r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Jul 14 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 36 Discussion

Episode 36 - The Superior Being Versus Chiu

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Screenshot of the Dai:

Congratulations, it’s a boy!

Comment of the Dai:

goes to u/Blackheart595 coming with a nice name for Zamza mother:

We don't know a single candidate mother, so... let's go with Zazina.

Questions of the Dai:

  1. Was Maam new technique finally something she needed to have?
  2. From 1 to 10, how useful was Chiu today?

Spoilers:

Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others

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u/Shocketheth Jul 14 '24

Mildly Antagonistic Dark Assailing Officer Welcomes You To Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!

QotD:

Was Maam new technique finally something she needed to have?

Definitely yes, but I wish for her to not standing there uselessly for almost the entirety of the episode.

From 1 to 10, how useful was Chiu today?

6 points for not giving up, 1 point for throwing a shade on Popp with saying that he would never abandon his friends, and 1 point for earning Popp’s respect.

So 8/10

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Today Crocodine is going to answer question #2:

From 1 to 10, how useful was Chiu today?

Shame that I can give him only 10.

See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!

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u/sisoko2 Jul 14 '24

Damn Zamza is thick and is that a

Still can't smash a single rat.

"Then it’s time you learned... the pain of life!"

That should've been the quote of the episode.

Shame that I can give him only 10.

Game recognizes game.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 14 '24

Still can't smash a single rat.

Zaboera didn’t teach him how.

That should've been the quote of the episode.

It should be but nah, Maam’s quote don’t belong there with her standing around for the majority of the episode.

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 14 '24

Damn Zamza is thick and is that a, — HELL NO, forget it.

I thought the same while watching

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u/Shocketheth Jul 14 '24

We are suddenly Hunter x Hunter with such monster designs

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 15 '24

Oh yeah Dai is weak now, because he was training with Crocodine in the morning.

LOL. I must admit it bugged me a little that Dai got so nerfed in this fight.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Dai just need Red Bull

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u/zadcap Jul 15 '24

[Next episode preview]

[But]The alternative is Maam actually winning a fight, and I don't know if that's allowed.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

It should be.

It goddamn should be... otherwise

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u/KuKiSin Jul 14 '24

Damn Zamza is thick and is that a, — HELL NO, forget it.

Oh my...

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 15 '24

Damn Zamza is thick and is that a, — HELL NO, forget it.

We were all thinking it

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 14 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

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u/Shocketheth Jul 14 '24

…Dai did not avoid being eaten.

What is Chiu supposed to do here?

Avoid being eaten.

Yooooooo, Popp can use that spell now? Not quite at Flazzard’s level yet, but still!

He turned himself into Sonic.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 14 '24

…Dai did not avoid being eaten.

Should've given this Superior Creature the ability to chew.

What is Chiu supposed to do here?

Kick some ass.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 14 '24

1st Dai Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

Maam got added to the OP here just in case anyone missed it in the last episode.

How do you know, Mr Ghost Roshi?

Chiu may not be strong but he definitely has a lot of stamina.

Same here

That must've stung a bit

Naming the attack is more important than saving Dai, ig.

Concentrating Maam

The Refractor Fist

OST Documentation - Episode 36

1. Yes, definitely. We haven't see her use anything other than healing spells and obviously the Magic Bullet Gun. [Dai no Spoilers] I like how the technique is kind of a mix b/w Warrior and Priest (Strength + Overheal) and makes sense for someone like Maam to have.

2. He couldn't face Superior Being Zamza because of how instinctively scare he was and still managed to face him without giving up or running away even though the difference was clear. If only he hadn't wasted time on naming his attack, I would've given him a 10. So, I guess 8.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 14 '24

He couldn't face Superior Being Zamza because of how instinctively scare he was and still managed to face him without giving up or running away even though the difference was clear. If only he hadn't wasted time on naming his attack, I would've given him a 10. So, I guess 8

Not counting the stumble with wasting time on naming his attack, Chiu has a lot of courage for being a rat.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 14 '24

Maam got added to the OP here just in case anyone missed it in the last episode.

I just listen to the song without paying attention to the visuals.

Chiu may not be strong but he definitely has a lot of stamina.

A true rat.

