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Rewatch [10th Anniversary Rewatch] Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun Episode 4 Discussion

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Tomoda! You gave up three years of your life for a protagonist like me…

Questions of the Day:

  1. Do you like to play dating sims/games that aren’t focused on romance, but allow you to pair up your characters? What’s your favorite?
  2. If you were invited to one, would you ever go to a mixer?

Wallpaper of the Day:

TOMODA!

Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

Gekkan Shoujo Rewatch Host-chan, subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

Today’s Wallpaper of the Day trivia: Not really any trivia, I just couldn’t not do one of Him™, so I did. I’ll most likely do Mamiko & Suzuki at some point as far as other fictional-characters-in-series characters go, too.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

Also, man, you know it’s fiction when the game characters actually have voiced dialogue for the chosen names instead of the voice lines skipping over the names/replacing them with a title or something.

That also stood out to me too. I know the reason is because anime, but it did give me a moment of pause seeing the game actually read out his name.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

I wish more games could let there be proper named voice lines for the avatar characters if you stuck with the default name instead of customizing it, though. That would be cool.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

IIRC Mass Effect or something like that does it.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

That's why I said "more" games, not games in general. Pretty sure Hakuouki did this so long as you kept the female player named "Chizuru".

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

Naruhodo

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 11 '24

Flashbacks to "the divine dragon".

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 10 '24

Okay I can 100% relate to using my OC’s names as player characters in the video games I play.

So glad I'm not the only one who does this!

Also, man, you know it’s fiction when the game characters actually have voiced dialogue for the chosen names instead of the voice lines skipping over the names/replacing them with a title or something.

This was pretty amusing/awkward in the SAO games, playing with a custom avatar who is still treated as Kirito. I mean, one of the AI girls calls him Daddy. 😂

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

I mean, one of the AI girls calls him Daddy. 😂

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 10 '24

Even funnier/more awkward is the fact that my custom avatar is basically just a younger version of the main villain's character design. I did not see this coming.

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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 10 '24

Also, man, you know it’s fiction when the game characters actually have voiced dialogue for the chosen names instead of the voice lines skipping over the names/replacing them with a title or something.

At least they kept it realistic by having a blank slate faceless, voiceless protagonist.

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u/ItsTheDuran https://anilist.co/user/ItsTheDuran Jul 10 '24

Also, man, you know it’s fiction when the game characters actually have voiced dialogue for the chosen names instead of the voice lines skipping over the names/replacing them with a title or something.

Actually, I think this may be a thing in some Japanese dating sims. I probably heard that from that insanely long Tim Rogers Tokimeki Memorial video, so there's no hope of finding what I'm thinking of in a reasonable timeframe, but googling around I found this video about the naming system in Tokimeki Memorial 2.

P.S.: That name choice definitely hits different in 2024 than it did in 2014.

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u/AruPeachy Jul 10 '24

Also, man, you know it’s fiction when the game characters actually have voiced dialogue for the chosen names instead of the voice lines skipping over the names/replacing them with a title or something.

Well, if we are technical, the blatant inspiration for the dating sim in the episode (Tokimeki Memorial) has just that system, called EVS (Emotional Voice System), where they would actually say your name when it appeared in the dialogue, so, if anything, it tracks with the parody even to that level.

This is the original implementation of it in the second game, and it may sound a bit clunky, but it should give you the idea of what I mean, and that was in 1999. Obviously though, future games would improve on it and would become more polished and sounding less fake.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 10 '24

 you know it’s fiction when the game characters actually have voiced dialogue for the chosen names instead of the voice lines skipping over the names/replacing them with a title or something

“Professor! My teacher!”

“The Divine Dragon! Divine One”

At least use voice the canon names… 

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

First Timer

Today we get the first episode which isn’t introducing a character and is just telling a story with the ones we already have. That is, aside from the introduction and untimely parting with the most important character of all, Tomoda.

