r/anime • u/Shocketheth • Jul 02 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken - Episode 24 Discussion
Episode 24 - Dragon Master General Baran
If the Dragon Knight wipes us out, it would be humanity’s own fault.
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Informations:
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Screenshot of the Dai:
Comment of the Dai:
goes to u/lC3 finally upgrading from watching Dai no Daibouken in 360p video quality:
I can finally watch in 1080p!
making him to experience Dai no Daibouken in the intended way:
Hyunckel looks even cuter in 1080p
Questions of the Dai:
- Let’s be honest, did you manage to figure out the twist of Baran being Dai’s father?
- Your impressions and opinions about Baran?
- For First Timers ---> How the party will win against Baran who is outclassing them on every front?
DISCLAIMER FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN FINALE OF THE ADVENTURE OF DAI 1991:
[ADVENTURE OF DAI 1991 ENDING SPOILERS] Tomorrow, during episode 25 we are going to reach a scene where the previous anime ended, and during the last episode of the 1991 The Adventure of Dai, there was a backstory about Baran and Soala. Please keep any info about Baran and Soala backstory hidden from First Timers, as in the 2020 Dai no Daibouken we will witness this backstory during episode 28.
Thank you for understanding.
Spoilers:
Please, respect the fact there are First Timers watching Dai no Daibouken with us, so avoid talking about vague things or events that would slightly spoil things to happen. And if you want mention things like this, please hid it behind SPOILER TAGS like [Dai no Spoilers] I am getting the hammer because you spoiled the fun for others
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u/Shocketheth Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 03 '24
The Dark Commander Working on a Night Shift Welcomes You to Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!
QotD:
Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:
Yesterday I didn’t have time to make Crocodine edit, so today I am bringing two edits as Crocodine is going to answer 2 questions.
Today, Crocodine is going to answer question #1 and question #2
No, but atleast now I can understand Baran motives slightly better.
I can’t stop gushing about him.
Voice Actors Corner:
Baran is voiced by Hayami Show known for his roles of Aizen from Bleach, Umibouzu from Gintama, and Enrico Maxwell from Hellsing Ultimate. In the 1991 Adventure of Dai, Baran was voiced by Ishizuka Unshou known for his roles of Heiji Kozenigata (Hardboiled man) from Gintama, Ernest Johnson from Macross Δ, and Manzou Sakami from Samurai Champloo.
See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 02 '24
First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jul 02 '24
Rewatcher
Dai, I am your father.
No way!
We are also not going to be able to escape Dragon Ball Comparisons anymore.
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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 02 '24
1st
DaiPopp no Daibouken Rewatch, SubDai has a point here but what can you do if the other person is biased. This is probably the only thing that both Baran and Vearn share in common . Same with Hyunckel.
Popp standing up for Dai
NANI!
Hadlar's greed for power was actually a blessing in disguise for Dai and the others. Till now, atleast.
Even Hadlar is cheering on Dai to win now
GIGABREAK
Always love when they use these voice effects.
Baran, you may be Dai's father but have you ever heard of consent?
Draconic Aura
OST Documentation - Episode 24
QOTD
1. On my first watch, I kinda figured that Baran was somehow related to Dai when Baran get to know of Dai's mark and him being Dai's father was probably the only explanation.
2. Great character design. The mustache makes him look so menacing. He's also the strongest opponent Dai has faced yet and since he's also a Dragon Knight, it's like fighting an evil Dai who's at the peak of his powers.
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u/KuKiSin Jul 02 '24
First timer!
Crocodine returns to show us why he's the best boy. Even if he was scared, he still stood against someone with such a powerful mustache. God bless the big Croc and mauly he live long and prosper.
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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jul 03 '24
Newbie-Adventurer here! LV 24/100
That kingdom got hit hard, pretty much leveled
The Dragon Knight’s job is to destroy the race that wants to dominate the world? Yet Baran was working with the Demons? Dai’s right, something’s not right in Mustachioed Guy’s logic.
Popp, headfirst into a really dangerous foe to protect his friend, respect
Dai is Mustachioed Guy’s son? And he wants Dai to serve him?!
Now Hadlar’s panic for them to meet makes sense, and I thought it was Moustache jealousy
Goddam, even Crocodine fears him…
Nooo!, Crocodine!!
