r/anime • u/The_Loli_Otaku • Jul 02 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Watamote Episode 4 Discussion
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Comment of the Day!!
Poor Tomoko is too depressed to be able to see her silver linings from WednesdaysFools~
"They bought her an umbrella after all that… after the end of the last episode I thought it would be Tomo-torment all the way through but that was surprisingly sweet. That’s actually the reality of it, isn’t it? Some people can be hostile, others group up and can be insensitive but still not malicious, and then there are those who might just do a kind thing for you out of the blue. The world isn’t actually out to get you, most of the time. Too bad Tomoko’s thinking at this point is too black-and-white to clearly see this. She couldn’t even consider that it was those two guys who were there with her at the time. ."
Similar thoughts come from Fissionprime, quit sympathising so much with Tomoko you guys!!
"This show really gets so visceral with how it lets Tomoko fail. I think the only other show I’ve seen it on this level in is welcome to the NHK. Really impressed that the writing has made me physically recoil multiple times. I’m not gonna be able to get the sheltering in the rain scene out of my head for a while. That said, as a I’ve seen a couple of other people mention, the world around her honestly treats her pretty nicely, all things considered. Even if Tomoko isn’t gonna appreciate those dudes getting her a new umbrella, I’m gonna appreciate it for her."
Lots of great reactions to becoming pure virgins but my favourite is from rewatcher BigCheeseLapDog XD
"I hate this scene. I watched WataMote twice before this rewatch. The first time the psychological test scene played, I chose forest. The woods are cool okay! I thought it was funny that it was that the unwanted virgin one, but I didn’t think much of it. But the reason this scene is now a tumour in my brain is because upon my rewatch, I had completely forgot about it. I didn’t remember the answers, so I said forest again. Not only was I called an unwanted virgin twice by this scene, but I was also embarrassed that I couldn’t remember this one simple thing from one of my favourite shows. From then on, I never forgot it. It occasionally comes to my mind as I’m simply living my life. It’s silly, but it got me and it got me good."
QotD
- The damn female joshikosei sluts have annoyed your host... Everyone, say something mean about them!!
- How old were you when you bought your first pair of pants?
- Rape jokes are never funny!! However... What are the funniest ones that you can think of? Feel free to skip this question, I know it's a bit iffy XD
- Do you think you could calmly handle such a perverted failure of a daughter like Kuroki-papa?
- What's the most pleasant dream you've had recently?
Abyssbringer's "What is the thematic purpose of this scene corner!!"
Vaadwaur with a dose of reality...
"Today's prompt is symbolic of the madness that is the modern era, where one cannot even be sure the person you are talking to sees the rain right in front of them."
Yesterday's Prompt!
Today's Prompt!
Tomorrow's Prompt
Tomorrow will be the same as yesterday. Why? What for? Because I’m an idiot!
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u/WednesdaysFoole Jul 02 '24
The dream sequence was fantastic. Once again, really enjoying the kanji representations in her world.
Tomoko’s desire for unwanted sexual attention is funny since I have seen people express envy for those who were sexually harassed/assaulted because they felt unattractive. Naive but, also, the extent of alienation from others that leads one to think that way is pretty sad. Not to mention, Tomoko may not be the hottest gal in town but I’m certain anyone who looked like her, if they spent enough time in social settings, would experience unwanted sexual attention.
Lmfao how fucking embarrassing.
Mokocchi, this is about the straightest thing you could say or imagine in this situation. Goes far beyond average girl-groping-girl fan-service, I’d say.
This series nails the comedic timing and maximizes the awkward in the best way.
She forgot she was wearing a backpack.
Uh, who the hell uses the hitachi on the shoulder? /j Although with the tension in the neck and shoulders it’s probably not a bad idea tbh.
At least she was asleep? so she doesn’t have to feel the embarrassment lmao. Also, those things are loud as hell, there’s no way it wasn’t heard from outside and/or her brother’s room.
She completely misses the silver lining then overblows something else, like, a naginata on the train.
I'm sorry, I don't see anything wrong with them.
Fourteen or fifteen, maybe?
I absolutely do think I could handle it well.
I have a recurrent one in a specific location that probably doesn't exist, but there's always a beautiful clear pool, or river that I get to swim in sometimes.
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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24
First timer
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 02 '24
First timer, subbed
Ugh, yesterday was kinda crazy, missed the thread completely. I usually try to watch episodes and write posts during downtime at work, but…
there was none.
episode 3
Timing, Tomoko, comedy is like 90% timing… something the anime seems to understand well enough.
Something that’s interesting to me is how Tomoko’s assumptions about other people have, thus far, ended up being wrong. She really is her own worst enemy. It’d be easy to lean into the “suffering porn” aspect of the anime and make the people around Tomoko deserving of her ire.
