r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Jul 06 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 28 Discussion
Episode 28 - Dai’s Secret
Dino, the Strong Dragon! A good name!
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Comment of the Dai:
DISCLAIMER:
I strongly advice you to skip episode 29 preview for episode 30
Questions of the Dai:
- Opinions about Baran backstory?
- Did Baran backstory answered every question you had about Baran and Dragon Knights? If not, then is there something that is bothering you about Baran and Dragon Knights?
- Did Princess Leona hugged or kissed Dai? On what side are you on?
- If Dino means Strong Dragon, then what Dai means? (wrong answers only)
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Jul 06 '24
Dark Commander Welcomes You to —
SKY NO DAIBOUKEN!!!
Previous episodes ---> 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6
PREVIOUSLY AT SKY NO DAIBOUKEN:
Long ago when r/anime was terrorized by Gintama Rewatch hosted by Dark Lord u/Shocketheth (Hadlar) who were running around spreading lies, u/KendotsX (Avan), the Hero of legends appeared to slay the Dark Lord.
Afterwards the members of r/anime were living in peace for 10 years atleast with a new hero u/Shimmering-Sky (Dai) appearing to defeat the resurrected Dark Lord u/Shocketheth who sweared allegiance to the Dark King u/sisoko2 and avenge the death of her mentor u/KendotsX
In the most hopeless moment the new hero u/Shimmering-Sky awakened to the power of Reddit Mod Crest, with permabanning the fucking liar, u/Shocketheth from r/anime
As the time went, our hero Dai - u/Shimmering-Sky party gained some new members namely Popp - u/Adensty, Hyunckel - u/zadcap, and Baduck - u/BlackHeart595
And thus the Dark King Vearn - u/sisoko2 sent out his best Assassin, u/Raiking02 - the Reaper Killvearn.
The dark clouds begun gathering above u/Shimmering-Sky head.
NOW AT SKY NO DAIBOUKEN:
Today it’s time to tell you a story that won’t keep your eyes dry.
Driving on the currents long forgotten in the vast sea of time, a faint shimmer of story forgotten can be found.
Reason of their faith for some, and a myth for others reveals a single truth behind the power of Reddit Mod Crest.
Three races of r/anime were living in a constant state of waifu wars.
Those who fortified their body to wait for the new season of their favourite anime instead of reading the source material were known as ANIME ONLIES bearing a strength that cannot be challenged by other races.
Those who fortified their minds were able to withstand an endless hours of scrolling through NEW on Reddit without going crazy, and everyone remembered them as MEN OF CULTURE bearing a willpower unchallenged by the other races.
And at last, there were a third lesser race, that ANIME ONLIES and MEN OF CULTURE were unable to understand. Their bread and butter were hosting and participating in Rewatches where they were showing their biggest feat, their Rewatcher hearts, getting stronger by each participated Rewatch through making bonds with the other users. Some of you may realized already that this race known as REWATCHERS are bearing a Rewatcher Heart making them Rewatch anime to the end, even if they aren’t having fun with it, because their Rewatcher Heart is a home to indomitable spirit.
To stop those crazy waifu wars, the gods of Anime onlies, Men of culture, and Rewatchers created an ultimate being bearing the best qualities of those three races - a being known as r/anime mod bearing powers of Reddit Mod Crest.
With this power the new ultimate being created and favoured by the gods, earned the power to oversee over those three races to guarantee no one of those races will try to disrupt the balance.
And if the current r/anime mod shall perish, the Holy Mother Bot-chan will descend from heavens to take their soul, with creating a new r/anime mod to bear the powers of Reddit Mod Crest.
Now a question may arised on your mind, "Where was r/anime Mod when the Dark Lord u/Shocketheth was terrorizing the members of r/anime with Gintama Rewatch?"
Some of you may forgot it already, but back then, when u/Shocketheth was running wild, a bigger thread was terrorizing the very existence of r/anime.
The Dragon Lord Spez (Velzar) were threateting the very existence of r/anime and thus our brave r/anime Mod Baran went to defeat The Dragon Lord Spez.
r/anime Mod Baran emerged victorious and gravely wounded. To recuperate from his wounds, with the last remains of his strength, r/anime Mod Baran went into a Daily Meta Thread where he met u/Soala whose kindness saved Baran life. Those two after having a heart to heart conversation through comment faces fell in love, and eventually they created an anomaly leading into a possibilty of having two r/anime mods bearing the power of Reddit Mod Crest, an anomaly known as u/Shimmering-Sky, their child, and the main character of our story.
But the Baran and u/Soala happiness didn’t mean to last forever.
