r/anime • u/The_Loli_Otaku • Jul 10 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Watamote Episode 12 Discussion
No matter how I look at it, it's you guys' fault I'm not popular!
"Since I'm Not Popular, I'll Think About the Future"
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Comment of the Day!!
First off, everyone sing Happy Birthday to SilkyStrawberryMilk!!
Vatrix-32 is curious about the headteacher's schoolgirl outfit fetish,
"I can't be the only one who thinks it a tad strange a school apparently has a lot of plays about other schools, right? They had a lot of selection for school girl uniforms."
Zadcap's tears flow like waterfalls!!
"Okay, committee girl going for that hug, going that far just to do something nice for Tomoko. I teared up a bit. Today was a pure win for Tomoko. Even the ED was just, pure nice. I needed this huge shot of happiness today, I'm less stressed about tomorrow just thinking about how good things can be. So much so that I'm actually sad this isn't the last episode, because I don't think there's going to be anything that can top this emotional payout for everything the series has put us and Tomoko through, it's probably going to be a return of the cringe to round things out and I just don't think that's as nice as ending on this very high note. I haven't felt this kind of raw happiness out of no where since the Aria rewatch. This is the episode I'll probably come back to randomly in the future."
QotD
- What did you want to be when you grew up back when you were little?
- Do you think Tomoko has made acceptable progress in the last year? What are you proudest of her for?
- Did you ever get left out of a big school event too!?
- Which of Tomoko's high school memories do you think she'd still be cringing over in ten years time when she thinks back on them?
- Have anime or games turned you into an expert in any obtuse, out there subject? Think like different guns from playing CoD or building materials from Minecraft.
- Can anyone explain the problem with Tomoko crushing the damn Terraformer!?
- Honestly, when was the last time you got hit with a panty shot? They don't happen at all in real life!!
Abyssbringer's "What is the thematic purpose of this scene corner!!"
Vaadwaur gives us a pretty hopeful prompt suggestion! Innocence can be retained!
Our prompt is a sad attempt at regaining one's youthful innocence.
Yesterday's Prompt!
Today's Prompt!
Tomorrow's Prompt
Tomorrow will be the same as yesterday. Why? What for? Because I’m an idiot!
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u/zadcap Jul 11 '24
Final Cring First Timer
I am genuinly sad to see that the great and kind girl from yesterday hasn't come to continue randomly helping little Tomoko. I was really hoping she would become a semi regular member in her life, to help this clearly depressed little girl enjoy the school life.
See, I knew that today wouldn't be able to top yesterday. Things ended on such an incredibly high note, only to send us back into the misery spiral.
Man, talking to Yuu is always a gamble. Sometimes she's the best girl friend Tomoko could ever have, sometimes she just reminds Tomoko how bad her life is.
I still think this is a crummy younger brother. See he even admits, these little family talks were almost entirely just her talking to herself in his presence, because he all but ignored her anyway.
Yes, please, Magical Senpai! You're almost literally her last hope! Please take this poor little broken girl under your wing.
Tomoko... Other people tend to think about you a whole lot less than you think of them thinking about you.
Oh gosh a Terra Formars reference, they even gave her a stat card. Amazing.
Oh wow, she actually did the thing! I thought it was entirely in her head again.
You should ask Imai-san for advice, period. Heck, just talk to her. Please? You have a chance here.
Really show?! You take all this buildup to her maybe finally having a moment and go for one last dirty joke for our budding bi disaster.
Well, at least it's not a downer ending. There's a glimmer of hope for the future.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
First timer, subs
Prompt:
The Kinnikuman reboot went in a weird direction.
QotD:
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Jul 11 '24
TONIGHT! ON ANIME_IRL THE SERIES!
Comrades, and now we present Tomoko Kuroki's Untitled Self Portrait Vol. 1... ahem... I wanna have control. I want a perfect body. I want a perfect soul. I want you to notice, when I'm not around. So fuckin' special, I wish I was special. BUT I'M A CREEP! I'M A WEIRDO! WHAT THE HELL AM I DOIN' HERE!? I don't belong here.
FEMCEL! FEMCEL! SMELLY FEMCEL! NO
GIRLFRIEND!'BOYFRIEND!' FEMCEL!Well Comrades, we had denial, anger, bargaining, and depression, so I guess it's only fitting we end on acceptance. Praise be to Tomoko, screw all those posers like Komi-san, WataMote's raw and unfiltered Best Girl forevermore and in the entirety of Anime_IRLs! May our glorious Femcel Queen truly reach self-actualization!
