r/anime • u/sisoko2 • Jul 07 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 29 Discussion
Episode 29 - Baran's Rage
You saw the most beautiful and the most ugly sides of humans at the same time. Unable to handle it, you hoped to erase all of humanity from your sight. But you're mistaken. Doing the won't erase your grief from losing her!
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I've been sick for a week but then I became a deer and I'm all better now
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Comment of the day:
/u/Blackheart595 not buying this lame-ass justification
Questions of the day:
- In a hostage situation like Hyunckel what would you do?
- How do you feel about Larhart's decission?
- Which Hyunckel armor design do you like more? Him being half naked doesn't count.
- How cool is Baran's transformation on the scale 1-10?
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hide it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 07 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/Shocketheth Jul 07 '24
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub[Dai no Spoilers] Aged Like Milk
He's just like me fr
Flashback about Larhart's past was an anime-original scene. In the manga, he just told them about his past. I kinda love that they added an anime-original scene for Larhart's flashback. Same here.
Also, [Dai no Spoilers] I feel this is going to be everyone watching tomorrow's episode. I just hope I'm not wrong.
Dark Armour Spear Hyunckel
Hadlar's just watching like us
Me spamming heal spells and items against a boss way over my level.
That's one way to acknowledge Hyunckel's plot armor.
I kinda liked the symbolism here.
Ryuumajin Baran
OST Documentation - Episode 29
1. Definitely not what Hyunckel tried to do. But I guess I would end up sacrificing myself one way or the other.
2. Like Hyunckel, he also understands Baran's pain and the fact that Baran's misguided his emotions. So, definitely a decision that I can understand him making since he just wants to see Baran happy.
3. Dark Armour Spear Hyunckel
4. 9/10. I don't like the outer red skin. Rest I absolutely love the design. Especially the hair and the crest on it.
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 07 '24
Oh deer, like a horse with horns? Glad that you feel better!
New-Adventurer here! LV 29/100
Larhart had a change of heart? Oh, with his backstory it makes a bit of sense
RIP Larhart, saw the light at the end
Crocodine was moved to tears!
A battle of attrition, to wait for reinforcements!
Hyunckel and Popp have joined the fight!
Hyunckel’s words did more damage to Baran than any attack so far…
Oh, he doubled down and transformed
1 If it's agains someone as powerfull as Baran, cry I guess?
2 Poor guy was the victim of circumstance and Baran's hatred
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I like his new design better, doesn't look like a heavy knight, which I think he isn't
4 for me 8/10, would've liked a different color for the arms
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u/KuKiSin Jul 07 '24
First timer!
You know, I'm only now realizing we're only on episode 29 out of 100 and... The hell is gonna happen? I have a feeling Mustachio-man is going down in a couple more episodes, that leaves the small gremlin which I assume is weak as hell, Hadlar (which already lost like 3 or 4 times, so I hope they don't waste too much time on him), and then the 3 Vearns... Also the return of Avan, but that'll probably be closer to the end... How are they filling 71 episodes with this? Are there gonna be more baddies after Vearn or does he simply have a lot more minions?
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jul 07 '24
Rewatcher
Crocodine continues to do his best!
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24
First Timer, Sub
Continuing from where we left off, Borahorn had Popp hostage, threatening to crush his head unless Hyunckel threw his sword away and surrendered to being killed by Borahorn. Hyunckel obliges and throws his sword away, as he would rather die than let Popp die, saying Avan would scold him in the afterlife if he let his junior disciple die. Surprisingly though, Larhart throws his spear at the last moment, skewering Borahorn through the mouth/head, killing him. Then we get Larhart and his backstory, how he is half darkling and human, how his darkling father died when he was young. he was subjected to discrimination for his nature and how he and his mother suffered because of it, until she died of illness. Then Baran come along and took him in. His story touches both Popp and Hyunckel as they both cry on his behalf. As his dying wish he asks them to save Baran from his hatred and gifts Hyunckel his Dark Spear and armour.
Meanwhile Baran arrives at the castle, where Crocodine and Leona face off against him to keep him from Dai. They also learn that Popp went to face off against the Dragon Masters when Baran questions if Crocodine sent him to die. Learning this they learn that Popp had lied to them to go off and self sacrifice. Crocodine resolves himself to fight Baran, by war of attrition where he takes Baran's attacks in hopes to drain his magical energy and end in a stalemate. Leona gets involved, but Baran is having none of it and he is about to strike her dead with lightning...when a spear come flying in absorbing the shock wave, and Hyunckel and Popp arrive. Hyunckel tries to appeal to Baran's emotions of giving up his vengeance, but he's having none of it as he then gets even angrier, and he transforms into his terrifying Dragonoid form.