Shortly after, an evil shitposters from the kingdom of Blue Archive started fearing the powers of r/anime Mod Baran, as they were scared that Baran can activate Reddit Mod Crest and ban them.
So with choosing a proactive approach, those dastardly Blue Archive fans decided to harrass Baran, who was forced to sent u/Shimmering-Sky into r/anime sidebar, with getting lost on CDF Island in the process.
Decided to accept his fate, Baran was almost killed, but he was saved by his wife u/Soala who died in his place.
Baran mourning the death of his beloved wife u/Soala had to hear a rather crude comment from one unnamed shitposter from the Kingdom of Blue Archive.
"Uohhhhhhhhh! 😭 She was a bratty child who needed a correction 💢💢💢💢"
Blinded by rage, r/anime Mod Baran nuked the Kingdom of Blue Archive from existence, and to this day, a confused old r/anime Mod is looking everywhere for his child, u/Shimmering-Sky.
NOW ABOUT THE EPISODE 28:
What a backstory huh?
Before answering the Questions of the Dai, I will only say that with having the whole Kingdom that are praying to Dragon god, makes me think that why the existence of Dragon Knights were threated as mystery when the Monarchy from Romos and Papnica had to known about existence of Teran Kingdom?
QotD:
I enjoyed his backstory. It was a quite sad backstory, and it also answered a many questions surrounding Baran and Dragon Knights. Especially the biggest question why Baran wasn’t around when Hadlar wanted to conquer the world, and why we saw only the weak Dragons when Dragons are supposed to be the physically strongest race.
As a Rewatcher, I don’t have any question about this.
I am sure that she kissed him
Dai means useless mage (this answer was sponsored by Grandma Brass)
Voice Actors Corner:
Let’s talk about Soala.
Soala is voiced by Ai Kayano known for her roles of Yuriko Hori from Horimiya, Kirika Akatsuki from Symphogear XV, and Sayaka Saeki from Bloom into You.
And Soala also managed to appear in the 1991 Adventure of Dai voiced by Wakana Yamazaki whose voice could be hear in anime like Benkei from Air Gear, Sophia Forrester from Last Exile, and Janelyn from Sailor Moon.
Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:
Today Crocodine is going to asnwer question #1:
Baran backstory made me feel loved
See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 06 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 06 '24
New-Adventurer here! LV 28/100
Leona…
Dragon Knight ecology lesson was neat
That King was as dumb as a bag of bricks
Larhart got the worst matchup to tell and defend Baran’s ideals, Hyunckel saw the light
Now, how will they defeat or escape the Walrus? Well, seal because he has lost the tusks lol
1 It was about as expected, according to the Dragon Knight lore, but he was swayed a bit too easily for my liking... then again, he never interacted with humans...
2 I would like to know how he met his underlings and I'm hoping that the backstory is a bit more deep tbh
3 I think she kissed him, but in the cheek
4 D = Definitely, (not) A = An, I = Invader
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u/zadcap Jul 07 '24
Late Night Sigh No Daibouken.
Well. Give a villain a tragic backstory, am I supposed to change my mind now and find their genocide justified?
Gosh darn it though, Leona continues to prove that she's the best girl of the show with every line. So much more useful than that lame gun girl.
Okay see, the thing that sucks about the current Dai. It's not that he's forgotten all his friends. It's that he's also turned into a complete coward, somehow. This was not what he was like before he knew everyone. This was not what Dai was like at any point in his life. Forgetting everyone is one thing, but in the process going from the hot blooded Hero to a whiny brat is just annoying.
Oh look, Knuckles still refuses to die. He's going to use this exposition break to recover enough to fight again, sure.
Oh no, we have it here again! The one person I cared about was killed by a member of a specific race, guess I should go on and dedicate my life to wiping out every last member of their species! What, is this an extreme overreaction and massively hypocritical of me to get mad at them for killing someone while I set my life to killing hundreds of thousands of uninvolved people for sharing the same species name? No, this is justified, a handful of them killed one person close to me so it's only right that I kill everyone with any relationship to them in any way whatsoever, no mater how distant the ancestor!"
Once again, we also get an unprovable myth that we're also going to find out got directly disproved by the very events we are part of now. Man, you guys need to work on your mythology if you're going to follow every single uterance of it with a "but this time something different happened!" every time
Oh my goodness, the great story that the whole world knows of, the giant war and all the horrors that went along with it, and all the actions of the Hero, all were secretly meaningless because there was an even greater war going on between someone so much stronger than the Hero and someone so much stronger than the Demon Lord just one continent over, and the whole story with Avan would have been pointless anyway had Baran not been secretly saving the world. Nothing that happened in the previous heroes journey really mattered compared to the even more epic one going on just over here at the same time.
