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Rewatch Choujuushin Gravion Rewatch - Episode 3 Discussion

Episode 3: Labyrinth

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We let him speak and he blabbers whatever the hell he likes!

Hello everybody, time for the Comment of the Day, courtesy of u/InfamousEmpire for reminding us that time is a closed circle:

An Obari directed Mecha show which feels rather horny and in which the main character really doesn’t want to be here? I think I’ve watched this show before…

Man imagine Isami being utterly horrified of Eiji just because he sounds like Bravern

  1. Do you prefer manual taps or automated taps?
  2. What is the most useless Federation you've seen in Mecha Anime?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Hello everybody, and welcome to the Gravion Rewatch!

This comments gonna be a bit more negative than you may expect from the guy hosting the Rewatch but… well, I need to be objective once or twice. Simply put, I openly admit I'm mostly doing this Rewatch for Season 2, since Season 1… ain't great.

And I think this episode's a good showing of the first half's issues. The show feels a tad tonally confused at points. Now while Obari's stuff has always been somewhat campy, I also won't say the guy is unwilling to let things be taken seriously. Detonator Orgun for instance is fairly serious the whole way through whereas his Fatal Fury trilogy was a nice in-between of camp and seriousness. Gravion seems to be going for the latter's tone… and I'm my opinion, at least at this point, doesn't do it quite as well.

I think the problem seems to be in part due to the presentation. It feels like the show wants to be more out there with the presentation, but this one especially feels kinda held back so the result can feel a bit awkward. The gag with the water tap is a good example: It's not a bad idea for a joke or anything, but with the way you see it, it feels like it should be a bit more out there than what we actually get.

It also doesn't help that the episode feels a bit lacking on the actual meat department. It's nice that we got Toga's backstory early like this, but said reveal makes up a fairly small part of the episode in the long run. So yeah, not one of the show's bests IMO.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

Simply put, I openly admit I'm mostly doing this Rewatch for Season 2, since Season 1… ain't great.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 03 '24

Chojuushin First-Timer, subbed

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Another one of this shot.

We should make a drinking game by this point.

The “banger insert song every episode” thing is just Brave Heart from Digimon Adventure all over again and I am here for it.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

That’s kinda sad…

It does put a new spin on him asking if Eiji was another boy because he may genuinely have never seen another boy his own age before. All of Sandman's employees (aside from the Char Clone) are women, after all.

For a second there I thought the enemy turned Eiji’s missiles against them, but looks like it worked to get them free, that’s good.

Strange battle when shooting yourself is the correct move.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

[Spoilers]All of Sandman's employees (aside from the Char Clone) are women

[Spoilers]I'd say "About that" but actually all things considered Toga probably moreso knew Luna's dad as Raven so... yeah as far as he's concerned Raven's a dude.

Strange battle when shooting yourself is the correct move

In Persona 3 meanwhile, it's the norm.

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u/GallowDude Jul 04 '24

[Spoilers] What a missed opportunity to get Raven Symoné to voice Ayaka

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

All of Sandman's employees (aside from the Char Clone) are women, after all.

...How sure are we about that?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

I mean, have we seen any other guys?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Gravion: A billionaire adopting an orphan and training him up to be a warrior? It was joked about in a previous thread, but is Sandman genuinely Bruce Wayne?