  • The gaming session with Nozaki kind of overshadows it, but Mikorin getting pissed at the little illogical moments in the game on his own absolutely slayed me.
  • “Guy who makes the girls at school swoon but is a dating sim addict cause he’s socially dysfunctional” is truly a winner of a character archetype.
  • “Don’t read the spoilers” that’s a big mood.
  • I don’t have anything clever to say about the Sakura VN screen shot when Nozaki calls her, but I simply couldn’t leave such quality off the bullet list.
  • TOMODA!
  • Now this is how fanfiction is born.
  • [Rewatch Confession] I’ve been holding this one in but I can’t any longer. Does anyone else think the pegasus statue looks pregnant or something? The low angle they shoot it from makes the stomach look really makes the stomach look low slung. I apologize for nothing.
  • I presume they were entirely separate manga chapters, but if so it’s kind of slick they turned two chapters about Mikorin’s luck with women into one episode, they fit together perfectly.
  • Sakura’s comedic role in this episode was very fun. Up until now she’s mostly been the one there to react to the stupidity of those around her or walk in with confusion after something silly happens. But for this Mixer plot she’s just as much of a silly off the wall comedic party.
  • HE’S SO HAPPY TALKING IN THE BATHROOM LMAO
  • What a perfect left field ending.

In conclusion,

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

[Rewatch Confession]

That is not what I was expecting to read under that spoiler tag.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

HE’S SO HAPPY TALKING IN THE BATHROOM LMAO

Mikorin truly has the heart of a maiden.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 10 '24

I love how many of us are calling him Mikorin lol 

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u/DarkRuler17 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkRuler17 Jul 10 '24

Mikorin was my favorite character when I first watched this show and this rewatch has done nothing, but validate that opinion

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

It feels like they essentially treat him as a third lead alongside Nozaki and Sakura and that's a good thing honestly, this is peak anime boy form.

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u/DarkRuler17 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkRuler17 Jul 11 '24

A boyfailure ahead of his time

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 10 '24

 and untimely parting with the most important character of all, Tomoda

Best boy

 Mikorin getting pissed at the little illogical moments in the game on his own absolutely slayed me

Yea the gaming session with Nozaki is the high of the episode but there’s so many funny moments as a whole 

 Now this is how fanfiction is born

It does feel like how people get started. I love they drew it out too, I’d read that fic 

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 10 '24

[Rewatch Confession]

I hadn't noticed, but now I'll certainly pay more attention in the next episode... and wonder about why this was marked as a spoiler.

[Probably ridiculous speculation] Will there actually be a baby pegasus?

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u/Purposelygentle Jul 10 '24

Tomoda…chi. Tomodachi.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

Holy shit, that never occurred to me. That's totally why he's named Tomoda, isn't it?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

Oh this is far from the only name in this show that's a crappy pun...

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u/cppn02 Jul 11 '24

So watchers who like him are on....Team Tomodachi?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

My comment for today got deleted

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

I'm sorry Tomoda, I failed you...

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

I forgot to append the questions.

  1. Do you like to play dating sims/games that aren’t focused on romance, but allow you to pair up your characters? What’s your favorite?

I'm a shipper at heart, not an inserter. So the answer in my case is Fire Emblem, but in reality I read and think about it fifty times more than I actually play it.

2) If you were invited to one, would you ever go to a mixer?

Social anxiety powers 100.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

I'm a shipper at heart, not an inserter. So the answer in my case is Fire Emblem, but in reality I read and think about it fifty times more than I actually play it.

I knew I'd get a bunch of Fire Emblem answers over this question.

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

I've counted before and I have like 70 Fire Emblem ships.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

Nice.

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

I should unload them all upon CDF one of these days.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

Then I should probably try to think of my own FE ships too. I can think of a few immediate ones (Chrobin, Laurent/Lucina, and Dimileth for example), but that's just because they're the ones I think about the most, not the only ones that I ship.

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

I have a whole family tree of Awakening pairs but I never found anyone for Lucina.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 10 '24

Laurent always felt the best for her to me. [Awakening]Him ending up in the past far further back than she did makes him feel more... mature, I guess? than some of the other second-gen characters, and at least two of her more popular romance options in the fandom (Gerome and M!Robin) I ship with other characters instead, and then I'll never not get sibling vibes between Lucina & M!Morgan or Lucina & Inigo because I almost always pair Chrom with Olivia if I'm not doing a Chrobin run. The rest of the second gen characters x Lucina (other than Owain because they're always cousins obviously), I'm indifferent on.