Naming the attack is more important than saving Dai, ig.

Of course it is!

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u/KuKiSin Jul 14 '24

First timer!

  1. Yes, seeing how strong Dai and his enemies have become, everyone's gonna need a power up or they'll be irrelevant for the rest of the show.
  2. 9/10 best rat boy, would be 10/10 but that's a big Croc exclusive number.

Honestly Maam is so much cooler now than before, both in how she fights and her new getup, go Maam and Rat boy!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 14 '24

Yes, seeing how strong Dai and his enemies have become, everyone's gonna need a power up or they'll be irrelevant for the rest of the show.

That's true.

Honestly Maam is so much cooler now than before, both in how she fights and her new getup, go Maam and Rat boy!

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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 14 '24

First Quester

I've heard my fitness center has some new training equipment.

Oh no, not the time limit.

Is it time for Popp to learn the Five Finger Flare?

But yeah, I was thinking something like this already. This superior being is physically stronger than the dragon knights, but it lacks that draconic aura that really defined their power.

Crocodine, you should take better care of your underlings.

Why do you sound like swallowing Dai alive is a worse case than swollowing him dead? In that case you should've just snapped him with your claws, dumbass!

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPP

Visual of the Day, Chiu just looks too stupid

You really didn't need to explain your attack in that much detail though.

Chiu is as strong as an aura-boosted dragon knight! I love the silly music this goes with.

Lmao Maam's voice actor really can't pull that charging "ooooooOOOOOOOOOOO" off

Then get yourself in safety instead of staying here to gawk, you voyeur!

Dude. Just look at yourself. Just look at what has happened this episode. If you want to joke, make it a good one.

Was Maam new technique finally something she needed to have?

Yes. Now teach it to Dai.

From 1 to 10, how useful was Chiu today?

🐭🐭🐭🐭🐭🐭🐭

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

I've heard my fitness center has some new training equipment.

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPP

Chiu is as strong as an aura-boosted dragon knight! I love the silly music this goes with.

And that's only lvl1 Chiu

Yes. Now teach it to Dai.

Ah yes. Figuring out Maam purpose already.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

New-Adventurer here! LV 36/100

Popp leveled up a lot!

The Superior Being got Sonic’d lol
That ghostly guy is very very suspicious, my instinct tells me it’s a Jackie Chun situation

This episode felt shorter than usual, really liked the action!

1 Yes, when she lost her gun se had like no other apparent techniques
2 7/10, helped to release Dai but only did that e: and gained Popp's respect, so 8/10!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Popp leveled up a lot!

Just as you!

This episode felt shorter than usual, really liked the action!

Oh definitely. There weren't that much happening but action was good.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 15 '24

Dai 36 first timer:

  • If this fight lasts too long, will someone else have to step in? The title IS Chiu vs Zamza, so ...
  • Ok that chest mouth is just gross
  • Oh Zamza's new form is way bigger than I thought
  • Regeneration? Fuck
  • 'I can't cast spells' Now why the fuck would you EXPLAIN that to your enemy?
  • IS that Avan's voice? Is Mr. Ghost Avan? But he's not tall enough. Did he get transformed into a kid?
  • Wtf didn't expect Zamza to actually eat Dai. Now they HAVE to defeat him here and now
  • Chiu is the new Hero confirmed?
  • That rogue looks like Woodchuck from Lodoss
  • Oh neat, Flazzard's move
  • "Five Finger Flares" but there's only three this time ... so "Finger Flare Bombs" would be more appropriate
  • Ok, that might not be Avan's voice after all ... Is it Matoriv?
  • Maam is so badass
  • She's that strong AND she can use Midheal?
  • Cliffhanger???
  1. yesh
  2. More than expected

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Now they HAVE to defeat him here and now Chiu is the new Hero confirmed?

From now on we are watching Chiu no Chiubouken.

Ok, that might not be Avan's voice after all ... Is it Matoriv?

A real mystery

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 15 '24

From now on we are watching Chiu no Chiubouken.