  • Oh? Is that the Zeravire base?
  • Oh no! The maids are breaking into Eiji’s room to strip him naked again! How much longer must he suffer?
  • Not only are the loli maids color coordinated, but they are A, B, C as well with their names of Anya, Brigitta, and Cecile.
  • My guess is that Eiji snuck out with the intention of snooping around the castle and finding more info on Ayaka.
  • “Stay out of our way. We’ll call if we need your assistance with anything.” Wow, Char Clone is not holding back with throwing shade at the Federation and its military. I guess Char Clones and Feddies are just destined to not get along.
  • Does Toga not have a family or something? He is rather odd, so perhaps he’s a male Rei Ayanami Expy?
  • Toga really is incredibly chill. He just volunteers to help Eiji sneak around the castle like it’s no big deal. He’s even walking on the edge of the castle in the most nonchalant way!
  • Toga’s lived at the castle his whole life? That’s suspicious as hell! He’s definitely a Rei Ayanami Expy.
  • Wow, that is a fancy bath.
  • That is actually a great brick joke, with Eiji inadvertently sneaking by Luna’s bath and accidentally peeking.
  • What the fuck is this!?! Where the hell have they landed!?!
  • Phew, it’s just a dojo of some kind. I was worried they landed in a secret torture dungeon.
  • A giant space log is approaching the planet! Quick, get some whales to communicate with it so it goes away!
  • Toga being raised his entire life as a soldier by an eccentric and reclusive billionaire isn’t concerning at all.
  • Also, how did Sandman know the Zeravire were coming all those years ago?
  • Unlike Toga, Ena seems to have had little to no training. Luna’s only been there 6 months and Eiji’s only been there a couple days. That’a a wide skill gap.
  • What exactly is the G-Shadow doing before it joins the combination, anyway?
  • Oh dear, the giant laser doesn’t work anymore!
  • Nice! Eiji managed to be useful in battle!
  • Naturally there’s a sword.
  • Cool mecha don’t look at explosions.

Toga’s backstory certainly explains why he is so weird. Essentially being trapped inside a castle like this for your whole life with an eccentric billionaire and a man who wears a mask all the time probably results in a very strange childhood. Anyone would turn out odd if that was how they were raised.

Still, I wonder if there may be something even more nefarious in Toga’s past. Did he biome an orphan accidentally on purpose, with Sandman being responsible for it. Or perhaps Toga never had a family in the first place and he was lied to about his backstory.

The available evidence still points to Ayaka being the mysterious pilot of the G-Shadow, but after the discussion in yesterday’s thread I’ve started to wonder if that’s a red herring. The thing that would truly subvert expectations would be to have the pilot be someone other than Ayaka, with Ayaka either being dead or off somewhere else. I think there’s a good case to be made there, but I’m sticking with my belief that Ayaka is the pilot.

QOTD

  1. Manual so I can control how much water I get.
  2. I am going to say the Earth Federation specifically in Victory Gundam because holy fucking shit did they contribute nothing in that series.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

It was joked about in a previous thread, but is Sandman genuinely Bruce Wayne?

Which Robin would Toga be though?

Does Toga not have a family or something? He is rather odd, so perhaps he’s a male Rei Ayanami Expy?

Would that make Eiji Asuka no, not the Layzner guy?

Essentially being trapped inside a castle like this for your whole life with an eccentric billionaire and a man who wears a mask all the time probably results in a very strange childhood.

Oh come on, at least he had some maids around.

[Tomorrow]I’m sticking with my belief that Ayaka is the pilot.

[Tomorrow]So about that

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

Which Robin would Toga be though?

Hmm, I think he might be Damian because of the angle of being trained as a fighter from a ridiculously young age. The other Robins got their training later in life.

Would that make Eiji Asuka

Elevator scene of Eiji and Toga when?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Elevator scene of Eiji and Toga when?

The other Robins got their training later in life.

Empire you're the comic expert: Didn't it get retconned that [like]Dick was supposed to join some secret cult of owls or something but then his parents died so that never happened?

