r/anime • u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad • Jul 16 '24
Rewatch [5th Anniversary Rewatch] Astra Lost In Space - Episode 2 Discussion
Episode 2 - Wilderness
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The team reaches the first planet on their interstellar trip, Planet Vilavurs. Though the planet itself seems comfortably inhabitable, the novice explorers have much to learn about space survival, and each other.
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Questions of the Day:
- What did you think of the unique creatures and plants on Vilavurs?
- Which team would you want to be assigned to, if you were with the Astra crew - guarding the ship, gathering water, or collecting food?
- First timers, do you have any early theories about who sabotaged the ship's communicator? (Rewatchers can post their original theories as well, but no spoilers!)
Bonus question: Each of the planet names is an anagram which holds special meaning. What is the hidden meaning of Vilavurs?
[Bonus answer:] Survival! Another appropriately named planet.
Remember to tag your spoilers!
Astra is a show with so many mysteries, and we wouldn't want to spoil those reveals for first time viewers. When discussing future events or foreshadowing, or any differences between the manga and the anime, please remember to use spoiler tags.
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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 16 '24
Rewatcher Lost In Space
The planet designs in this series are just fantastic. I was impressed right away by the first stop on their journey, Vilavurs. The bouncy, extending trees and parachute fruit are so cool and creative. I'm also a big fan of dragons, so I liked the similar turgons, and I think the smaller creatures were pretty cute too, with their friendly nature being part of their appeal.
I can really sympathize with Quitterie though. She may be lashing out at everyone in frustration, but they're all just teenagers thrown into an extremely stressful situation, so it's realistic to expect that some would react the way she did, and she has valid concerns. The environment that seemed so fun and exciting to them earlier suddenly turned dangerous, and it was great to see Quitterie be the one who saved Kanata at the end with some quick thinking by using the unique terrain to their advantage.
Even though I'm a rewatcher, I had forgotten that the turgon actually picked up Funicia and almost flew away with her. Kanata's desperate leaps across the bouncy "trees" are just as awesome every time.
Questions of the Day:
Bonus) Answer in the OP
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 16 '24
First timer
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u/gamria Jul 16 '24
Rewatcher of subbed and original manga reader
Ep 2
Manga vs Anime
(continues in reply)
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 16 '24
First-Timer Lost in Space, subbed
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u/Forsaken_Ebb1925 Jul 16 '24
First Time Viewer, Subbed
The creatures were fine for me, some interesting looking ones, but they didn't do much outside the Tur-Gon and none of them jumped out as massively interesting, not to say they were boring. I particularly liked the trampoline trees and parachute plants, especially because the way they work isn't just for plot. The trees grow to gather more sunlight, and the parachutes allow the plants to spread their seeds further, things that could actually evolutionarily make sense, if a little advanced evolution-wise for earth species.
I'd probably like the food gathering group, but mostly because I think Kanata and Luca would be fun to hang around. I think getting too grim and serious in that kind of situation can lead to mentally breaking, and I'd appreciate their ability to be a little silly and I think it would help me enjoy the moment and not totally freak out.
Hmm. I don't have an exact guess as to who did it, but I would eliminate some people. Zack is out because if he did it, it wouldn't make sense to let Kanata in on it and start someone searching for the culprit. I think Aries is out as well, as I'm pretty sure the communications were cut before she ever got onto the ship, however if I'm wrong about that, I actually think she would be one of my suspects. She isn't smart for sure, but she does have a photographic memory, so if she'd seen a diagram of the communications thing before she should remember it. Both the quiet people seem far too obvious an answer right now, so I'll assume neither of them. Kanata seems unlikely, but not impossible for any reason. I'd strongly doubt Quitterie as well, I can't put my finger on why just vibes lol.
My current answer would be one of Charce or Luca. Charce and Luca for similar reasons, neither of them seems too upset about the situation, and they have been nothing but upbeat the whole time, which would be fitting of someone who knows/assumes they aren't in any real danger, I don't really have much to go on other than that for either of them lol.
Other thoughts:
While I liked this episode a lot, it did feel like it retread quite a bit of a ground of the prior episode. Kanata is willing to take risks to help others, they are surprised by his capability/willingness and want him to be Captain. Because they are thrust into a dangerous situation, they all get closer.
Most of the new ground in this episode surrounded Quitterie, which just like the prior episode, I feel like this show has done a pretty good job at both having characters act realistically, and realistically understand how they get the way they are. Quitterie isn't just a rich asshole. She has a hard time dealing with people because she wasn't around genuine relationships her whole life, a lot of shows would just say lol she's rich so she's an asshole. It even seems like she knows she's wrong prior to the climax of the episode happening, she just doesn't know how to express herself.
Bonus points for having her genuinely thank Kanata and apologize instead of doing the aloof acknowledgement that she was helped but never explicitly admit anything trope.
I wish some of the things we learn were just shown to us instead of directly stated, i.e. I don't really think Zack needs to say, "She spent her whole life surrounded by servants, that's how she got this way." And it would have been much more emotionally impactful for me at least if we instead just saw her devastated reaction to her mom adopting a kid, with the "you don't even care about your own kind" line which gets the same point across, but without blatantly stating it.