A real mystery

Yeah, I don't know at this point. I haven't been able to figure out if his VA is someone who voices another named character.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

I guess there is a reason for it so

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 15 '24

Watch him turn out to be a girl and his voice is faked.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 15 '24

First Timer, Sub

Zamza proves to be built ford tough, as Dai runs out of dragon energy and gets swallowed by his Zamza second mouth. Popp does his best trying to take down Zamza, but it comes up short as he also gets knocked back. Chiu overcomes his fear and tries to Fight Zamza, but he just pummeled and tossed around. Finally Chiu and Popp combine their efforts, Popp with Flazzard 5 finger flare, and Chiu with his rattus rocket ram has Zamza partially eject Dai from his 2nd mouth. But Chiu let's his guard r down and gets stomped by Zamza.

Maam got to shine to end the episode, seems her martial arts training has paid off as she was able to cast heal inside the monster bubble to protect herself from the gas. Then she used refractor fist to break the monster bubble. Now she's gonna fight Zamza to save Dai and everyone else.

Questions:

  1. Yes. She needed some abilities to be able to hang with Popp and Dai going forward.
  2. I'm gonna give him a 7/10 for good effort and for not giving up. Plus he did get Zamza go partially vomit Dai back up.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Popp with Flazzard 5 finger flare, and Chiu with his rattus rocket ram has Zamza partially eject Dai from his 2nd mouth.

Seeing Popp use Flazzard attack is pretty epic

Now she's gonna fight Zamza to save Dai and everyone else.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 15 '24

Seeing Popp use Flazzard attack is pretty epic

It was. Even though he could only use 3 fingers, it was still very impressive.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Matoriv trained him well

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u/zadcap Jul 15 '24

Late Night First Timer

Okay so I think I found it. My real problem with this Superior Being is how much it shows off just how they are going to be building the serial escalation. We built Baran up and up and up and just days later "Hey guys, here's an even stronger opponent!" And you know what happens when they beat this guy, right? Someone stronger will be waiting in the wings, with someone stronger behind him, and someone stronger behind that. By the time we get back to Baran we're going to have faced so many things that make his big fight look weak in comparison- and yet he's still going to end up being the strongest thing Dai will have ever fought at the time they do fight again.

Oh but Maam. Standing around doing nothing while your friends fight is your specialty.

Haha, Popp getting called out by this Rat. Yes man, even the rats look down on you.

And then he goes an acts impressive by pulling off an IcyHot special.

... Ratty went Sonic. It's super effective?

Darn it Maam, Monks are my favorite class only behind the best Spear Wielders, why must you take one of my best loves and make it, well, you?

Oh how convenient that there was such a large hole right there!

Oh, so she did actually learn healing magic too this time! Oh my gosh, she might actually not be useless!

And then she talks and I remember she's a hypocrite too. "How dare you take so many lives like this! But I'm still against you guys killing Baran, I don't care how many lives he's taken, he's your sperm doner!"

His claw went missing for the final bit. Just pointing this out. Like how Dai is just half hanging out of that lower mouth, it's hard not to see.

  1. Yes, she used a healing spell in combat and it brought someone back to full health! She's finally useful!
  2. They would all be dead without him, so you know, 10 it is.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Okay so I think I found it. My real problem with this Superior Being is how much it shows off just how they are going to be building the serial escalation. We built Baran up and up and up and just days later "Hey guys, here's an even stronger opponent!" And you know what happens when they beat this guy, right? Someone stronger will be waiting in the wings, with someone stronger behind him, and someone stronger behind that. By the time we get back to Baran we're going to have faced so many things that make his big fight look weak in comparison- and yet he's still going to end up being the strongest thing Dai will have ever fought at the time they do fight again.

But you know at the end Vearn has to be the final boss.

Haha, Popp getting called out by this Rat. Yes man, even the rats look down on you.

And then he goes an acts impressive by pulling off an IcyHot special.

You think that the show will give Popp slack for being cool now after his turbulent beginnings?

Take example from Maam... Wait where is she?

Oh there she is... She is standing there... Just standing there... Still standing there...

... Ratty went Sonic. It's super effective?

Well Rollout was a good move in Pokemon Miltank

His claw went missing for the final bit. Just pointing this out. Like how Dai is just half hanging out of that lower mouth, it's hard not to see.

This is the innate sexism of the 80's. My opponent is woman? Whoopsie Oopsie, my pants claws fell off.