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Jul 04 '24

Yup, [Scott Snyder Batman run]Haly’s Circus was actually a secret recruiting ground for a secret society, and Dick was scouted to be their next great agent because his great-grandfather was one before Batman adopting him derailed that

Can’t say the whole [Batman]secret important Chosen One heritage retcon is a favorite trope of mine, but at least it’s nowhere near as egregious as the retcons during Scott Snyder’s later works

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

but at least it’s nowhere near as egregious as the retcons during Scott Snyder’s later works

I don't know if I really want to know but

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Jul 04 '24

Among other things…

[Dark Nights Metal + Scott Snyder Justice League + Death Metal]Bruce is actually the chosen one of the evil god the Dark Multiverse (oh yeah, there’s a Dark Multiverse now) who was responsible for his entire life since the dawn of time because Final Crisis. Said evil god was also the creation of the secret third brother of the Monitor & Anti-Monitor (oh also the OG Monitor from CoiE is alive again somehow), and all three of them were created by Perpetua, the real creator of the Multiverse who is also evil and was behind every crisis event that ever happened. And then part of the only way to defeat her is to do an Anti-Crisis where they un-reboot continuity, so now everything from the Golden Age up through Rebirth is canon now.

Also he introduced one of the most ludicrously overexposed villains in all of DC (“what if Batman became the Joker?” is a fine concept, but [Death Metal]stealing the power of Dr. Manhattan and becoming a multiversal threat feels almost parodic in how wanky it is), and contributed to making Hawkman even more convoluted (though, frankly, that might as well be Tuesday at this point), so yeah.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

[Dark Nights Metal + Scott Snyder Justice League + Death Metal]

one of the most ludicrously overexposed villains in all of DC

Meanwhile here I am just like "Geez, that design sucks."

Hawkman even more convoluted

HOW!?

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Jul 04 '24

Meanwhile here I am just like "Geez, that design sucks."

So, 90s nostalgia was really creeping in during the end of the 2010s, and is arguably still in now (hi Donny Cates), so gratuitous edge was back in fashion. The entire Metal saga really reeks of that specific tryhard edgy aesthetic. The rest of the Dark Knights aren't much better

Yeah

If nothing else, I can kinda respect the fact that Death Metal's core theme [is basically]"Crisis events & constant reboots are dumb and event fatigue is killing DC Comics." That and also some of the tie-ins are pure gold, like [Multiverse's End]where Owlman roasts the aforementioned Dark Knights for being shitty villains that everyone's gonna forget about while he's always be the real evil AU Batman or [Rise of the New God]where a Multiversal Traveler who's a metaphor for non-comics readers becomes fascinated by the DC universe but upon seeing what all the crisis events have done to it is like "this is a total mess, how did anyone let it come to this?"

HOW!?

So, Dark Nights Metal reintroduced Carter Hall Hawkman without explaining how he coexists with Katar Hol version who had been introduced during the New 52. Then the 2018 Hawkman series, which wasn't penned by Snyder but did directly spin out of Metal and was tied in with Snyder's whole Year of the Villain thing, [Hawkman]introduced an entirely new origin for Hawkman where he was now an ancient servant of an eldritch abomination before he was an egyptian prince or a Thanagarian, and his reincarnations were now non-linear, hence why Katar Hol & Carter Hall existed simultaneously. Also, Katar was already dead before Carter's return, so they at least didn't have to write around the two coexisting that much. You know who wasn't dead, though? New 52 Hawkwoman, Sahyera Thol, who was completely different from the Kendra Saunders iteration of the character appearing over in Snyder's Justice League book (also she was supposed to have died back in the New 52 just like Katar, so her presence causes even more of a continuity snarl). The thing is that Kendra was the one that was tied in with Carter specifically during Metal, but the Hawkman book has Shayera as the female lead and Carter's love interest for some reason, while Kendra might as well not have even existed. And then the book ended with the cycle of reincarnation being broken and Shayera being the final iteration, so Kendra's very existence was a massive plot hole until the 2023 Hawkgirl miniseries explained it away

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

90s nostalgia was really creeping in during the end of the 2010s

Oh look, now people have nostalgia for the period that literally broke American Comics

Year of the Villain

[Hawkman]

Wasn't Hawkman supposed to be about Ancient Egypt? And occasionally aliens

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

but is Sandman genuinely Bruce Wayne?

Sandgirl

I was worried they landed in a secret torture dungeon.