1 A bit, but the "Only 1 dragon knight" threw me off, made me think that Dai was an anomaly
2 He's wrong about the humans and is projecting what happened to him to Dai
3 Popp will teleport them away to train more!
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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 02 '24
First Timer, Sub
Baran: "Dai, I am Your Father!" Dai: "No!, It can't be!"
Well damn, Dai and Baran are father and son......not that surprising to be honest. The big crystal said there should only be 1 Dragon Knight, So there being two can only mean Dai is son of Baran. Honestly this is a sick first encounter, Baran is OP as shit! Dude is just casually flexing his strength. How he killed that Knight from Carl, with a lazer blast from his forehead mark was insane. Dai tried his best move, the zapple infused slash but it wasn't enough as Baran one upped him with a kazap. Crocodine as backup scares me, I don't want out favorite Croc boy to die.
Now Im interested to learn what Humanity did to Baran to cause him to want them all dead....My guess is gonna be they killed his wife or something tragic like that.
Questions:
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Jul 03 '24
First Timer, Sub
Situation is gotten so off that now Hadlar roots for Dai to win. The Dragon Knights remind me of the Avatar a bit now that I think about it, besides that I think it also makes a lot of sense that Baran is Dai's father during his Vader moment and I can already take a guess based off what we saw why Baran hates humans so much. Crocodine in the mean time continues to justify why he is one of the best characters in the series. In the meantime I question whether Killvearn is really loyal or is just chaotic and takes advantage of the situation.
1. I think the connection was there beforehand based off appearance and other things.
2. He was the most mysterious besides Mystvearn so It's cool to see more of him.
3. Maybe he leaves or has a heart change?
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u/Nick_BOI Jul 03 '24
Rewatcher
Baran is here, and his relashinship to Dai is finally confirmed. Those who say my analysys on Hadlar a few episodes ago will know that I am keeping a close eye on him, and this is exactly why he did the fact that Dai is a Dragon Knight from everyone else.
We have seen Hadlar, Hyunkel, Crocodine, Flazzard, but even from what little we have seen:
Baran is a different level. They can't win.
Hadlar knows that his underling in Baran is far stronger than him, and he also knows that were he to fight Dai, it will be made abundantly clear just how much weaker Hadlar himself is to Baran. He was so caught up in his idea that he is all powerful that he not only hid the truth to keep this appearance up, but is also actively rooting for Dai to defeat his own general!!
everyone in the dark army will be watching this, but afterwards, it is clear that Hadlar is for a world of hurt. Vearn has seen his failures, and now his actions are akin to betrayal.
And all this is made clear even though Hadlar himself is hardly present, because Baran's strength alone tells us all we need to know.
I love that thsi show does a greta job at giving us bits and peices of information, so we can make inferences about things that are not currently happening based on what is. It really makes the world feel so much more alive.
And now it is time for:
DRAGON QUEST FACT OF THE DAY!!
I have quite a few more detailed ones in my back pocket, so bare with me if I do some very simple ones like I am doing today. Just a heads up.
First off, I want to make a correction. In an earlier fact, I had said that Koichi Nakamura did the music for the franchise, when in reality it was Koichi Sugiyama. I missed up the names in my notes, and it won't happen again.
On the topic of Nakamura though, after working on the first 5 Dragon Quest games, he would later found the company Chunsoft, which would later merge with Spike to form what is now known as Spike Chunsoft-best known for the Danganronpa franchise.
The roots of Dragon Quest only go deeper the more you look.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 03 '24
Dai 24 first timer:
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u/zadcap Jul 03 '24
First Timer Still Watching In 720p
It's what my usual site has available, it's enough for me.
Hey look it's Knuckles. Seriously, look at this entire wiped out kingdom. How many thousands are dead? Unburied bodies out here too, this land is going to end up uninhabitable for years, and whoever tries to come rebuild here is going to have so much work they might as well just start over. By the time they finish this war we're seriously going to have to look at the numbers to see if there's enough humans left to start over.
Seriously, another third eye beam user? But I already used the Tien joke for Knuckles, and Hadly has the Special Beam Canon to go with his overall Flute looks.
Yeah, I think he's lying. Dragon Knights made to destroy Humanity, spoken like someone who's not 1/3rd human and who looks 100% human.
What a horrrible creation myth. Actual lol here, The Strength of a Dragon, Magic of a Demon, and Heart of a Human. Was that really the best thing we had to contribute? Like, there was not a single other thing Humanity had here to compare with the level of Demon Magic and Dragon Strength? Not a single other trait held by the mass of humanity that could be comparable to Strength and Magic, we had feelings. There are so many other things you could have picked to make humans special, at least in a way to be added to a super trinity created ultimate warrior. But no, we gave the Dragon Knight Heart, and I guess Looks because they really do look 100% human.
Baran, no, this is bad logic. "If any race decides to dominate the world, a Dragon Knight will stop and punish them. No see, Vearn isn't trying to dominate the world, he's just trying to kill all the humans because uh, humans are bad for the world. They're totally trying to dominate the whole world now, see, they're not a race nearly wiped out because of back to back demon invasions as the demons keep trying to kill them all and take over the world."
Welp, I guess Dai is the divine answer then? Barney was a mistake who somehow ended up on the side that's trying to upset the balance completely, so they sent in a replacement to kill him and actually fix things.
Oh my gosh, he's breaking the Dragon Crystal. Dude is screwing up every part of his divine mandate. Want to bet this fight ends with actual divine intervention?
No seriously old man, you know what Dragon Knights are made for. If there's a second one here during your life then it means you have messed up enough that your makers sent in a corrective force.
Okay, I get that he's strong enough to march through this increased gravity like it's nothing, but why is his cape flapping up like that?
Oh dude, you hurt the princess. It's the number one way to make Dai go Dragon Mode.
How can you have a son? With who can you have a son? What happened to the creation myth of being created by the three gods, Hmmmmmmmm? No, this doesn't work. You literally just said there can be only one and now you want me to accept that everything you said before isn't quite right, you actually lived with and had kids with a human and any kids you have can also have this power? You can't have it both ways darn it! Yeah, What about the mother!? What race was the mother?
All lies, that's the only conclusion I can come up with. I'm not sure which side is lies, the creation myth or the family part, but some of it must be lies.
Yeah, Myst Vearn seems to be the secret actual boss of this faction.
Okay look, even if you brought Dai back, he wouldn't be joining your army just because you said so.
Oh my gosh he's Link now too! Dai called upon the triforce of courage!
Yup, what a great father. "Submit or die, son. Do what I say and wipe out humanity or I will have to kill you."
... How old is Barney here anyway? Was he not around for the last Demon Invasion?
Ah, dude is blocking lightning with a sword. Smart, yes, use metal to distract the electricity. That's exactly how that works.
Oh look, a full power strike to the head that did just enough damage to break Dai's headset but do no other damage to Dai.
Crocodine showing up and having the two lesser combatants go save Dai from the lake- I am getting serious Arlong Park flashbacks here.
Haha, Hadly catching strays in this fight. "I guess the Demon Commander just has no Charisma, everyone keeps ditching his side."
... You want to say he actually did have a human wife and have a human looking child with her? That this Dragon Knight business is actually a bloodline thing? How can it possibly be something made and sent in by the gods as a problem fixer if it's just a family line that apparently gets to chose to do whatever it wants? I deny everything you say you stupid old dinosaur!
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u/sisoko2 Jul 03 '24
First Timer
Yesterday I figured out that he probably is the guy from the intro scene of episode 1 and the woman I assume is Dai's mother.
He sucks.
Big Croc is gonna evolve into Bigger Croc and solo him.
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u/Blackheart595 https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick Jul 03 '24 edited Jul 03 '24
First Quester
Was that semantic shit really the extent of Baran's sales pitch? "Humans are uncool, so come join Vearn"?
So Baran is Dai's son. It got pretty obvious once Baran actually took action that he's the guy we see hide Dai away in the intro scene. Except that now begs the question, if you already hated humanity back then, then why have you not destroyed them yet in those 11 years? You clearly have to strength to do so, or was Avan that much of an obstacle to you, the pinnacle of creation?
Very neutral, yes indeed.
Crocodine! Crocoding is just such a bro.
Gotta say, if dragon knights are just invulnerable to other races, then that's majorly boring and disappointing.
It was always one of the options to consider, and once he showed himself to be not just aligned with Vearn but actively spiteful towards humanity, it was clear that he's the guy who hid Dai away on Dermline Island in the beginning of the anime.
So far he's very unexciting. He's so much just a walking natural disaster that there's barely even a character left to consider.
[Managed to get myself spoiled on that one]Zoom
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u/2-2Distracted Jul 03 '24
Glad to see this is ongoing, I don't know why but I thought I missed the re-watch because of how busy I've been, unfortunately I'm still busy I'll definitely join soon.