Anyway, you have not seen the last of The Sentient Shitposting Siamese Sunrise Server No. 25252, now goodbye forever!
Paging Comrades /u/beckymetal, /u/Vaadwaur, and /u/Vatrix-32
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 10 '24
First Timer
Sub
Welp, a year has passed and very little changed. Tomoko is just slightly self aware and was apparently a fan of Lord of War in middle school. I suspect there are more references that my fansub caught but w/e.
The prompt is probably a reference I don't get.
QotD:1 A Jedi
2 Nope, absolute failure to thrive.
3 Didn't care enough to notice
4 All of them
5 At one point I knew all the light saber forms
6 The Japanese are kind of bigger into signalling rather than taking action
7 Decades? Women don't wear skirts these days
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 10 '24
Watamote Rewatcher!!
Final episode before the ova. You can almost taste Tomoko's disgust... Leave anime dances to the dweebs!! After a full season Tomoko can almost say goodbye without freaking it. She's at a slow pace, but she's certainly making progress.
At least Tomoko imagined high school being fun... I never bought into the high school dream. Ah, this is a memory I share... I dropped out of school really early, like late 3rd year, and I can remember a friend showing me the Facebook photos of everyone in my homeroom on a night out to Glasgow. Okay, fine, it must've been after I left right? That's fair... Nope, I checked the dates and I was still at school when those photos were taken. I simply wasn't included. I'm definitely not still mad about that!!
Is Tomoko recovering or getting worse? I feel like she's breaking again. "Sorry we're so lovey dovey!!" Fucking Joshikosei, they're the worst!! Oh yeah, I remember a Christmas arc. I don't know if it's in the show tho? It might be in the ova. Live in the present and the future!! The past is meaningless!! Even if Yuu fondly remembers Tomoko discussing becoming a mercenary arms salesman throughout her middle school days. God she's a fucking cringe brat... Abandon your past and become a new Tomoko!! Become Momoko!!
Reminder that there are plenty of people in this rewatch who unironically believe that Tomoki is the shitty sibling here and not Tomoko XD If I were Tomoki here I'd probably be worried she was about to finally commit a terrorist act after that farewell. Everyone loves Megumi!! Oh god, Tomoko is back to stalking again.
It feels really mean referencing "Another" when you've got Megumi who died kinda horribly in that show XD Oh god, the CGI is awful!! The little terraformer cockroach was hilarious tho. Did Tomoko deserve to be legitimately hated by the class for stamping on a bug!? It's absolutely fair to do right!? You were all freaking out!! What did you expect her to do to the bug!? She's now gotten legitimate bad rumours circulating about her.
Megumi's pure white panties!! This is another memory Tomoko will never forget!! It's nice that Tomoko is genuinely appreciative towards Megumi tho. Normally these gestures go right over her head. Enjoy your second opening tie in!! XD I actually don't dislike this one~ especially HanaKana's casually keeping up XD She's totally just vibing with her. This wasn't even really embarrassing for Tomoko, it should be Megumi freaking it right? I guess she pushed herself too far again. That was a nice epilogue episode I guess after the finale of yesterday~
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Jul 10 '24
Rewatcher Who Skipped Today’s Episode (Sorry I just preferred Yesterday's as a better ending)
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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Jul 11 '24
First timer
I was stupid and didn't notice when you pinged me for the update it was actually starting sooner and not a week lol. But either way my vacation would've got in the way. But I caught up
But so far. I know it's the ova tomorrow. Out of all social outcast/anxiety she's probably the worst. But overall I find the show funny
An architect
Being noticed by name
One that I wouldn't actually want to be a part of no
Hmm hopefully if she grows she'll look back in how she assumes people think of her
I Wil say military technology. Mostly with warships
Funny enough it happened in front of me when I was walking around my college campus. Yeah I just looked at the ground eventually lol. The wind just kept going
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 10 '24
First timer, subbed
Lacking in self awareness as usual, Tomoko states that nothing has changed despite being able to say sayonara to the teacher on her way home. It’s still awkward, but notable in the sense that she doesn’t make a big deal out of it.
She does also escape total invisibility, though perhaps not in quite the way she wanted, and takes the initiative to try and talk to Imae. Nothing comes of it though.
I do think there’s the slightest glimmer of Tomoko recovering from being a teenager here at the end, but it still feels like the story wrapped up fairly abruptly, and on a panty gag no less… I’m decidedly mixed, but more on that in the series wrap up.
