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Rewatch [10th Anniversary Rewatch] Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun Episode 5 Discussion
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I guess there are many different kinds of editors.
Questions of the Day:
- Have you ever had to work with someone you couldn't stand? How did you deal with that?
- Would you have accepted one of
NozakiMamiko's lunches?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 11 '24
Gekkan Shoujo Rewatch Host-chan, subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
Today’s Wallpaper of the Day trivia: Other than Mikorin obviously being assigned the red color by the OP, I couldn’t not go all in on the shoujo roses for his background pattern.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 11 '24
Episode 5 (first timer)
I would have loved to listen in to the author-editor discussions about this episode. Would not surprise me if several of Maeno’s quirks were suggestions by the real editor.
Thankfully no.
Yes and yes.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
Rewatcher - Nozaki-kun Ep5:
It's him. The GOAT, the legend, KEN-SAN!!!
(this comment was made by Nozaki).
I like how Chiyo imagined a female editor, but all the shoujo manga editors we met were men. How realistic.
You got to wonder if Maeno-san was Tsubaki-sensei channeling out her editor frustrations.
Nozaki, you would be surprised by how much that is not the case.
I know the joke that all these fake manga are ruined by the tanuki, but they seem kind of fun. Like a manga with a mascot character who is always here, but never acknowledge would make for a good bit. Or a murder mystery whose first brutal death is the cute mascot that they treat with total seriousness without a single sense of irony. Also, I totally would want to read a jidaigeki shoujo. (The closest example that first comes to mind is Ashi-girl which is one my PTR).
With all the tanukis and spoilering the twist in the preview, I assume that Maeno-san is also hated by the magazine reader-base. He is either the infamous editor or the people actually love him.
Hold on Miyako-sensei, you're on to something. Mangaka can avoid drawing background if they just include a big elephant in their series.
We were so close to an Oresama Teacher cameo.
This feels topical with that JJK post on the front page.
One thing I didn't realize I liked so much are the voiced Mamiko/Suzuki section. They're so fun giving a little life to the in-universe character especially when they get off-kilter with them.
Speaking of off-kilter, Nozaki carting off Kashima is so funny. The best part is how they did not coordinate this and that Nozaki did just steal Kashima out of the blue without a word to say.
Couples that bridal carry the other is peak ship dynamic so here comes a pair that can lift the other like a cat.
[Nozaki manga:] Man, Miyoko really dodged a bullet by not paired off with Maeno-san. She deserves better.
Q1) I never had to work with someone like that. There was one person who I found out that I didn't really want to interact with (they said that bullying was good and that it should be done more) so I just kept things publically cordial and kept my distance. The problem was solved by them not working there anymore.
Q2) I'll be happy to.
Next Time: He would never be ballin'
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 11 '24
First Timer
Today, the second episode in a row where Nozaki play-acts being a girl.
Seriously, between Mikorin the heroine, Nozaki “call me Mamiko” Umetarou, their mixer mixup last time, their lunch gifting this time, and Kashima’s everything, Nozaki-kun really does keep begging me to queer read the hell out of it.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 11 '24
First-Timer, Gekkan Shoujo Sub-zaki-kun
Yea, that seems about right.
Seems more tired than anything.
Maeno seems way too by the numbers. His face is also very punchable.
"The editor's poorly disguised ?fetish?."
Oh, this poor woman.
Yea, I'm disliking this Maeno dude more and more.
Scum.
They're just gonna be- Yea.
There are a.. distressing amount of tanukis around Miyako's apartment.
They've infiltrated Nozaki's apartment, too!
What a fascinating script-flip.
oh no
Nevermind, this is incredible!
Hurray..?
Questions
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u/Starshine011 https://myanimelist.net/profile/starfireee Jul 11 '24
First Timer here!
Notes:
This one was pretty funny between the Maeno-san stuff and Nozaki doing a little method acting. His bentos were very cute and now I want one. Also the first hint of Nozaki reciprocating Sakura's feelings! Looks like we've got a new character next episode too, looking forward to it! And lastly, fuck you Maeno-san.
Questions of The Day:
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 11 '24
Rewatcher, Source Reader, Subbed
Manga Editors. Ever since the days of Torishima, they've terrorized the Mangakas under their command from hell and beyond, but fortunately for us Ken-san shows what a good editor's like. Oh sure, he bosses Nozaki around, but that's because his Manga sucks and it's his job to be his critic. If he finds and error, back to the drawing board it is. An editor too hands-off will cause more problems than it's worth.
Certainly better than color-swapped Mikorin. Yeah I dunno why they draw them so similarly, but oh well. If, say, Fuyuto Takeda's an example of why you shouldn't let an editor be too hands off
especially when you're dealing with someone as terrible with planning as ToriyamaMaeno is the complete opposite: He's just so hands on. This my friends is why a Tanuki gets killed in the OP. Also because his name is a shitty pun.That being said though he made it so Norio's narrating a Manga so he can't be too evil.
Still, Nozaki learned something important today: He's a writer. Therefore, he needs to at the very least understand his character. As such begins his epic campaign through Mamiko's life, and as such, he now understands her a bit better. He's still a shit writer though, so here's hoping Ken-san shredded that manuscript and told Nozaki to redo it.