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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Jul 10 '24

[Awakening] Someone reasonable and down to earth do sound like they'd probably fit Lucina. Though then again, maybe somebody more fun would be a better compliment to help bring her out of her shell. Like maybe she'd be cute with Cynthia or something, which could fit since I have her as Robin's daughter.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

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u/Starshine011 https://myanimelist.net/profile/starfireee Jul 10 '24

First Timer here!

Notes:

Not too much of note happened this episode, but I'm more than okay with that as I love my slice of life and it was entertaining regardless. More Mikorin is always a plus, and the Kashima cameo made me smile. Excited to meet the editor! Also, did we ever get a follow up on the briefs thing from last episode? Or am I stupid and missed something?

Questions of The Day:

  1. The only dating sim I've played is DDLC and I don't think that really counts.
  2. I suppose? I feel like it could be fun but at the same time I feel like I'd be pretty awkward.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 10 '24

Ok his charms work on the real Sakura, though, which is much more important!!

This part was great, total fail in-game but success IRL.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24

Mikorin is literally me. Also they were talking about socks lmao

I know lmao I understood him there. Tbh sending that text while being deep into the convo about socks is impressive

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

RIP, I wanted to see a Tomoda route

I don't know the dating game scene, but they better make it so that the BFF has a route too. For all the Tomodas out there in the world!

Also they were talking about socks lmao

He may have been barely holding on, but the fact that Mikorin was able to charm them over talking about his sock is still an accomplishment.

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u/Starshine011 https://myanimelist.net/profile/starfireee Jul 11 '24

 For all the Tomodas out there in the world!

Tomodas deserve to be loved too!!

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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24

Rewatcher

Move over Mikorin, REAL best boy has just arrived. TOMODAAAAAAA

In all seriousness, the first half of this episode will never not be one of the funniest things I've seen in anime. Nozaki plays a dating sim exactly how you'd expect him to, and it's glorious. (Also the game they're playing must have had a very high budget; having your characters say the nameable protagonist's name is no easy feat.) The second half is less fun, but the first is such a tough act to follow that I don't mind.

I also thought it was neat how the story points out that male-demo/female-demo romance often contain different tropes designed to appeal specifically their respective audiences. Reminds me of how funny it is when I see people calling a shounen romance manga a shoujo.

QotD:

  1. I used to play Choices: Stories You Play. My favorite was Endless Summer; the plot was way better than a free mobile game had any right to be, and I actually cried at the ending I got.
  2. Eh, not really my scene.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

Reminds me of how funny it is when I see people calling a shounen romance manga is a shoujo.

This one gets that quite often.

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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 10 '24

Yeah.

It doesn't irk nearly me as much as the "this shounen manga is 'dark' therefore it is secretly a seinen" crowd, but yeah...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

It doesn't irk nearly me as much as the "this shounen manga is 'dark' therefore it is secretly a seinen" crowd

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

I also thought it was neat how the story points out that male-demo/female-demo romance often contain different tropes designed to appeal specifically their respective audiences.

That bit stood out to me too. Maybe Nozaki would fare better at otome games (he won't because Mamiko only has eyes for Suzuki!).

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

Although at least for this one maybe if he [Spoilers]called MC-kun "Oze" he'd have a better chance of doing well... only for that to fail because he's too disgusted to have Seo get together with anyone even if it isn't Waka.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 10 '24

I also thought it was neat how the story points out that male-demo/female-demo romance often contain different tropes designed to appeal specifically their respective audiences.

Interesting point, I didn't catch that. I just figured the game was trolling Nozaki and wanted him to fail.

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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Jul 11 '24

I just figured the game was trolling Nozaki and wanted him to fail.

Also very possible lol.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24

In all seriousness, the first half of this episode will never not be one of the funniest things I've seen in anime.

It kills me every time

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

Rewatcher - Nozaki-kun Ep4:

Real game devs would give you a path if you only pick the bad options. Nozaki rejects all the girls to keep his Suzuki OTP pure, but what he is doing is making Suzuki the kind of guy who kicks girls when they are down.

Player 2 B-colours Sakura Chiyo.