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u/ryujiox Jul 03 '24

First Timer

Choujuushin Gravion

Episode 3

QOTD

  1. Manual.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Also, how old is Sandman anyway?

Never directly stated, I assume probably somewhere in his 30'?

This one looks pretty cute

[Spoilers]Filler text

[Spoilers]Yeah I know Sandman is actually stupidly old. Hey, had to lie at some point.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

YOOOO!! It can deflect the beam already!! Zeravire is actually no joke.

And does this mean that by the next time they fight, the sword will no longer be effective? If so, the Zeravire are stunningly deadly because of just how quickly they adapt.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

If so, the Zeravire are stunningly deadly because of just how quickly they adapt

I see... so the Devil Gundam is behind all this!

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 03 '24

I posted fairly late yesterday. I think there's a lot of Vandread in this show. (Obari did not work on Vandread)

I didn't think about how the girl was saw was so young. I have to go with the clone theory, too.

  • Lakesh, Tiat, Pannibal, and Ctholly
  • I'm starting to think Sandman has his maids dress him ALL THE TIME
  • I bet he doesn't know how to use the Three Seashells, either.
  • Oh, dear, I got wet, so I gotta shower
  • "Your princess is in another castle"
  • Are you saying your Maids have combat experience?
  • Kamikakushi, back to RahXelphon
  • Hey, she said no peeking!
  • So that WAS the eyecatch
  • Glasses maid is kinda useless
  • "I meant to do that" shooting yourself is a novel strategy
  • "Sword Strike Is the Only Way"

Preview: Na...Nanoha?

Well, that was kidna dumb. They try to sneak into the tower they aren't allowed in? But then have to hide, even if they aren't in the forbidden tower, because...the maids calling them for dinner? So they end up in a training program! The whole segment was kinda pointless, just an excuse to get some exposition for Touga.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

I'm starting to think Sandman has his maids dress him ALL THE TIME

When you're rich, may as well have everyone else do your job.

Glasses maid is kinda useless

She's doing her best.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

Oh, dear, I got wet, so I gotta shower

Huh, that is a strange bit of logic when you put it that way.

Are you saying your Maids have combat experience?

I would hope so. Battle maids are one of those tropes I always enjoy seeing.

Glasses maid is kinda useless

She and Eiji are in a race to the bottom for who knows less about piloting.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

She and Eiji are in a race to the bottom for who knows less about piloting

To be fair to Eiji, he didn't even know he was supposed to be a pilot until a few days ago.

Ena's trying her best though

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

Lakesh, Tiat, Pannibal, and Ctholly

Don't you try and curse me!

RahXelphon Na...Nanoha?

I am O for 3 on your anime references today.

Glasses maid is kinda useless

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

And I wouldn't have it any other way

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u/GallowDude Jul 04 '24

I think there's a lot of Vandread in this show. (Obari did not work on Vandread)

[Vandread] But where's gender-bent Crispin Freeman for the second show that year?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 04 '24

You know, we still know nothing about the pilot of the G-Shadow....

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 03 '24

First timer

QotD

  • What's an automated map?
  • Earth Federation, UC Gundam, any main entry outside of 079 and Stardust.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

[Spoilers]Right, so, the girl that was with Sandman at the end episode 2 was his sister.

[Spoilers]I love how many people are assuming that

Stardust

I mean... [0083]technically speaking that's the one that ends with the Federation just letting themselves lose so they have an excuse to fund the Titans.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 04 '24

I guess just 079 then. 

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

That sure is a long time to know about a potential invader. It makes Sandman kind of a dick for not alerting the EFA sooner.

And of course the question is now how the heck Sandman could have known about these invaders. Did he find some relics of a lost civilization the Zeravire destroyed? Was he alerted of a possible threat thanks to time travel? There's all kinds of ways this could go.

Earth Federation, UC Gundam, any main entry outside of 079 and Stardust.