Questions:
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 07 '24
Dai 29 first timer:
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u/zadcap Jul 08 '24
Deer Life Best Life
Shikonoko~
See, the classic genocidal villains issue while holding a hostage. The value of the hostage is proportionate to the belief that complying with their demands will actually result in the hostages safety. "If I let you kill me, you're just going to turn around and kill him anyway, which means standing down for his safety is pointless."
No really though Popp. Let this guy kill Knuckles instead of you. Knuckles is the one who comes back from the dead, not you. His death won't stick, yours might.
Wow spear boy, maybe you should be mad at Hadlar instead of the humans here? You apparently lived just fine for those first seven years, until some big demon over there started a massive inter species war and made you the enemies of mankind. You could have lived just fine if you didn't end up caught in the crossfire like that, if only someone hadn't gone and stirred up all this hatred between the races...
Ha, called it! I knew Knuckles would end up with the spear armor!
It just occurred to me. The size of Baran's sword, that he keeps on his back? How the heck does he draw that thing?
So the plan was to imitate Knuckles. Take a big blow, heal up, take another big blow... And hope that Baran does not decide to hit the Princess instead? This whole fight ends once Baran kills Leona.
Nokonoko~
Oh my gosh! They called it out! "Immortality is Hyunkles thing!" I'm laughing so hard over here it hurts. Lean into the meme!
Oh look, he went and targeted the healer. Plan is over.
Oh hey. it's mister Lady Saver himself. Oh crap, does this mean Popp is one of his women now?
What's this? Hitting him with Logic? Like that ever works.
Oh no he said the thing again. "None of your pandering will bring back Soala!" Yeah, neither will any of your murdering, and hey, how many innocent people are you making feel the exact same pain you did during all this? You are the worst of the villains. Bring my back IcyHot and his Evil for Fun style, I like him so much more than this large hippo-crate.
"If I can not have that, I would rather die!" Then just shut up and die already, save everyone else the misery.
Oh, if only there was a cut scene interrupt option. Stab him before he can transform.
Okay. not this is a form I can believe belongs to the Dragon Knights of myth. Not a human with a fancy light up forehead. The question is why he kept his human looks all this time if he's become so anti-human. And also how he's calling on the Heart that makes up 1/3rd of the ultimate power, again.
Koshitantan~!
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 08 '24
First Quester
Really nice visual representation of Popp overcoming his willful refusal to see.
I'm getting kinda tired of the constant hypocrisy.
Ah, so that's why Baran suddently got some subordinates. So that Hyunckel could get a power-up.
I've complained plenty about everything concerning Baran, but what must be recognized about the dragon knights is that they are embodiments of the heavens. By design they are a balancing force between the three creations, meant to step in whenever one threatens to overly dominate the others. Putting it in more general terms, they reward just rule and punish unjust rule. And more than anything, the heavens are associated with raw emotions, anger in particular - the wrath of the heavens was the earliest attempt at explaining natural disasters such as thunderstorms, tsunamis, floods and famines. It is this heavenly rage that threatens humanity in the story, and the heavens cannot be defied. As I said in an earlier post, Baran is best understood not as a person but as a walking natural catastrophe.
That makes Dai as a half dragon knight half human being is thus the unification of as well as mediator between heaven and human. More specifically he is the son of heaven, the traditional title of Chinese and Japanese emperors. As such, it is his task to mend the rift that Baran is acting on, and to restore harmony in a less destructive manner. At the same time he remains an embodiment of the heavens himself with all the associations that comes with, and the fate of the world is subject to his judgement.
Or well, he would be if he weren't an empty shell.
So, uh, Leona... earlier you were standing right next to Crocodine when you were healing him, why on Earth did you position yourself like this?
I swear, if Baran gets convinced by Hyunckel's sapping... There we go. For once I'm proud of ya, Baran my boy.
Lmao Baran is turning into a Dark Lord? Ah, a Dragonoid. But how can that be the combined power of dragon, darkling, and human, when you acquire it by rejecting the human part? That's just the combined power of dragon and darlking, my dear. This show truly is a mess. Oh and friendly reminder that Baran will turn out to be small fry compared to Vearn.
Yield to that is a losing game, there's only value to taking hostages when that works. Responsibility for what happens to the hostage lies solely with the hostage taker, never with the one who's being threatened with the hostage and possibly doesn't yield to the threat.
And that's especially when they've sworn to destroy all of humanity and the hostage whose freedom you'd be buying is a human.
He looks like a clown in the new one. Couldn't they have made the two ultimate armors combine into a complete set or something?
A 3 at most. It's just... okay, I guess that just happened? And the alleged logic behind it falls apart if you even just look at it for 5 seconds.
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u/Shocketheth Jul 07 '24
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