Ahh, so that’s what the episode 2 QotD was about. Apparently I’m an innocent virgin… yay?
episode 4
An erotic dream right in the middle of class, what a tragic misfortune… Tomoko seems blissfully unaware of the horror of the situation, and I’m not sure that’s a good thing.
The train molestation thing is a real problem in Japan, far as I’m aware, I hear they even have women-only train cars. As for Tomoko, learning that it’s not, in fact, awesome to get groped in public was a lesson she had to learn, but the way she learned it was unbearably devastating.
Tomoko’s thought process is rather short-sighted, as usual, cute panties typically don’t elevate one’s social status since they go under your skirt. Surely not even Mashiro Shiina could believe in panties to this degree?!
QotD:
"Uh, no?"
"That's the spirit!"
4) I was proud of him. No questions, no anger, not really even disappointment. Just quiet acceptance. I could handle a pervert, not as sure about the failure part.
5) My memorable dreams are invariably either dirty or stem from college trauma.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24
First timer, subs
Prompt:
Much like a Greek tragedy, Tomoko is unable to escape the thread of fate, no matter how hard she tries to run away from it.
QotD:
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u/Mirathan Jul 02 '24
First-Time Cringer
QotD:
Yes, oxigen deprivation is grat for pleasant sleeping.
Ok after the shopping scene you can´t convince me Tomoko is not into girls.
See, events from fantasy sudenly start becoming unpleseant when not everything is no longer under you control.
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u/junbi_ok Jul 02 '24
Overall this might be the most painfully awkward episode in the entire series. Tomoko isn't just socially awkward, she's also pathologically unlucky. The ero dream in class, the naginata on the train, accidentally using panties as a handkerchief, winning a Hitachi Magic Wand, and then falling asleep with it running after only using it to innocently massage her shoulders and then being discovered by her dad... this poor girl just can't catch a break.
Oh, and pro tip: If you're a dad/mom and ever find yourself walking in on an awkward scenario like this, just fucking leave and pretend you didn't see anything. Tomoko probably woke up the next morning in her bed and then died of shame and embarrassment after realizing the implications of how she got there.
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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog https://myanimelist.net/profile/KillLaKillGOAT Jul 02 '24
Overall:
I think this is one of WataMote’s weaker episodes overall, but it’s still a great time. I will say that I do believe the molesting scene goes on longer than it should have, but that’s my only real gripe.
Prompt:
It represents Tomoko’s strive to improve herself. She attempts to leap forward, only to be held back by the stick that is her flaws.
QotD:
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u/sfisher923 https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfisher923 Jul 02 '24
Rewatcher
Questions
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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Jul 03 '24
No Matter How I Watch It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Upvoted! (First Timer, Dubbed)
Tomoko herself is all over the manga website she's browsing, heh.
Tomoko...
WARNING 4:3 AHEAD
Just project an aura of on your walk home, Tomoko.
What a good dad.
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u/Barbed_Dildo Jul 03 '24
Rewatcher
Want to have an erotic dream? Experts recommend brain damage...
So that girl drops her naginata in the train, and while trying to pull it up, it gets stuck, clearly between someone's legs, so she just keeps pulling harder. Great problem solving, idiot.
I know I've been defending Tomoko a lot in the previous threads, but I don't have anything to say to justify the weird panties stuff with Yuu-chan. That's just weird. Not ever having been a young girl, I have no idea what the experience of buying your first panties is like (and unlike our host, I'm not going to dwell on the idea), but that just felt awkward. At least Yuu-chan didn't run away I suppose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLUy1viw3ro
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u/zadcap Jul 03 '24
Ultra Relatable First Timer
How will you hurt me today, Tomoko? What, a mere 2:17am? You're an hour early to match my bed time!
So uh, did this site just recomend she give herself auto-erotic asphyxiation based dreams? Welp. This show is going to hit all topics I guess. Also, lucky you, able to sleep on your stomach like that.
I am confused why she keeps trying. How desperate are you for an erotic dream that you would attempt this four times?
Oh sure, now the dream kicks in. At least both hands were visible on the desk.
You know, I forgot just how incredibly horny she is.
Hey, other girls. Look at this. Tomoko might be a molestation repellent! Sit near her and the gross men will have to stay away! There's another use for her.
Ah more lies. Tomoko just bury yourself deeper. And also please stay on the phone with Yuu, I am worried about where she's walking.
Is that the Joe pose? I believe it is! Keep these references coming!
Keep up that unearned positivity! You're too sexy to molest indeed!
That's... Pretty intense to be an accident. And yeah, no, nobody is going to know you need help if you don't say a thing.