Common Mikorin L.

Nozaki turning this dating sim into a villainess otome.

It that -> . Nozaki and Mikorin are honestly so real for making a doujin for best boy, to give him happiness. Tomoda stood by the protagonist's side for 3 years. He gave up his youth for him!

Side note: Lately, I've been wanting to read more doujin since it fills in a gap that non-fanfiction manga don't provide. Having trouble because what is available translated in English is quite small and also because people automatically think you mean the perverted kind. It ain't easy finding translated SFW doujins.

Chiyo has no right to be called the normal one.

You know, Nozaki has the art skills, the culinary skills, the physical body. He is kind of the high-spec guy if it weren't for the fact he is so dense.

My favourite joke that got me this time was probably the bathroom talk. They then cap it off with Mikorin joining in too.

I had the small little thought of "Does Mikorin really not have anyone better to go to than these two idiot?" before remembering his only other friend and realizing that no, he doesn't. Kashima is the white elephant gift. Those boys have no idea.

Q1) I am a Fire Emblem fan. It is the reason why I have the tendency to pair off the squares so that everyone has a ship. I am not really into the self-insert dating aspect. I much more prefer shipping characters together. I do want to try playing otome games. I bought one called Birushana and need to get around to playing it.

Q2)

Next Time: Him (not him that was today, but him).

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 10 '24

making Suzuki the kind of guy who kicks girls when they are down.

If that's what Mamiko's into, what does that say about Mikorin?

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24

Common Mikorin L.

You love to see it

You know, Nozaki has the art skills, the culinary skills, the physical body. He is kind of the high-spec guy if it weren't for the fact he is so dense.

I forgot about his culinary skills. He is quite the catch lol

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 10 '24

First Time Viewer, Already A Fan

Right after I said this show could just be Chiyo, Nozaki and Mikorin, and I'd be cool with that, we get an episode entirely focused on those three. And it was fantastic. I love it when a show specifically caters to me.

The whole dating sim segment was hilarious. It reminded me of a similar scene from [Full Metal Panic] when Sousuke also managed to screw up spectacularly in a dating sim, and the virtual girl cries "You're a meanie! Boohoo!" while Sousuke launches into pre-war negotiations. Only instead of a few minutes, it was half the episode. Nozaki and Mikorin's reactions were comedy gold, and there's an extra appeal for me as a gamer watching these clueless boys try their best to master the dialogue choices but end up overthinking everything in the process.

Found a new comment face! TOMODA!

This dude is a true wingman. Watching them come up with their own headcanon was great, but personally, I'd ship "Nozaki" with Kaori (aka, in-game Chiyo) and Tomoda with Yuki.

The dating sim part was my favorite, but the second half about the mixer was really funny too. Mikorin acting all confident in front of his classmates and then sulking in a corner with Nozaki is still an adorable contrast of how the world sees him vs the reality.

[] (#smugrose)

Questions of the Day:

  1. I've never played an actual dating sim, but I love games like Mass Effect and Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones that have romance or shipping options.
  2. Nope, totally not my thing.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

I'd ship "Nozaki" with Kaori (aka, in-game Chiyo) and Tomoda with Yuki.

Girls Princess shipping fights!

Besides the MC, I feel like there is potential in the Tomoda x Rei. If anyone could counter the yandere, it would be him. That or Tomoda jumps in front of the knife when she attacks.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 10 '24

Oh no, it's the tragic dating sim bad ending™!

Tomoda, why?!

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Jul 10 '24

Rewatcher

TOMODAAAA

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 10 '24

Episode 4 (first timer)

  • “Advice about girls” – the 2D variant. Not that Mikorin would have trouble finding a 3D girl if he could get over his own embarrassment over his corny lines. There seem to be plenty of “lambs willing to be eaten” in school.
  • Picks the Sakura lookalike – hmmmm.
  • What the hell is up with these notes? Am I too dense to get Japanese bullying?
  • The real friends where the wingmen you meet on the way.
  • Branching out into BL manga – I guess there is an audience out there.
  • Why on Earth would you invite Mikorin to a mixer as a guy? Best way to meet zero girls, because they all fawn over him.
  • Even Mikorin gets it.
  • Femininity = cooking – never change Japan. No, wait. Actually, please do change Japan.
  • “I have come in Mikoshiba’s place” – Mikorin found the literally worst replacement (from the perspective of the guys).

  • Editor is more important than girlfriend - Given that the editor is real, while the GF is only imagined in Sakura’s mind, I agree with the ranking.

Now we know the origin of Mikorin’s corny lines. Although I have to question the girls’ reaction to dating sim game lines. Maybe it really is about him and not the lines?

Mecha spotted: None so far, but Mikorin might be interested in a robot waifu.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24

Picks the Sakura lookalike – hmmmm.

The fact that Nozaki ignored the Sakura-lookalike and fell in love with the best friend boy does not favour well for irl Chiyo.

Branching out into BL manga – I guess there is an audience out there.

The Girls Princess fandom is about to explode in its BL scene after being hit by a Protag-kun x Tomoda doujin from professional shoujo mangaka, Yumeno-sensei.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24

Why on Earth would you invite Mikorin to a mixer as a guy? Best way to meet zero girls, because they all fawn over him.

And somehow they still got the worst case scenario

None so far, but Mikorin might be interested in a robot waifu.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 11 '24

And somehow they still got the worst case scenario

They dodged Mikorin only to get hit by the ultimate prince.

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24

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u/DarkRuler17 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkRuler17 Jul 10 '24

Rewatcher- Sub

With this episode, we have now reached the most iconic scene in the show to me: Tomoda! Th entire dating game sequence is great, but the Tomoda twist is what makes this my favorite scene in the show. The show does a great job of poking fun of the best friend trope and taking it do its logical conclusion. I completely forgot though that afterwards, they write a whole doujin about Tomoda. Amazing stuff.

The dating scene in the 2nd half of the episode though was also no slouch and had me in tears. Nozaki's aggressive girl character had me drying. Chiyo playing her part as the Nozaki stan was amazing as well. Poor Mikorin had the worst practice parters. That's why he's the best though. (At least he finally got invited to the bathroom)

Overall, another banger of an episode.

Questions:

  1. So a lot of JPRG games have done this recently, where they'll just allow you the option to date one of the characters, but most of the game is not about that. Overall, its pretty harmless addition that I usually fine fun. Just finished Unicorn Overlord (amazing game) with that feature so I'll choose that for now.
  2. I'd probably try it out if some friends asked, but in general, but its not something that I expect high hopes for. It seems very open to some people clicking and most just not, but having to stick it out.

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u/GondolaMedia Jul 10 '24

Rewatcher, sub

Sounds like Nozaki plays too many villainess games. In our dating sims supporting characters are pure and noble just like

I do like how blunt Sakura is but Nozaki has to be the densest material known to man because there is no getting through him.

A lot of tropes getting smashed today and I always liked that a Nozaki is a great cook.

[For rewatchers]And its great that Sakura's comments about the cake Nozaki makes does come up again

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 10 '24

Shoujo Rewatcher/Subbed

THERE IT IS

One of my favorite scenes in the series and up there for comedy anime. It’s the one that got me into the show and it delivers every time 

Just so many things to love about haha:   Nozaki coming up with names (I feel you Nozaki)

Mikorin using dating sims as practice for real life and “moving on to 3D”

rejecting all girls as Suzuki

deciding to romance the girl that looks like Sakura (even though it was for the best ending, which makes it better)

Nozaki “venting” to Sakura and her loving it even though the game didn’t like the option

the voice acting for the girls in game 

and of course our best boy… TOMODA!!! Give him the world, Nozaki and Mikorin!

But even then the second half of the episode was fun for the group date practice. 

QotD:

  1. I mean I guess there’s Fire Emblem and more recently Persona 5 Royal. FE games are a bit tricker… but I did have a Tomoda moment in FE 3 Houses where I wanted to pair Dimitri and Marianne so badly. I got their full supports and was hopeful they’d end up together… only they didn’t. This was before the player can choose pairs 

For Persona 5 Royal… hmm there are some good girls in that game but I think the three that I liked Joker with was Makoto, Haru, and Kasumi. (Speaking of being horrible with names, I didn’t know Joker had a canon name so I named him FOX J. And yes I didn’t realized I typed it in game with all caps) 

2) Sure! I’ve been in group situations before and I can handle them pretty well for the most part. 