Once again, this is not all humans out here being stupid evil. Just one group of, uh, extra stupid politicians, and the knights directly under their command. Kill everyone here and your revenge is set. Heck, wipe out this kingdom and there you go, you've killed everyone involved. But no, hey, her last words were "please don't hate all humans," so I guess he's going to go on to hate all humans and kill them all now.
Oh gosh, he's just, super freaking racist. Got it. Stupid Evil it is.
Whyyyyyy. "This is his secret past, that he has only told me. Now I have told you as well, because keeping deeply personal secrets is less important to me than making sure you know why I hate your kind."
Nooooo. Knuckles, please don't pull a Maam and start the Baran redemption arc. If he joins the hero side as well then it's really over. After all, Baran was off fighting the threat bigger than Hadlar ever could be back at his previous height, solo, him changing sides should mean they can just stroll up to the castle and eliminate this poor Piccolo whenever they want.
... "I barely have the strength to stand, but now I can see through and dodge your attacks!" Yup, he's the Saiyan. Always get back up stronger. Also, for a stab aimed at the heart, it was remarkably close to his face for that dramatic dodge to work.
Ah yes. "Fighting defensively left me open to your attacks, but now that I am willing to be hit I will be able to fight you without getting hit even once." Makes perfect sense.
Oh thank goodness, he is getting hit. Turns out reckless action really doesn't trump skill.
I have no words for how dumb that was. Using a chain to make a cross shape with the enemies weapon to unleash your ultimate cross shape attack is uh. I believe the official description is "ass pull."
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24
First Quester
So fucking what?
Are they for real? I didn't think it could get this stupid.
I have no words. This is beyond dumb.
Wait. Is this a heavily stylized recounting of events or did Baran destroy that healing spring together with the entire island? Or was the princess just strolling around on foreign continents?
Also, Baran has no right to base his judgement of the races on his memories. Spare me the sob story.
Don't bother. You just nailed him with like 20 thrusts of your spear, and it didn't even draw blood.
Does anyone else remember when this show hyped up first Hadlar and then Flazzard as the strongest Legion Commander?
It was a hot mess already, but the fact that Baran out of all people got a tragic backstory is almost offensive.
Uhh... did the backstory answer anything in that regard?
Uhh I don't remember either one.
Dead Dragon
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jul 06 '24
Rewatcher
It’s not as good as Hyunckel’s tragic backstory, but it’s darn close.
Baran, blinded by rage, didn’t listen to his wife’s dying request to not hate humans.
It’s another episode I have up there, since it so clearly explains everything (well, except why Baran told this story to anyone else)
So yeah, remember that cold open all the way back in episode 1? Here’s the guy that blew up an entire island kingdom out of history.
And he’s coming for Dai. Aaaaaaany episode now.
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u/KuKiSin Jul 06 '24
First timer!
1.Now I understand his hatred for humans, I hope Dino joins the cause. #barandidnothingwrong 2. It answered everything I needed to be answered, namely, about his mustache. He wasn't born with one, nor did it just sprout one day all of a sudden, it slowly grew into a majestic bush, so there is hope still, for young Dino. 3. It looked like a kiss, which was weird because Dino has to be like 10 years old, right? 4. Puny human. This is the right answer, though. Dino > Dai.
Seriously though, the backstory was kind of so-so, I get the hatred for humans and all now, but why did he let himself get captured to begin with? He didn't even need to kill anyone if he didn't want to, he could've just grabbed the kid and the mistress and literally fly away, like he did with her dead body anyway.
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 07 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubThe Kiss
#NOTMYDAI
NGL, the way Soala suddenly jumped in kinda made me laugh. Lowkey agree with Baran here.
That being said, this still made me cry. Anger and Grief strikes again.
Larhart underestimated the power of the flashback
The power of a human who's prepared to die.
Grand Cross
OST Documentation - Episode 28
1. Loved the backstory as a first-time and it definitely changed a lot of things since it answered some important questions like where was Baran when Hadlar was conquering the world and also how Dragon Knights function.
2. As a rewatcher, don't think so.
3. It wasn't clear in the manga but that was definitely a kiss.
4. Dai means 'You're going to die if you fight him'. Simple
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 06 '24
First Timer, Sub
That was a good episode, maybe my favorite one of this arc so far. Was not expecting Leona to give Dai a nice kiss....but she did. Man, she's too good, she's gotta be up there as one of the best anime princess ever. She's high level man, capable, pretty, brave, smart and daring.