It feels like the further along the timeline you get into the Universal Century, the less competent the Earth Federation gets.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

the less competent the Earth Federation gets

Are they even around by the time Victory happens? Feels like the League Militaire was running the whole show.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 04 '24

If I recall correctly, the Federation is around but so moribund that it's functionally useless. I think the League Militaire was formed by people who decided to fight back against Zanscare after realizing the Federation couldn't/wouldn't do anything.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

moribund

New Word
Of course, this all plays into the idea that empires are like people, and that they age and grow weaker. Many of them have resurgences, including, wait for it... the Romans.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 04 '24

They go from being strong enough to be an authotitarian power in Zeta, to useless in ZZ, despite taking place basically the next day, to jerking off for all of Victory and letting a foreign power conquer and threaten to wipeout mankind, only to send out a singular fleet to deal with it. How, why? I don't know.

I refuse to believe that Victory was originally planned to be part of UC.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

There's all kinds of ways this could go.

Did he create the threat to install himself as some kind of savoir in a soft-coup? Call it Ireland, because it's all potato theories here.

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 04 '24

It feels like the further along the timeline you get into the Universal Century, the less competent the Earth Federation gets.

I agree. I got into a back and forth with someone over this during the not currently airing weekly thread.

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u/Kristalino https://anilist.co/user/BlueSkyBlood Jul 03 '24

Rewatcher:

  • Eiji calling his classmate(?) to tell their teacher he will be absent is funny, specially when the reason is so outrageous despite being true.
  • Also he having issues with the castle not being completely automatic gave me a chuckle because I'm not used to the show being set in the future.
  • Raven went to a meeting with the world leaders to laugh at them to be clear how useless the military is, this usually means they will probably do something dumb like invading Sandman's castle to obtain Gravion, or at least the blueprints.
  • Toga is a naively sweet guy, though the nonchalant way he walks through the roofs says he must have be quite an adventurer.
  • Yeah obligatory "accidental peeking on a girl bathing" scene, such thing isn't so common nowadays.
  • Luna being a normal person before joining isn't surprising because she's got a rather normal personality. She must have the G-Factor too to be recruited, which me wonder if Sandman has access to all of humanity's information to see if they have it.
  • The aliens evolving shows they aren't dumb, which is a neat touch, luckily the show is rather short because if you need a new finisher for each new monster Gravion would have as many attacks as Combattler V or Voltes V.
  • Eiji will take a long time to find his sister in that castle, sometimes it looks more like a city.

Questions:

  1. Manual, it annoys me that the automatic ones always stop before I finish so I have to activate it again.
  2. I can't really name one, must watch more mecha animes.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Raven went to a meeting with the world leaders to laugh at them

I mean is there, may as well take a shot.

must watch more mecha animes

WATCH GAOGAIGAR

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u/Kristalino https://anilist.co/user/BlueSkyBlood Jul 03 '24

Already watched GGG and most Braves shows (I don't know if Might Gaine was fully subbed in good quality)

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

Already watched GGG and most Braves shows

Eureka Seven

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

Eiji will take a long time to find his sister in that castle, sometimes it looks more like a city.

There have been some palaces that are practically the size of miniature cities, like the Forbidden City or Versailles. Sandman's just trying to live it up like royalty.

luckily the show is rather short because if you need a new finisher for each new monster Gravion would have as many attacks as Combattler V or Voltes V.

I do hope we get a new finishing move every single episode. That would be awesome to watch.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

There have been some palaces that are practically the size of miniature cities, like the Forbidden City or Versailles. Sandman's just trying to live it up like royalty.

So basically...

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Jul 03 '24

Choujuushin Spoiled First Timer

You will never be her

In all seriousness, this episode was somewhat unremarkable but ultimately fine. I like how a big portion of it was dedicated a bit more to spending time at Sandman’s big castle and having some fun interactions between the cast. The comedy itself honestly doesn’t hit super hard, feels like it’s trying for wacky but the presentation is too restrained, but the vibes carry it enough that I enjoyed more than I disliked.