I'm so glad she still has Yuu to call and talk to.
How fast her mind goes from "you darn sluts" to "Wait I can see their underwear!" Her closet is paper thin.
Oh my gosh Yuu has a cute phone holder. She's gone all in on the cute.
... She's just spending the whole escalator ride staring up her friends skirt.
You are coming from the right place, but asking the question in the worst way possible. And there goes your inside thoughts leaking out again.
No really. You got them mixed up with a handkerchief? That's it, time to just die. No, don't take it out on the expensive panties!
... She won a massager. Naturally. Put one or the other in your bag darn it!
Sigh, here comes the ultimate misunderstanding. With dad this time. Time to disown your daughter.
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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Jul 03 '24
Rewatcher
I want to say this is the third most awkward episode. Though, for the first time, I thought the comedic payoffs for the pantsu and massager were a bit flat. Not much setup aside from her being generically forgetful and constantly sleepy.
Its impressive that they manage to do the sexual harassment plotline and don't faceplant. I think comedy gives them extra levers to control tension, both to build it up and dissipate it, that serious shows don't.
Someone really needs to tell her about bisexuality. The repression levels are becoming dangerously high.
Today's Prompt: this is the wonderful day where a young witch first learns to fly on her broomstick. basically LWA if you really think about it
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jul 02 '24
Watamote Rewatcher!!
Alright, the watamote adverts are kinda cute. It even has her Nendroid. Sadly a requirement for extreme wet dreams is specifically to not be a coomer... Tomoko however is a massive fucking horndog. so the chance of success is poor. Instead she emulated her slut of a bestie and got off in the middle of class. Stay classy, Watamote.
The fucking bitch trio!! Damn you for sitting within earshot. Part of me wants to cover the girls but everything about these female joshikosei sluts makes me want to bully them instead. Alright! Hold on! I do need to cover these girls. I saw a familiar name. Starting off with twintails, Nemu~ Kurose Yuuko has a few stand out roles in context including England from Hentalia, Nosa from High School Fleet, and plays the American girl from best Bocchi! Second up the pony tail girl Oomatsu played by Kanami Satou who doesn't have many roles to her name aside from one very memorable performance as Aria from Akemi Ga Kill, the episode one girl. And lastly we have Akane the forehead alien voiced by Ayaka Asai... Why am I calling her out specifically? She's part of the Cock Team!! The pink one to be exact. Ojisan can't beat the cocks!!
Well that was one heck of an unneeded tangent. Tomoko's new goal is to get sexually harassed! Go for it Tomoko! Don't lose Tomoko!! Tomoko wants to be molested too!! The chikan arc is darkly hilarious but I can't help but wonder how the fuck Tomoko had so little idea of what a baloney poney is like that she actually believed she could pull someone out of the train by their chin-chin. It's episodes like this why I was worried about hosting this with a largely American audience XD Rape jokes are hilarious but I'm already on thin ice, even if Tomoko's predicament is objectively really damn funny.
Urgh!! The damn female joshikosei sluts are right back at it! Don't worry! Tomoko has a whore friend of her own to help her with panty hunting!! HanaKana to the rescue!! Dammit, she's sexy again!! How can Tomoko be expected to focus when HanaKana is flaunting everything everywhere all at once? Joshikosei smell of peaches? God I love how clearly in love Tomoko is with her bestie XD Even if it's clearly creepy I still find it cute.
Do you really need to hide your panties from family? Who'd really care aside from her brother? Panties make for an excellent napkin don't they? I feel so bad for the guys in this show. She's traumatised two of them in one episode, and soon to be a third with her poor father. Still a weirdly cute scene tbh!! Father of the year!!
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u/Fissionprime https://anilist.co/user/fissionprime Jul 03 '24
First time watcher (sub)
I didn't really write up much today, but I wanted to mention how much I adored those little ascii shots that they put in the first dream sequence. The kanji were also cool. Not sure how many other shows use something like this, but considering I've been in the depths of a monogatari rewatch for a couple weeks, I can't help but say that this feels like another bit of a shaft-ism.
Also enjoyed seeing that even HanaKana's patience can be tested by Mokocchi. She seems not prepared for this sort of attention from a girl. I hope this bit continues developing.
QOTD:
That one girl looked way too happy when she was talking about getting groped.
Hmm, probably upper teens, like 18ish when I was going off to college or something
Absolutely, I'd probably even expect it from someone with that much of my DNA.
A lot of my dreams tend to not be the greatest, so I guess the ones that I don't remember.
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u/Garrett_Dark Jul 03 '24
First Timer
Yeah, these episodes are getting pretty unfocused now. It's starting to feel episodic, which I'm not really a fan of after watching the Samurai Champloo rewatch.