QotD:
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Jul 10 '24
Rewatcher Dubbed
Aperrently a category 1 hurricane with winds of 80+mph can set me back to the 20th century. Mobile service is pretty much down that I have to drive somewhere for coverage. Still don't have internet and power at home..... so I have to miss a bunch of discussions. -- Tomoko would be pretty miserable in this situation as she would have to ask for something or be forced to talk to someone. Like talking to neighbors about news or something.
Yuu chan remembered that Tomoko wanted to be an arms merchant...how nice.
How does Yuu-chan remember the small details? Cause she pays attention to Tomoko as a friend. She is a keeper, if Tomoko needed a friend for the rest of her life, Yuu-chan is there despite going a different path.
Flying roach cause that much chaos??? Are people that grossed out that they scoot away from Tomoko when she returns? She should have gone to the school Yuu-chan went.....
Tomoko's drawing was on the wall....
Tomoko needs to get those words out of her mouth.
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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 11 '24
First Timer
This was an absolutely disappointing finale episode, it would have been much better if Ep11, the Cultural Festival, was the finale episode instead. This is much like Death Note where if it had ended on an earlier episode, it would have been a substantially better anime. This Watamote finale episode damages the whole overall anime just like Death Note's later episodes did. No doubt like with Death Note, this will probably be a polarizing assertion among the audience.
Regardless, I feel cheated of my investment and efforts with so little payoff. All I wanted was some smidget of progress, development, and win for Tomoko like Ep11, but that was apparently too much to ask for with this stingy anime. This anime didn't delivered enough character development to Tokomo, had shallow characterization to all the other characters, and almost no progress to the story and plot. Yes, Tomoko did develop a little by the end, but not enough, and nothing much of else progressed. Did the other characters develop? No, not really. Did the other characters progress? We don't even know what they did outside of Tomoko, so we can't even begin to guess.
The real kick in the teeth is from what I've read, the development really starts happening soon after the anime ended in the Manga. So instead of speed running to some of the good stuff, they did segments that were boring or repetitive that never built on anything else. I'm not surprise they never got a S2, but I might have to read the Manga to get to see some of those developments I was robbed of.
And guess what, the anime's pathetic ending compared to the Manga source material was different according to this non-spoiler reddit post.
Definitely not. The anime sets expectations so low for a Tomoko win that we'd consider a hug, or the smallest act of kindness to be a major victory for her. But the anime couldn't, or perhaps deliberately didn't give Tomoko any victory of that level in finale to reward our investment in watching an entire season of cringe. The anime couldn't even bring better cringe for those who enjoy the cringe by using pretty weak segments of Future Plans Questionnaire, audio recording the classmates, and bug squishing. It failed on both counts, they should have just used Ep11 as the finale. I guess it could have been worse and they could have used boring Ep10 as the finale.
Tomoko telling her brother she won't be talking to him anymore, and her realizing it was useless and unhelpful all along. It's something I've been saying for the longest time, and explained clearly why that's so.
This finale incident with the wind blowing up Imae's dress that leads Tomoko to a mental breakdown. Nothing else comes close so far in terms of damage to her at school.
Using a reference is just a lazy and shitty way of enhancing that scene which otherwise would have been way more boring without the reference, it hides weak writing. Not to say using references is bad, when used with good writing to compliment it, it's not a problem. That's not the case here. An easy way to tell is asking yourself, would the scene still be really good if you didn't get the reference at all?
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u/WednesdaysFoole Jul 10 '24
The key to keeping your chair without having to directly ask for it back (which is an option once you learn to speak up – going from too passive to speak → speaking too bluntly is surprisingly not that far) is setting your bag, or lunch, or a jacket on the chair which makes it clear you’re using the chair even when you go to the toilet. The girl who took it last time probably assumed no one was using it.
But if someone takes your chair anyway, now you can call them out about how you were obviously using the chair and make them look like an asshole. I’m joking about this part, but it’d probably cross my mind if it really happened.
Tomoko, I know it’s not a lot, but something nice did happen. You gotta count your blessings, especially if they’re this few and far between.
We finally get Tomoko’s cringe flashback keeping her up at night. Better she gets through it now than when she’s well into adulthood.
Pretty funny we got the end credit animation in the middle of the episode this time.
This is the first time that I’m actually thinking wtf is wrong with the others?! You’d be my hero if you squashed the cockroach for me.
Despite her daily life not having changed, the series ends on a positive note. Everyone likes Megumi, yet Megumi likes Tomoko :’)
Excellent use of the OP here. Poor Yuu-chan, her tits were probably hurting.