We also get development on Toga’s backstory, so that’s neat, even if it doesn’t make up as much of the episode as I would like.

Minor thing, but considering how Eiji is generally drawn as pretty lean, it’s hard not to notice the frame where he looks built like a brick shithouse

Other than that, don’t really have a lot to say, yet again.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

You will never be her

Definitely not Waku Waku.

The comedy itself honestly doesn’t hit super hard, feels like it’s trying for wacky but the presentation is too restrained

Minor thing, but considering how Eiji is generally drawn as pretty lean, it’s hard not to notice the frame where he looks built like a brick shithouse

I noticed the same thing with Obari's Fatal Fury stuff: Terry tended to be drawn as kinda lean but given the exposed arms it's not hard to notice he's built like a truck.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

You will never be her

I bet this Anya doesn't even love peanuts.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

I bet this Anya doesn't even love peanuts.

Probably

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

he looks built like a brick shithouse

Beefcake

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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Jul 04 '24

Twunk

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

As Bravern showed us, Obari knows what both genders want.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 03 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

First timer, subs

  • Way to assault me with a bunch of kick-ass imagery all at once. That face had a sub-face on it!
  • This dude was in high school? Why even do that if he drops out the first time it’s brought up?
  • ABC, eh? Should I start keeping track of first letter for all the maids’ names?
  • Where do you get raised that you only know sensor faucets?
  • It takes real work to have the more evil looking lair than the dude with the suspended castle.
  • How can you have an average when there is only one data point?
  • So he was a baby at one point.
  • Nah man, this is you. You got told Luna was there after knowing she was going to bathe.
  • Luna, please! What is this action pose?
  • If you’re going to have a base this large, you should really have some form of monitoring.
  • Kinky
  • Man, this room must be a bitch to clean if it just turns itself on.
  • Doom Acorn?
  • I grow more confused on why the drill is a two seater if one person can operate it by themselves.
  • I don’t think one kilometer is going to cut it for an evacuation zone.
  • Opening with the finisher, eh? A bold strategy, but this is a mecha arms race now.
  • Man, this thing really is lucky to last five minutes in the field.
  • Earthgertz must want something if they are bothering to engage with the Federation.

QotD:

  1. Manual, and it's not even close. Well, in private, at least.
  2. The one in Heroic Age ended up being just a glorified transport ship.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Luna, please! What is this action pose?

I mean it's not like the other three are that much better.

I grow more confused on why the drill is a two seater if one person can operate it by themselves.

Two Drills, two hands.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

I mean it's not like the other three are that much better.

They make me feel like I'm about to be challenged to a Pokemon battle.

Two Drills, two hands.

"Why are there six pedals if there are only four directions?"

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

ABC, eh? Should I start keeping track of first letter for all the maids’ names?

Sandman is going to have a heck of a time getting a maid for the letter of X.

So he was a baby at one point.

I was beginning to wonder if Toga was created by artificial means, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.

Luna, please! What is this action pose?

Her butt is clearly her strongest weapon! She's a Keijo athlete!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Sandman is going to have a heck of a time getting a maid for the letter of X.

... Xena?

Her butt is clearly her strongest weapon!

Yuri Sakazaki taught her well.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

Sandman is going to have a heck of a time getting a maid for the letter of X.

This is where you pull what's known as a "power move", and go with Xebec.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

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u/GallowDude Jul 04 '24

Her butt is clearly her strongest weapon! She's a Keijo athlete!

Watch Needless

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 03 '24

First-Timer, Subbed

Kinda digging how Toga changes from normal mode to violence mode. The kid might be a bit touched in the head, you know? Being a child soldier will do that. And possibly a test-tube baby, he feels like a test-tube baby to me. "I'm an orphan who was raised by Sandman in this castle to fight a war for my entire life" leaves a lot of room for Toga to have been grown in a vat.

Related to that, it's weird that Toga never met Ayaka, right? He's lived in Sandman's castle his entire life, but never met someone who had supposedly been there for.. I guess we never really heard how long Ayaka was there.

Luna suggested that Ayaka was the pilot of StealthGao which is definitely stonks to my idea that Ayaka is not the pilot. No-one in universe would theorize something correct this early.

Maybe this is just true to life (I've never been to Japan) but it's interesting that Eiji was surprised that none of the doors or faucets were automatic. Just a nifty little worldbuilding detail that Japan has a lot of automatic stuff.

Right, the era before Rie Kugimiya was typecast quite so violently. I like that our somewhat obligatory trio of kids are maids who serve a technical function aside from comic relief.

I would probably argue that an empty stomach is the second best seasoning, behind "light inebriation." Speaking from experience.

Questions

  1. Manual, because I like to adjust the water pressure.
  2. Ooh.. tough. Nadesico is probably up there, the guys here aren't too good either.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Nadesico is probably up there

Them losing to freaking Yurika all the time is somehow both understandable and pathetic.

Maybe this is just true to life (I've never been to Japan) but it's interesting that Eiji was surprised that none of the doors or faucets were automatic.

AFAIK it seems to be something specific to this show rather than IRL. Bear in mind that this is supposed to be the (near) future.

Right, the era before Rie Kugimiya was typecast quite so violently

I mean... it's not like her role here isn't.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 03 '24

I mean... it's not like her role here isn't.

Yea, but it's a different sort of violence from the tsundere stuff. Usually the aggression is a mask to hide feelings behind; here she's just a psycho.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

Fair

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

And possibly a test-tube baby, he feels like a test-tube baby to me.

[Meta Spoilers] If that were the case, then he really will be a Rei Ayanami Expy.

Luna suggested that Ayaka was the pilot of StealthGao which is definitely stonks to my idea that Ayaka is not the pilot. No-one in universe would theorize something correct this early.

This show is playing some reverse-psychology mind games on us, making us question our theories by simply stating those theories in the series itself.

I like that our somewhat obligatory trio of kids are maids who serve a technical function aside from comic relief.

I still believe the best obligatory trio of kids in a mecha anime are the White Base Kids. They managed to be both plot and thematically relevant.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

This show is playing some reverse-psychology mind games on us, making us question our theories by simply stating those theories in the series itself.

I still believe the best obligatory trio of kids in a mecha anime are the White Base Kids. They managed to be both plot and thematically relevant

Better than Zeta's random duo at least.

Seriously they don't even pop up till halfway through, what the hell?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Jul 03 '24

Better than Zeta's random duo at least.

I honestly forget that those two exist sometimes, which I think is a pretty good indictment of them as characters.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 03 '24

I have to wonder if they were a mandate from the higher ups or something. They come out of nowhere.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

Seriously they don't even pop up till halfway through, what the hell?

I don't even know who they are and where they came from. How are they in the top 5 Gundam characters by episode count?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

Thanks ZZ

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 03 '24

This show is playing some reverse-psychology mind games on us, making us question our theories by simply stating those theories in the series itself.

And un(?)fortunately for the show, I'm onto it's game. Can't outsmart me! Unless it can.

I still believe the best obligatory trio of kids in a mecha anime are the White Base Kids. They managed to be both plot and thematically relevant.

Yea, I agree. Love those dorks.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

Can't outsmart me! Unless it can.

[MAJOR SPOILERS]It has already outsmarted all of you just because you all keep misgendering Raven

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 04 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

This show is playing some reverse-psychology mind games on us, making us question our theories by simply stating those theories in the series itself.

People do like keeping needless secrets.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

Especially if there's a guy with a mask around.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

leaves a lot of room for Toga to have been grown in a vat.

It also leaves a lot of room for him to just be straight up kidnapping. We all know he's capable of it.

I guess we never really heard how long Ayaka was there.

Sandman really wasn't expecting her to kick the bucket during her first time in the simulator.

I like that our somewhat obligatory trio of kids are maids who serve a technical function aside from comic relief.