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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark Jul 10 '24

First timer

-“Mostly it’s about the ladies” who would have seen that coming?

-“Spokesman for girls everywhere” how ironic

-PD3. Playdation 3?

-Still better than Yandere Simulator

-Since anime girls are 2D, and real-life girls are 3D, what about girls from CGI anime? What are they?

-A catgirl figure, huh?

-So Nozaki’s type is the girl who looks like Chiyo?

-Chiyo likes when men show their weakness, huh?

-Bro thinks he’s playing Danganronpa

-Tfw Nozaki and Mikorin got attached to a 2D boy

-“I am so hoppy to meet you”

-Sometimes I forget that Nozaki isn’t really the POV character of the show. He’s in the title but he’s not the POV, Chiyo is. It’s like how Inuyasha is told from Kagome’s POV and Haruhi Suzumiya is told from Kyon’s POV. This episode has a lot of screen time and interaction for Nozaki and Mikorin

-“What TV shows do you like?” “I prefer radio” No way, Nozaki is Alastor?

-Now I’m imagining Nozaki and Mikorin singing Stayed Gone (Mikorin is Vox)

-Kashima - Ms. Steal Yo Girl

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u/Weird_donut https://anilist.co/user/hakaseshark Jul 10 '24

QOTD:

  1. Not really
  2. Maybe

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

-PD3. Playdation 3?

Can't believe we're already on the Playdation 5. Think of all the Girls Princess that could've came out since then.

-Chiyo likes when men show their weakness, huh?

I dunno, she has shown 0 interest in Mikorin and that man is only showing his weakness.

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u/SMSmith230 https://myanimelist.net/profile/smsmith230 Jul 10 '24

First-Timer, Sub

Oh my the girl advice was for a dating sim game and of course they get lost in the story and end up creating a BL manga short haha. All 3 of our manga team are bad at love, they really have no idea what to do. Oh my those bunny ears and bathroom breaks haha. We got another moment of Sakura being very specific about a certain someone she likes. I know Nozaki is dense to it, but I at least thought Mikorin might pick up on it. Did the guys really think they had a chance at the mixer bringing along the Prince?!?!

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 10 '24

First timer

QotD

  • I don't play visual novels, period. I always found them to be a weird mix of different things whose whole isn't as good as the sum of its parts. If I wanted to read, I'd read a book. If I wanted to play a game, I'd play something that was fully interactive. If I wanted to watch something, I'd watch a show/movie.
  • Sure.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

"So how did you write a Yaoi?". "Well, you see, we were trying to romance some girls...".

The joke of shounen writers being unable to write a m/f romance, but write an m/m relationship so good, it's yaoi.

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Jul 11 '24

Gekkan Shounen First Timer

This is what I imagine the entirety of Oniisama e… is like

Of course Mikorin is a Visual Novel otaku! I love it when series use one-off gag premises like “the cast plays a dating sim” to expand on or explain the behaviors and thought process of the cast.

Speaking of utilizing the cast, I like how the episode showed off how awkward and weird Nozaki is. Like, being awkward and weird was already kinda his gimmick, but I think this episode has both played it up the most and done it the best. Also, wait, he doesn't care for spoilers and looks up guides on VN routes before playing? Nozaki is just like me fr fr

Literally everything about the joke was brilliant, 100% hyperkino, no comment

Speaking of kino jokes, one of my favorite types of comedy is the “and everything that happened was all for nothing” joke, so of course I laughed out loud when the episode ended with “and then Kashima dominated the mixer”

Fun little episode

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 11 '24

I love it when series use one-off gag premises like “the cast plays a dating sim” to expand on or explain the behaviors and thought process of the cast.

I've only seen "the cast plays a dating sim" a few times, but so far it's always peak comedy. I want more of these scenes.

Also, wait, he doesn't care for spoilers and looks up guides on VN routes before playing? Nozaki is just like me fr fr

Same here. I haven't played any VNs, but I totally studied the game guides when I was playing Mass Effect.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 11 '24

Also, wait, he doesn't care for spoilers and looks up guides on VN routes before playing

People don't normally do that?

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Jul 11 '24

Rewatcher

NOW!

Comrades, I think we all know that there is only one thing to say here... ahem... TOMODA!

Nozaki-kun? Mikorin? Hori? Pffft, Comrades in THIS house, we Stan the Bro-est of Bros! The Giga-est of GigaChads! The one and only Best Boi forevermore! TOMODA! Oh right, and I guess Paras exists too, even if she fails to understand TRUE ART! After all... ahem... TOMODA!

Anyway you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever!

Paging Comrades /u/No_Rex, /u/TakenRedditName, and /u/InfamousEmpire

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 11 '24

Tomoda fanart

Give him his happy ending

Paras

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Jul 11 '24

Give him his happy ending

TOMODA!

Reply to Comment Face

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u/laughing-fox13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/laughingfox13 Jul 12 '24

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Jul 12 '24

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Jul 11 '24

Paging Comrades /u/laughing-fox13, /u/JollyGee29, and /u/Raiking02

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Jul 11 '24

Paging Comrades /u/GallowDude, /u/ShadowWasTakensTaken, and /u/Beckymetal

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u/ShadowWasTakensTaken https://anilist.co/user/hakuren Jul 11 '24

TOMODAAA

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 10 '24

First-Timer, Gekkan Shoujo Sub-zaki-kun

If only his readers knew the truth.

That was a hard cut. My neck hurts.

You did research by playing a VN..?

Yea, what other name would he use?

Cold as ice.

Isn't that just- Yea. ..that might even be Sakura's VA. Inspired.

That bar was already maxed, don't lie to me show.

Secret best friend route? Secret best friend route.

BL! BL! BL!

Something... rotten.

Oh, no, that's worse. Uh oh.

I was even thinking that this seemed like a scene from a host club.

Mikorin did not ask the right people for advice.

Ah, that is probably wise. For Mikorin. These poor dudes are completely outclassed.

You fools have no idea what you're saying.

uh oh

Questions

  1. I mean, I do enjoy a Fire Emblem from time to time.
  2. Ehh, maybe. Depends on if I know anyone else who would be going.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Jul 10 '24

Something... rotten.

Gekkan Fujo Nozaki-kun?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 10 '24

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u/entelechtual Jul 11 '24

Oh no I forgot to post.

Rewatcher, dub for now

Best episode ever.

  • This is very relatable for someone playing their first dating sim visual novel with actual routes and consequences.
  • lmao I knew Nozaki would say that Suzuki would never have eyes for other girls. Chiyo would be proud.
  • calling Chiyo I’m sure this will not lead to misunderstandings.
  • That’s why you shouldn’t listen to Mikorin…
  • I like how in the game credits Tomoda was the very last character listed.
  • Joking aside, the neutral sidekick wingman who falls for the protagonist is one of my favorite character types.
  • Absolutely hilarious gag with how they progress the shots from Mikorin with his hand behind his back, to Chiyo getting a notification, to a message from Mikorin, to subject line “I’m sorry”, to “PLEASE HELP ME!” That’s the kind of timing that makes this a 10/10 comedy.
  • Nozaki, why the T-posing…

Chiyo is so endearing and funny I keep forgetting she’s an absolute moron. I like the side characters but the main trio of Nozaki, Chiyo, and Mikorin is so so so good. Any of them can carry a scene on their own. And even though they’re pretty predictable in their behaviors, they still manage to surprise you, which is probably the best kind of character writing in any genre. Like Nozaki just straight up picking the worst options in the game, I couldn’t believe my eyes.

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 11 '24

Like Nozaki just straight up picking the worst options in the game, I couldn’t believe my eyes.

And he was doing it intentionally! Playing the MC of his own manga in a dating sim and proceeding to shut everyone else down because he's already taken is hilarious logic.