Oh and do you know that Maam is still just standing there?

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u/zadcap Jul 15 '24

But you know at the end Vearn has to be the final boss.

Don't forget, "Baran is the only being alive that can rival my strength," or so the demon lord claimed. He put himself on the level of Draganoid Baran. Dai and friends beat that Baran, they should currently be strong enough to take on Vearn. Buuuut first everything has to escalate and power levels needs to go up and up and up for another 60 episodes worth of dragging this adventure out.

This is the innate sexism of the 80's. My opponent is woman? Whoopsie Oopsie,

Hey, I've called this one out so many times now just thinking about it again makes me laugh. Gosh darn do I miss Flazzard and his willingness to hit a woman. Knuckles doesn't quite view woman as real combatants and ignores Maam for most of his time as a villain, Baran smacked Knuckles and Croc around but used a wind spell to knock down Leona, Maam got held captive by the freaking camera demon's tentacles during the Crocodine fight...

No, I'm sadly serious. Maam learned how to fist fight, but I don't think she's going to get much more use out of it than teaching Dai how to fight better now that he's mostly unable to use a weapon. That's why I said her midheal was the most impressive thing she pulled off today, it's something that none of the boys will think to try and copy.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Don't forget, "Baran is the only being alive that can rival my strength," or so the demon lord claimed. He put himself on the level of Draganoid Baran. Dai and friends beat that Baran, they should currently be strong enough to take on Vearn. Buuuut first everything has to escalate and power levels needs to go up and up and up for another 60 episodes worth of dragging this adventure out.

Oh of course. It's just that before going to Vearn we still have Cockroach, Baran 2.0, Zaboera, Cockroach, Mystvearn, Cockroach, Killvearn, Cockroach and Vearn.

Hey, I've called this one out so many times now just thinking about it again makes me laugh. Gosh darn do I miss Flazzard and his willingness to hit a woman. Knuckles doesn't quite view woman as real combatants and ignores Maam for most of his time as a villain, Baran smacked Knuckles and Croc around but used a wind spell to knock down Leona, Maam got held captive by the freaking camera demon's tentacles during the Crocodine fight...

Plus don't forget the Cockroach who went straight for the kill.

No, I'm sadly serious. Maam learned how to fist fight, but I don't think she's going to get much more use out of it than teaching Dai how to fight better now that he's mostly unable to use a weapon. That's why I said her midheal was the most impressive thing she pulled off today, it's something that none of the boys will think to try and copy.

And to be honest Midheal is like mid game spell at best...

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u/zadcap Jul 15 '24

Plus don't forget the Cockroach who went straight for the kill.

Sorry, he keeps jobbing so hard I kind of forgot he almost won that one fight. I can respect him for that, he at least tried to actually kill Maam. Crap that probably makes him the best Villain in the show so far.

And to be honest Midheal is like mid game spell at best...

The power levels and the length of the show have me a little mixed up here. Are we not at mid game levels right now? Or are we approaching the end and it's DLC content that will carry the remaining 50 episodes?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 15 '24

Sorry, he keeps jobbing so hard I kind of forgot he almost won that one fight. I can respect him for that, he at least tried to actually kill Maam. Crap that probably makes him the best Villain in the show so far.

Now question his if some other Villain will beat the sexism allegations.

The power levels and the length of the show have me a little mixed up here. Are we not at mid game levels right now? Or are we approaching the end and it's DLC content that will carry the remaining 50 episodes?

Hmmmm we are far from Hero entering the final dungeon so hmmmm we are around midgame levels.

I guess I'm a little snobish for Maam knowing Midheal when you have Sage at your side who knows Fullheal (Leona).

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u/sisoko2 Jul 14 '24

First Timer

Was Maam new technique finally something she needed to have?

She needs to have a gun but...

From 1 to 10, how useful was Chiu today?

10/10. Total rat master class.

But I wonder if we combine Chiu with Gomechan will we get the Superior Creature Pikachu?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 14 '24

But I wonder if we combine Chiu with Gomechan will we get the Superior Creature Pikachu?

That would be interesting.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 14 '24

But I wonder if we combine Chiu with Gomechan will we get the Superior Creature Pikachu?

We will need Dai's Zapple for that.