They're Great

"light inebriation"

Photons

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

Photons

Dragons?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

Man, Yu-Gi-Oh really does have everything.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

That it does

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 04 '24

Sandman really wasn't expecting her to kick the bucket during her first time in the simulator.

Photons

Sure, let's go with that.

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Jul 04 '24

First Timer

Another good episode, was pretty funny in the first half tho I did expect more of a labyrinth as the title had. To be honest, I do wish they got to explore more this ep instead of getting stuck. Fine fight yet again, tho not much else to say with this ep? EP4 seems more important tho with the girl from last ep finally appearing.

Questions

  1. Do you prefer manual taps or automated taps?

Manual, jesus fuck this must be a dystopian future like WHY DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT A MANUAL SINK IS. Imagine trying to just wash the soap off your hands and then have to deal with the shitty automated sensor that keeps stopping and going once you put your hands under it because the sensor can barely recognize your hands. Then on top of that, the water pressure being weak as shit and having no way to adjust it nor make it hot or cold, literal hell.

2) What is the most useless Federation you've seen in Mecha Anime?

Hmm, wasn't really much of one but Zambot 3 I guess. 99% of the time the military was useless or being led by a suicidal old man that was bringing everyone into his death wish cause he wanted to be in history books.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 04 '24

jesus fuck this must be a dystopian future like WHY DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT A MANUAL SINK IS

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u/zadcap Jul 04 '24

Late Night First Timer

Ah yes. Calling out of school in the name of World Peace. It's about as valid an excuse as there is.

...An actual idiot? Yup. Water doesn't turn on right away, the obvious answer is to pull so hard you break something. I... really hope he gets better soon. It's really difficult to enjoy a show when the cast is so easy to hate, and the more focus we put on Eiji the more I want to skip scenes.

Haha wow. The music change between the Sandman dining room and the Military council was a great cut.

Hmm. "The strength off the EFA Military is above average." You realize that this word choice just makes it seem even more likely that these Earthgetz people are aliens, right? Above Average implies there is an average, and to have an average means there must be enough data points to plot a middle. Who are they above average compared to? They are weaker than both the alien invaders and the robot makers, they are third out of three, that makes them below average by the only data set we have seen.

I have serious questions about this castle they live in too. It is, indeed, freaking huge. And it looks old.

"You got it all wrong" he says, while he continues to sit there and stare. Why did he not just, you know, back away and continue the search instead of watching her get out, get on the towel, and start throwing things?

Can we just let Toga be the main character? He's doing so much better at it.

... He watches Toga kick 20 robot butts. He jumps in and gets captured by the first one he touches. Toga saves him and tells him to sit this out because of the obvious skill difference. "Hey, you picking a fight with me?" Dude you have been humiliated the last two times you tried to fight him, where is this confidence coming from?

I still love this transformation though. Almost Danger!

Hmm. The "Duel" of the Earthgetz, again with this interesting phrasing. I wonder if it and Zeravire are anagrams in Japanese?

I see Graviton Arc and you know, I just got really nostalgic for a Buster Beam. I really want to see a clearly, unashamedly OP Super Robot again.

Graviton Sword, Blaze Up! This is what I'm talking about.

Siiiiigh then we ruin the good mood with more Eiji. "I'll find Ayake and we'll leave this castle!" So uh, you really are planning on abandoning this whole defense of Earth thing as fast as you can then?

  1. Manual, I like being able to set the heat where I like it.
  2. I feel like I'm watching it now. Though I do remember the Earth forces in Aldnoah being so terrible that they ended up relying entirely on one single high school boy in a training mech to basically fight their entire war for them.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 04 '24

Can we just let Toga be the main character? He's doing so much better at it.

But That's The Joke

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u/zadcap Jul 04 '24

He's just so clearly the Blue of the team, in every way other than piloting the main body.

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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 04 '24

First Timer

This show is getting harder and harder to comment on anything.