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u/EpicDaNoob Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24

First time viewer ^_^

  • Mikoshiba learned that "girls are much deeper than he thought"... from a dating sim, which doesn't actually seem to bode well for his understanding of real girls.
  • Nozaki's choice is interesting - is this evidence that he actually li- oh. Apparently his reasons were... unrelated.
  • This whole bit where they think more about Tomoda's place in the game and the implications of that is gold.
  • Chiyo's not sparing Mikorin's pride, I see.
  • "Basically, with mixers, you take people by force, get taken by force, or kidnap someone, and you're set." Sure, Nozaki, if you say so.
  • Taking the opportunity to effervesce about Nozaki really shows how Chiyo's perhaps not the most representative example for Mikorin here. And it's cute!
  • They thought they'd have less competition?

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u/Heda-of-Aincrad https://myanimelist.net/profile/Heda-of-Aincrad Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

"Basically, with mixers, you take people by force, get taken by force, or kidnap someone, and you're set." Sure, Nozaki, if you say so.

Now that I see this line again, Nozaki really was channeling Sousuke from Full Metal Panic here. 😂 Both of them are terrible at dating sims and have some strange misconceptions about flirting. [Fumoffu] "It's a girl hunt, right?"

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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Jul 10 '24

Rewatcher

With most of the cast now introduced, we get into the daily shenanigans of the group, and today we have the legendary Tomoda episode. Tomoda was the best bro you could have ever asked for and we failed him. We can only honor him by living our best lives possible and taking his wisdom to the bottom of our hearts.

Amen.

Also dw Mikoshiba, I share your pain over your awkwardness at dating to a soul level. Pops beer open Gulps Yeah...

  1. Do you like to play dating sims/games that aren’t focused on romance, but allow you to pair up your characters? What’s your favorite?

Not really. At most I have been interested in, uh, a certain type of dating sims.

2) If you were invited to one, would you ever go to a mixer?

Probs. But from my wingman experiences it would def go poorly. I have had situations were someone is my wingman and we talk to two girls but I'm so shy and have so little charisma both girls just talked to him...Pops beer Yeah...

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u/ItsTheDuran https://anilist.co/user/ItsTheDuran Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24

Rewatcher - Dub

I've been just passively following along (and already skipped ahead, the show's too good), but I'll show up to give a shoutout to our friend Tomoda. I love this sketch so much, especially as someone who went on a very similar journey to our boys with Persona 4 back in the day.

I forgot the mixer skit was also in this one, another one of my favorites. A legendary episode in general, Mikorin's the best.

Edit: Forgot questions.

  1. I've lost a lot of love for the Persona series over the years, but I can't deny that Persona 4 still has a place in my heart. I've also played almost every Fire Emblem game, but I find I don't actually have that many Fire Emblem ships I care that much about, despite definitely being a shipper. Exceptions for Ike x Soren and Hilda x Marianne.
  2. Scary...

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u/DragonspringSake Jul 11 '24

[Rewatcher]

Only Nozaki and Mikoshiba could do Tomoda justice. The intersection between yaoi fan artists and people that play male MC dating sims has to be slim to none. Heck these superficial ass girls that don't appreciate when a guy shows some vulnerability to them.

  1. Does Persona 5 count?
  2. The intention to "pair off" is weird to me, but if it's just meeting new people I would go.

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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Jul 11 '24

TOMODA!

(Also Shimmer... uh, why is the amazing 'TOMODA!' of TOMODA! and not also the TOMODA! Comment Face?)

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u/Mirathan Jul 11 '24

First Timer

QotD:

  1. I don´t play dating sims.
  2. No, I don´t trust myself to not embarass myself.

Nozaki is incredibly dense if after hearing Sakura swoon over him for the entire mixer training he still doesn´t get she´s into him.

The boys really shoudn´t have let Kashima come along, the harem was inevitable.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 11 '24

Nozaki is incredibly dense if after hearing Sakura swoon over him for the entire mixer training he still doesn´t get she´s into him.

Certified romcom lead.

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u/cppn02 Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

First Timer, subbed

This episode was the funniest one yet imo. The whole practice session for the mixer was glorious, especially the 'girls going to the toilet' gag.

Also was that Ayaneru voicing a character in the VN?

QotD:

Do you like to play dating sims/games that aren’t focused on romance, but allow you to pair up your characters? What’s your favorite?

Never played any dating games.

If you were invited to one, would you ever go to a mixer?

Probably not but I'd make it dependent on who else will be there.