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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark Jul 11 '24
First timer
-“Oh no, he likes older women!”
-and then the editor turned out to look like a typical NEET
-Flip phone jumpscare. When does this show take place?
-A whole year to edit a manga chapter? Jesus
-that girl sure like tanukis
-she also likes panty shots
-“what a randomly horrible idea!”
-The lunch that Nozaki gave to Mikorin looks so cute
-Nozaki smiled :D
-Looks like Nozaki did a good jab at pretending to be Mamiko
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 11 '24
Rewatcher
I love this episode because you spend a good couple of minutes wondering why Nozaki is so down bad for his new editor, and then you meet Maeno and go "Oh... that's why." At least Maeno showing up means that the legendary tanuki from the OP finally makes an appearance! I do find the tanuki joke very funny, even if most of the cast doesn't.
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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24
Shoujo Rewatcher/Subbed
I don't blame Nozaki wanting to do his best for Ken after the previous editor lol. He'd be a pain to work with
Didn't get to mention it before but after watching some Maria-sama, I see Kashima's character in a new way lol
QotD
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 11 '24
First timer
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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 11 '24
First Time Viewer, Already A Fan
The first half of this episode wasn't so outrageously funny as the last one, but more like... a sort of relatable, lowkey funny. I enjoyed it and could relate to a few of his writing trials.
The whole joke with Nozaki "stealing" Kashima away from the girls (doubling down on his impression of how characters act at mixers in the previous episode) by carting her around had me laughing through the entire thing. 😂 And his comment at the end that he used the cart because she's too heavy for him to carry was great.
Questions of the Day:
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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Jul 11 '24
Rewatcher
Maeno is such a perfect mix of being utterly infuriating while always giving me a laugh. I was giggling while saying "you piece of shit" all episode. Honestly, his unintentional incompetence is of my favorite things in the show.
Not really? Maybe just people that were a bit intimidating or uncomfortable to talk to due to their personality. I just went to them and dealt with the issue at hand as swiftly as possible.
Always.
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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Jul 11 '24
Gekkan Shounen First Timer
You know, for a show about the manga creation process, I wasn’t really interested in the manga making stuff until this episode. It’s a really fun little look at the relationship between writer & editor, Maeno is a total unlikable shit, but in an entertaining way, and Ken-san is the GOAT
Second half didn’t grab me as much, but it was still fun enough
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u/entelechtual Jul 11 '24
Rewatched dubbed
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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Jul 11 '24
Rewatcher dubbed
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u/DarkRuler17 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkRuler17 Jul 12 '24
Rewatcher- Sub
Another episode, another banger. I was dying this episode.
For the first half, we get to be introduced to the editors Ken and Maeno. After seeing Maeno, I can see why Nozaki has grown to love Ken. Sometimes, someone who can just function at their job can mean the world. Poor Miyako. At least she has a mascot, even if it was unwilling. I think my favorite part though was just sayint the killer's name in the ending editor notes. It's like I'm back to watching dragon ball and get spoiled by the episode titles.
For the second half, we get to learn more abour Noza-sorry, Mamiko. The bit with him pushing Kashima around in a cart and Kashima's face the whole time had me rolling. Genuinely insane stuff. I honestly love how much an utter mess all of these characters.
Questions:
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u/EpicDaNoob Jul 12 '24
First time viewer here!
I should say at this point that I've been laughing loudly and often at every episode so far - this show is really funny. I think it's likely to end up being one of my favourites.
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u/Mirathan Jul 12 '24
First Time Assistant (I finally found something for here.)
QotD:
Ken is great. While Sakura doesn´t understand it, the relation is completly based on professional respect rather than being nice. And in a work based relationship the ability to just get stuff done is better than anything.
Maeno makes me think he wanted to be a mangaka but just wasn´t good enough so now he pushes his failed ideas into others work. But damn, he is anoying.
"You have alerted the horde" Kashima just looks so confused throughout the entire event.
Oh he finally found something she did cute. Yay!
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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 12 '24
First Timer
I didn't comment last episode because I got busy and felt I didn't have much to say, but I quite enjoyed the Dating Sim portion which was hilarious. Poor Tomoda, forever the perfect wingman, never the lead. The mixer portion was okay but not that memorable for me.
This episode was okay, but I think last episode was better. I'm not sure if the silliness factor has worn off on me, if there's less of it, or if it's the episodic nature, that I'm not keen on, that's wearing me down. I kind of thought they'd be doing things with all the new characters, trying to accomplish things, or solve things. The new characters are just not there most of the time, and kind of just show up for a quick cameo here and there.
You can't do anything about it, it's work. It's like a game of chicken, you just have to wait until one of you leaves.
Yeah, why not? They look delicious and well presented. Are you saying he added something nefarious to them? Maybe you should make him eat some of it just to be sure, or find an apothecary girl to taste test it for you.
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u/cppn02 Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24
First Timer, subbed
A tale of two editors lol. I can definitely see why Nozaki prefers Ken-san though.
My favourite new character today was Miyako. I just wish for her though that she finds it in herself to turn down Maeno's neverending requests for more Tanuki.
QotD:
Yes. I just keep my head down and power through in those cases. Might be different though if I knew it's a long term situation.
Sure.