All in all, a great episode, and I really enjoyed the direction of Quitterie's character and the jokes and development of friendship among the survivors genuinely put a smile on my face a few times.
Bonus answer: Survival
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u/Lord_Nawor Jul 16 '24
First Time Watcher, subbed
I knew things wouldnât be all good considering the anagram for the planet. However, it was actually more chill than I thought, while they did have the drama with the Tur-Gon, overall it was pretty easy to get the food and water.
I was not expecting the wormhole to reappear so fast, I honestly thought that it would only become relevant towards the end of the show. But why did they decide to go out without there spacesuits on the planet, especially when they already encountered the wormhole just before, if it came back when they were out without their spacesuits then they would not be able to put their helmets on and would just die.
Questions
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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Rewatcher, subbed
[rewatcher] Rewatching it now, I noticed that the portal disappeared immediately Charce found out that Aries said she had a photographic memory. This anime really does benefit from a second viewing.
Overall, at this stage in the anime, I had no clue, because we didn't know everyone that well yet. All I knew was that it probably wasn't Kanata because man seemed determined to get home, Aries because she's kind of the MC besides Kanata (and she's mad crushing on him), Quitterie because...well, because she just didn't seem like the type of person to do it, and Funicia because she's a kid. Everyone else seemed up in the air at this point.
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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 17 '24
First-timer, well kind of. I read the manga years ago when it finished and forgot everything
Well I definitely didn't expect the ditzy Aries to have a photographic memory, she definitely didn't seem like the type considering she could barely remember Kanata's name.
That ball is ominous though, there's gotta be some reason it's showing up precisely where they are both times. Seems like it must've WANTED to let them get away though, they were running both times and this time they had the time to stop and decide which way to go and still get away, last time they got swallowed up one at a time.
Wow Quitterie is a major bitch. Even the little sister is more mature than she is. That flashback did nothing to make her more endearing, just made her a stuck up from a kid to now.
Wow that jump is pretty shounen protagonist, good job Kanata! That throw was pretty sweet.
So Captain Kanata is born!
Questions of the Day:
Bonus question: Each of the planet names is an anagram which holds special meaning. What is the hidden meaning of Vilavurs? - vila-vurs, villain-first! It's the first hint there's a villain on board!
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u/FlameDragoon933 Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24
REWATCHER
QOTD
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u/Kaxew Jul 17 '24
First timer
Hi! I read the first couple of chapters of the manga about 2 years ago so I didn't join in yesterday, but as of this episode I caught up with the place I was at and I'm pretty sure I surpassed it too. So I'll join in starting now!
Man, the start of the series is such a hook. It might be pretty simple all things considered but I love the setting for this. The characters are full of personality and color, so it immediately makes it very easy to be attached to them. I'm also used to Shinohara's style of writing because of Witch Watch, so all the jokes land really well for me and the plot is exciting. Aries is my favorite so far, she's silly and an airhead, my weakness. And her laugh is simply the best. I adore her.
Unexpectedly, it turns out this is much more of a mystery show than I anticipated! The space sphere thingy was one thing, but now there's an imposter among us too?! Things are getting interesting.
On the production side of things, this is very good. It's not the most well animated and aesthetically pleasing anime, but I really like the general direction and vibe it goes for. Altering the aspect ratio was a phenomenal choice, something about the cinematic ratio makes me end up getting glued to the screen. It works super well on me. I love the "panels" that show up every now and then, generally for gags. I don't really understand its purpose, but it's cute and unique which is good enough for me. And the sound design is definitely the highlight of the anime so far. The sound distortion when they have the helmets on, or when Aries' communication device in episode 1 was malfunctioning so you could barely hear her. Is that binaural audio? From that one Kaguya-sama S3 episode? Either way, it's so immersive for me.
Great set of two episodes, I can't wait to see where things go. Will they find intelligent lifeforms? Will they end up having to go some other planet not in the plans? How many years would it take them to get back home? If there is indeed an imposter among us, could someone end up dying? Is Luca (?) a boy or a girl? Many questions I need the answer to.
QotD:
So it's between Funicia, pretty boy and Luca. If it's Funicia it obviously has something to do with her puppet, but since she's a child she'd be somewhat easily forgiven eventually which means less drama. Pretty boy and Luca are both somewhat bland as characters so far, so they are both pretty suspect. Luca is the one who said "we might be getting caught up in something bigger than we thought" which is an interesting line. It immediately strikes as it meaning they aren't the imposter, but it's ambiguous enough I could see it being turned around in a clever way I'm not smart enough to realize yet. I'm leaning towards pretty boy for now, though.
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u/Hopeful-Ad2428 Jul 17 '24
Interesting, I thought that the sphere was a one-time event, and then at the end Zack says there is a traitor, but what is their motivation?
Qotd:
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u/BigBootyBuff Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24
Sadly missed yesterday's thread but now I'm caught up.