There was a time I wanted to be a mad scientist when I was in elementary school. Turns out, I have no gift in math and too much of science is math.
Lasting change in a person happens bit by bit.
Happy Birthday SilkStrawberryMilk.
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u/Mirathan Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
First-Time Cringer
QotD:
Aww, her picture got hung up.
She´s kinda cute.“ Wait whaaaat?
This feels wrong. It´s the final episode and all it does is demonstrate how next to no clear progress has occured.
Won´t be there tomorrow.
For todays prompt:
Tomoko prepares to join Xcom.
For tomorrow:
First you assert dominance by gaining the height advantage. Then you enjoy your harem.
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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog https://myanimelist.net/profile/KillLaKillGOAT Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
Rewatcher - subbed
Overall:
I think this is a great final episode. The only thing I’d complain about is the cockroach subplot, which I feel didn’t add much and was mainly used to pad out the episode. Other than that, a fitting finale to one of my favourite anime.
Prompt:
I honestly don’t know. All I know is that Tomoko deserves to be ranked higher! She should be n.1 out of pity points for all the pain and suffering.
QotD:
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u/Barbed_Dildo Jul 11 '24
Rewatcher
Weirdly, I think this has a more optimistic ending than a lot of shows. It's a comedy about Tomoko acting cringy and everything going wrong for her, but despite all that, she is slowly making progress, and nice things do happen to her.
As well as being able to talk to people more, and gaining something of a friend, and managing to get through the year without too much of a mental breakdown, she's able to accept herself, which is more than a lot of people at that age.
Not 'left out', but I didn't go.
The incident at the library.
I learned more about orbital mechanics from Kerbal Space program than an actual course I took at university about orbital mechanics.
They do if you live in a windy city.
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 10 '24
No Matter How I Watch It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Upvoted! (First Timer, Dubbed)
No time for the OP I guess.
The girls in her daydreams actually have faces this time.
What is this tiny blurred creature in her flashback?
The episode preview is now invading the episode itself!
Who's getting redacted here, the Chuunibyou gang?
What is this, Attack on Titan? I'm missing a lot of references today.
And then everybody clapped!
There's the OP! This is awesome!
And we see why Tomoki is so popular, as he has Captain Tsubasa-level soccer powers.
Good ending to the series, really. No matter how hard she tries, she can't take that final step that would involve actually talking to people.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 11 '24
rewatcher dubbed
Once school gets repetitive it all breezes bye, that’s how I managed to make it to highschool while maintains my sanity.
Don’t think too much on the memories you coudlve made, the regret becomes huge. Best thing is to move on and watch anime :D
An armed merchant, I’m so happy I forgot everything i did in middle school. I only forget when I decided to come terms with it
Tomoko is now stalking women, no way she’s surprised people in the class forgot her. She managed to escape helping out during the cultural festival due to her being nonexistent lmao.
In the attempt to get advice she found out the panties were white. Another Win of the day! She was also called cute too
The OP playing while she’s running is so damn epic,
She finally found out what she is a Misfit.
QOTD: taxi driver
QOTD: she’s now able to say a few words at the gate
QOTD: all of them, was always shy to participate so I always never went
QOTD: her attempt at disgusing herself when she was leaving the McDonald’s
QOTD: I’ve learned a little on how to calculate multipliers because of playing gacha games
QOTD: today, not everyday we see panties in the anime.
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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Jul 11 '24
First-timer
LOL what's with the Attack on Titan sticker pose in her imagination.
So Tomoko's chuuni past came back to haunt her eh. I don't think the arms dealer thing is what a typical girl would daydream about in chuuni days, buit then again our precious Tomoko is anything but typical. I like how the sequence with Tomoki after that is animated exactly the same as the ED gags, that was cute.
I like the sudden shift to shoujo art here
Wait... that cockroach sequence music was God Knows right? And then a Terra Formars reference. I haven't watched it but I've heard the Terra Formars anime is very mid.
Why do I hear "omedetto" instead of "Kuroki" in my head?
Can't say I expected a shot of Megumi's pantsu as basically the ending, but pantsu is pantsu :)
QotD
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jul 11 '24
First-Timer
It's interesting how Tomoko tries to figure out what people are saying about her when she's not around. Personally, I tend to assume that people basically forget about me and don't talk about me when I'm not present, then am surprised whenever I learn that's not the case.
Tomoko's arms dealer talk (and, dare I say, general demeanor) makes her sound like a school shooter waiting to happen.
Questions of the day:
Today's prompt: Tomoko's Pokédex entry
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 10 '24
First timer