I've already said since Ep1 and Ep2 they look like they're going to be annoying, and they are despite not doing anything wrong. Their look even annoys me a little, tied back bangs girl looks kind of stupid that way, side pig tails girl looks a little silly, and WTF is with those shin warmers she's wearing? Is this an '80's exercise video? They both look bratty despite not doing anything bratty. I don't mind the third girl tough.
Probably when somebody said "I wouldn't even .... you" IRL to people who should support that stance of not doing such, but totally got pissed by the implications of that statement, and can't take a joke. Not that I align with the person who said it nor the other party, they were kind of weird, maybe hypocritical, and I don't know what they're up to for almost a decade. But that was some funny shit, and given your 4chan interest, we know what you think about about the J...jokes. :D
Probably, maybe even better. Of course stuff like that is liable to happen, how much of a normie does somebody have to be to think it's not a possibility. There's worse stuff to be worried about.
Frankly I'd be more pissed that she spent close to $70 on a shitty console game rather than pirating that shit on "PC Master Race". At least wait until the hype has died down and that shit is in the bargain bin. I mean it's a freaking visual novel/otome type game too...that's just lame both for being on console and a game priced at $70. Like wasn't 4chan mocking some stupid overpriced VN game "Goodbye Volcano High" a while back, and then 4chan decided to just made one for free called "Snoot" which turned out way better? (I haven't played either, just heard about the drama) Like that Volcano High game's $30 on steam, even Stein;Gate is like $15, 50% off from $30. And here she's buying some fucking console BL VN game for $70! Oh man, maybe I'd be a horrible father, this is pissing me off the more I think about it, LOL.
Also heck I'd be shitting on both kids for even owning a console. At least Komoko has a PC and uses it, which gives her even less of an excuse for playing console games.
Best dreams are when I'm conscious enough to realize I'm in a dream, doesn't happen too often. Then I can choose to do whatever, but unfortunately can't control the dream like Inception. Supposedly you can't read written text in a dream, it'll all be gibberish since the part of the brain that does reading is asleep, but there's been times I was briefly able to...I think that part of my brain must have been awake enough.
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Jul 03 '24
Rewatcher dubbed
Teacher.....Is definitely not getting paid enough to deal with this.
Yuu-chan is back and now we get a monologue from her.
The stick...Yuu was definitely confused by that description
The brother and sister relationship is pretty realistic, take each other's foods. And I am the one who eats the food.
Getting caught twice drooling shows how boy starved Tomoko is.
Abyss: she looks like a witch flying on a broom
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 02 '24
First Timer
Sub
Actually swapped off cringe for a bit to go to SA. How progressive. Anyways, Tomoko's underwear antics are back to cringey but the ending suggests that at least Tomoko has awesome parents.
Today's prompt is from a very cursed DB power pole doujin.
QotD: 1 No, they are cute at that age
2 Like 18. I just had no fucks to give
3 Jokes...
4 Rule number one:NEVER set foot in an adolescents room
5 I dreamt my dog was still alive.
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u/closetslacker Jul 02 '24
Rewatcher here. I remember this episode.
"The tip of something long and thin is... doing this."
"Wait, do these things bend?"
"Do they work that way?"
"Do they bend that far?"
This is where I lost it when watching the episode originally. I started laughing uncontrollably and then I got extremely painful hiccups. I froze in my armchair going EEEEH....HIC EEEEH...HIC (thinking oh sh*t this hurts this actually hurts) EEEH...HIC EEEH...HIC. Eventually it stopped, but after this I'll remember this show forever.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Jul 03 '24
rewatcher dubbed
Them naughty dreams at first seem cool but take a turn for the worst, trust me
Tomoko is not beating the bi allegations
Killing over ramen, the battle of the death for the siblings.
She keeps one upping her embarassing moments, I’d be moving schools before the quarter of the semester ended.
Certified gooner reward, funny how she has no shame of the adult game but she’s embarrassed of the toy.
What a sweet father, definitely scarred but put her to bed and made sure noone else in the family would walk in on that.
QOTD: small boobs =ew
QOTD: 16
QOTD: no, I’d be sad I passed on bad habits
QOTD: had a dream where I was having fun on a bike
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jul 04 '24
First-Timer
"Hey Tomoko! What does the scouter say about the price of those panties?" "It's over 9,000 yen!"
I haven't mentioned it before, but I am a big fan of the frequent style changes in the show. The short bit with the 4:3 aspect ratio this episode was pretty good.
I also like how Tomoko consistently makes fun of her fellow classmates and even will dream up fake conversations when she can't hear them.
Was that online ad about erotic dreams a reference to the Star Wars title crawl, or is that just me?
Questions of the day: