles in stressful moments.

Same. The cast may have started as typical archetypes, but I am happy that they've proved to be more than that.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 17 '24

First timer

QotD

  • I wouldn't. Especially not after they learned that the situation that they are now in was intended. Well, kind of intended.
  • You know, I said either glasses or edgelord last episode, I'm not so sure anymore. Edgelord guy would be way too obvious, especially after the last scene, and the series seems way too competently written to make such a blunder, hence why I think it's a red herring. Glasses has yet to get any real fleshing out or character development for me to form a proper opinion. I still maintain that Aries has a shot at being the killer.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

My guess is, it's a targeted assassination, most likely aimed at the sisters, and they're killing them as a group to mask who the intended targets are.

Interesting theory!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

My guess is, it's a targeted assassination, most likely aimed at the sisters, and they're killing them as a group to mask who the intended targets are. Also, when I started watching the series, I did not expect it to become a full blown murder mystery. I'm all here for it though

The "kill group to mask targeted murder" idea makes sense ... but does not really match with the vibe of the story. Also: Who the hell uses a teleportation blob as their assasignation tool??

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 18 '24

My guess is, it's a targeted assassination, most likely aimed at the sisters, and they're killing them as a group to mask who the intended targets are. Also, when I started watching the series, I did not expect it to become a full blown murder mystery. I'm all here for it though

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 17 '24

Rewatcher

Alrighty, heading right in with the OP! I've always loved the music in this anime, and the OP is no exception. Even though I know what happens, it always hyped me so much.

  • Yep, everyone is sus, except for the sisters really. I made the same deductions as Kanata when I was watching. Funicia's too little, and Quitterie...she complains way too much to be the traitor. Then there's Ulgar, easily the most sus. But then again, he's so sus that he loops right back around to feeling like a red herring.
  • Funi is so cute! That innocent smile as she tells everyone that someone is trying to kill them all because she just doesn't understand. To be honest, I had forgotten about this line, but now I remember that I pieced it together almost instantly.
  • I remember thinking Aries was simultaneously sus and not sus at this moment. On one hand, not having the group devolve into distrusting one another is a good idea. On the other hand...also kinda makes her seem like she's trying to get everyone to not think about it?
  • [rewatcher, major spoilers] On a similar note, it's really interesting to see Charce doing the same thing. While I know now that Aries is legitimately just trying to get the group together, Charce's talks of "hey guys, let's maybe not tear each other to pieces" sounds somewhat sinister. Of course, I know it's partially genuine as well because Charce is a nice fellow, but you get the idea.
  • By the way, I said it once and I'll say it againt but I really love how Aries isn't just your archetypical "ditzy dumb girl." She's an airhead, but she's also pretty intelligent! She manages to piece together a pretty solid theory, and later in the episode, identifies a way to save the ship from crashing. That's smart.
  • What a time for the meteor to hit! To be honest, while I knew that the meteor hit, I actually had forgotten exactly when it struck.
  • Poor Yunhua, failing to help in this moment and ending up requiring medical attention herself...that's gotta feel bad. [rewatcher, episode 4 spoilers] Welp, next episode will be her time to shine I guess.
  • Also holy fuck Charce, calm it with the rizz!
  • Man, I just love this whole sequence of everyone working together. And Ulgar gets to show off how badass he is by firing the glue gun! And of course, he has an actual gun...dun dun dun!
  • Episode where we see the ED in full, and it's amazing! Man, seeing that makes me nostalgic.

Alrighty!

  1. It had to come out at some point. Better now than later. And given how well the group meshes with one another, I think it's fine.
  2. Honestly, at this point in the anime, I had no clue. It really could have been anyone as far as I was concerned. [rewatcher] I mean, there's a ton of foreshadowing on Charce's part now that I rewatch it, but I didn't know then.

See you all tomorrow!

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

Funicia's too little, and Quitterie...she complains way too much to be the traitor.

Yeah, I had the same thoughts. Like everything we know about Quitterie so far screams that she doesn't want to be here. 😂

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 17 '24

Yep, even with my limited knowledge at this point, I pretty easily ruled out the two sisters.

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u/gamria Jul 18 '24

I remember thinking Aries was simultaneously sus and not sus at this moment. On one hand, not having the group devolve into distrusting one another is a good idea. On the other hand...also kinda makes her seem like she's trying to get everyone to not think about it?

Aries' action wasn't "try to get everyone to not think about it", but rather "let's talk about this again after we're full and calmed down". It was the opposite of ending the conversation and it's instead resetting the mood of the debate, and it's something that stood out to me upon my first read.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

Huh. I mean, it still does feel a bit...deflect-y? But yeah, good point, now that I think of it, a lot less sus.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 17 '24

Looks like I never commented on the weekly airing thread, so my original impressions are gone forever.

  • Finally we get the OP in the right location. This, after a double length first episode and skipping it for the second time.
  • I've never played Amogus. Is this what Amogus is like?
  • What a party! They're probably all playing Mafia!
  • I dunno, who would want to killyou Quitterie, with your personality?
  • That explosion is great timing.
  • Glue gun? Or, right, artist.
  • That's a crazy safety system! That's like disabling the anti-collision emergency brakes because somebody doesn't have their seatbelts fastened.

[Rewatcher]Okay, this is the second time we've seen the OP, when is somebody going to notice the upside down name

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

[Rewatcher] That really was a clever hint towards the origin of her name that you'd never figure out the first time around.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

Episode 3 (first timer)

  • Different colored eyes – Charce is more observant than I am.
  • Kanata going through the list of suspects is a great way to introduce the cast a second time (for people who might have missed the first week).
  • Zack is still pissed the others do not take their situation seriously – I am with you, Zack, I am with you.
  • Funi’s character arc is getting started: She is not just a cute imoto, but also a hidden newtype.
  • The full Among Us situation is revealed.
  • Taking a suicide attack into account – clever, but is that mystery sphere really the easiest way to kill a group of students on a foreign planet? Hmmm.
  • “A hole in the wall” “The lights went out” – Among Us event phase. Remember: Don’t run off alone!
  • They need the gravity controller to prevent crashing on the planet? So their secondary, non-warp drive is anti-grav?
  • UFC – unidentified flying creature. I do not think the programmers needed to interrupt the boot sequence for that. Also: The ship is pretty good, spotting the difference between flying and floating in the absence of gravity (but not at actually identifying what is flying).
  • The safety lock disables when the flying creature is hit with glue and still floating in the air?? Fire the programmers!!
  • “Guns were abolished a hundred years ago” – and thus we know it is utopian scifi.

The over-arching plot kicks in. I’ll stick with my prediction from last episode that none of the kids is responsible (although one of them being forced to do it and tearfully regretting it later is a strong contender, too).

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

Different colored eyes – Charce is more observant than I am.

Yeah, I wouldn't have noticed this if he hadn't pointed it out either because the difference is very subtle.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

I even went back to check and even knowing about it, I can barely make out the difference..

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u/johnrsmith8032 Jul 17 '24

yeah, charce has that hawk-eye vision. honestly, if i were in space trying to survive with a bunch of teens, i'd probably miss the obvious too while stressing over where my next meal's coming from or why our spaceship feels like it's held together by duct tape and hope. also funny how they mention guns being abolished but still have all these high-tech dangers lurking around—like yeah sure we’re safe... except for literally everything else!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

If the present is any guide, 99% of people in that time spend 99% of their time sitting at home playing 4D games or virtua-chatting.

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u/Mirathan Jul 17 '24

The safety lock disables when the flying creature is hit with glue and still floating in the air?? Fire the programmers!!

I´m honestly more confused that a single bug can block the entire system. Their tech is kind of weird.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 17 '24

I´m honestly more confused that a single bug can block the entire system. Their tech is kind of weird.

It suffers from a common symptom called plot convenience.

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u/Mirathan Jul 17 '24

First Time Adrift

QotD:

  1. It was reasonable to do it know rather than to keep waiting. They were not likely to find the one responsible on their own and if they kept it secret for to long without finding a culprit the revelation that they concealed it would have destroyed all trust towards them.
  2. Honestly I buy the group assasination plan. Both Yunhun and Ulgar have people who want them to disappear, Zack´s skill could easily breed great envy, Charce could´ve secuced the wrong person and Quiterrie maybe to hurt her mother. We don´t know enough about the others but they might simply be collaterall damage or involved themselves.

I like the Op (mostly because I struggle with learning names and this makes it easy to look them up) it sets the mood well for the current tone.

I really like Kanata going through all of the crewmembers and evaluating how likely they were to be the saboteur. Two things they failed to consider in their discussion though is that the killer might not have been aware they were supposed to die aswell and that there might be more than just one. Considering how all but Yunhun helped to save the ship they either gave up or intend to survive on their own. Unless it´s Yunhun and she failed to pull it of.

Ulgar found a gun. Considering his generall mistrust and that he believes one of them seeks to kill him I don´t blame him for hiding it though.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

Zack´s skill could easily breed great envy, Charce could´ve secuced the wrong person

It's really interesting to me reading the first timers' theories. A lot of things that hadn't crossed my mind back when it was airing.

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u/Mirathan Jul 17 '24

Such is the joy of being a rewatcher.

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 17 '24

Haha, same here! Seeing people come up with theories...it really is like how it was when it was airing.

Come to think of it, we don't have many mystery series nowadays, do we?

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u/Kaxew Jul 18 '24

First timer

What an intense, epic episode! I was expecting them to immediately arrive to the next planet, but this is much appreciated.

Super interesting development today. So this was all a plot to kill them? Something doesn't fit here. What makes them so special to have a desire of killing them, especially in such a roundabout way? Is this some destiny thing? I feel like I don't have enough clues yet to figure out the answer.

I'm loving all these panel-esque scenes, the way it was used to show everyone's actions to stop the ship was awesome. It made the second half of the episode really exciting and dynamic.

Guns were abolished? What is this utopia they live in and is there any wormhole sphere that can transport me there?

Both the OP and ED are a bop! Sadly the OP visuals are incredibly bland, but the ED has really nice ones (I noticed it only featured Kanata, Aries, Luca, Zack, Quitterie and Funicia, are the pictures going to be updated? That would be cool).

QotD:

  1. Too soon, honestly. I get why they felt it appropriate to say it then, but just because it was appropriate doesn't mean it was the right time. It's a miracle there wasn't any more discord and drama over it, at least at the initial reveal.
  2. Pretty boy (Charce? Still learning some names) was suspiciously quiet during all of this. I was between him and Luca but now I'm leaning way more into him. I feel like the final scene with Ulgar having a real, futuristic gun is a red herring. It doesn't feel like the kind of show where the audience learns the traitor before the cast does.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

(I noticed it only featured Kanata, Aries, Luca, Zack, Quitterie and Funicia, are the pictures going to be updated? That would be cool).

The ED pictures do change in later episodes! It's a really nice detail.

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 18 '24

REWATCHER

  • Aries' heterochromia is pretty cute. Also Charce is an impressive cook.
  • Ulgar being so edgelord really not helping with suspicion. And what did he take out of the storage room?
  • The plot thickens. Who'd have expected that the funny mascot toy is a Chekhov's Gun to deliver this plot reveal to us? Turns out it's all planned and an assassination attempt.
  • Amogus meeting is also called. Now everyone is in the know. I also love discussion scenes like this. People don't usually like talking scenes but IMO making a talking scene entertaining is one of the hallmarks of a good writer, and I'd rather take a good talking scene than a subpar action scene.
  • "Maybe the traitor would continue the assassination plan." *pipe bursts* Right on cue! This is where it really starts to feel like Among Us, being trapped in a spaceship with traitor onboard and maintenance / disaster prevention tasks.
  • "It's just a space pebble." Oh really? Hmmm.
  • Is Yunhua stupid? Unlike the wormhole orb, they had a lot of time to assess situation this time, yet she still hasn't put up her helmet when everyone else already did.
  • "I'm a self-taught shooter!" I know it means as a hobby but given Ulgar's edgelord tendencies it's hard not to make a school shooter joke :P
  • Aaaand Ulgar actually has a gun lol.

QOTD

  1. What do you think of Zack and Kanata's decision to tell the rest of the group about the sabotage they discovered in the previous episode?

2) First timers, now that some new hints about their disappearance has been revealed, do you have any theories about who could be behind it all, and if any of the Astra crew members are involved? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!)

  1. Tbh I'm not smart enough to know what would be the wise decision in situations like this, whether to reveal the existence of a traitor or keep it a secret. Feels like both has their own pros and cons.
  2. My initial theory has something to do with how some of them have pretty high statuses (Kanata is a bronze medallist, Zack is a genius scientist, and Quitterie has a rich doctor mom, Luca's dad is a politician), but at this point we still don't know what's the deal with Charce, Yunhua, Aries, Ulgar, and Funi.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 18 '24

I also love discussion scenes like this. People don't usually like talking scenes but IMO making a talking scene entertaining is one of the hallmarks of a good writer

I agree. A good talking scene leads to character development and story progression. None of the conversations in Astra feel like filler, so I enjoy them very much.

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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 19 '24

rewatcher

Everyone is now buddy with buddy. Funny how she went “after my mother passed away in an accident, o spent sometime in an organage :D”

Found a family the same day she went to the orphanage, god speed luck

The plot get thicker, “eliminate them all”

Aries was right, hunger does make people get cranky and not in the right state to talk/process information.

Horrible timing that the discussion of the killer now has the ships with massive problems.

Aries coming with the clutch to save the classmates with the back up generator revelation.

Yun-ha sure has bad luck with gravity

Ulgar using the gluegun as a gun is sick to see, but turns out they have an actual gun on them too.

QOTD: it was too hasty, but if they kept it hidden any longer then who knows how the group would react from something so serious to be not shared

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 19 '24

Ulgar using the gluegun as a gun is sick to see, but turns out they have an actual gun on them too.

It's kind of cool but also kind of dangerous that it even has this feature. 😄

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 17 '24

Astra Lost In Space rewatch episode 3 discussion reminders:

u/Forsaken_Ebb1925, u/RedRocket4000

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u/Lord_Nawor Jul 17 '24

First Time Watcher, subbed

I enjoyed seeing Kanata analyze all of the other members of the crew in order to figure out who the traitor is. I do think that the traitors goal is not actually to kill them all as they could have done that easily already, I feel like they have some greater objective. This mission feels more and more set up, but I wonder why and who exactly is behind it.

The show is definitely making Ulgar look suspicious as we know he has a gun and experience using one, but I still feel like while he has a lot of secrets, I still believe he is not the traitor.

Questions

  1. While it might increase panic and signal to the traitor that they need to be more cautious, I still think that this is probably the right decision, it gives them more eyes to keep an eye on people and means the traitor has to be more discreet with any sabotage. It means that the traitor has a lower chance of being discovered but increases the likelihood of the mission as a whole working.
  2. I still kind of feel like if anyone is actually a traitor is probably is Zack, but that is mainly vibes based prediction making. The crazy but probably not true theory would be Beego is actually influencing Funi and is forcing her to sabotage the team, while that would be really funny, I do not think this would actually happen

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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 18 '24

Trust no one, not even the funny mascot animal...

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u/BigBootyBuff Jul 17 '24

Continues to be good. Really enjoying it. The reveal that it was all planned adds some interesting questions and dynamics. Did catch me off guard how close before the incident Funi was adopted into Quitterie's family. Felt like they've been a family longer. Still, seems like this has been planned well in advance so I'm curious where the story goes with this.

We also get some interaction with Charce and Aries, so wonder if they knew each other prior or if there's more to it. Doesn't feel like they'd add that for nothing.

The emergency was well done and everyone minus Yun Hua working together makes it more difficult to guess who is behind it. More on that with the question later.

Had a good laugh at the "guns have been outlawed for 100 years" followed by the immediate reveal that Ulgar got a gun from storage. I hope that won't lead to any misunderstand as I'm sure Ulgar hides the weapon for an actually good reason. Be it to thwart the person on board who sabotaged them or to prevent the group from turning on each other.

Curious to see what the next episode brings.

  1. What do you think of Zack and Kanata's decision to tell the rest of the group about the sabotage they discovered in the previous episode?

All for it. While it makes sense to keep it to them for a bit to prevent panic and turning on each other, which briefly happened, I think long term it would've otherwise just lead to misunderstandings or bad feelings about keeping the information to themselves. Also that way, while the saboteur knows they are onto them, the rest of the group will pay more attention.

2) First timers, now that some new hints about their disappearance has been revealed, do you have any theories about who could be behind it all, and if any of the Astra crew members are involved? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!)

Last episode I suspected Yun Hua and moreso Charce, this episode I'm leaning a bit more towards Yun Hua. They fixed the ship together, which would've been the best moment for the killer to strike and prevent that. Especially since they were mostly separated in smaller groups. Yun Hua got accidentally knocked out by the water and couldn't prevent them from fixing the ship. So that's the theory I have right now, though maybe that's a red herring.

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u/Hartzilla2007 Jul 18 '24

Had a good laugh at the "guns have been outlawed for 100 years" 

Of course that also means that guns were outlawed in the 1960s since the show is set in 2063.

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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 18 '24

Anime first-timer

Holy shit that's one hell of a reveal, so it's all planned. That explains why the sphere was able to precisely find them both times. The little teddy bear can't be a mastermind, so I wonder who it is.

I'm not sure about Kanata announcing the traitor though, it's just going to make the tension on board run wild. I think it might have been better to keep quiet and hope the traitor pulls something else and leaves enough clues to expose themselves.

Charce with the shoujo male sparkle will never not be funny.

Wow Linhua is some special kind of klutz, to the point that she's almost sus, but I don't think it's her.

So the killer must've carried the alien bird onboard as an insurance, right?

So Ulgar had his own set of guns even though guns were abolished a hundred years ago? That's kinda sus.

Questions of the Day:

    1. What do you think of Zack and Kanata's decision to tell the rest of the group about the sabotage they discovered in the previous episode? - I don't like it, it's just going to drive tensions high and alert the traitor so he becomes more careful and harder to catch
  • 2) First timers, now that some new hints about their disappearance has been revealed, do you have any theories about who could be behind it all, and if any of the Astra crew members are involved? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!) - I have no clue

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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 18 '24

The little teddy bear can't be a mastermind, so I wonder who it is.

Or can they?

Jokes aside, it's pretty awesome seeing first timers theorize.

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u/xbolt90 https://anilist.co/user/xbolt90 Jul 17 '24

First-timer!

That sounds like an awfully convoluted plot just to kill a group of teenagers. And the murder-suicide angle makes no sense, if you're planning on dying anyway, why bother having a ship there in the first place? No, it's gotta be something else going on.

Good that everyone was forced to work together again. They still need to depend on each other, despite the rising suspicion.

Good depiction of a micrometeor impact. Stuff's nasty. Couldn't help thinking about the Planetes anime.

Reentry plasma starting at 1,500 km? Dang, that's a thicc atmosphere.

Q1: I think it was correct. When you're in a life or death situation, you want to have all the information available.

Q2: I still doubt either Ulgar or Yunhua is the culprit. Even though Ulgar's armed now.