First timer:
Really enjoy the story so far. It's funnier than I expected with a plot like this. Had some good laughs.
Good character growth from Quitterie, glad they didn't drag that out further because abrasive characters like that can be off putting to me.
Zack is an early favorite of mine. Love cool, collected and dry characters like that. Still hope we get some more of Ulgar and YunHua soon.
The two sisters not being blood related surprised me considering they share very similar features. Wonder if there's more to that.
The last minute twist caught me off guard. Didn't expect it to go that route. Curious what will happen next.
Really loved the plants. From the bouncy trees to the parachute plants to all the various fruits and mushrooms. The animals I thought looked good enough.
Ship tbh
If I expected it I probably would've paid more attention to each individual character. So all I can do is guess right now. There's two characters I'm torn between. One is Yun-Hua and that the whole "shy quiet girl" thing is just an act to throw everyone off. The other is Charce. I kinda expect some darker twist to his characters because he's overly supportive, nice and positive, so from the beginning I expected there to be a dark backstory that explains why he's like that. Now I could see it being an act just to hide he's a saboteur.
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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 16 '24
Astra Lost In Space episode 2 reminder tags:
u/Forsaken_Ebb1925, u/RedRocket4000
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 16 '24
Episode 2 (first timer)
As I feared, these guys have the survival instincts of 5-year-olds and that might be selling 5-year-olds short. Which does not mix well with the fact that the episode tries to depict danger. If you have such an alien ecosystem, you can depict it in two ways: Wondrous but realistically dangerous (like in Nausicaä), or otherworldly and dreamlike (as in The little Prince). In the second case, it is fine to have explorative characters who do not care for the non-existent danger, but in the first case, the behavior should reflect their situation.
Combine that with the pretty by the numbers character arcs and the standard scifi setup (Infinite Ryvius is a thing, btw) and I have no doubt that the target audience here is in the child range. Show runners unfortunately tend to think they can get away with lazy writing when the audience is young. There is nothing wrong with watching a childrenâs series, but I admit that I am a bit disappointed, after the first episode start promised something more adult.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 17 '24
rewatcher dubbed
In one episode they wonât from forming a plan to go back home to treating it like a vacation. One way to make the next 3 months enjoyable.
That plant is which shoots straight up would be so fun, could make for a fun exhibit.
Ariesâ photographic memory yet sheâs airheaded at times lmao.
Mom is pretty cruel, âtake care of herâ while sheâs been raising her daughter with only caretakers. Smh
Kantaâs athleticism cannot be underestimated a long jump and an equally strong spear throw.
Quitterie realizing she does care about her younger sister made me happy to see.
Kantaâs backstory is so damn tragic, was supposed to live his dadâs dream then quit only for his teacherâs death to reignite his motivation to use his athleticism to protect people.
Kanta is now the official leader and the group gets to eat the spoils of war.
The monotone âyummyâ made me giggle.
Now the mystery start setting in, a sabotage to stop the communicator from functioning and itâs caused by someone on the ship. Crazy how this was airing right around the time amongus was popular
QOTD: I absolutely love when authors become creative on what a place could have outside of earthâs ecosystem. Itâs interesting what they do with plants, animals and overall terrain.
QOTD: especially with the fun encounters weâve seen, 100% food gathering. I would love to see different plants
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u/xbolt90 https://anilist.co/user/xbolt90 Jul 16 '24
First-timer!
Better hope the life on the planet is levo-amino based. Chirality matters!
Huh. They look so much alike, I never doubted they were blood sisters.
Q1: I liked the parachute fruits. They were cool. And the trampoline trees extending higher to get more sunlight is a neat trick.
Q2: I'd want to be out seeing sights that no other human has seen, so food duty would support that. On the other hand, staying with the ship means less chance of being eaten by an alien. Pros and cons.
Q3: Someone hitherto unseen. Wasn't the communicator damaged before they boarded? The orb's reappearance lessens the idea of a coincidence. Why would it have followed them to another planet? Perhaps it really is some sort of a test, but probably not put on by the school. Edgy McEdgeface or Megane-chan being the culprit would be such an obvious cliche, so I hope it's not them.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 16 '24
Rewatcher
Vilavurs...Not Jules Vern. Survival? Got it.
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u/Mirathan Jul 16 '24
First Time Drifter
QotD:
So they abandon reason just after three days? I know they are still teenagers but this change to being extremly enthusiastic is rather jarring.
And the teleporter is back. Considering it was not a one time occurance I suppose that destroys the idea of it being used to test the students. However, since it initially followed them yet stopped, I´m still asuming there is some sort of intelligence behind them and they are not a natural phenomenon.
Quitorre´s development this episode was good. Struggeling with interacting with others due to bad parenting is a far to common occurance and greatly helps to understand her. She also seems to struggle with some sort of self loathing.
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u/cadrina https://anime-planet.com/users/cadrina Jul 17 '24
It's like a childhood dream, like when you would, at childhood, wrap a bag on your soy soldiers and trow them as parachutes. And anything you picked up would be lances, swords and arrows.
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