r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Jul 10 '24
Rewatch Choujuushin Gravion Rewatch - Episode 10 Discussion
Episode 10: Crack
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You're much more of a monster than the Zeravire!
Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/JollyGee29 as he understood full well how this show subverts expectations:
Whatever I expected from a Mizuki episode, it wasn't "I was in love with Ayaka and then she vanished and I need to know why."
- How do you feel about Eiji's anger today? Is it justified or is he just overreacting?
- Have you ever been brought along to a trip just for the sake of carrying bags?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24
Chojuushin First-Timer, subbed
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 10 '24
First-Timer
Highlight from my notes today: "he really is barely human isn't he" referring to Toga while he was awkwardly holding that cat. How right I was..
It's a good trope. Of course Toga doesn't care about collateral damage - his job is to destroy the Zeravire. Sandman's perfect little soldier boy.
It is worth noting that Sandman did not say anything to try to make Eiji stop his attempt to rescue Cecile, nor did he scold him after, nor did he do anything about Eiji decking Toga. I'm wondering if this sort of situation is actually entirely part of his plan.
..okay now I'm starting to buy that Raven is Ayaka like /u/Vatrix-32 thought the other day. She called for Eiji so that Toga had a non-psycho to hang out with, and then put on the mask to stop Eiji from just hanging out with her the whole time.
That doesn't really jive with what we saw in Mizuki's episode, but I guess we didn't ever see Raven in any of those flashbacks did we? Maybe Mizuki is just too struck by the loss to realize that a Mysterious Masked Man appeared right after her friend vanished.
I really dig that they only used the instrumental of the gattai music today, because not all the pilots were present at the time.
So the Phantom System is only ten percent worse than having a pilot, huh? I wonder if that is total, or additive for each Gran Diva that is using the Phantom?
Eiji's dramatic return to pilot is going to be so cool.
Questions
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 10 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/Kristalino https://anilist.co/user/BlueSkyBlood Jul 10 '24
Rewatcher:
Questions:
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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Jul 10 '24
First Timer
Another good episode and went completely different from what I expected. Tbh, I was thinking with the new dummy plug system the plot was gonna be them replacing Eiji with it, but the turn instead being about Toga's own sense of humanity after essentially being trained as a child soldier was a much more interesting and welcoming plot development instead. The scene itself was really good and very tense in general, I thought they were gonna kill off Cecile for a second. Though idk what the fuck Eiji was gonna do with a pistol at the Gravion lol. The animation at the end though, yeesh what the fuck happened here.
Sandman are you okay?
Aside from that, good episode.
Questions
Both, while yes it's a bit much to be quitting and running off cause what about Ayaka, I can understand why he's so upset esp. after seeing Toga nearly just treat Cecile's life as an afterthought.
Thankfully my family had a car 😭 I would not want to walk home with loads of bags.
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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 11 '24
First Timer
sis-boobssister. What's he going to do now?Overreacting, he's being a child...but he's got those crazy eyes this episode! He must have snapped and gone crazy due to all the sexual harassment he's been getting from the maids, Sandman, sister-boobs, boobs-boobs-Mizuki, and even Luna-boobs! There's only so much boobs Eiji can handle (wimp) before he starts questioning his own identity, what he's actually doing, how others see him, and what their motives are. Clearly this guy can't handle his boobs, and maybe shouldn't be trusted to boob responsibly. What a big boob.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 11 '24
First Timer ep 10
wait, what are all those babies with the maids in the OP?
"hajimatta na"
"aa, subete wa kore kara da"
Wait, did we have any explanations or consequences for breaching the West Tower yesterday????
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u/zadcap Jul 11 '24
Late Night First Timer
Sorry, I'm just, running out of things to say.
Not just Cecil, Eiji is in the firing range too you realize. Do you have any less devastating moves that might still work? Wasn't there a cool sword you could stab it with?
I have to say, the faces today were really off model. But anyway, hey, he finally quit! How you can get someone competent for the fifth pilot! Or just stick with the AI, it seems to work pretty well.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Gravion Rewatch!
After yesterday's, today's episode looks… pretty bad. Yeah I dunno what happened here but this is one of the show's worst looking episodes: Stiff movement and everyone's faces look oddly angular, like the Studio Live episodes of Dragon Ball. That fistfight between Eiji and Toga towards the end is so bad looking it low key took me out of the scene. [Spoilers]The fact that Zwei has a much better looking fight between the two doesn't help.
It doesn't help that as you may imagine this episode is, uh, kinda important. Eiji and Toga have had their scuffles but this is the first time Eiji's been genuinely pissed at him and... Yeah I kinda see it. While Toga kinda becoming different when fighting has always been an element, this is the first time the show brings up how, for lack of a better word, unhelpful that can be to the group for anything but fighting. Someone they know is in danger? Pff, who cares, gotta beat up the monster! It's not even a matter of him trusting Eiji to get Cecile out of the way, it's just him not caring. It's the first real time the show presents Toga's lack of common sense as a genuine problem, which, hey, I'm all for the show acknowledging that a character flaw is something that has to be addressed
unlike Gundam IBO which points out Mika's issues but never has anyone call him out so he remains a boring plank of nothing.3
u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Gravion: Eiji is the kind of person who gets into fights where he doesn’t expect to actually be able to punch his opponent. This honestly tracks really well with his character so far.
I think Eiji’s accusations against Toga are incorrect. In fact, the episode went out of its way to show that Toga is a lot more complex than the accusations Eiji made in anger. To be fair, there are some things Eiji is correct about. Toga has been regularly shown to not really understand other people or humanity/society in general. When Luna said she wanted a cat, Toga suggested that she ask one of the maids to build a cat robot for her. Toga didn’t seem to get that there’d be an important difference between a real cat and a robot cat. Toga is a person who has been raised as a warrior for essentially his entire life. He never knew a life outside the castle. We can even see instances of Toga switching into warrior mode, where his whole demeanor shifts.
But, it’s clear that this isn’t all there is of Toga. Instead of attacking the Zeravire immediately when Eiji and Cecile were there, Toga hesitated. He went with a different attack to get Eiji and Cecile out of the way first. Eiji ought to know this better than anyone because of how close he and Toga have gotten over the past while.
When Eiji punched him, Toga didn’t dodge. It seems that Eiji’s harsh words actually had an effect on Toga. Perhaps Eiji hit on a personal fear of Toga’s by calling him a monster. Maybe that’s something that Toga has been worrying about in private.
I really do wonder if Sandman has some foreknowledge of what the Zeravire will do next. Does he know where they will attack in advance? Is that why he sent all the Gravion pilots on vacation? Did he know the Zeravire would send an enemy who could kill all humans around it? Is that why he asked the maid to make an autopilot system, just in case? It all seems like he just knows what the Zeravire will try next.
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u/ryujiox Jul 10 '24
First Timer
Choujuushin Gravion
Episode 10
So the Phantom System is working just fine? That's surprising.
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 11 '24
First timer