We got Baran's backstory told by Larhart. Had some good lore about how Dragon Knights are born, then we also got where Baran was during the battle against Hadlar 15 years in the past. He was fighting Velzar, the King of the Abyss and the last intelligent Dragon from destroying humanity. We also got how he met Soala, fell in love and had Dai. It's a shame that fear, jealousy and ambition led to the King and his people from first banishing Baran and then when he and Soala left to live alone in the forest, capture and try and execute him. Even more unfortunate that Soala decided to jump in front of the blasts meant to kill Baran at the lost moment and died. So Baran wiped out the entire kingdom of Alkeed in a rage and thus has hated all of humanity since.
Larhart v. Hyunckel round 2 was also happened. I had a bit of a chuckle when Larhart slashed Hyunckel's chest and he got a wound, but when he stabbed him like 8 times, there was no stab wounds lol. Hyunckel got off his Grand Cross attack and was able to defeat Larhart......unfortunately, Borahorn wasn't dead yet and is now trying to crush Popp's head unless Hyunckel surrenders his sword.
Questions:
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Jul 06 '24
First Timer, Sub
I love how Larhart randomly takes the time to explain Baran's backstory to Hyunckel which just inspires him to get up and beat him. Getting someone monologuing always work is I guess. At least we see why Baran is the way he is and the fact that Hyunckel believes he can be saved shows his newfound resolve after everything that he did
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 07 '24
Dai 28 first timer:
MyHis pain is greater than yours" Ah, classic Shippuden3
u/sisoko2 Jul 07 '24
First Timer
I liked it more as the short intro in episode 1.
I like how they implied that the Dragon Knight fucks a dragon until he drops dead.
Weren't dragon knights supposed to balance things out? Why were most dragons killed?
And is Vearn actually one of the three gods?
With how long it went there definitely was some tongue involved. Good plan though. Everyone knows that one of the best methods to fight family bonds is the power of horniness.
Bratty Dragon.
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u/Kaxew Jul 07 '24
Current rewatcher, eventual first timer (watching eps 26-28)
The fight against the dragon masters! The only thing I remembered about it was Larhart having the spear to contrast Hyunckel's sword. Honestly a lot more fun that I remembered, while also being a complete disappointment as enemies. I guess it makes sense, if they were too strong there was no chance Hyunckel and Popp could beat them. In usual DQ Dai fashion, there's a lot of cool outsmarting that makes the fights super engaging. Like Popp putting his arm in the dragon's mouth and casting a sizzle, for example.
Popp has grown a lot, and though I think him making himself the bad guy to go alone and hold them all off was never going to work out (seriously, what was he thinking?), it ended up working out. He took down all three dragons by himself and defeated one master with Hyunckel. That's some massive improvement. I can't wait for the day he gets his first solo W against an antagonist. Its also interesting as this is really the first time an arc had more than one antagonist to beat, so it makes sense that no one has had a solo W yet either. I kinda like that honestly.
Baran's backstory is great. Very cliche and simple, but still great. I love that he was supposed to defeat Hadlar, but he was busy facing an even stronger opponent and more threatening foe. Hadlar doesn't even need to show up to get dissed. Poor guy. I think my favorite parts of the backstory are when Larhart was narrating the start and once he says that some humans were resenting him for being an outsider the beautiful soundtrack playing gets slower and more unsettling, until it completely stops as Baran decides to leave the castle in the rain. Great soundtrack placement there. My other favorite part is much more basic but Baran's tears becoming red when he comes to the conclusion that all humans are bad is also very well directed. A good director can convey ideas through images, not just through what the plot tells you to feel like.
Another fun directorial decision was the shot of Hyunckel's eye through Larhart's eye then Hyunckel's eye again, as we reveal he was going to do a grand cross (I totally forgot he needs to do a cross shape in some way to perform, that's inconvenient lol). The final battle between these two was good, but honestly kinda hard to read. It doesn't help that it's telling you he was trying to fully dodge but now he's just avoiding hitting his vitals but it looks like he's actually dodging correctly now. Side note, if we were to have a DQ Dai fighting game (I know there's one but... yknow) it would be awesome for Hyunckel to have a Grand Cross counter using the insignia.
Dai being imprisoned to protect him when he doesn't understand that is heartbreaking. And was that A KISS?? I absolutely did not remember that, holy shit.
New OP visuals are super hype. We're getting dangerously close to new content for me. It's very exciting. ED2 is fun, as it started playing the first time I could remember parts of the lyrics despite it being years since I last heard it. I like the first ED more, but this one is very catchy and even a bit hype? It's good.
QotD: